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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:54 pm

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First let us pick one.

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Any landmasses not even partially shown are probably not that important.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:22 am

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Sweden, they have a constitutional monarchy (lolololol) in a personal union with Norway, they are made up of sweden and no finns though they would like their finns back.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:57 am

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When you shit your pants in Lisbon cuz of Napoleón so you have to go to Río de Janeiro to get a new pair but then your son wants to stay to do Important shit and stops listening to you.

I'll startup the thing when I get home
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Post Post #5 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:07 am

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Sweden 1.5
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Post Post #7 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:36 am

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Icky Vicky 2: Electric Bugaloo
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Post Post #8 (isolation #5) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:38 pm

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After the Napoleonic wars denmark-norway was de-denmarked by sweden so it could feel a bit better about losing all its Finns.
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Together we will make Sweden Great Again.
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We have claims on finland and can attack Russia whenever, keep in mind tho they have like 3 биллион more soldiers than us
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As you can see in the top right. we are the 14th coolest country in the world, and despite having zero factories anywhere at all, the 15th most industrialized country. The country we have total political control over is our only ally.
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Most of our people are either farmers or miners. They're conservatives and they care about conservative things. Notice how we have one small tiny island in the Caribbean you can't even see on the map pls don't make me click on it
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A view of our military. One of our generals is a real croaker
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All the stuff in red is stuff we don't produce, everything else we do. It's pretty self explanatory!
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A view of some decisions we could take in the future and the dominant political party.
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Our budget everyone is dying
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Pic of the countries that are militarily weaker than us
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Post Post #9 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:43 pm

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Whoops I forgot: We have to research a technology. The four branches are army, navy, commerce (for taxation and administration), culture (education, art, social science) and industry (natural science and factory things)
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Post Post #11 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:12 pm

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Army Tech Research: -5%
Navy Tech Research: -10%
Commerce Tech Research: +5%
Culture Tech Research: +0%
Industry Tech Research: +15%

Sweden's research bonuses, there's no penalties on culture so yea we can start with that.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:51 pm

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Idk it didn´t take me long. If you´re good with HOI3 it should be relatively simple.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:51 pm

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Also yea yea I´ma upload the outcome of Prime Minister Rat in a bit but
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Post Post #17 (isolation #10) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:07 am

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Post Post #19 (isolation #11) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:33 am

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Russia tends to get bolsheviked during late 19th or early 20th century. We can swoop in during the chaos.

A common goal in a Swedish campaign is scandinavism, which means denmark would join us anyway, but we can definitely annex one of their regions. Just have to make sure we have a bigger/stronger army than them, or ally someone who does.

Attacking nonwesternized countries tends to be real easy until 1880 when the rest of Europe decides to do the same thing.

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Denmark controls Schleswig Holstein which Prussia will end up trying to conquer to form Germany. Prussia has the best land army in the game and tends to always form Germany, though it has to defeat Austria in order to do so.
Spain and the Ottoman Empire decline and usually the Netherlands/Italy and Japan take their place. Though in this campaign it shall be Sweden instead.
The colonial race starts around 1880. The best colonies are in West Africa, Egypt/East Africa and Southeast Asia.
You can´t really conquer large swaths of land in Victoria 2 unless that land is in Africa or Asia. Every war we plan gets us infamy points, go over 25 and all of Europe takes turns kicking your ass. Instead the objective is to cripple other countries (war reparations, freeing ethnic minorities [Brittany, Poland, Ukraine, India, etc], installing a puppet government to fight your wars for you) while also building up your own country. Things might seem slow now but there'll be plenty of world war ones to make things exciting in the coming decades.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:07 pm

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Prussia's main obstacles in forming Germany are Austria, then France. The best way to prevent Deustchland über alles is to prop up the Austrians, hard to do because they're shitty, but doable, maybe.
There is always the option to abandon our claims on Finland and try to befriend the Russian empire instead, but they are an unpredictable ally due to their tendency to collapse sometimes.
We could also not involve ourselves in the Danish-Prussian conflict and befriend a strong German state when the time comes.

We can only have one Great Power ally so we have to decide that before we go any further.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:18 pm

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Spoiler: These guys plus USA are great powers
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Other countries that share their color are under their sphere.


And lol, we do have poor rich folk. I've never really put too much attention to how much the rich make in the game, just always crank the tax up on everyone, but I assume that since it's only made up of landowners that sit on their hands and 0 capitalists there's not a lot for them to give us.

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The POP system in victoria 2 with the HPM mod goes landowners and capitalists, capitalists being good for funding factories and making them run better while landowners don't really do much, then the middle class: artisans (designed to give up their livelihoods and be forced into factory wage slavery), bureaucrats, intellectuals, clerks (like craftsmen but smarter) and officers (help with army and navy leadership)
And the poor which are craftsmen (make the factories profitable but ask for pesky things like 12 hour work days and public health care) farmers (who you want drive off from rural areas and force them into the city for wave slavery) laborers (same as farmers but they have pickaxes) serfs (low quality POP that only Russia and uncivs have), slaves (who you want to free from slavery so they can become farmers and laborers and eventually force into wage slavery) and soldiers that make up your army.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #14) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:06 am

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Post Post #29 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:15 am

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We'll ally France and Denmark if Denmark asks for our help. Shutting down Prussian acquisition of Schleswig-Holstein shuts down their ability to form Germany.

Keep in mind though that revolutionaries can always form Germany, but without Prussian leadership they should have smaller teeth.
I'll try to move the game along today
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Post Post #31 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:21 am

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Excuse me for the long delay. I've been suffering from a general malaise.
Uploading now.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:50 pm

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Ahh don't worry, I needed a push to remind myself to get it done.

It was... complicated to upload but here it is.

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Post Post #36 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:28 am

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Glad you liked it!

The UK tends to just hand over Cyprus to Greece, so the only worry would be the Ottomans. Our army is stronger than theirs, so if they don't have allies it shouldn't be exceedingly difficult, just need to build enough transport ships to send our troops there.
There's an event later on where the great powers decide if they should keep the Ottoman empire strong or force them to make the Balkans independent, Greece tends to be made whole after that.

Allies: Ottomans are an option. Spain would probably still be a great power if it hadn't been for the prestige hit they took for going through a revolution. Their army is a lot stronger than ours. If we "sphered" them, influenced them to the point that they basically do whatever we tell them,, they'd be a decent ally, but there's a lot of competition for influence in Spain. To fight Prussia France has to let them through their country.
Speaking of Prussia, the real schleswig war is just 3 years away. In our timeline it might take longer to happen. A French-Prussian conflict and an Austrian-Prussian conflict are inevitable. Depending on which happens first, how should we react?

Colonies: Where would you like to get some? We could take Sinai from Egypt/Panama from Colombia to form the Suez/Panama canal later. We could backstab Persia, or go for East/West/North Africa, or Afghanistan and pre-Pakistan. Since our population is small we need a strong navy to remain in power. We could just take a small strip of coastline for naval bases or form a big chunk of a colony for resource exploitation. After 1870 you can just grab as much of Africa as you want, by the way, with no consequences.

Sphere of Influence: Should we try to obtain more Italian minor states or try for somewhere else? Sphering is nice when you want to have access to the resources of a country but conquering them would be too much of a hassle. The only one that's really not a good idea to sphere is China.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:40 am

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Ah let me worry about the gritty details. I just follow whatever general policies come up in this thread.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:11 pm

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uncharacteristically nonintermittent update

Forgot to take a picture of the world map but since it was only like two years of gameplay it shouldn't have changed that much.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:50 am

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We could request military access and send troops to take out the Jacobins.

Btw it seems that the reason Prussia declared war on France was because France claimed the west bank of the Rhine as rightfully French territory and it pissed Friedrich Wilhelm IV* off.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:56 am

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Alright so it seems that this concept didn't attract enough attention and I wanna update the game so I'm just gonna drop Sweden.

Does anyone know if the thread concept could be salvaged into something more engaging?
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Post Post #45 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:14 am

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If
it's salvageable, I was thinking the actions that could be taken could be simplified a bunch and then I'd let a bunch of people pick a country, which might get everyone a bit more invested.

At that point though it turns into a mish mash game and I would need to organize it a bunch.
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