Mini Normal 1950 [Engame: Mafia Victory!]

[Porkens]

Oink.

[Porkens]

If UC is

SCUM

:

Chip Butty
UnaBombaH*
Rhah

Zulfy*

CheekyTeeky
acidphoenix*

sheepsaysmeep Luca Blight*
Vanderscamp
Morality

wavemode
UC Voyager
necro

If UC is

TOWN

:

UnaBombaH*, acidphoenix*, Chip

Wave

scum: Cheeky, Rhah, necro

[/quote]

[Porkens]

I skmmed, this is my gutread.

[Porkens]

Bascialy from the begining of day 1 you have had a weird vibe with necro. Either he was trying to sheep you and then decided to bus you or push you.

Then the RVS wagon fall apart and landed mostly on you, including necro. Cheecky and Rah came off as most supportive of stringing you up. At that point you seemed like an easier mislynch. I was scumreading you at the time that push started I think.

Ok so Wavemode kinda POEs down into the scumteam if you are scum, but I actually think the UC TOWN universe is more likely.

[Porkens]

I skmmed, this is my gutread.

Why does it all hinge on UCV?

she seems central to the plot of the first half of day 1.

[Porkens]

I get that a lot.

[Porkens]

anyway

Vote Unibomber

Lets move along, shall we?

[Porkens]

You aren't up for a lynch UC, and I think you are town, anyway.

[Porkens]

How long do we have to lynch someone?
About two days?

Yeah. or, OR, you can hammer him right now and it can be Day 2 in a couple days

[Porkens]

UC, I said that you are not a candidate for lynching today. Not anymore. So I'm not trying to somehow revive your wagon - don't worry.

I think you are town.

But Cheecky told me my reads are shit.

And I was just skimming.

So I am following Cheecky, even though I disagree about who we are lynching.

If YOU, UC, don't want to lynch him for your own reasons, I respect you getting off of the wagon.

If you show me that you are willing to trust me for a little while despite my weird entrance, I'll unvote and discuss with you logically any course of action that comes before us.

[Porkens]

no? I don't know what gutread means to you Vander, sorry.

I skimmed the game, made two hypotheses, and gave them to ya.

Now I'm sheeping the person who told me my hypothesese were shit.

And here we are

[Porkens]

good

[Porkens]

Welcome to my circle of trust.

[Porkens]

No no no, they are dependent on UC's alignment. I townread Una.

[Porkens]

Uh wtf? So porkens thinks UCV is town and according to his lists that makes Una town. He is voting UnaH because I told him his reads are shit? Are you trying to look scummy on purpose? It feels like porkens is sheeping my read to give him an out if I am wrong instead of voting his scum read which is in {Rhah, Me, Necro}...

Way to add another layer of wtf to the game.

What do you want me to do, follow the reads you said were shit or listen to you?

[Porkens]

Uh wtf? So porkens thinks UCV is town and according to his lists that makes Una town. He is voting UnaH because I told him his reads are shit? Are you trying to look scummy on purpose? It feels like porkens is sheeping my read to give him an out if I am wrong instead of voting his scum read which is in {Rhah, Me, Necro}...

Way to add another layer of wtf to the game.

What do you want me to do, follow the reads you said were shit or listen to you?

How about 'Come up with independent reasons of your own and don't shit on the game.' Is that on the table here?

I gave you my own reads.
I explained my thought process.
I gave you a vote on your wagon.
I answered your questions.
I am here to talk.

Go.

[Porkens]

Uh wtf? So porkens thinks UCV is town and according to his lists that makes Una town. He is voting UnaH because I told him his reads are shit? Are you trying to look scummy on purpose? It feels like porkens is sheeping my read to give him an out if I am wrong instead of voting his scum read which is in {Rhah, Me, Necro}...

Way to add another layer of wtf to the game.

What do you want me to do, follow the reads you said were shit or listen to you?

Why are you asking me when I'm your logical scum read?

Do you want me on this wagon, or not?

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

I think chip would be a bad lynch.

Necro is a really good idea for lynch.

Circle of trust is just a feeling. I get clear vibrations from those in it.

[Porkens]

vote: necro

[Porkens]

Rah you think necro is lying?

[Porkens]

Part 1. "RVS": A knot of votes centers around CheekyTeeky.

Spoiler:

VOTE: CheekyTeeky hey....what is up


My role is....

Jk! I'm not telling you!!!! XD
I'm not that much of a noob

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

What are everyone's thoughts on hypo-vanilla cop claiming?

On day 2 and onwards (until the vanilla cop role is claimed or killed), every player posts a result as if they were the vanilla cop; the actual vanilla cop tells the truth and everyone else makes up a result. It does possibly give scum more info on who isn't the vanilla cop (if someone claims an incorrect result on one of them, for example), but it guarantees that we have all of the investigations as public knowledge while allowing them not to claim and draw a NK.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I'm busy right now be back later

so........how is all this RVS......

I suppose the randomness is a bit like this




VOTE: CheekyTeeky

you guys raise a good point

UNVOTE: VOTE: cheekyteeky

UNVOTE: :

before this gets out of hand. lol

I think UC Voyager is likely town.

VOTE: Luca Blight
Highlander scum.

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

sup



VOTE: Rhah

VOTE: Zulfy

Happy scumday, scum.

VOTE: Everyone rabid OMGUS

Part 2. The Cheeky wagon collapses, and many jump to UC Voyager. (Note Cheeky's vote at the end)

Spoiler:

VOTE: UC Voyager

VOTE: rhar

you all suck for no l-1

lgi

VOTE: Zulfy

[insert joke here]

is he new??????
you dont make reads unless you have something to back it up with.....
and you have townie below your name......probably should have started with a newbie game

VOTE: UC Voyager

Don't make reads you're not gonna explain.

Why would someone be able to explain it right now? Looks like you’re saying stuff for the sake of saying it.

VOTE: Zulfy

VOTE: UC Voyager

Easy game.

VOTE: Vanderscamp

Part 3. Support for lynching Voyager wanes, Necro jumps on his third wagon.

Spoiler:

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

I'm not familiar with hypo-claimings (know a few scenarios, haven't been a part of one yet), but how would we do it in this game, and what good could it possibly do?
Not sure if I misunderstood something about it.

That said, leaning town on UC, necro, Chip Butty atm

UNVOTE:

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

whoa. chill out there. im only at three votes. lol. and this just started yesterday, so i mean. a little early to be saying that....UNVOTE:
taken the vote off rhah for now

VOTE: Rhah

biggest scum read

VOTE: Rhah

Wagons are fun!!!

Soliciting voters. Uncle Rhah needs you.

VOTE: necro

[Porkens]

I'm trying to make the point that Necro is probably scum with Cheeky and Rhah.

[Porkens]

I'm trying to make the point that Necro is probably scum with Cheeky and Rhah.

Ok you're entitled to an opinion but if/when I flip town can you not tie that to other people without proper reasoning.

Also if you guys are willing to settle for an info flip my flip would give you more info than UCV's. We just need to hurry up because scum have done a good job at drawing this out and creating apathy and a no-lynch isn't going to help us get any further than how stuck we are now.

Point 1: ok! that's totally fair.

Point 2: don't volunteer to be lynched if you aren't scum.

Vote: CheeckyTeeky

[Porkens]

In order to look like VT.

[Porkens]

I like my vote

[Porkens]

Part 1. "RVS": A knot of votes centers around CheekyTeeky.

Spoiler:

VOTE: CheekyTeeky hey....what is up


My role is....

Jk! I'm not telling you!!!! XD
I'm not that much of a noob

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

What are everyone's thoughts on hypo-vanilla cop claiming?

On day 2 and onwards (until the vanilla cop role is claimed or killed), every player posts a result as if they were the vanilla cop; the actual vanilla cop tells the truth and everyone else makes up a result. It does possibly give scum more info on who isn't the vanilla cop (if someone claims an incorrect result on one of them, for example), but it guarantees that we have all of the investigations as public knowledge while allowing them not to claim and draw a NK.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I'm busy right now be back later

so........how is all this RVS......

I suppose the randomness is a bit like this




VOTE: CheekyTeeky

you guys raise a good point

UNVOTE: VOTE: cheekyteeky

UNVOTE: :

before this gets out of hand. lol

I think UC Voyager is likely town.

VOTE: Luca Blight
Highlander scum.

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

sup



VOTE: Rhah

VOTE: Zulfy

Happy scumday, scum.

VOTE: Everyone rabid OMGUS

Part 2. The Cheeky wagon collapses, and many jump to UC Voyager. (Note Cheeky's vote at the end)

Spoiler:

VOTE: UC Voyager

VOTE: rhar

you all suck for no l-1

lgi

VOTE: Zulfy

[insert joke here]

is he new??????
you dont make reads unless you have something to back it up with.....
and you have townie below your name......probably should have started with a newbie game

VOTE: UC Voyager

Don't make reads you're not gonna explain.

Why would someone be able to explain it right now? Looks like you’re saying stuff for the sake of saying it.

VOTE: Zulfy

VOTE: UC Voyager

Easy game.

VOTE: Vanderscamp

Part 3. Support for lynching Voyager wanes, Necro jumps on his third wagon.

Spoiler:

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

I'm not familiar with hypo-claimings (know a few scenarios, haven't been a part of one yet), but how would we do it in this game, and what good could it possibly do?
Not sure if I misunderstood something about it.

That said, leaning town on UC, necro, Chip Butty atm

UNVOTE:

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

-----

Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

whoa. chill out there. im only at three votes. lol. and this just started yesterday, so i mean. a little early to be saying that....UNVOTE:
taken the vote off rhah for now

VOTE: Rhah

biggest scum read

VOTE: Rhah

Wagons are fun!!!

Soliciting voters. Uncle Rhah needs you.

VOTE: necro

[Porkens]

vote: unibomber

[Porkens]

Necro has been in the game since day 1.

[Porkens]

I've given you everything you've asked for. You have nothing to say about unibomber. I guess i was wrong about you.

[Porkens]

@Porkens: okay sometimes you give reasons bu as someone pointed out, at other times you insist your reads are based on gut. Which is it? It just looks like you're making shit up as you go along.

I am.

[Porkens]

Necro has been in the game since day 1.

Um...what day do you think it is now?

Page 1 I guess

[Porkens]

I'm vanilla town.

[Porkens]

I confess that I wish I were a dayvig instead of vt because I'd shoot scrum right in the face. Good luck town.

[Porkens]

Oh, well you got me. Uni, do you think I'm scrum? Cause I don't think you are.

unvote

[Porkens]

vote cheecky

Let's make scrum work for it uni.

[Porkens]

At least I'll be on the right side of history. Ciao.

[Porkens]

Oh, well you got me. Uni, do you think I'm scrum? Cause I don't think you are.

unvote

..this is scum though!

Oh I was wrong.

vote unabomber

Lynch this instead and I'll do better day 2. I promise to try.

[Porkens]

wsa that a hammer?

No I'm at l-1

[Porkens]

And in a is at l1 or l2

[Porkens]

Just lynch HIM

[Porkens]

No. You get to wait.

[Porkens]

Vt

[Porkens]

That's not a good reaction.

[Porkens]

Full disclosure...I knew it was fake.

You are right though, i am innocent.

[Porkens]

Sigh. I know lots of stuff.

[Porkens]

I confess that I wish I were a dayvig instead of vt because I'd shoot scrum right in the face. Good luck town.

You're that confident?

Not really, no, but I love shooting.

I confess that I wish I were a dayvig instead of vt because I'd shoot scrum right in the face. Good luck town.

Lol are your three scumreads still necro Rhah and CheekyTeeky

I don't think so.



Una, do you think I'm scum, or are you just trying to save yourself?

[Porkens]

(I AM just trying to save myself)

[Porkens]

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

I'm not familiar with hypo-claimings (know a few scenarios, haven't been a part of one yet), but how would we do it in this game, and what good could it possibly do?
Not sure if I misunderstood something about it.

WHY did you scumread UC Voyager here?

[Porkens]

FLIP TO UNA.

[Porkens]

Win the game for me then, at least.

UNA ucvoyager and ? Are scum.

[Porkens]

Cheeky.

[Porkens]

Jfc

[Porkens]

Don't let rah setup these associatives for day 2, ok?

I think town is doing a shit job this game, and I don't say that often. The vast majority of you are still town. Work together.

Ignore all my reads but do look at how players reacted (or didn't) to them.

The big strike against ucv is unvoting her rvs wagon on cheeky "before it got out of hand". Was she afraid to be blamed for starting a wagon on town?

Make una wxplain why he thought ucv was scummy.

Put the hot irons on the feet of zulfy and Luca.

[Porkens]

If necro doesn't get more humble, lynch him.

Pay attention to wave. He is lurking.

Get morality scumhunting more.

Remember that chip is a bulldog. If you are town, don't let him trigger you.

Cheeky needs to stop waffling. Deathfunnel som4one, cheeky.

Get rid of sheep as soon as possible.

Ciao

[Porkens]

I'm a solid 50/50 on rah. Gg either way.

[Porkens]

yeeeeeup

[Porkens]

Gret job scum.

See you next techmo.