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Post Post #1000 (isolation #200) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:42 pm

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In post 999, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 998, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 992, Sergtacos wrote:
FUCKING LYNCH HIM!!!!!
You're one to talk, buddy.
Whats that supposed to mean?

Anyway, people have had plenty of time.

VOTE: mumble

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Post Post #1015 (isolation #201) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:50 am

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Post Post #1024 (isolation #202) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:57 pm

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In post 1023, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 83, Boonskiies wrote:I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.
THE reaction test player. Why would the result make you think you're loyal? A loyal role should either get no result or get a result.
Why do you question the role rather than just outright saying its BS and that you are Town?
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #203) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:18 pm

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In post 1040, Boonskiies wrote:Scum killed on the wagon,
which near guarantees scum to be off the wagon
. They might have one one the wagon, but could potentially be an all town wagon.
I see you kinda talking like you are sure and then that you are not sure. Could you explain your thought process on this on how you could be "sure" to the point of "guaranteeing" that Scum were off the wagon?
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #204) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 1036, Tchill13 wrote:nope. i'm a miller.
You are supposed to claim that D1 like in your first post. Did you not read up on your role or something? Honestly I think its a load of Bull.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #205) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:29 pm

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In post 1045, Tchill13 wrote:LQ determined to call me scum? So... So surprising.
Does this invalidate my points against you, because I am pretty sure it doesn't.
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #206) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:13 pm

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Chill, why did you claim?
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #207) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:14 pm

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Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

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Post Post #1085 (isolation #208) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:26 pm

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In post 1084, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1082, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

Moar pressure on Uzi Plz.
this is ok but i don't believe you can push uzi for skating by more than you can push schadd for it.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #209) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:28 am

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In post 1093, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1082, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

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VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Yeah, you’re done here

You knew why I was for voting for you yesterday because you argued with me about it for about 5-6 pages at the end of Day 1. But I guess you’ve suddenly caught amnesia.
Am I "done" because I am Scum or because you don't want to deal with my anymore?
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #210) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:33 am

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The Lynch is going to be between me an Uzi today. Is that ok with everyone?
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #211) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:33 am

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VOTE: Uzi
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #212) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:35 am

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In post 1093, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1082, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

Moar pressure on Uzi Plz.
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Yeah, you’re done here

You knew why I was for voting for you yesterday because you argued with me about it for about 5-6 pages at the end of Day 1. But I guess you’ve suddenly caught amnesia.
That's all fine and well, but you never explained this naked vote here:
In post 250, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 237, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 204, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 134, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 127, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 124, Tchill13 wrote:Only scummy things I've seen so far is errant pushing me for lack of content when most players were around 5ish posts.
Low post count doesn’t mean lack of content.

Do you think Errant is forcing having a strong read on you or something?
I just felt like errant brought up an issue that could lead to a lot of momentum on my wagon that could then be pushed to a Lynch.
In post 136, Tchill13 wrote:The action isn't scummy it's the timing of it. Pushing someone for lack of content as soon as the game starts? Are you serious? That's why I questioned it because it's a reasonable excuse and the TIMING. Nothing better for scum to find a reasonable excuse to lead a mislynch on someone.
I think I kind of get what you’re saying here but I also don’t really see it. Errant doesn’t strike me as the careless type.

I find that there are players who don’t like a prolonged RVS stage or are just eager to get to game solving. Why is pushing for lack of content so early more likely to come from scum than town?
I see much more motivation in that instance from scum rather than town. i believe i had 2 votes on me and errant was already one of them. Errant laid the foundation for some serious momentum. So from that view there wouldn't be much discussion about other players and less stances would have been taken. I haven't played with errant before but since this i've stated a town read on him because his breakdowns make sense and he's looking like he's trying to get multiple reads.
So adding fuel to the fire? Meh. I’m going to write you off as just paranoid and null for now.

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In post 240, Tchill13 wrote:Town: Egg, Errant
lean town: Havo, LQ
Null: Schadd, thestatusquo, sergtacos
lean scum: Uzi, mumble, lalendra
Scum: acid
Why is Mumble suspicious?
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #213) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:35 am

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In post 1101, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1097, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1093, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1082, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

Moar pressure on Uzi Plz.
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Yeah, you’re done here

You knew why I was for voting for you yesterday because you argued with me about it for about 5-6 pages at the end of Day 1. But I guess you’ve suddenly caught amnesia.
Am I "done" because I am Scum or because you don't want to deal with my anymore?
You’re scum. My doubt is at zero.
Town should always have some doubt.
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #214) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:41 am

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In post 1105, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t believe town wouldn’t be able to deduce why I voted for them there based on previous interactions.
Then you don't know anything about the way I play.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #215) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:41 am

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In post 1104, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Okay...

:lol:
I don't appreciate being mocked.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #216) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:56 am

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In post 1114, Thestatusquo wrote:No, we are not doing a 1v1 only two options day 2. What the fuck is wrong with you.
Do you have anything else to add?
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #217) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 1118, Havo wrote:
In post 1103, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1101, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1097, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1093, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1082, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi does seem to be skating by not doing much. He voted for me and never gave a reason. That is Scummy in my book.

Moar pressure on Uzi Plz.
VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Yeah, you’re done here

You knew why I was for voting for you yesterday because you argued with me about it for about 5-6 pages at the end of Day 1. But I guess you’ve suddenly caught amnesia.
Am I "done" because I am Scum or because you don't want to deal with my anymore?
You’re scum. My doubt is at zero.
Town should always have some doubt.
Grrr... the most towny post I've seen out of you, almost pisses me off. lol.
Well, if all it takes to get Town read is to just spout off some basic theory, then maybe I should do that more instead of actually using my own mind to figure stuff out. I realize my playstyle needs a lot of work since people don't understand me, but not many people have this problem so getting advice is pretty rough.
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #218) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:15 am

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In post 1122, Havo wrote:Uzi has posted a lot but has only pushed 1 player
Nice catch here. I didn't really notice this myself because, well, he was pushing me.
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Post Post #1217 (isolation #219) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:14 pm

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In post 1143, Boonskiies wrote:So I went on to LQ without scum reading him, because it was obvious that after how Tchill was, that there would be some fight against that, the wagon that emerged from that, was LUV, which is more likely to be town than scum because people sitting around will generally take the side that’s building rather than the one that’s established, because it’s less scummy on paper.
Not everyone weighed in on this, so your analysis is wrong.
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #220) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:21 pm

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In post 1184, Havo wrote:I'm not crazy about LQ, but I doubt he and Acid are scum partners as much as Acid has been hard TRing him.

I wanted to see LQ's reaction to my joining his push on UZi.
I think its fucked up that you hold so strongly to LAL, but you are OK to do the same. Like, you voted Uzi without thinking he was Scum IIRC. That seems like a kind of lie because reasoning was associated with the vote.
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #221) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:24 pm

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In post 1204, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1200, Havo wrote:
In post 1126, acidphoenix wrote:LaLiars is dumb

the kind of lying boons doing isn't super helpful(mostly *because* he's so obvious about it) but it's definitely not innately bad

ON a Side Note,

LAL is not dumb, when you play on a site where it's strictly enforced by ALL townies, it's amazing how you no longer have to worry about if it's town doing dumb things or is it scum. Now a lie is also a scum slip. This site is not like that obviously. So it only makes things harder on town.
I agree. But I also stated that I don't believe I am lying when I do said things. I generally enforce LAL, but when it's actual lying. If it's obvious reaction test, fine, which is why I make mine obvious.
Weird? Because I would think a reaction test requires the person doesn't know what they are reacting too. Otherwise, what is stopping Scum from giving the "correct" response?
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #222) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:29 pm

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In post 1211, Boonskiies wrote:Now that mothafuckin'ConfTown Boon is out, my case is clear.

Something I've learned is as scum, it's really easy for circular reasoning to come out, so I'm trying not to enable scum in long drawn out conversations so they can wiggle out into a TvT like scenario.

Confirmed Town, huh. you don't say.
In post 1151, Boonskiies wrote:Nobody looks over things that they see as "face value". It's one of the things I abuse when I'm scum. Face value when I'm scum, I generally am correct, because as scum, I point out flawed logic in town, and pounce on what they should have done and mix it in with hypothetical situation wifom. I do this as town as well, but as scum, I would know the other player is town, generally, and because of said face value, I'm able to actually hide under that, and push harder, at face value, but that same scenario is different at, say, chest value. ;)
What's the difference between your Town game and Scum game while you're already self metaing all over the place.
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #223) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:34 pm

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Boon deserves our scrutiny for no other reason needed than the type of player he is. Let that sink in.
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #224) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:47 pm

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This is my last game under this account (hopefully). I am hoping for a 20% win record for Town in normals. Lets make it happen people, I don't want to go 0/5.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #225) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:41 pm

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In post 1224, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1221, LicketyQuickety wrote:Boon deserves our scrutiny for no other reason needed than the type of player he is. Let that sink in.
I win more scum games than anyone else on site right now, and I've had near 100% town reads Day 3/4 on in my recent town games.

Yeah, done here.
I accept advice on my play from anyone. After the game if you have any for me, I would love to hear it.

My point was not that there is something wrong with you, but that I already gathered that you have a really good Scum game. Players who have a good Scum game deserve more scrutiny IMO because they are so hard to tell that they are Scum. Does that make sense?

That said, if you prioritize your Town game over your Scum game (which I was thinking the opposite based on how good your Scum game is) then I have zero problem with you.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #226) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:14 pm

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Acid, what is your read on shea?
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #227) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:17 pm

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tsq. He doesn't like people calling him tsq, so I decided to switch to shea.
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #228) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:42 pm

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In post 7, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: Boon Those are my thoughts

Hard claiming miller BTW
Why didn't you claim Miller D1?
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #229) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:49 pm

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OMG Uzi, you will never understand me I don't think.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #230) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:58 pm

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I can already hear the inside jokes.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #231) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:09 pm

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In post 1245, acidphoenix wrote:the tldr is whymafia wasn't a miller
I know.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #232) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:40 pm

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In post 1237, acidphoenix wrote:
In post 1169, acidphoenix wrote:luv honestly my making waves pool is just my don't particularly tr pool

which ends up as like egg, tsq, havo
less so you, lalendra
other than adding boon i stand by this
This is really really Scummy. I don't have the words to explain it, but it looks pretty bad IMO.
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #233) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:55 pm

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In post 1250, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1221, LicketyQuickety wrote:Boon deserves our scrutiny for no other reason needed than the type of player he is. Let that sink in.
you suggesting we pressure or lynch him for play style alone?
Def wasn't saying lynch him for playstyle. No, not that at all.

Pressure? Yes. Automatically lynching? No.
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #234) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:56 pm

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If Chills claim is true, we know there is a Cop in the game. This is obvious but it hasn't been said yet.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #235) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:23 pm

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In post 1266, schadd_ wrote:not necessarily true? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller doesn't say it has to be accompanied by cop. like things that are confirmable and not IC are generally avoided in normals
Pretty sure I am right on this.
== Normal Guidelines ==
A Miller that knows they are a Miller and flips as such is considered [[Normal]] on mafiascum.net. A Miller returns a [[guilty]] result if investigated by a [[Cop]], "Miller" if investigated by a [[Role Cop]], and "non-Vanilla" to a [[Vanilla Cop]].
The Normal variant of Miller specifically only produces a false guilty to a [[Cop]] and [[Seer]], so for example, a [[Gunsmith]] will see them as having no gun (unless they have a gun for some other reason).
The normal variant of Miller specifically only produces a false guilty to a Cop and Seer.

This tells me that if a millar is in the game, there needs to be a cop or seer in the game.
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #236) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:32 am

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In post 1274, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1271, Thestatusquo wrote:Where is lalendra? I'm not willing to let them skate by today.
Didn't have any intention of it - busy weekend.

I didn't think I was skating by D1, if you do let's chat!

As of right now, Tchill is my strongest townread because so far I like all of his thinking, and I especially like the way he handled the claiming. I don't think PRs should claim unless they have to, and I would have been hesitant to do so in his shoes as well. It has literally nothing (something) to do with the fact that I love his avatar.
I hate to attack you on this, but most of what you say is pretty shallow/surface level. Do you have any deeper thoughts than this?
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #237) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 1319, Thestatusquo wrote:I think what hes saying, and what I am confused by as well, is that you seem to be devoting a lot of your attention to explaining why Lalendra is scum while voting schadd while not doing all that much to pressure schadd/explain your vote.

Its certainly an interesting thing to look at if you or lalendra ever flip scum.
How can you pressure Shadd if he's simply not here? That said, I don't know that I have seen Egg quote anything from Shadd now that I think about it.
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Post Post #1329 (isolation #238) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:36 am

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I don't think Scum Bus this day. So looking back to this day on how people vote should give some good info for Town.
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #239) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:33 pm

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I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #240) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:10 pm

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In post 1347, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1336, LicketyQuickety wrote:I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.
yet another thought you should keep to yourself for later use. You keep posting things that would allow scum to easily manipulate if you do indeed follow through on your post.
yeah, well, if you would actually address the concerns I have about you, then maybe I would be so Sus of you.

the reason for this is that you are basically enacting the fact that you are Miller to dictate who the lynch is and I don't like that. Like it seems like you are using your "confirmed Town" status to influence things.

Like, I have given reasons for why I suspect you and you haven't really addressed them. Why?
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #241) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:41 pm

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In post 1363, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1357, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Schadd, who do you think is scum and why?
mmmph i don't wanna do this rn

in a waiting for reactions way and also in an i just took a midterm and my thoughts on everyone aren't plastic enough to be able to do the why part well atm way
i was thinking about it and i realized i could make
readlist via animal noises

Spoiler:
uzi: purrrrr. purr.
boonskiies: hhhhhhhh. hhhhhhhhh, hhhhh
tchill13: [seductive hiss, like from a sexy anthropomorphised cat character]
lalendra: [turns up snout] hmph
licketyquickety: bork! bork! bork.
acidphoenix: purrrrr... [bats at hand]
schadd_: [burp]
thestatusquo:
bork bork bork bork.
rrruff.
egg: bwok bwok bwok. . . bwok? . bwok bwok bwok
havo: rrrooar . . [yawn]
That is the best reads list I have seen in quite a while. Very funny.

*clears throat*

Could you now like make some stances or something?
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #242) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:53 am

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Uzi still isn't really doing anything. I could lynch that.
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #243) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:20 am

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In post 1376, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1375, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi still isn't really doing anything. I could lynch that.
You could Lynch anything but acid right?
Where are you getting that idea? I said I very well could vote acid. Stop playing pre-flip, its embarrassing.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #244) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:21 am

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In post 1378, Tchill13 wrote:Put your money where your mouth is LQ. If we Lynch acid and he flips town you can death tunnel me tomorrow as you've stated you would. If we Lynch acid and he flips scum we caught scum? What are you afraid of? The fact he's hard defended you the whole time so if he does flip scum it's kinda incriminating you? Why don't you want to Lynch acid? What makes uzi scummier than acid and what makes acid townier than uzi?
Where have I stated I would death tunnel you?

I thought it was at L-1? I'm not going to hammer this early in the day.
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #245) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:24 am

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I think its at L-2 right now. Not sure if I want to vote Acid or not due to self hammer (which I think is a likely possibility).
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #246) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:54 am

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OK then, I will put my money where my moth is so that Chill can't use the fact that I am not voting Acid against me.

VOTE: Acid

I hope your happy. Its going to suck if Acid self hammers here, but nothing I can do about that.
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #247) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:45 am

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In post 1385, Tchill13 wrote:It is at L-2 btw.
Well, this is what I saw.
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #248) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:48 am

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In post 1386, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 1306, Transcend wrote:
Hello! Nice doggo here to offer a VC. Let me know if there's an error!


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Vote Count 2.2


LicketyQuickety(1):
Lil Uzi Vert
Lil Uzi Vert(1):
LicketyQuickety
Boonskiies(1):
acidphoenix
acidphoenix(5):
Tchill13, Boonskiies, egg, havo, lalendra

Nobody(5)
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With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!
Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-11-04 11:00:00)
Did a pseudo vote count since the last one. Looks like l-1 to me, not l-2.
Oh, you mean this VC that you altered?
In post 1306, Transcend wrote:
Hello! Nice doggo here to offer a VC. Let me know if there's an error!


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Lil Uzi Vert(1):
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Boonskiies(1):
acidphoenix
acidphoenix(2):
Tchill13, Boonskiies

Nobody(5)
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #249) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:51 am

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In post 1335, Egg wrote:It makes perfect sense. Schadd was supposed to be a pressure wagon to get him talking and read him better. I'm much more comfortable with acid as a lynch and maybe even lalendra (although there are still things to sort with lalendra).

Unvote, Vote Acid
I did not even see this. This is why everyone should use vote tags. There is really no excuse not to use vote tags.
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #250) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:20 pm

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In post 1399, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1382, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think its at L-2 right now. Not sure if I want to vote Acid or not due to self hammer (which I think is a likely possibility).
In post 1386, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 1306, Transcend wrote:
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Did a pseudo vote count since the last one. Looks like l-1 to me, not l-2.
Well this is what I saw.
This sucks. I'm Scum because I don't vote Acid and then I am Scum because I do. WTF.

Hopefully Acid is Scum, but its not like that is going to convince you I am Town because you are alread heavily Confbiasing me.
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #251) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:01 pm

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In post 1401, Tchill13 wrote:You're the one that's already planning where your attention goes based in acids flip. Not me. I'm just stating what I've seen.
What? You def implied I was shady for the hammer.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #252) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:02 pm

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In post 1404, Boonskiies wrote:If there’s a vig, I suggest LQ.
I am the vig dumbass.

Like how is that not obvious at this point?

I said over and over and over that I wanted toco lynched. Look who gets viged? You really think that is a coincidence? Honestly I thought people would be able to piece it together because of how fucking obvious it was.
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #253) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:06 pm

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I have to decide who to vig between Uzi and Shadd.
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #254) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:06 pm

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In post 1409, Thestatusquo wrote:why in the FRESH FUCK would you claim that going into night?
Because I am only 2-shot.
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #255) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 1412, Tchill13 wrote:oh... it gets worse when i thought it couldn't...
What does that mean?
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #256) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:23 pm

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Honestly I just want Scum to kill me.

It has been a rough week for me.

Who should I kill between shadd and Uzi? I'm dead tonight so we might as well get a consensus.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #257) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:28 pm

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In post 1417, Tchill13 wrote:It's pointless to discuss. Seriously.
Says the guy who claims miller D2...
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #258) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:13 pm

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In post 1423, Boonskiies wrote:I'm still the more likely scum target. You have SK written all over you with that LUV/Shadd thing.
I have SK written all over me huh?
In post 1, Carcalilly wrote:1. Scum have daytalk enabled and may submit actions through their private thread.
2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #259) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:14 pm

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Sorry but I am just really worked up right now. I am just pissed at the world. Sorry for my shitty play.
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #260) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:48 am

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I shot at boon last night.
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #261) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:56 am

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So... I looks like Boon is either BP or Scum to me at this point. So Boon kinda self resolves. But I might be dead N3.

Its weird that there were no NK's last night considering we had a Doc die N1.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #262) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 1443, Boonskiies wrote:I’m a Vanilla Cop. Tchill is not Vanilla from Night 1. Hard claiming it, not reaction testing.

I’ve been stating all game, “I’m Vanilla, thoughts?”. I never lied about that, I just didn’t say cop. I claimed I was a role cop, which Vanilla cop is a cop for a person’s roles, just not thoroughly like a role cop.

For reasons, I won’t out my second investigative target just yet.
How do you explain that there were no NKs last night when we had a Doc die?

I feel like you are baiting a CC at this point if I am being honest.
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #263) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:50 am

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In post 1171, acidphoenix wrote:
In post 1159, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1156, acidphoenix wrote:if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what
sounds like scum mad that they're caught out for reasons they think they shouldn't be caught out for.
this is objectively a caught for the wrong reasons post

if you're going to search for stupid read reasons at least keep track :>
In post 1179, acidphoenix wrote:I mean

two of then were stupid reasons(the joke, the tense on my response about the joke)
one of them was a reason that can only exists if you actually are, in fact, just trying to look at my alignment for the first time, given that it's existed all game(response to quick wagon / building luv wagon(
and then the last reason apparently isn't a reason I'm scum even though you posted saying that it looked like scum because of it)

am I missing anything
In post 1195, acidphoenix wrote:
In post 1193, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1190, acidphoenix wrote:what positioning onto luv

my vote?

*
Sure. You're in the Warlock position. You have the strings attached, and are fueling your demon, but LQ is the muscle and face of the operation.
VOTE: boonskiies

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In post 1198, acidphoenix wrote:no I wasn't sure so I tested your reaction

the fact that you readily accepted my question means that you don't actually give a shit about your own case

the prosecution restd
In post 1199, acidphoenix wrote:again: ctrlf vote
In post 1203, acidphoenix wrote:you still haven't ctrlfd vote

it's fairly obvious what the problem is boon
In post 1206, acidphoenix wrote:ctrlf vote in my iso
In post 1207, acidphoenix wrote:hint: the fact that the only issue which seems to be of real significance to you, and at the very least more significant than any of your other problems with me, is my position on the luv wagon

and you don't actually know that I didn't vote luv
In post 1210, acidphoenix wrote:it's not your only issue but you literally generalized the other issues as "these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about"

and okay but if you just read through that to actually come to a conclusion then how the hell would you not note the lack of a vote

even moreso than just being significant it's probably the only thing about what I've done with luv I would actually agree looks scjmmy (the lack of a vote)

also if so

.
In post 1214, acidphoenix wrote:
In post 1210, acidphoenix wrote:it's not your only issue but you literally generalized the other issues as "these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about"

and okay but if you just read through that to actually come to a conclusion then how the hell would you not note the lack of a vote

even moreso than just being significant it's probably the only thing about what I've done with luv I would actually agree looks scjmmy (the lack of a vote)

also if so

.
being pissed that you've decided none of my points matter except for hunting for the scum motive in every word while not reevaluating, and now being to the point of "you're either scum or town who isn't actually trying to figure out peoples alignments" (and you've posted enough that that dichotomy almost always flips the former) is why I added the "real significance" and "at the least clearly the most significant" parts yes
In post 1215, acidphoenix wrote:
In post 1213, Boonskiies wrote:Vigilante can shoot me if I'm wrong.


Or lynch me, and vigilante shoot Acid, lynch acid for sure if he lives.
if you are in fact town this part of this post, more than any other thing you've done, has singlehandedly make me lose all respect for you

fuck anyone who makes anything about "if you don't trust me you gotta Lynch me"
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #264) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:53 am

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It makes no sense Boon goes after Acid instead of Chill.
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #265) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:54 am

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In post 1475, Boonskiies wrote:That is also why you are a SK and not a vigilante.
Now you're just playing dumb.

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Post Post #1483 (isolation #266) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:59 am

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In post 1482, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1480, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1, Carcalilly wrote:2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3
i am rather% sure someone has pointed this out.
Well, fuck me, right?

Whatever, LQ just made a terrible waste of his last shot then, since he claimed 2 shot.
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #267) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:01 pm

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In post 1485, Boonskiies wrote:I’m obviously town this game, by the way. That was a classic Boon tunnel on acid. I crumbed my role correctly. My gambit with Tchill makes no sense coming from a scum perspective. I feel like you see this Schadd.

I’ll out my second Result now.

Egg is vanilla.

@Luv - yet another player who i was town reading yet stated my paranoia of.
Now you are trying to distract the suspicion on you by trying to change the topic of discussion.
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #268) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:02 pm

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In post 1486, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1483, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1482, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1480, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1, Carcalilly wrote:2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3
i am rather% sure someone has pointed this out.
Well, fuck me, right?

Whatever, LQ just made a terrible waste of his last shot then, since he claimed 2 shot.
You're avoiding why you are not dead.
How? I’ve already explained that stuff. If I was scum, I’d have fake claimed something to get me out of it and have a buddy of mine to claim something to back me up.
You think your self meta means anything to me?
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #269) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:02 pm

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In post 1488, Boonskiies wrote:You’re a claimed vig who stated two targets you were going to shoot. At least one of them are scum, which means you were roleblocked. Please have some common sense.

Like I’ve stated this.
Than why did you say you thought I didn't shoot? You think I lie like that as Town?
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #270) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 1494, Boonskiies wrote:Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,
This is manipulative as shit.
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #271) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:10 pm

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In post 1498, Boonskiies wrote:im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.
K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #272) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:15 pm

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In post 1502, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1500, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1498, Boonskiies wrote:im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.
K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?
Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.
Considering this is Carc game, I don't think this is likely.
In post 1503, Boonskiies wrote:And there could be an alignment cop in this game.
Yeah, which is why I think you claimed vanilla cop - to draw out the real cop claim.
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #273) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:15 pm

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In post 1505, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1497, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1494, Boonskiies wrote:Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,
This is manipulative as shit.
Also, with this fucking shit, you made a fucking thread about this kind of thing, yet fail to even have a sense that it could possibly be happening again. Holy fuck, get off your high horse.
This is how I Scum hunt G.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #274) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:19 pm

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In post 1508, Boonskiies wrote:If you are to believe I’m scum, you’d have to believe that i setup my Vanilla cop claim from my first post instead of claiming the much better potential role in Neapolitan, which is known that I like Neapolitan as a role much better than Vanilla Cop, and actively crumbed it throughout the game. My gambits even make sense with that in mind.

If you seriously think I’m scum here, you need to re-evaluate how you play.
Quote all the times you crumbed.

I don't consider you saying "I'm vanilla" a crumb.
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #275) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 1509, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1506, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1502, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1500, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1498, Boonskiies wrote:im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.
K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?
Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.
Considering this is Carc game, I don't think this is likely.
In post 1503, Boonskiies wrote:And there could be an alignment cop in this game.
Yeah, which is why I think you claimed vanilla cop - to draw out the real cop claim.
This is fucking bullshit. I have shown that I was crumbing Vanilla Cop before the miller claim. Why the hell would I expect there to be a real cop then?
So why aren't you voting Chill? Why did you go after Acid D2 instead of Chill?
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #276) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:22 pm

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In post 1511, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 663, Boonskiies wrote:
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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.
Oh, I also did this.
Like, really? You’re going to say I planned on a miller claiming after posts like this, and then claimed vanilla cop, after all this, to try and out a real cop? Why the fuck would claiming Vanilla Cop out a real cop in the first place? That doesn’t even counter claim a real cop. I even stated that an alignment cop shouldn’t claim if they exist.
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #277) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 1514, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1512, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1509, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1506, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1502, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1500, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1498, Boonskiies wrote:im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.
K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?
Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.
Considering this is Carc game, I don't think this is likely.
In post 1503, Boonskiies wrote:And there could be an alignment cop in this game.
Yeah, which is why I think you claimed vanilla cop - to draw out the real cop claim.
This is fucking bullshit. I have shown that I was crumbing Vanilla Cop before the miller claim. Why the hell would I expect there to be a real cop then?
So why aren't you voting Chill? Why did you go after Acid D2 instead of Chill?
I’ve explained this so many times. You really need to read the game more clearly. Acid was incredibly scummy to me, and I got in a 1v1 there. Why would I go after Tchill? I didn’t scum read him. He passed my gambit successfully as well. I had nothing to go after him for. I was paranoid, but that’s common with a miller claim. That’s really the only reason I would push him further. So I judged off play.
You said I should shoot Chill....
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #278) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 1515, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1513, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1511, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 663, Boonskiies wrote:
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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.
Oh, I also did this.
Like, really? You’re going to say I planned on a miller claiming after posts like this, and then claimed vanilla cop, after all this, to try and out a real cop? Why the fuck would claiming Vanilla Cop out a real cop in the first place? That doesn’t even counter claim a real cop. I even stated that an alignment cop shouldn’t claim if they exist.
You could be vanilla cop as Scum.
Sure. But you are tunneled.

Say this to yourself but replace scum with town. Just look that over. Please. We have to stop this.
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #279) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:28 pm

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In post 1516, Boonskiies wrote:I’m not exactly sure why you even scum read me, but why can’t that just be Town who poorly tunneled another townie, something you yourself have stated you know you have a problem with doing.
I haven't said I have a problem tunneling.

Besides, I am still coming up with reasons for why you could be Scum.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #280) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:33 pm

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I think Lalendra is Town.
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #281) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:46 pm

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Reads

I think Boon is Town and I think Uzi looks really bad for his theory on a BP traitor in a 10:3 setup. I also think Shadd is Town as well.

So overall my Town list looks like this:

Boon
Egg
Lalendra

Scum reads look like:

Uzi
Chill
Havo

So that leaves my Null as:

Shea

I think we win this game if we make a Town block of:

LQ
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #282) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:46 pm

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In post 1537, Havo wrote:
In post 1534, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Lalendra is Town.
What results did you get from your nite action? Specifically.
Why does it matter?
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #283) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:47 pm

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@Boon, are you an X-shot?
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #284) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:49 pm

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In post 1538, LicketyQuickety wrote:Reads

I think Boon is Town and I think Uzi looks really bad for his theory on a BP traitor in a 10:3 setup. I also think Shadd is Town as well.

So overall my Town list looks like this:

Boon
Egg
Lalendra
Schadd


Scum reads look like:

Uzi
Chill
Havo

So that leaves my Null as:

Shea

I think we win this game if we make a Town block of:

LQ
Boon
Egg
Lalendra
Sorry Shadd should be in my TRs but not my Town Block reads.
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #285) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:49 pm

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In post 1541, Havo wrote:
In post 1539, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1537, Havo wrote:
In post 1534, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Lalendra is Town.
What results did you get from your nite action? Specifically.
Why does it matter?
Because I'm trying to solve the damn game.

Did you get "No Result"?
Why would I get any result if I am Vig?
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #286) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:04 pm

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In post 1544, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I wasn’t referring to how common role blocker is but traitor Boon. However, I’d like to dumpster dive the archives to see how often scum are given both roles.

Am I missing something about mafia traitor and 10 vs. 3, LQ?
The roles we are aware of in the game are:

Doc
Vig
vanilla cop
miller

There most probably one more TPR, likely one that can negate kills.

That gives us 5 TPRs.

If the setup is 10:3 with one traitor, this means even if both group Scum have PR's, then its 5:2 and they are still crippled because of the lack of ability to communicate with all the Scum. And then to say that traitor is BP... why? What the hell tells you that A.) There is a traitor and B.) That it is a BP Scum? The only reason to think this is to say Boon is this role. Its just not likely at all. Its such a reach its not even funny.

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Post Post #1557 (isolation #287) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:13 pm

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In post 1550, Boonskiies wrote:Why is Schadd a town read for you?
I liked what he did at the begging of this day phase a lot. Didn't seem like he was faking Scum hunting - looked pretty legit IMO.

P-Edit

You just slipped Boon.

If its a regular Scum BP then that makes you Scum.

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Post Post #1564 (isolation #288) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 1562, Boonskiies wrote:It’s not regular bp, which was your whole case there, it’s a roleblocker of some sort.

The actual “slip” is a LUV slip, not mine. You are just too ignorant to be able to comprehend that. And it’s not a LUV slip, it’s just he got caught out through that,
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #289) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:37 pm

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Post Post #1574 (isolation #290) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:43 pm

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In post 1552, Boonskiies wrote:Are there any traitor crumbs somewhere? Scum might actually have a traitor if that’s the route he chose to go. I don’t understand why it couldn’t have just been regular scum bp over traitor.
In post 1562, Boonskiies wrote:It’s not regular bp, which was your whole case there, it’s a roleblocker of some sort.

The actual “slip” is a LUV slip, not mine. You are just too ignorant to be able to comprehend that. And it’s not a LUV slip, it’s just he got caught out through that,
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Post Post #1590 (isolation #291) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:04 pm

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In post 1578, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1573, Boonskiies wrote:Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case to explain the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.
This effectively proves that I can’t be scum bp unless I’m the traitor, which contradicts LQ’s reasoning.

But yeah, I’m probably blacklisting LQ after this game. He doesn’t even attempt to understand things. I can handle tunneling town, which is why I’m fine with players like Mulch and WhyMafia, but when they continuously go back and forth and don’t even consider elsewise, it’s not okay. It’s why I blacklisted RC for a long time. Every single game no matter what he would death tunnel me. Generally he can’t get me lynched, but nonetheless, every single time he did it, I was town. He never failed to death tunnel me. I played with him on an alt, and he said I was his hero because I was game solving, proving that he just had a death tunnel out for me, subconsciously.

I don’t tolerate that kind of thing.
I'm trying to understand why you say regular Scum could be BP.
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #292) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 1592, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1590, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1578, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1573, Boonskiies wrote:Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case to explain the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.
This effectively proves that I can’t be scum bp unless I’m the traitor, which contradicts LQ’s reasoning.

But yeah, I’m probably blacklisting LQ after this game. He doesn’t even attempt to understand things. I can handle tunneling town, which is why I’m fine with players like Mulch and WhyMafia, but when they continuously go back and forth and don’t even consider elsewise, it’s not okay. It’s why I blacklisted RC for a long time. Every single game no matter what he would death tunnel me. Generally he can’t get me lynched, but nonetheless, every single time he did it, I was town. He never failed to death tunnel me. I played with him on an alt, and he said I was his hero because I was game solving, proving that he just had a death tunnel out for me, subconsciously.

I don’t tolerate that kind of thing.
I'm trying to understand why you say regular Scum could be BP.
Don’t bother. This shows how ignorant you are and how much you don’t understand what was posted. I absolutely don’t think regular scum can be BP. I said, multiple times now, that LUV shouldn’t have assumed a BP traitor at all, and I feel there was no reason to state traitor from his perspective than just say bp. There was no reason to assume it was traitor. His defense was that bp traitor was more likely, but I’ve seen multiple scum bp before along with scum commuter, and I’ve never actually seen bp traitor.
Well, you are accusing me of not trying to understand something and then when I say what I am trying to understand you tell me not to bother.

You can't have it both ways Boon.
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #293) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:19 pm

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In post 1597, Boonskiies wrote:Your last reads list was so good, I don’t understand.

Like, if I’m scum, who are my partners? I could see someone saying Tchill, but other than, I really don’t think I make sense as partners with anyone.

You hate the self meta, but look at my scum games. I always make sure people are tied to me somehow for WIFOM reasonings to take townies down with me with my flip or save myself with their flips.
so Chill and Uzi are your partners?
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Post Post #1607 (isolation #294) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:23 pm

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In post 1603, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1600, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1597, Boonskiies wrote:Your last reads list was so good, I don’t understand.

Like, if I’m scum, who are my partners? I could see someone saying Tchill, but other than, I really don’t think I make sense as partners with anyone.

You hate the self meta, but look at my scum games. I always make sure people are tied to me somehow for WIFOM reasonings to take townies down with me with my flip or save myself with their flips.
so Chill and Uzi are your partners?
Sure, I can work with this. Let’s lynch them both, then you can mislynch me after and figure out the last scum after that. Deal?
They are both contingent on you tho.
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #295) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 1611, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1610, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Boon, if you’re town here, I don’t understand how you can have me and tchill as scum. I pushed him hard earlier and he’s had me in his scum pool since the beginning of Day 2 and even attempted to lead the wagon on me.
EBWOP.
I see. So Scum don't distance. I think that is what you are saying here.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #296) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:34 pm

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In post 1608, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1607, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1603, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1600, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1597, Boonskiies wrote:Your last reads list was so good, I don’t understand.

Like, if I’m scum, who are my partners? I could see someone saying Tchill, but other than, I really don’t think I make sense as partners with anyone.

You hate the self meta, but look at my scum games. I always make sure people are tied to me somehow for WIFOM reasonings to take townies down with me with my flip or save myself with their flips.
so Chill and Uzi are your partners?
Sure, I can work with this. Let’s lynch them both, then you can mislynch me after and figure out the last scum after that. Deal?
They are both contingent on you tho.
Yeah, okay. I get it. You’re just bad. No reason to continue talking. You literally made a LUV case earlier separate from me.
I guess I was right on Uzi as well? I think my reads have been pretty good this game, would you agree?
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #297) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:37 pm

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In post 1616, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1613, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1608, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1607, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1603, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1600, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1597, Boonskiies wrote:Your last reads list was so good, I don’t understand.

Like, if I’m scum, who are my partners? I could see someone saying Tchill, but other than, I really don’t think I make sense as partners with anyone.

You hate the self meta, but look at my scum games. I always make sure people are tied to me somehow for WIFOM reasonings to take townies down with me with my flip or save myself with their flips.
so Chill and Uzi are your partners?
Sure, I can work with this. Let’s lynch them both, then you can mislynch me after and figure out the last scum after that. Deal?
They are both contingent on you tho.
Yeah, okay. I get it. You’re just bad. No reason to continue talking. You literally made a LUV case earlier separate from me.
I guess I was right on Uzi as well? I think my reads have been pretty good this game, would you agree?
No. I’m town.
But this post contradicts that:
In post 1609, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1538, LicketyQuickety wrote:Reads

I think Boon is Town and I think Uzi looks really bad for his theory on a BP traitor in a 10:3 setup. I also think Shadd is Town as well.

So overall my Town list looks like this:

Boon
Egg
Lalendra

Scum reads look like:

Uzi
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Havo

So that leaves my Null as:

Shea

I think we win this game if we make a Town block of:

LQ
Boon
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Lalendra
This post proves that you think otherwise, or just don’t remember anything in this game.
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #298) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:44 pm

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In post 1620, Boonskiies wrote:@LQ - you backtracked, so that makes it even worse. If you didn’t backtrack the way you have, maybe I would agree. You even gave in on the acid lynch, where if you thought he was town, you should have never compromised, even if you would get some pressure for it
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #299) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:02 pm

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Post Post #1627 (isolation #300) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:03 pm

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Scum team is Boon, Uzi, Chill.
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #301) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:18 pm

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In post 1629, Boonskiies wrote:Like LQ is a liability in almost ready to just policy lynch him.
Do you think your vote is better served PLing me than voting yourself?
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #302) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 1631, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1630, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1629, Boonskiies wrote:Like LQ is a liability in almost ready to just policy lynch him.
Do you think your vote is better served PLing me than voting yourself?
Yep. 100% yes, because at least tomorrow I’d be able to fight everyone else, maybe figure out who scum is, and then the remaining town can possibly see that I’m town.

Like, you being lynched here today raises town winning chance by much more than it does without it.

I’m flat out done with this. When you see that I’m town, reevaluate yourself. Please. Because I was trying to work with you left and right, and you flat out refused, so that’s on you.

VOTE: Lickety
If you flip Town, I will def reevalutate myself. No need to worry about that.

Its just that there is no reason to say regular Scum could be BP unless it was true. Its the same thing you tried to use to implicate Uzi for slipping. I mean for Christs sake you have a slipped Mafia and you would still rather PL me? Wut?
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #303) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:34 pm

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In post 1634, Boonskiies wrote:YeH, you are incredibly ignorant. Never stated there could be BP. I’ve explained this multiple times that I said LUV was scummy because of his posting of traitor instead of not traitor. I flat out stated I absolutely don’t think there can be a scum BP here, yet you’re too much of an idiot to realize that.
I will remind you of the words you spoke:
In post 1574, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1552, Boonskiies wrote:Are there any traitor crumbs somewhere? Scum might actually have a traitor if that’s the route he chose to go.
I don’t understand why it couldn’t have just been regular scum bp over traitor.
In post 1562, Boonskiies wrote:It’s not regular bp, which was your whole case there, it’s a roleblocker of some sort.

The actual “slip” is a LUV slip, not mine.
You are just too ignorant to be able to comprehend that. And it’s not a LUV slip, it’s just he got caught out through that,
For the first one: why say this unless it is a possibility?

For the second one: here you are admitting that Uzi slipped, which I was waiting on pointing out myself, but before I found the right moment to point this out, you play it off like its Uzi's fault and you are just trying to throw Uzi under the bus for Town cred.
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Post Post #1644 (isolation #304) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:38 pm

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In post 1636, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 663, Boonskiies wrote:
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cop
ped.

By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.
Oh, I also did this.
Requoting this because ignorant LQ will be ignorant.

Can Mulch replace into my slot?
That only matters if Chill is Miller, which you yourself said you were wary of because you don't trust Miller claims. If Chill is not Miller, and you got a result of him being not vanilla, then you are Suspect for not pursuing Chill and instead go after Acid, which makes no sense if you are Town.
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #305) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:40 pm

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In post 1639, Boonskiies wrote:What is the fucking point of the Vanilla cop claim in that case?
As safe claim, duh. Pluse it gives you an out to fish for PR's and then just play it off like a gambit.
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #306) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:42 pm

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In post 1647, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1644, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1636, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 663, Boonskiies wrote:
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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.
Oh, I also did this.
Requoting this because ignorant LQ will be ignorant.

Can Mulch replace into my slot?
That only matters if Chill is Miller, which you yourself said you were wary of because you don't trust Miller claims. If Chill is not Miller, and you got a result of him being not vanilla, then you are Suspect for not pursuing Chill and instead go after Acid, which makes no sense if you are Town.
Yeah, you’re so fucking bad.
OK I will hear you out, I could be wrong.

Explain it to me like I am 5.
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Post Post #1656 (isolation #307) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:49 pm

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In post 1652, Boonskiies wrote:No, I’m done. You can go back and read my posts. I did it very clearly.
So this is the post in question, I think:
In post 1573, Boonskiies wrote:Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case to explain the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.
So, I am thinking a commuter could be a possibility here. I thought you mentioned something about commuter at one point. Why did you fail to mention that in this post?
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #308) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:53 pm

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In post 1657, Boonskiies wrote:Because I’m not a commuter...
In post 1658, Boonskiies wrote:You shot at me. Why would the fact there’s a commuter matter? I’m not a commuter, therefore you didn’t shoot at a commuter.
In post 1659, Boonskiies wrote:Like, come on, that’s common sense.
OK, that is true, but why can't you be BP Group Scum? That is what I was considering.
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Post Post #1667 (isolation #309) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:03 pm

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In post 1665, Boonskiies wrote:I don’t know what BP group scum means.
Mafia is Group Scum as long as they are not Traitor. Therefore Group Scum BP would be a BP regular Scum.
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #310) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:08 pm

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@shadd_ why are you not voting Boon?
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #311) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:13 pm

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In post 1672, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1669, LicketyQuickety wrote:@shadd_ why are you not voting Boon?
currently i think my top priority with respect to my wincon is for him to stop flaming in thread and i don't think voting him will be helpful unless he either settles down or leaves the game.

also how do people put the underscore at the end but not the c
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #312) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:37 pm

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In post 1687, Boonskiies wrote:For town. That’s actually not the highest chance of a scum win. Highest chance of a scum win is to lynch me.
This sounds like something Donald Trump would say, honestly.
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #313) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:38 pm

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And its pretty lame of you to out both your partners. I think that is kinda close to not playing to your win con.
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #314) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:45 pm

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In post 1695, Boonskiies wrote:It’s because you tunnel and don’t look for scum. You just look for who you want to lynch. There’s a difference.
You got me pegged Boon. I'm legit impressed. Are you done now?
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #315) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:51 pm

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In post 1698, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1696, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1695, Boonskiies wrote:It’s because you tunnel and don’t look for scum. You just look for who you want to lynch. There’s a difference.
You got me pegged Boon. I'm legit impressed. Are you done now?
I’ll be done when you get policy lynched.
You are insufferable.

you're just sore I caught you. You don't need to degrade me to make your point. At this point, I'd say yeah, you are being toxic.
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #316) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:00 pm

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In post 1712, Boonskiies wrote:Tchill doesn’t have a reason to defend me and then not policy lynch LQ.
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #317) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:15 pm

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I recently calculated the win rates of Town/Scum for Normals and Newbies. Turns out if I win this game I will be about 5 pts below average for Normals as Town. I think newbies Scum win rates is like ~80% or something ridiculous like that and I have a 66.7% win rate as Town for Newbies. Just so you're aware.
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Post Post #1753 (isolation #318) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:03 am

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In post 1751, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:There’s no slip, Lalendra.

Boon is claiming to be a vanilla cop so the possible outcomes for why he didn’t get killed are:

He was targeted by a doctor
He was targeted by a jail keeper
He’s bulletproof
LQ was role blocked

We can obviously rule out the first two. There could be another doctor but I find that unlikely here especially with Tacos flipping 2-shot. It applies that Lily and whoever reviewed this didn’t want a full doctor in the first place so the chances of their being 2 of them is practically zero.

I explained why there possibly could be no role blocker in the game. I shared two games that are even on my Wiki in which I seen traitor given the bulletproof modifier. LQ was in even one of them. I decided to dig because I could be wrong on Boon and we could also be TvT. It turns out that in Minis, it’s very rare for a traitor to be bulletproof. In fact, it only has happened 1 time. Regular scum have been given the bulletproof modifier a grand total of 6 times! So I was extremely wrong but that explains where Boon is coming from where he states he’s seen it given to scum many times.

So you see, if you’re town here, it’s a simple misunderstanding. My experiences led me to believe that he could be traitor, his led him to assume I’m reaching.

I think I’m at L-1 though so I’m going to claim. I am a
town watcher enabler
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #319) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:35 am

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In post 1754, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can’t explain it.

I don’t see scum choosing to no kill so whoever scum shot at is either bulletproof, commuter, protected by a doctor, or targeted by a rilestopper. Or whoever did the kill was jail kept. Ton of possibilities.
These are the roles we know about so far:

Doc
Miller
Vanilla Cop
Vig
Watcher enabler

Clearly your claim is the odd one out.
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #320) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:01 am

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In post 1776, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Here’s where we are at:

Acid - VT
Boon - Vanilla Cop

Errant - VT
Lalendra - VT

Me - Watcher Enabler

Mumble - VT
Tacos - 2-Shot Doc
tchill13 - Miller


Bolded are still alive.
Nice list. I think you are forgetting one tho.
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #321) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:30 pm

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@Transcend, can we get a VC?
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #322) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:24 pm

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Speaking of miller claim...

From my first game on site:

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Post Post #1829 (isolation #323) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:43 pm

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Pre-Flip, both of you.
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #324) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:52 pm

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Schadd_ is going to flip Town.
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #325) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:56 pm

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In post 1840, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1838, schadd_ wrote:
In post 1833, Tchill13 wrote:i hope your majoring in a career for comedy.
i'm on our improv team actually! but i dunno that there is a comedy major here (there's def. a theatre one and that probably has something but idk)
In post 1839, LicketyQuickety wrote:Schadd_ is going to flip Town.
schadd is conf scum.

VOTE: schadd
I don't even mind because you are Scum with boon and Uzi.
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #326) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:03 pm

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In post 1844, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1842, Lalendra wrote:Don't lynch the watcher enabler please.
We’re not. We’re lynching the other one out of Luv and Schadd.

Also, scum team is basically confirmed Status, Schadd, and Egg at this point.
You've switched your reads so many times it's lost all meaning...
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #327) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:34 pm

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LOL.

Lalendra, you realize I am like confirmed Town right?
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Post Post #1865 (isolation #328) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:15 pm

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In post 1864, Lalendra wrote:I think some of the people voting you beg to differ, not everyone on your wagon is a PL.
Who's all voting me?
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #329) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:19 pm

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@Lalendra,

Who killed toco's?
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #330) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 1870, Havo wrote:Uh....

Why the Hell are you guys voting the Town Vig?
Boon is trying to PL me and Lalendra is just not thinking clearly.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #331) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:44 pm

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In post 1873, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 1870, Havo wrote:Uh....

Why the Hell are you guys voting the Town Vig?
its obvious you didn't see it? boon claimed he solved the game and gave us the scum team. then he wanted to PL LQ because... because... :shifty:
Because he is Scum obviously.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #332) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:14 pm

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In post 1889, Havo wrote:
In post 1839, LicketyQuickety wrote:Schadd_ is going to flip Town.
Why do you think this?

Who is your top 2 scum reads?
I'd rather not say.
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #333) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:17 pm

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Boon saying he is confirmed Town makes me sick to my stomach.
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #334) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:20 pm

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In post 1902, Havo wrote:
In post 1891, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1889, Havo wrote:
In post 1839, LicketyQuickety wrote:Schadd_ is going to flip Town.
Why do you think this?

Who is your top 2 scum reads?
I'd rather not say.
So if we go to nite and you die .......

Guess you're taking them to the grave then.
I've said who I think is Scum multiple times.

Boon can't even keep his story straight enough to follow through with the PL on me. He's Scum, obviously.
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #335) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:31 pm

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In post 1906, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1904, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1902, Havo wrote:
In post 1891, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1889, Havo wrote:
In post 1839, LicketyQuickety wrote:Schadd_ is going to flip Town.
Why do you think this?

Who is your top 2 scum reads?
I'd rather not say.
So if we go to nite and you die .......

Guess you're taking them to the grave then.
I've said who I think is Scum multiple times.

Boon can't even keep his story straight enough to follow through with the PL on me. He's Scum, obviously.
What “story” isn’t being kept straight? Pretty sure the trajectory for every single thing out there for me is pretty all out in the open. And the fact you said obviously, shows your skill level, so there’s a reason you aren’t being taken seriously here, bottom of the barrel town. If you were scum, though, then damn, you duped me, but I don’t believe you’d have that great a scum game either.
Quit playing with the scissors and shit and cut the crap. I have a good Town game buddy and I still have a winning record as Scum, so your full of shit.

Guess when the last time I said someone slipped was? Its prolly been over a year since I said someone slipped. That should tell you what I think of that comment, bro.
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #336) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:38 pm

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You don't even have a fucking wiki, buddy. Are we just supposed to just believe you that you are as good as you say you are?

Here's some info for you:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=70727

I'm #6 on this list. Not good enough?

https://pastebin.com/pVxhsKBk

I'm 25 on this one out of 288.
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #337) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:51 pm

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1913048394

I'm 428/2636 and that's before I had above a 50% win rate as Scum. I'm in the top 3% for Town in this.

So you have no fucking idea what you are talking about when you say I am bad at this game.
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #338) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:58 pm

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In post 1923, Boonskiies wrote:
Yeah, he shot our doctor here too.
He did that because he knows who is Scum.
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Post Post #1979 (isolation #339) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:05 pm

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In post 1974, Toto wrote:
In post 1970, Havo wrote:
In post 1968, Toto wrote:
In post 1962, Toto wrote:mafia don't rage quit like that
So you’re saying Boon just sucks?
I'm saying he was genuinely frustrated the whole day, and lynching town was the last drop of water needed to go and quit the game. Why would he do that if he was scum?

This is exactly why I replaced him. I hate playing as scum and I knew this guy was town.

Also, can you guys wait for me to catch up before voting, we are in LyLo if I'm not mistaken here.
You are arguing that replacing out is AI when it is not.
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #340) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:11 pm

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@Toto, how can you know Boon was Town if you didn't even read the game?
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #341) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:22 pm

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VOTE: Lalendra

Claim.
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #342) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 1984, Toto wrote:Scum generally don't rage quit because they are 'pinned'.

They get frustrated, but I mean, LUV, really? he fought for god knows how many pages with LQ, managed to get the wagon off him into town, and then after all that quitted, in his moment of victory?

You are better than this.

Help me catch up, who is scum?
There was never a "wagon" on Boon, it was just me the whole time.
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #343) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 1988, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1984, Toto wrote:Scum generally don't rage quit because they are 'pinned'.

They get frustrated, but I mean, LUV, really? he fought for god knows how many pages with LQ, managed to get the wagon off him into town, and then after all that quitted, in his moment of victory?

You are better than this.

Help me catch up, who is scum?
What? What do they rage quit over then? It’s usually from being pinned or because they cannot break town having found each other and clicking.

And so are you my friend! There’s no town motivation for Boon quit on the town when you consider the way he talks himself up.

I feel strongly about your slot and I’m very suspicious of Lalendra.
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #344) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 1992, Toto wrote:LQ, do you have any other scum/town reads, can you please assume I'm town for now and help me out here.
No, I am not just going to ASSUME you are Town.

I want lalendra to claim.
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #345) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:24 pm

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Post Post #2036 (isolation #346) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:25 pm

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Uzi, in what world are you Sus of Lalendra knowing you are watcher enabler? That makes no sense.
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Post Post #2039 (isolation #347) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:26 pm

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Well, I finally have a Town read on Shea, so that's good.
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #348) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 2038, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2036, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi, in what world are you Sus of Lalendra knowing you are watcher enabler? That makes no sense.
Mafia can roll watcher too..
What do you think of the miller claim?
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #349) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:33 pm

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In post 2043, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2040, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2038, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2036, LicketyQuickety wrote:Uzi, in what world are you Sus of Lalendra knowing you are watcher enabler? That makes no sense.
Mafia can roll watcher too..
What do you think of the miller claim?
I’m still where I was at when he first claimed it.

My experiences with tchill lead me to believe he would not claim it unless he was coached and talked into doing so and that really only limits his partner to being Boon’s slot. My experiences with scum in general lead me to believe that scum just don’t fake claim miller so I’m kind of leaning toward Lily just putting it in as a red herring.
If that's the case, are you going to use this game as one of your games on record?
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Post Post #2046 (isolation #350) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:36 pm

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Havo, I think you are pretty much lock clear at this point so I want to work with you.

Do you find it strange that Scum DIDN'T pile on Lalendra?
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #351) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:39 pm

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My Town reads, as strange as this is, are:

Havo, shea.

I'll be trying to work with these guys the most to solve this game.

I don't think Shea is accusing Lalendra of being hammer happy without just cause. Their mix up with who was addressing them (it was Havo, not me) seems to be a Town tell to me as well.
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #352) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 pm

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Shea is TSQ
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #353) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:46 pm

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In post 2053, Toto wrote:K, anyone care to explain the case on Lalendra (I'm honestly trying to catchup but I really would like to not have to read the entire game)
For one, she's had really shallow reasoning the whole game so far. She had like one post that was in depth and that is just not enough for a TR IMO. Everything else she has just kinda said is gut. She also hasn't really been Scum hunting at all. And I voted her and not one piled on as well.
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #354) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:01 pm

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So i think I agree with Shea and am pretty confident that Chill and Lalendra are both Scum here. But who is the third? I'm inclined to think its Uzi.
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Post Post #2063 (isolation #355) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:05 pm

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In post 2060, Toto wrote:Why is Havo town?
Because there was a night with no deaths when I shot at your slot.
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Post Post #2064 (isolation #356) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:06 pm

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In post 2062, Thestatusquo wrote:*most sense as scum with lalendra.

the easy answer is i am not at all confident that they are but i am pretty confident in lalendra.
Don't you think two faux roles in the game is a bit much?
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #357) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:53 pm

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In post 2068, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2059, LicketyQuickety wrote:So i think I agree with Shea and am pretty confident that Chill and Lalendra are both Scum here. But who is the third? I'm inclined to think its Uzi.
how in the world are me and lalendra connected?
I Don't care about how you are connected, honestly. Nice red herring tho.
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Post Post #2075 (isolation #358) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:18 pm

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In post 2074, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2073, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2068, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2059, LicketyQuickety wrote:So i think I agree with Shea and am pretty confident that Chill and Lalendra are both Scum here. But who is the third? I'm inclined to think its Uzi.
how in the world are me and lalendra connected?
I Don't care about how you are connected, honestly. Nice red herring tho.
Lmao I have to take you seriously you're pretty much conf town and it's lylo... So basically PoE?
Half that and half your claim.
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #359) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:27 pm

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In post 2076, Toto wrote:
In post 25, Lalendra wrote:Not on board with the LQ lunch because
I'm also VT
and was considering claiming it straight out the gate.
Wait, Lalendra claimed VT ?
check and mate. Nice find.
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #360) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:49 am

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Toto, are you an Xshot?
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #361) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:51 am

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In post 2085, Lalendra wrote:I'm not going to try to claim that my play has been perfect this game. But if you lynch me, I WILL flip town watcher. And we really can't afford that.
Mistake.
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #362) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:53 am

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I am going to maintain that the Scum team is Uzi, Chill, and Lalendra unless I see evidence to the contrary.
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #363) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:32 pm

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At least I was right about Chill pretty much all game long..
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #364) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:00 pm

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In post 2206, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2205, LicketyQuickety wrote:At least I was right about Chill pretty much all game long..
Then you should have accepted my deal and we lynched Tchill, then LUV, then me.
Why should I ever agree to the terms of someone who "is winning more Scum games than anyone on site right now?"
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #365) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:01 pm

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And you should stop triple quadruple and more posting, that shit is annoying.
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Post Post #2215 (isolation #366) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:49 pm

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In post 2213, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2209, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2206, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2205, LicketyQuickety wrote:At least I was right about Chill pretty much all game long..
Then you should have accepted my deal and we lynched Tchill, then LUV, then me.
Why should I ever agree to the terms of someone who "is winning more Scum games than anyone on site right now?"
Yeah, but you flat out refused to evaluate literally anything. You didn’t even try to win. If you thought Tchill/LUv was scum too, you should have been willing to go there. You were wrong on the slip, and that was literally your entire reasoning.
I did reevaluate. I had Toto as Leaning Town. IDK if I could really help replacing Shea for Lalendra when she claimed VT at the beginning of the game and then claimed watcher later. Regardless I still had 2/3 of the Scum Scumread. Hindsight, I should have prolly listened to you more, but really, you pushed through 2 mislynches. Even after all that I ended up Town reading your slot.
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #367) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:58 pm

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In post 2216, mastina wrote:
In post 2176, Transcend wrote:
Tchill13 the...
Spoiler:
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Small correction: That was a two-shot roleblocker.
Two-shot roleblocker, two-shot vigilante, two-shot bulletproof, two-shot doctor.
This is exactly why I asked Toto if he was 2-Shot...
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #368) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:58 pm

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In post 2217, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2216, mastina wrote:
In post 2176, Transcend wrote:
Tchill13 the...
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Small correction: That was a two-shot roleblocker.
Two-shot roleblocker, two-shot vigilante, two-shot bulletproof, two-shot doctor.
This is exactly why I asked Toto if he was X-Shot...
EBWOP

Like, the miller claim makes no sense in this setup. Neither does Watcher Enabler.
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #369) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:59 pm

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In post 2218, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I felt like I was scum read more out of paranoia than anything :lol:
OFC you would say that.
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Post Post #2222 (isolation #370) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:01 am

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In post 2221, mastina wrote:
In post 2219, LicketyQuickety wrote:Like, the miller claim makes no sense in this setup. Neither does Watcher Enabler.
Well the enabler was a real role, just not a town one. :P
But it still makes no sense as a Town role.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #371) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:07 am

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In post 2223, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2220, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2218, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I felt like I was scum read more out of paranoia than anything :lol:
OFC you would say that.
None of what I was pushed on was AI so yeah.
You were pushed for going after one person all game... I'd say that is AI, yeah.
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #372) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:12 am

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In post 2225, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2224, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2223, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2220, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2218, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I felt like I was scum read more out of paranoia than anything :lol:
OFC you would say that.
None of what I was pushed on was AI so yeah.
You were pushed for going after one person all game... I'd say that is AI, yeah.
No it isn’t. Tunneling is more of a play style choice.
I disagree. Going after one person all game without looking at anyone else is Scummy M8.

You were also pushed for skating by not doing much. If that's not AI either, what is?
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #373) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:14 am

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And it wasn't even a tunnel really because you were basically just casually throwing out accusation instead of being intent on lynching me.
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #374) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:26 am

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In post 2228, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Effort isn’t AI either. See the Mumble and Schadd lynches.

It’s all about motivation. You have to look for who is exaggerating, distorting, and manipulating. Town never do those things.
In post 2229, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:No I rarely push for lynches hard as either alignment.
Skating by is more than just lack of effort Uzi.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #375) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:36 am

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In post 2232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 2231, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I only brought it up because it’s hard for towns on this site to recognize 'Hey: what I’m pushing or scum reading can come from either alignment or in what world scum say or do x'.

The reasons I was pushed or scum read for will result in a lot more losses than wins.
EBWOP.
So in your mind, you played a perfect Scum game?

I hope you didn't /out my game because of this discussion, that would be pretty weak.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #376) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:17 am

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IDK why people are complimenting Chill on his good play?

Every time I accused him of something, he dodged. Like every time. I was the only person who consistently read Chill as Scum and I am not sure why...
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #377) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 2256, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:He fakeclaimed miller as scum and won in dominating fashion. How can you not compliment him?
Because I don't think he played a good Scum game. He didn't even really case anyone. Not all Scum wins mean that Scum played great.

If Boon would have gone after Chill instead of Acid, this game goes completely differently.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #378) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:47 am

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In post 2268, skirt skirt wrote:LQ isn't as bad as you think he is. He would've come around if you appealed differently.

I don't think it needs to be said claiming in twilight there was objectively awful, but...... it ended up with scum saving the cop so lol GG WP?
I agree I should not have claimed. I was irritated people were Scum reading me. I have this problem all the time. I think I am playing Townie as shit, but people don't understand me so I get Scum read. It ends with me getting lynched D1 a lot.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #379) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:48 am

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Boon, I also think me saying you slipped was a bad move on my part. So for that I apologize. Its a case where I wasn't following my own advice, which is that unless the slip is obvious to everyone, it isn't a slip.
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #380) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:58 am

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In post 2279, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2277, skirt skirt wrote:You pushed him as SK and vocally doubted his town status for a... long time, when he was virtually an IC (inb4 lolmultiball). You were very dismissive and as the IC that doesn't really work. Policying a vig the day before LYLO in a game with the full scum team still alive is also never pro-wincon no matter what you may believe. It doesn't matter if he's momoman, pretend you're trying to teach your 10 year old how to play mafia if that's what it takes. Yknow how kids hate when their parents go "because I said so"? That doesn't just apply to kids, and that's basically how you were talking to LQ.

LQ did not play stellar. Psychologically speaking the fact he scumread you there was more on you than him though, considering how you constantly addressed him.
Again, I didn’t address him that way until after, which people are failing to talk about.

It wasn’t a because I sad so thing, I literally explained reasoning for everything in explicit detail.

And I always assume SK until something proves it otherwise, because I don’t want it counted out, especially after that Large. The 10-3 proved it otherwise, and that thought process went away afterward.

I was treating him like a player before the flat out refusal to work it out. Town should be wanting that. It’s one of the biggest reasons I didn’t play with RC forever because every game I was town with him, and every game I was death tunneled no matter what i tried to do to work with him, then I played a game with flavor Leaf, and we hard worked together, proving it was subconsciously personal.
I had RC blacklisted as well. Then I found myself in a game I didn't know he was in. The result was regrettable.
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Post Post #2291 (isolation #381) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:18 am

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We can make it to 100 pages with your help, Boon.
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #382) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:13 pm

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In post 2316, Toto wrote:
In post 2306, Tchill13 wrote:Imo if a Miller claim ever wins it's towns fault not scum.
Rest assured I am going to remember this shit.
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