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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:35 pm

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In post 224, skitter30 wrote:Cuz at the time I wrote that, the closest thing I had to a read on you, as I said earlier, was , which I found to be overly defensive. I could see caught scum saying that if they felt like they were caught for the wrong reasons.

Everything else you posted was similar to your town game or NAI or bad and the cumulative read was very slight scumlean, but close to null, so I wanted you to explain a post that I found interesting (I note that you still haven't) to try to develop a read on you.

This convo, especially your explanation for my vote, is strengthening the scumlean.
I think its more of an omgus tbh.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:36 pm

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tbf is probably the scummiest post from tiam so far
can you explain your thought behind 84?
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:38 pm

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Yeah, I can have a variety of "tones" in my posting, even in my previous games if anyone cared to actually read them. So it's a null point, if not actually a reason to town read me.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:39 pm

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ok new scummiest tiam post:
town don't want to change their tone. town want to be town read.
scum want to manipulate their tone to sound more towny.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:42 pm

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In post 228, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok new scummiest tiam post:
town don't want to change their tone. town want to be town read.
scum want to manipulate their tone to sound more towny.
I have no desire to be townread. I get townread in nearly every game I play despite not trying. And I don't "try" to change my tone, my tone has a tendancy to change based on the game state. I tend to be a very engaged player.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:42 pm

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In post 225, TwoInAMillion wrote:I think its more of an omgus tbh.
:facepalm:

Your vote on me is OMGUS. You're voting me for questioning a post that was written by you, as you felt the need to emphasize when you quoted Awoo.

I'm finding your opening post to be bad, 84 to be overly defensive, your vote on me an awful combo of OMGUS/sheeping/opportunism (you didn't even announce it was L-2) , playing the newbie card, and still ignoring my questions.

I don't see how you could reduce that to OMGUS.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:45 pm

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In post 229, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 228, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok new scummiest tiam post:
town don't want to change their tone. town want to be town read.
scum want to manipulate their tone to sound more towny.
I have no desire to be townread. I get townread in nearly every game I play despite not trying. And I don't "try" to change my tone, my tone has a tendancy to change based on the game state. I tend to be a very engaged player.
town's job is to be townread, because it makes scumhunting easier.
also from games i play with you it seems you usually get scumread not townread so that's kinda weird you think you get townread by not trying.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:46 pm

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i almost want to say skitter and tiam are both scum
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:47 pm

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I don't get where you're seeing that.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:48 pm

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gut feeling. deep down inside.
i'll ignore it for now though, still early and pre flip = no bueno
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:49 pm

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In post 231, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 229, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 228, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok new scummiest tiam post:
town don't want to change their tone. town want to be town read.
scum want to manipulate their tone to sound more towny.
I have no desire to be townread. I get townread in nearly every game I play despite not trying. And I don't "try" to change my tone, my tone has a tendancy to change based on the game state. I tend to be a very engaged player.
town's job is to be townread, because it makes scumhunting easier.
also from games i play with you it seems you usually get scumread not townread so that's kinda weird you think you get townread by not trying.
I have 4 finished games. 2 games I was endgamed. 1 game I was scum killed. I've only been lynched in one game. So clearly i get townread enough to avoid being lynched.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:50 pm

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or maybe you're so bad scum doesn't want to kill you so you can destroy town
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:51 pm

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to be fair i don't actually think your play is that bad this game i just don't agree with your points on tone and self meta
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:52 pm

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In post 236, Dunkerdoodles wrote:or maybe you're so bad scum doesn't want to kill you so you can destroy town
So you're going to go with the town-win-despite-me-not-because-of-me argument? I don't think that will be very convincing.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:53 pm

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huh
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:54 pm

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Why would scum want to keep me alive if they think I would help town?
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:55 pm

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but they think you won't help town so they keep you around
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:56 pm

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if you aren't nightkilled generally it means either your reads are really bad that game and you're pushing town or you aren't contributing as much as others.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:57 pm

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Clearly that wasn't the case considering in the wins I was not nightkilled in and still on I was contributing to most of the scum wagons.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:59 pm

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ok?
and why does this affect this game
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:00 pm

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VOTE: twoinamillion
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:02 pm

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In post 244, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok?
and why does this affect this game
Because I am being told my "tone" is scummy and I'm saying its not.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:03 pm

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of course you think your tone isn't scummy :lol:

by saying you think your tone isn't scummy it actually reinforces my believes that you are scum
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:04 pm

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You're also ignoring like everything I've said about you, and my argument is explicitly not based on your meta for tone
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:04 pm

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you shouldn't be worrying about your tone if you are town, because if you are town your tone should be pure and towny

if you are scum you would be worrying about your tone, because you'd want to be as towny as possible.
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