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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:34 am

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Current Rules:
1. Starting with the first player, each player makes one suggestion to change to rules. There are 5 changes that can be made:
• Add a new rule
• Remove an existing rule
• Amend an existing rule
• Change an immutable rule to a mutable rule
• Change a mutable rule to an immutable rule
Then, all players vote on whether to pass the change or not. If a majority is reached, the change passes. If a majority is not reached, the change does not pass. Then, the current player rolls 1d6 and adds the number rolled to his score. Play then passes to the next player.
2. The first player with a score of at least 100 points wins.
3. Voting takes place in turn order.

4. Player order is the same as the order players sign up in. There is a 10-player maximum.
5. Alts or hydras are not allowed.
6. While voting is being achieved on one suggestion to change the rules, the next player can begin their turn.
7. Voting is done with the VOTE: tag.
8. Immutable rules cannot be amended, added, or removed.
9. All rules start as mutable when the game begins or when they are introduced.
10. Players may contact the mod privately to give their vote if they are unable to reply to the topic.
11. All current rules can be found on the wiki on Inferno390’s main page (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Inferno390) and on the first post of this thread.
12. Only mods of this game may update the rules due to any changes made during the game.
13. No discussion of anything not pertaining to the game is allowed in the thread.
14. A player may leave or rejoin the game at any time, provided they do not exceed the player limit.
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this color here. Do not post in this color.

16. Breaking of the rules will result in a loss of vote for one turn.

Current Voting:
Rule 17: Points can be used in an in-game economy upkept by a specific player (whom from this point will be known as the Banker) which will allow you to buy one of three perks once per day. The perk shop resets every 24 hours. The current Banker is: James Brafin (2 Yea, 3 Nea, 4 majority. Fellisan, Aronis, Shrek penalized no vote for this suggestion {voting out of turn}).
Rule 18a: Every turn, each person gains one point, regardless of whether their rule is passed or not. (4 Nea, 5 majority.)
Rule 18b: Any player may initiate a Call for Judgement (CFJ). When e does so, eir score decreases by 2. E may optionally bar the next player from judging the called CFJ. A CFJ is in the form of a one sentence statement, which should be able to be considered either true or false. When a CFJ is called, the next player in turn order from the most recent player to make a suggestion under rule 1, shall, within four days of the CFJ's calling, judge the CFJ, ruling its statement either true, false or undecidable. The judge should also set out reasons for their judgement. If the player who would ordinarily judge the CFJ was barred from judging it, the player after the barred player in turn order shall judge it instead. If the assigned judge does not judge a CFJ in the prescribed time period, the next player in turn order shall judge it within four days of the failure of the previous player to judge. (4 Yea, 1 Nay, 5 majority)
Amend Rule 10 to : "Players may contact the mod privately to give their vote if they are unable to reply to the topic." (Passed)


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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:35 am

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Signups Are still open! There is an opening for 1 other player...


The game has begun! James Brafin will go first.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:43 am

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Minor rule wording change to rule 12 before the game begins to prevent a rule quirk where that only I could actually add a change to the rules. :giggle:
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:07 am

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Rule 6 has been changed to: "While voting is being achieved on one suggestion to change the rules, the next player can begin their turn." This is in per se to Vijarada's suggestion, and will help keep the game from getting stagnant.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:29 am

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VOTE: Yea Rule 17

Charles510's turn to suggest.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:49 am

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In post 16, James Brafin wrote:So am I correct in assuming you roll once everyone votes on your resolution?
Unless that gets changed by a further suggestion, yes.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:37 am

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:eek: That seems broken. If this passes, I'm probably going to amend it so you can't just have whatever you want on the market.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:18 am

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In post 34, Charles510 wrote:
In post 0, Inferno390 wrote:3. Voting takes place in turn order.
Rule 3 is still in effect, right?
Felissan wrote:VOTE: Yea Rule 17
Aronis wrote:VOTE: No to Rule 17
Felissan wrote:VOTE: Hell Nay Rule 17
Shrek wrote:VOTE: VOTE: No to Rule 17
16. Breaking of the rules will result in a loss of vote for one turn.
Theses votes are out of order and against the rules, therefore these players lose their vote for one turn.

VOTE: No on 17

Suggest to repeal rule 3.
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Yes, that is correct. That means that the majority for James' suggestion is
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2 yea and 1 nay.

VOTE: Yea on Repeal Rule 3.

EDIT: The majority on James is 4, as there are only 6 legal votes for it.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:04 am

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Shrek to suggest.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:41 am

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In post 41, Shrek wrote:New Rule: Every turn, each person gains one point, regardless of whether their rule is passed or not
But doesn't each person gain t least 1 point anyway? They roll a 1d6 at the end of their turn.

VOTE: Nay on Rule 18
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Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 44, Shrek wrote:No, EVERYBODY gets at least one point on each turn. People who get to roll will have that one point added to that result.
But everybody gets to roll anyways, regardless of whether their suggestion passes or not.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:41 am

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Vij to suggest.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #12) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:07 am

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Yes, Charles to roll 1d6, and JDGA to suggest.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:10 am

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Oh, and VOTE: Nay 18b
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Post Post #76 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:06 pm

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VOTE: JGDA's suggestion
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Post Post #77 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:25 pm

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In post 71, Vijarada wrote:
In post 64, Aronis wrote:It's not you, this game was just horribly designed and I don't feel like sticking around and wasting my time trying to fix the awfulness
plz the awfulness is what makes this a challenge
In post 68, Inferno390 wrote:Oh, and VOTE: Nay 18b
presumably you made your ruleset from suber's original ruleset. which included exactly the rule i am suggesting. it's an important rule. we can't have you resolve all rule ambiguities forever.
I agree wit hyou on that. However, I've read your rule over twice, and I can't seem to understand what it's getting at. If it were clearer, I'd probably vote yea.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:59 pm

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Yeah, that would be swell. So you use the CFJ to resolve rules quirks?
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Post Post #82 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:05 am

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Yeah, if it was a bit clearer, I'd probably have voted yea.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:26 am

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Not_Mafia has joined the game. Fellissan to suggest.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:45 am

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Fellissan has been prodded. If he does not respond within 24 hours, the turn will pass to the next player.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:21 am

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Allomancer to suggest.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:26 am

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In post 94, James Brafin wrote:It's been almost two days since the last post.
@MOD, please prod.

On the bright side, we active players should start talking about what we'd like to do. I'd like to set up an economy, with shops and everything. That would be pretty cool. I'd also like to add a little bit of RPG flair (Nothing major, just a little). I thought that might be cool.
I think this game is dead. :cry: I'll go ahead and prod Allomancer though.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:31 am

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Sadly, the game has gone dead. Can a mod please lock the thread?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:31 pm

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Alright, how do I lock this thread?
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