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[Michael22Omega]

Oh vanilla cop is the same as neopolitian nvm

yeh

[Porkens]

vote: Tchill

Claim pal.

[Michael22Omega]

vote: Tchill

Claim pal.

What changed from the beginning when you didn't scum read him?

[Michael22Omega]

Dunker
Whymafia
Sub

And maybe taco

Seriously though can you explained what this meant

[Porkens]

I skimmed 80+ pages and that's what my scum radar told me.

Tchill was always vying for a spot in the scumteam.

[Boonskiies]

Neapolitan gets vanilla on VT only. Vanilla Cop gets not vanilla on Goon.

[Boonskiies]

Porkers
Tchill
Why
Reaverb/Acid
Sub

2 of these guys are town, and the rest are scum. One of the town are likely in Why/Tchill because that’s not S/S.

Which means 1 town in Sub/Reaverb/Porkers. Gonna do some iso reading.

[Boonskiies]

The fact that Derpy was targeting myself and Why, then went after Why pretty death tunneling Why makes me think that the team is either

Porkers/Tchill/one of Acid/Sub

Or

Why/Acid/Sub

[Mulch]

Vote Count 3.04

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Tchill13(2):WhyMafia, Porkens

[L-3]

WhyMafia(1):Tchill13

[L-4]

Michael22omega(1):Boonskiies

[L-4]

Porkens(1):Michael22omega

[L-4]

Not voting (4):Sergtacos, Boonskiies,sub4hire reaverb

Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-28 21:50:49)

[Michael22Omega]

Neapolitan gets vanilla on VT only. Vanilla Cop gets not vanilla on Goon.

Oh ok didn't realize there was a differnce
But ye I'm Neapolitan

[Michael22Omega]

Porkers
Tchill
Why
Reaverb/Acid
Sub

2 of these guys are town, and the rest are scum. One of the town are likely in Why/Tchill because that’s not S/S.

Which means 1 town in Sub/Reaverb/Porkers. Gonna do some iso reading.

Good list

[Porkens]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

[Michael22Omega]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really

[reaverb]

Vote Count 1.23

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Assemblerotws

(6):

acidphoenix (reaverb slot), Alisae

,

Toranaga (M22O slot),

UC Voyager

,

Sergtacos, Tchill13

[L-1]

Derpy Hooves(4):Boonskiies, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles, Assemblertows

[L-3]

Klazam (1):Sub4hire

[L-6]

Not voting (2): Derpy Hooves, Klazam

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Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-15 15:30:30)

This strongly implies M22O is scum, I could only see an alternative if tacos is scum, which M22O himself has claimed is not the case. (PS if you're not comfortable reading me as Town note the main reason to read M22O scum are the townies directly adjacent to him)

I also did not like the way Toranaga posted about things from forever ago in the thread, it's something I've seen a lot more from scum than Town.

Sorry if I seem disorganized, I haven't read the full thread yet. I'll read everything and post a coherent reads list Saturday.

Also when I did my votal analysis I editted a text document in place instead of writing out my chain of logic, which was dumb. I'll re-do it and post it Saturday or Sunday.

Can somebody give mod-gaming on how many prs there are? My first impression is that somebody must be lying in the claims this Day phase but I'm not familiar with mafiascum meta and have heard setups are more townsided here.

[Boonskiies]

Recently, they’ve been clearing games after a lot of town power is there based on towns not getting it together. I don’t necessarily agree with the amount of power towns should be getting.

Regardless, none of the PR’s are like...game changing, and Neapolitan isn’t too strong if there’s a lot of PR’s, as they only get vanilla on VT’s.

Also, the way Michael targeted Porkers the way he did screams town.

Otherwise, I’d agree with you. I was scum reading Michael pretty hard, but I genuinely feel like he felt he caught out Porkers, which by all means, he very well might have. Just matters if we believe porker forgot he wasn’t a VT.

He remembered that the action was used Night 1, though...

@Porkers - why did you choose to not use your action last night?

[Boonskiies]

Porkers very well could be a mafia commuter, also.

[Porkens]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really

K so why did you out me?

[Boonskiies]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really

K so why did you out me?

Because you had a direct contradiction to his action.

[reaverb]

The way Micheal22Omega / Porkens did the claim thing felt totally unnatural. I think it's almost impossible for M22O to be scum without Porkens, "Oh I forgot I wasn't VT" feels too convenient.

Anything rule out M22O / Porkens (r. Derpy) / Tchills as the team? That was one of only two teams left at the end of my most aggressive (has most assumptions) votal analysis. (other team replaced Porkens w/Boonskiies)

[Boonskiies]

How do I fit on that vocal analysis of yours?

[Boonskiies]

Votal.

[reaverb]

I'lll give actual details this weekend, because like I said I didn't actually record my thought process (which was dumb).

But my assumptions sheet has you marked as "Never scum with Porkens or taco"

[Porkens]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really

K so why did you out me?

Because you had a direct contradiction to his action.

He just said he is fine with a town PR fakeclaiming.

[Boonskiies]

Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?

I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really

K so why did you out me?

Because you had a direct contradiction to his action.

He just said he is fine with a town PR fakeclaiming.

He didn’t say he was fine with that, he said he didn’t care if Tchill claimed or not, basically.

You weren’t fake claiming. You slipped up. Whether your story is actually true or not, and you forgot, or if you are scum correcting yourself getting caught out, it was still some sort of slip up.

[Boonskiies]

Apparently, there’s a 3rd option and Reaverb thinks you guys planned that interaction. I don’t agree with that, and that makes me lean feel if you and Chill are scum, then Sub is the third, unless Reaverb is distancing, and then plans on tunneling Michael.