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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:43 pm

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Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:19 pm

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wavemode more like knavemode fucken gottem
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:31 pm

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Post Post #37 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:11 am

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What are you, some sort of evil baby bunny hellspawn?
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Post Post #38 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:17 am

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Dunk and moz I could see but how do you have a townread on carca and fykus?
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Post Post #45 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:27 am

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It is pretty LAMIST
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Post Post #46 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:28 am

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In post 11, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: UnaBombaH
Because his response (Post) feels out of line for me
Why
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Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:34 am

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Tfw inned a game where I only knew vedith (maybe carca a little) and he replaces out first thing <_<
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Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:41 am

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VOTE: not known 15
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Post Post #52 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:48 am

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Did you consider he might be joking

How do most of the page 1 votes come across to you?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:25 am

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My point was that most of the votes aren't serious, but reading them all as serious shows you're consistent in interpretation at least.

Actually okay thoughts on acid vote and dunkerdoodles
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Post Post #55 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:31 am

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UNVOTE: not known 15

Get the impression this response is writing down what he already thought (genuine) instead of just making up stuff on the spot for defense.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:33 am

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What's wrong with the cat?
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Post Post #180 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:41 am

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Re: NK15 is definitely a vote I could understand.

I guess scum motivation is there for hopping on boonskiies wagon in making it look like a joke?
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Post Post #181 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:47 am

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VOTE: unibomber

Let's see where this goes.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:20 am

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But you're not sheeping either.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:46 pm

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Okay was going to wait and see on this more but fuck it

VOTE: Mulch

Like 99% sure he's trying to hard buddy everyone he's played with before with bullshit meta reads and pushing on the rest. I don't think these reads are real in depth and especially carca seems out of line.
Don't see the fascination with multiball d1 coming from town either tbh.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:53 pm

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In post 222, Mulch wrote:Lol or anyone saying "I'm not scummy". Pretty typical town Dunker
Bullshit buddying
In post 157, Mulch wrote:Boon ur obvious when ur scum
Bullshit buddying
In post 152, Mulch wrote:Boon let's not focus on semantics. Also I would feel so bad lynching unah cause they are so fun to play with
Bullshit buddying
In post 142, Mulch wrote:I sense a town win. I have too many townreads
Bullshit
In post 85, Mulch wrote:
In post 84, MeowMix wrote:hello friends

I see by user: Mulch's posting that we're already off to a great start
What do you mean?



Paranoia!Mulch is thinking this is either a multiball who is signalling to me because they think I signalled to them it's multiball, or a traitor trying to plant a false signal.
Bullshit moon logic
In post 62, Mulch wrote:Many a town have been led to destruction by underestimatinh newb scum.

Moz, mulch, carca townbloc rn
Bullshit carca read and putting self in townbloc (Moz read is okay though).

This guy is full of shit and IDK why he's not getting called on it
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Post Post #235 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:02 pm

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I know as scum I try to work around people I know and generally unofficially bloc (people who know each other give each other benefit of the doubt) while keeping the rest as lynches. This is kind of blatant though and I don't think he's been asking questions/really sorting these people before putting them there.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:13 pm

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But are peeps gonna sheep me or is mulch popularity going to save him versus this nobody? :neutral:
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Post Post #238 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:31 pm

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That said it's likely if mulch is scum for one or two of his townreads to be so as well (if not there's not so much point) but in that case it's likely to be of the relatively silent townreads/the lower-interaction ones unless he went next level and purposely tried to look like he was pocketing a buddy on purpose for a sick association, though that's PROBABLY going too deep in the rabbit hole atm.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:32 pm

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In post 39, Mulch wrote:
In post 38, Raskolnikov wrote:Dunk and moz I could see but how do you have a townread on carca and fykus?
Ive played with them a lot, basically. I have decent meta reads on them. Unfortunately they are hard to explain, it’s more of a general vibe, so you gotta trust me on it. Although, my weakest read might be Fykus. He’s capable of imitating his town meta I believe
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Post Post #244 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:45 pm

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In post 239, Mulch wrote:Also, if by "buddy" you mean act friendly, then yes I buddy as both allignments. Ask anyone.
So basically your response is meta.
Finally, I wanna know why you think town aren't interested in talking about multiball, and more importantly why you think it's bad for town to include themselves in town blocs.
Multiball is generally more of a scum concern if it hasn't been confirmed and bringing it up d1 suggests extra information that points to it. Not impossible but not the crux of my vote either.

Putting oneself as town is admittedly common and probably just something that annoys me, but pushing it that early and repeatedly it shows a real concern over how you're getting read and appearance.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:59 pm

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I probably should meta this for due diligence but I'm getting a scumgloating vibe here.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:48 pm

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Okay I've looked at some mulch games of both align. The LAMIST comes a lot from scum especially from replacing in as scum but also from town so I guess that's NAI.

See way more of an even mix of scumreads and townreads from town mulch vs here but same for scum mulch... though logically it's probably useless as an indicator anyways because blatant hard buddying likely wouldn't be a strategy feasible to repeat across scumgames. Still feel like the reads here are intended to pocket though.

But it's true that it's not definitive that naked meta reads can't come from town.
Mulch you must explain your reads now, the ones you haven't already.
Even if something is a meta read you can go into detail, and even if I don't have that meta the person themselves can probably judge it unless they lie.
Dunkerdoodles (somehow feel like you aren't taking dunkerdoodles seriously from game outset)
Mozarims
Acid
Carca (she posted more since then)
Fykus (this read changed)

There are expressed meta reads on all of these that I can't satisfyingly follow (either nothing given OR I don't understand what was there).

Also one thing I've noticed is town mulch tends to partner hunt or at least call partners (though doesn't like preflips) which I haven't seen any of this game.

Do potentially have some tells now that may become relevant in the future though and hopefully be actually definitive.
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Post Post #494 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:54 pm

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Hmm, mulch did you read all of my post before you responded?
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Post Post #499 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:58 pm

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I think probably safe at this point to anti-preflip mulch and boonskiies.
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Post Post #512 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:32 pm

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WRT to meowmix I completely understand his NK scumread (would generally expect that interpretation reading that NK vote) as said earlier and interest in the slot is consistent with asking him a question later.

Scumread on boonskiies for too much self meta and when he posted a lot of self referential stuff I could follow too. The only thing is why mulch is opportunistic when PK and massive votes were pretty similar. Think this slot is more likely town than not though and is potentially siteflaking anyways.

Get the impression the wagons generally POE powered and kind of taking issue with the style (lowercase/lazy posting) apart from texcat starting it off with the TBH tell which is kind of lol.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:41 pm

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So one thing I don't like is how fkyus and boonskiies were calling unabombah scum earlier but since then haven't really followed it up.

That said I definitely scumread him too and I'm wondering if this was just town lazyness or forgetfulness vs a kind of distancing with no intention of being a read.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:48 pm

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In post 513, Mulch wrote:
In post 512, Raskolnikov wrote:I completely understand his NK scumread (would generally expect that interpretation reading that NK vote
Can you go into more detail on this?
It was and it does definitely look like grasping, the only thing is you have to try to consider scum vs newbtown grasping at straws to start a game and do follow up but wouldn't expect that from most people
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Post Post #519 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:50 pm

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In post 501, Mulch wrote:
In post 499, Raskolnikov wrote:I think probably safe at this point to anti-preflip mulch and boonskiies.
Nope we could be town town or town scum
My anti preflip is logically only ruling out S-S, if you're town it wouldn't somehow make boonskiies scum that doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:00 pm

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VOTE: Unabomba

Don't see the point of most of his posts, seems to be playing reactively and kinda shading a few people at various times but not scumhunting them.

Not feeling mulch wagon anymore.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:02 pm

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Mmm ninja'd

Need VC now.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #33) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:09 pm

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In post 525, Mulch wrote:What about meow :(
Probably getting replaced along with PK and Xna tbh.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:24 pm

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In post 535, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 514, Raskolnikov wrote:So one thing I don't like is how fkyus and boonskiies were calling unabombah scum earlier but since then haven't really followed it up.

That said I definitely scumread him too and I'm wondering if this was just town lazyness or forgetfulness vs a kind of distancing with no intention of being a read.
That first paragraph is kinda blah.
You low key sound like you're contradicting yourself and discrediting others.
Wait what's the contradiction? You can agree with a read but wonder why it's not being followed up on.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:27 pm

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Though fykus voted right after and boon I think I can get now anyways.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:39 pm

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@Wavemode, Massive
want a stance from you on the unabombah and meowmix wagons and justification for kamina votes.

If either was a reaction test then it's probably not going to do anything anymore and I think potentially kamina isn't coming back either.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:41 pm

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@mod
have you sent out any prods yet?
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Post Post #631 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:08 am

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Acid might be scum, can't really see rationale behind his reads and not really getting any towntells there. Feels weak.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #39) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:11 am

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In post 619, XnadrojX wrote:OK I'm lazy to quote up 25 pages of Boonskiies doing weird shit and people responding with weird shit and the amount of self-meta and NAI shit flying about is confusing me so I just did a quick skim and came up with a few preliminary reads.

Acid and Mulch is likely town here, even if I don't agree with most of what Mulch said. Raskol town too probs.

Boonskiies has just been playing according to how he plays basically every game, I don't want to read him for now.

I think Una and Dunker are scum, their posts seem to be less "hey look, there's scum" and more "Hey [insert player here], I think you're right"

VOTE: Dunker

Making a more thorough post when I actually get to analysing the important things. If anyone can tell me where the main highlights are please tell me because when I said skimming I literally meants glossing over anything remotely insignificant.
This is okay but idk why start a new wagon on dunker instead of joining unabombah unless that's a lot stronger scumread?
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Post Post #633 (isolation #40) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:17 am

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Actually I like dunker, he's focusing attention on the game center and playing in a way that might rub the wrong way people who townread him (don't think it could be distancing).
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Post Post #708 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:17 am

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later today
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Post Post #772 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:54 pm

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Gonna be vla and phoneposting for about a week will try to be around near deadline though

Of everything I actually still want unabomah Lynch lol but I guess it's not happening
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Post Post #773 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:21 am

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Mulch may easily be scum IMO, but I feel if he does turn out town he's too valuable to Lynch day one, if that makes sense.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:32 am

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If one believes scum are in lurkers, which people have pushed, then I would first think of kamina, assemble, meowmix, pisskop and carcalilly. Massive isn't really the first name that comes to mind, so I don't follow this narrative for his push.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:47 am

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actually fuck it
VOTE: Mulch
If I'm wrong I'm sorry.

Would prefer unabomah
Could also wagon acidphoenix or maybe pisskop but looks like 0 interest there
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Post Post #952 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:19 pm

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don't have much time to read atm
what should I vote to avoid no lynch?
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:20 am

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VOTE: Xna

IDK if it makes any diff now tho
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #48) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:37 am

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Err sorry for holding things up atm. Result.

Getting home later than I would like but by Wed night for sure, don't end the day by then either (only just skimmed but idk why moz is almost lynched)
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:00 pm

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So from what I've read, why doesn't boon out the targets and we can lynch 1 and worst case scenario if we hit town then vig shoot the other?
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:08 pm

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How does the result / no result mass have anything to do with boon result though

I guess if 2 people claimed no result you could then assume at least one of them is town via scum roleblock? Doesn't seem worth outing over though. Outing a pr for the sake of clearing them seems like a pretty shit deal
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:15 pm

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VOTE: acidphoenix
Scum ISO here, hopefully killer as well

Seems stupid doing anything and pretending its going to happen when we're 100% lynching in the results though, literally no point of wagoning anyone if its not one of the 2

maybe if lucky this is the scum sent
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Post Post #1324 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:20 pm

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can maybe deduce with brilliant powers of deduction that boonskiies did not see one of mulch or moz visit dunker because then he would and/or should have just claimed a track on them given dunker scumreads on em instead of risk outing a million prs
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:23 pm

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NVM he instavoted moz on day start
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:48 pm

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Post Post #1330 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:04 pm

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Yeah I know, going to try to hold off judgement until he explains it. I know you strong meta townread him and you're town via claim
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:09 pm

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errr unless you're talking about something else
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:17 pm

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Meh this is lame. usually this part of the game I'd know some people and engage with them to get a feel but everyones a stranger and its like my newbie games again
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:35 pm

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Yeah the fact I had to just look that up says something though
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:51 pm

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That awk moment when you ISO mods to start VCA because you hate people but remember scum was a vig

Annoyingly mulch prob town after all via combined mulch-james iso, even ignoring mulch scum strength potential via experience the james is new and he would prob be more flat on his end of the exchange if S-S
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:55 pm

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Who's Jordan?
I don't want to spend any more time trying to figure this one out
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Post Post #1344 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:14 am

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Una actually kinda towntelling now
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:32 am

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Btw acid's scum because when I iso'd to see why he voted moz he scumread him most of the game but the most I got for why is that he implied moz had bad reads
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:10 am

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I mean maybe I could assume today is because dunker kill tho why were you scumreading her yesterday
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:23 am

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Actually you're here so just say it maybe

if you are town it would be in you interest to be clear anyways so people knew what you were talking about

I want to know stuff about you
You should want people to know your reads if you believe in them so they have game impact
You should also maybe want to get info from me to sort me if you arent scum

discussion is a win-win-win if you're town so...
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:23 am

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@acid
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:20 pm

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Post Post #1373 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:30 pm

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everyones replacing into the other replacement requests but ignoring the one for this game
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #68) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:50 pm

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I think moz is powertown how do you SR her
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #69) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:20 pm

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like every second post she's going deep into anslydis and its not fake gamesolvy. Idk the only minor thing I could even see is maybe a little lamisty apart or maybe dunker kill

yesterday would been better cuz now I'm on phoneposting don't have my notes and might've had a bit
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #70) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:23 pm

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Idk where you get reads from
Are they gut or something? tone? like how does it work
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #71) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:39 pm

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meh gut and "my reads are weak because I'm not that invested" are like plausible answers but aren't really satisfying
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:43 pm

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Wait in one of your response posts you like implied I missed something really obvious or something what was that about
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Post Post #1388 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:51 pm

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1346 like implies I missed something big or was like an idiot for saying that
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:02 pm

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In post 1389, Fykus wrote:ok so like:

moz
boon
mulch

are locktown basically.
werent you were just voting moz tho?
You think moz is vig then?
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #75) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:35 pm

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UNVOTE:
In post 1390, Fykus wrote:
boon, when are you gonna give us the results of your watching? Discussion has basically stalled
and it seems everyone is just sitting here waiting for you to tell us?
Also did carca ever verify whether she was actually blocked or didnt understand the whole "vt say you get a result thing"?
Also boon what made you target dunk last night?
this 1000%
Imo even if only ones posted we cna make a POE judgment semi reliably but it doesn't mean you have to decide any sooner either, you can have the same length day either way but in the later more time is talking about the good shit
If it was later on game you'd want both to put results so you don't miss d1 results unless both are lurkers
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:36 pm

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but very unlikely
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #77) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:08 pm

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Moz why do you scumread me?
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #78) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:26 pm

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In post 1428, mozamis wrote: BOON IF WE LYNCH PISSKOP YOU COULD DIE OVERNIGHT WITHOUT GIVING US THE INFO.
Screw it, maybe he iss cum gambitting. Fuck him, tired of his anti-town bullshit to be frank.

VOTE: pisskop
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #79) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:09 am

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VOTE: pisskop
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:33 am

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Well shit
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #81) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:40 am

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VOTE: Mulch
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #82) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:51 am

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I am a
one shot deflector.

I targeted myself and mulch last night.

Boonskiies results implies he targeted me last night and therefore
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In post 1401, Boonskiies wrote:Mulchy, mulchy, he’s so fun, he’s so fun, he was number 1!
Rask, rask, aloof and true, he’s so true, he’s number 2.
Assemblerot, so young and free, so free...he’s number 3.
Mozamis, you want some more, that’s okay, you’ll be number 4.
Wavemode, shmavemode, you’re still alive, you can be number 5.
If you take the numbers as him claiming night targets.
However by this interpretation he targeted mulch n1.

I believe
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I want everyone to vote up
mulch
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #83) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:56 am

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Also explains the not known 15 nightkill as well as the earlier dunkerdoodles one really well.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #84) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:00 am

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Mulch is so scum.
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #85) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:02 am

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If there was no redirection of any kind then hiders wouldn't exist in normal games. This is more equivalent to that scenario than to bus drivers which are explicitly non normal for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #86) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:08 am

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This narrative is coming from ignorance.

Any normal game can have
one
non-normal role within it. I know this is true from experience but I'll have to find the source on it.
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #87) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:31 am

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Alright I found it.

Look up greylisted roles. I didn't expect to be challenged on my literal role being allowed in guidelines but here we go.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #88) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:47 am

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I forgot this was a large. Mini greylist limit is 1 vs large of 2.

If I'm wrong you can vig me. I'm not wrong.
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #89) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:00 am

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There are 3 deaths. One presumably by scum, one presumably by vig, and another. Unless there is an SK along with vig to make 3 killing roles or factions, it is more likely boonskiies died because of his weak modifier. Maybe there are 3 killing things and one was roleblocked yesterday, but that seems harsh on balance.
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #90) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:07 am

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we have to lynch in mulch and me and resolve this 1v1.
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #91) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:11 am

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My faith is in the vig now I guess.
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #92) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:20 am

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Alternate explanations

3 roleblockers in the game, no one claiming roleblock and they all hit VTs. Didn't hit vig or scum killer, evidently. Everyone claimed result.
Boonskiies as SOFTED PR investigative did not eat the scum roleblock n1.
Both nightkills done just unorthodox/badly and not mulch indicative.
IIRC mulch was asking about multiball really early d1 idk a town reason why he'd do that I guess random curiosity.
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #93) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:27 am

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Boon softed an investigative d1 and scum had roleblocker. Boon's role gives no "result/no result" feedback wrt roleblocks.
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #94) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:38 am

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@mod
pisskop was replaced by loudmouthlee and lynched yesterday.

We only have 11 left now not 12
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #95) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:39 am

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In post 1537, wavemode wrote:Since when does roleblocker give feedback
It doesn't which is why boon would have no idea if he was roleblocked or not when we did the semi massclaim
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #96) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:42 am

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Probably mulch with kamina tbh. Was wandering to pisskop before remembering he died heh
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #97) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:48 am

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No reason to believe any kills were roleblocked with how many deaths we get.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #98) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:54 am

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If I threw out all the role/night action speculation I would probably still lynch mulch here.
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #99) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:30 am

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Yeah I guess I would leave boonskiies alive to invest me and hope he was weak or something which would kill him. That makes perfect sense.
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #100) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:33 am

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In post 1550, UnaBombaH wrote:Whether Boon was NK'd or died because he was weak doesn't matter
Is this really even a thing
If boonskiies was nk'd, and another death is from vig, what caused the third death?
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #101) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:40 am

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If there were only 2 deaths, one would know for a fact that scum killed boon, meaning he died regardless of his target, meaning one would get no information from his target selection and his weak modifier.
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #102) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:31 am

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Boon claimed ascetic. Even if he wasn't ascetic, that would mean no protection would be on him... because he claimed ascetic.
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #103) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:47 am

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This gambit has gone too far though.

I am VT. However with me knowing myself as town the only other reasonable interpretation of boonskiies is he chose mulch.
That along with simple deduction of nks and reads on the gamestate make it a 95% chance of being correct and a reliable move. If all went well I would be nightkilled by scum after the lynch and it would never come up.

The problem with admitting this is that now, because I said this one thing, after I flip "rask faked a guilty therefore he is dumb/unreliable and his actual read and points are wrong". NO. I do not want mulch given a free pass after I flip based on this logic. He's been nommed several times for a scummy based on his mafia play. A few minutes in the game when people were scumhunting he was thinking of multiball. If nothing else I really don't want this one to slip through the cracks... It's pretty much standard to straight up ignore dead reads and especially discredit them and throw them out if they did something "iffy" but that would be a really shit move here.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #104) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:06 am

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Semi hinted at this earlier
In post 1519, Raskolnikov wrote:If I'm wrong you can vig me. I'm not wrong.
Wrong implying reads and not a 100% mechanical thing.
In post 1546, Raskolnikov wrote:If I threw out all the role/night action speculation I would probably still lynch mulch here.
This.
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #105) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:11 am

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I would feel more comfortable with this if we do a thing first

Will you look back at my ISO when I flip town and NOT just ignore completely everything I said/discredit me being right on scum/READS because of a gambit

yes/no

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Post Post #1592 (isolation #106) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:38 am

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That's hammer anyways but just in case
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Post Post #1593 (isolation #107) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:40 am

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My dude

Player we talked about earlier in Post 47 of thingo as probable vig is probably vig IMO.
Player who's name is above that I believe is probably vt and should not be killed IMO either
It was a blast :D

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Post Post #1594 (isolation #108) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:42 am

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Now, as for town, be a good sport and try not to abuse too much the fact that thread will probably stay unlocked for who knows how long after hammer, hmm? :lol:
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:50 am

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Also your daily reminder that there's only 11 alive not 12. PK was replaced by loudmouthlee and then lynched and hammer should've technically been at 6 votes today not 7 as a result :shifty:
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