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Boonskiies · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:31 am

Hardclaiming 1-shot BP Serial Killer. Thoughts?

Boonskiies · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:42 am

viewtopic.php?p=9028647#p9028647

Gonna put this right here for why I never trust miller claims ever anymore.

But I dont believe Why would pull that stunt.

Boonskiies · Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:46 am

In post 13, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: UC
Sheep this wagon Boon and we can be a town block

You actually a miller?

I’m a SK being invited to a town block? Aight. Leash me.

VOTE: UC

Boonskiies · Post Post #21 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:11 am

You guys know it’s confirmed 10-3 in the rules, right?

Boonskiies · Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:14 am

In post 22, Apple Jack wrote:Good thing I’m taking day one off. Having to decide which person to death tunnel would be difficult at this point

Not really. Someone would just explain how hard of a reaction test player I am, and point out Why’s back and forth, then miller claim.

Boonskiies · Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:15 am

In post 23, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 21, Boonskiies wrote:You guys know it’s confirmed 10-3 in the rules, right?
Who reads the rules?

I do to catch scum. Now I just gotta figure out which of Why/Assemble are scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #28 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:17 am

It’s probably Assemble, but I prematurely jumped on it, so I could be wrong. I’ll catch him out sooner or later.

I can’t see WhyMafia fake claiming miller, unless he ends up stating he was kidding about it, I think he’s probably town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #37 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:20 am

In post 27, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 24, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 22, Apple Jack wrote:Good thing I’m taking day one off. Having to decide which person to death tunnel would be difficult at this point
Not really. Someone would just explain how hard of a reaction test player I am, and point out Why’s back and forth, then miller claim.
But lying is not acceptable to me and neither are Miller claims.

If you are town you don’t lie and if you’re Miller play like town so you won’t ever be investigated

Sure. I wouldn’t say I’m lying, though. I’m reaction testing. I generally always give my reasons for when I do things like that.

Anyone who knows me disagree with that?

Boonskiies · Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:21 am

In post 31, WhyMafia wrote:The town!WM you've known Boon has learned to fake claim! MWAHAHAHHAHA

LOL, our mafiascum group has become so terrible, outside players must hate us.

But like, we get why all of us would be doing that, don’t we?

Boonskiies · Post Post #43 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:22 am

In post 39, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 35, WhyMafia wrote:NO YOU WERENT SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO RVS
out of rvs isnt something you can force. you gotta just... let it happen lol.

We are out of RVS. I’m active right now, so I’m going to analyze.

VOTE: Assemble

Show me your town.

Was that vote on me RVS or serious?

Boonskiies · Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:23 am

In post 41, WhyMafia wrote:I have an awkward town read on Derpy. Something about his honesty rubs be the right way. Very well could be scum though

I generally feel the same way. I’m comfortable town reading him right now, but if he ends up getting like I did in your game, I’d say he’s probably scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #61 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:26 am

In post 45, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 37, Boonskiies wrote:Sure. I wouldn’t say I’m lying, though.
You told a lie. That’s lying. You can sugar coat it however you want but in the end it’s still a lie. Reaction tests are usually bad idea anyway cause nobody knows how to properly gauge reactions.

Eh, players here can vouch for me, that TownBoon late game is scary. My reaction tests early help me get to that point.

I usually am able to show that I’m town despite that. Not everyone likes it, but it’s undeniable I get results.

Boonskiies · Post Post #69 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:28 am

In post 67, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 62, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 55, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 47, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey guys

What’s shaking?
Assemble has claimed that you're a neighbor with him. True/False?
I skimmed my role PM so I don’t know.
VOTE: lil uzi

I actually don’t see any reason as scum for him to say that.

Boonskiies · Post Post #72 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:32 am

In post 71, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah all I remember was seeing green and groaning loudly as I quickly typed confirmed

I’ll probably just sheep Alisae if they’re town.

Ah, man...you’re going to be going against me then. I’m likely to get in a 1v1 with Alisae, regardless of her alignment.

Boonskiies · Post Post #73 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:41 am

I’m town reading everyone that’s posted so far besides Assemble and UC.

I’m not necessarily scum reading Assemble, but I want to give him that Third Degree Boon. Tchill has felt the wrath of that Third Degree Boon.

UC could be scum fucking around or town fucking around. I’ll look more into it when agendas start getting pushed.

Boonskiies · Post Post #74 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:41 am

I can explain all my town reads, if you guys want, but I really don’t feel like it.

Boonskiies · Post Post #79 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:44 am

In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.

He’s in fuckaround mode, which is fine for now, but this is the fastest rvs has ended in a while for me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #83 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:47 am

In post 82, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nothing has happened except Robb being Robb.

Assuming you meant Boon.

Boonskiies · Post Post #85 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:49 am

In post 81, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 79, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.
He’s in fuckaround mode, which is fine for now, but this is the fastest rvs has ended in a while for me.
I think he’s being serious but failing at fitting in or trying to come off or look a certain way.

Fair enough. To be fair, a lot of us in this game play with each other a lot, and know each other pretty well. I think he’s fine. Looking forward to getting to know UC this game. A few players here I don’t know too well.

Boonskiies · Post Post #86 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:50 am

In post 84, Assemblerotws wrote:
In post 43, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 39, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 35, WhyMafia wrote:NO YOU WERENT SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO RVS
out of rvs isnt something you can force. you gotta just... let it happen lol.
We are out of RVS. I’m active right now, so I’m going to analyze.

VOTE: Assemble

Show me your town.

Was that vote on me RVS or serious?
As serious as I read your SK claim as being.
Which is to say, not at all.
UNVOTE:

I don’t know if this leads to scum Assemble thinking that going after me is a bad idea or if this is town Assemble actually stating it was RVS.

Hell, it could be town Assemble seriously voting, but now changed his mind in fear of thinking going after me could be a bad idea.

Boonskiies · Post Post #88 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:51 am

Who is Robb?

Boonskiies · Post Post #89 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:52 am

@Assemble - does anyone ping you so far?

Boonskiies · Post Post #91 (isolation #22) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:52 am

In post 62, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 55, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 47, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey guys

What’s shaking?
Assemble has claimed that you're a neighbor with him. True/False?
I skimmed my role PM so I don’t know.

ScumLUV isn’t sloppy, and this is sloppy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #92 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:53 am

Is Derpy Robb?

Boonskiies · Post Post #96 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:55 am

In post 94, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 92, Boonskiies wrote:Is Derpy Robb?
Yep.

Find it a little hard to believe you didn’t know.

We don’t play with each other too much. He’s Jake from State Farm too, right?

Yeah, my first newbie game on site, I fake guiltied him as town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #98 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:56 am

In post 95, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 59, WhyMafia wrote:Like how did it hurt town
He deceived us. It makes him untrustworthy. If he’s actually town that makes it harder for me cause I can no longer trust him.

It was the first post. It was obviously fake. Rules stated 10-3. Also, why fake claimed miller.

Boonskiies · Post Post #103 (isolation #26) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:00 am

In post 101, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 98, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 95, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 59, WhyMafia wrote:Like how did it hurt town
He deceived us. It makes him untrustworthy. If he’s actually town that makes it harder for me cause I can no longer trust him.
It was the first post. It was obviously fake. Rules stated 10-3. Also, why fake claimed miller.
And I can’t trust him either. Hence why I said I’m glad I’m taking day 1 off cause idk how I’d decide which one of you two I’d death tunnel.

Fair enough.

Crappy part is, you’re actually annoyed that you are town reading us both.

Boonskiies · Post Post #106 (isolation #27) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:03 am

In post 104, Apple Jack wrote:I’m not town reading either of you actually. Right now I scum read you both.

Of course you are.

Boonskiies · Post Post #107 (isolation #28) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:03 am

In post 105, UC Voyager wrote:i honestly think Boon's SK claim was fake, but a good idea to not look like a SK.....

he can be a Boon Babe.

Boonskiies · Post Post #109 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:06 am

In post 108, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.
how so????i mean? i am new to the site, but why do you not like me???

I think he was referring to it in a scummy way not a personal way.

Boonskiies · Post Post #113 (isolation #30) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:10 am

LUV is town because he’s not sloppy as scum.

Why is town because I’m tone reading him as town, and I think as mafia he’d be pushing me here.

Tchill is town because he’s going through a play evaluation and his “players all have different playstyles” or whatever he said I don’t feel he would make as scum.

UC is town because he’s a Boon Babe now that no one should ever lynch.

Yeah.

Boonskiies · Post Post #114 (isolation #31) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:13 am

In post 112, Assemblerotws wrote:
In post 89, Boonskiies wrote:@Assemble - does anyone ping you so far?
Uzi claiming he didn't read his role PM and doesn't know whether or not we're neighbors. I wish I was actually a Neighbor, but alas.

Assemble is town because it looks like he’s trying to actively help me read him because he knows I’ll hard protect him if I town read him. Could say he could be doing that as scum to try and pocket me, but nah, I can’t see him trying to pocket me.

VOTE: Derpy

I’ll make it easy for you. Go me over Why.

Boonskiies · Post Post #115 (isolation #32) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:15 am

He took me claiming SK in the first post, and I confirmed it not to be true first page because the rules state it, and is using it to show trajectory yet actively staying out of it. I feel he wants us to mislynch somewhere and then “takeover” and mislynch myself or Why.

Boonskiies · Post Post #116 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:16 am

The other scum haven’t posted yet probably.

Boonskiies · Post Post #118 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:19 am

In post 117, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Thing is, I can see Robb doing that as either alignment.

Sure, but I town read everyone else who’s posted now. I don’t believe that there hasn’t been a single scum to not post, and you said either alignment, which means he isn’t townie nor scummy, which by comparison, is inherently scummy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #119 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:22 am

I’m waiting to see how he reacts.

I put him in a position where he can death tunnel me for the sake of death tunneling me, or death tunneling me because he actually scum reads me, which I don’t believe he does. He states he does, sure, but his words haven’t been saying that. I “deceived” him. He said. With a page 1 fuckaround claim. That’s a fake reason to scum read someone if scum, and a bad personal reason if town. I’m waiting to see which it is.

Boonskiies · Post Post #120 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:23 am

He also is stating he scum reads both WhyMafia and myself, which also ricks my rockers.

Boonskiies · Post Post #123 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:25 am

Actually, there’s some players this game that have yet to post that if are partners with Derpy, I may be able to figure that out.

@Dunker/Serg - I’d like your thoughts on Tchill, please.

Boonskiies · Post Post #124 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:26 am

In post 113, Boonskiies wrote:LUV is town because he’s not sloppy as scum.

Why is town because I’m tone reading him as town, and I think as mafia he’d be pushing me here.

Tchill is town because he’s going through a play evaluation and his “players all have different playstyles” or whatever he said I don’t feel he would make as scum.

UC is town because he’s a Boon Babe now that no one should ever lynch.

Yeah.

@Acid - with UC, iso him and you’ll get what I mean.

Boonskiies · Post Post #128 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:33 am

In post 127, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 115, Boonskiies wrote:He took me claiming SK in the first post, and I confirmed it not to be true first page because the rules state it, and is using it to show trajectory yet actively staying out of it. I feel he wants us to mislynch somewhere and then “takeover” and mislynch myself or Why.
Nah. I’m going to wait for flips and actual analyze shit. If the rest of town doesn’t want to lynch you, I’m not going to waste my time trying to convince people to. It almost never works so I’m trying something different

“Not going to try to waste time trying to convince people to”

Isn’t that exactly what you’re supposed to do?

Boonskiies · Post Post #133 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:50 am

In post 131, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 116, Boonskiies wrote:The other scum haven’t posted yet probably.
perspective slip?

VOTE: Boon

This would lean me town not scum if this was a perspective slip. If I were scum perspective slipping there, there wouldn’t be the word probably there.

But I was referring to Derpy being scum, and the other scum probably not have posted, since I town read everyone else.

Boonskiies · Post Post #134 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 am

But yeah, tacos is scummy as hell after that.

Boonskiies · Post Post #136 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 am

Thoughts on Derpy having Serg do that to get pressure off of him?

Boonskiies · Post Post #137 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:52 am

In post 135, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 132, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: tacos
whymafia defending boon i see. we caught 2 scums in less than a day!

I mean, it’s you and Derpy. You just became obvious scum when you faked and misrepped my post in favor of Derpy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #141 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:53 am

In post 138, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 135, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 132, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: tacos
whymafia defending boon i see. we caught 2 scums in less than a day!
this seems fake af

He’s trying to take pressure off of Derpy.

Boonskiies · Post Post #145 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:55 am

Derpy probably told his buddies to target you and I. And Serg doesn’t actually have reasons for it, so he’s shit posting. He always posts like that, but yeah.

Boonskiies · Post Post #146 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:55 am

He’s pushing a scum agenda further. Derpy probably didn’t mean for it to happen like this, but whatever.

Boonskiies · Post Post #148 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:57 am

In post 115, Boonskiies wrote:He took me claiming SK in the first post, and I confirmed it not to be true first page because the rules state it, and is using it to show trajectory yet actively staying out of it. I feel he wants us to mislynch somewhere and then “takeover” and mislynch myself or Why.

In post 116, Boonskiies wrote:The other scum haven’t posted yet probably.

Serg tacos purposely left out the post that this post was in reference to as well. He’s literally pushing nothing and just making noise so it gets off of Derp.

Boonskiies · Post Post #150 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:58 am

In post 147, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 146, Boonskiies wrote:He’s pushing a scum agenda further. Derpy probably didn’t mean for it to happen like this, but whatever.
Ew. i dont this coming from you boon. i was reaction testing and uhhh you know my style so hearing this from you when you were my mod after two games when i did the exact same thing? yeah, this is scum.

In what part is that at all similar to what you did before? You flat out pushed the same exact two derpy has been holding back from pushing.

Boonskiies · Post Post #154 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:01 am

In post 151, Sergtacos wrote:Not understanding you?

You are hardcore pushing exactly what Derpy, my main scum read, was trying to have happen yet didn’t go through with it. Why would I at all see that as town?

Boonskiies · Post Post #156 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:03 am

And how is this different from the one game we’ve played together. We were both town there. Compare how I acted towards Tchill there to here.

Boonskiies · Post Post #160 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:07 am

In post 159, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t even know what’s going on right now.

Whether Serg is town or scum, he’s basically relieving pressure off of Derpy. He doesn’t seem to get that, though, and is completely ignoring any Derpy comments.

Boonskiies · Post Post #162 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:08 am

In post 161, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 160, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 159, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t even know what’s going on right now.
Whether Serg is town or scum, he’s basically relieving pressure off of Derpy. He doesn’t seem to get that, though, and is completely ignoring any Derpy comments.
You will unvote me.

I never voted you...

Boonskiies · Post Post #165 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:10 am

In post 163, Sergtacos wrote:Very true. So you think im scummy, why not vote for me?

Why would I vote you over Derpy, who I think is scummier than you, and reasons why I think you are scummy are directly linked to him?

Boonskiies · Post Post #166 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:11 am

In post 164, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t think there has been any real or serious pressure on Robb and I think Serg is just fucking around.

My pressure on Robb is serious.

Boonskiies · Post Post #168 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:12 am

LUV has been protecting Robb sort of, but he’s not sloppy as scum, and I think that’s be pretty sloppy if he was scum with Derpy posting the way he is.

Boonskiies · Post Post #169 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:12 am

In post 167, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 164, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t think there has been any real or serious pressure on Robb and I think Serg is just fucking around.
lock town

Yes. I stated LUV was town multiple times already.

Boonskiies · Post Post #171 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:14 am

In post 170, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:One guy pushing isn’t real pressure. Two or three maybe, but not just one person.

Acid is also on him.

Boonskiies · Post Post #174 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:15 am

In post 170, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:One guy pushing isn’t real pressure. Two or three maybe, but not just one person.

If anything, that leans towards more scum. When I’m scum, I like to discredit before any pressure can get going, because then people start speaking like you are.

And then it comes off as TvT.

Boonskiies · Post Post #176 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:16 am

In post 172, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 169, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 167, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 164, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t think there has been any real or serious pressure on Robb and I think Serg is just fucking around.
lock town
Yes. I stated LUV was town multiple times already.
TBH i havent read the entire thread yet. so all this is RVS

Well, read it. We moved out of RVS fast this game.

Boonskiies · Post Post #178 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:17 am

In post 177, acidphoenix wrote:damn accidental pagetop

retroactively justified to being grateful that, even if robb is taking dropping it to an extreme, that he's given up on insisting deathtunnels are correct

He just knows not to death tunnel me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #180 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:18 am

I don’t want to death tunnel, and if logically someone posted actual reasons for him not being scum, I’ll move off of it, but I’m town reading, and have reasonable doubt for some to be scum much more than him, so by POE alone he is scum for me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #181 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:19 am

In post 179, acidphoenix wrote:somehow i doubt that previous!robb would actually be deterred by negative consequences itg

If it lead to his lynch, he would.

Boonskiies · Post Post #187 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:57 am

In post 185, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 128, Boonskiies wrote:Not going to try to waste time trying to convince people to”

Isn’t that exactly what you’re supposed to do?
Yes and I will just not day 1 like I said in my first post. Reading is an important part of this game hombre. I suggest you work on that.

I’d rather just lynch you.

Boonskiies · Post Post #343 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:34 am

In post 219, Alisae wrote:OH MY GOD A HAT IN TIME IS OUT AND IT CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW??????

Okay goodbye I'll be ded for a couple of days

I was going to read the thread, so I started where I left off and saw this.

Yeah, bye everyone. Hat in time.

Boonskiies · Post Post #344 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:35 am

Oh wtf, I’m L-1?

Boonskiies · Post Post #345 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:35 am

I’m like the best mafia catcher on site right now. Go check my recent games.

Boonskiies · Post Post #347 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:40 am

In post 346, Apple Jack wrote:no you aret l-1 and no you aren't the best mafia catcher on site and probably never will be.

Lol. ^

I’ve been said to be one of the three best players in the normal queue recently.

Boonskiies · Post Post #348 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:40 am

Like i’ve even been surprising myself recently with my near 100% accuracy day 3-day 4.

Boonskiies · Post Post #349 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:41 am

That’s why I have to play the way I do, so scum might not night kill me. I get night killed nearly every game.

Boonskiies · Post Post #351 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:43 am

My town game has been lynched once in three years. And it was Day 4 and I was 1v2ing the scum team, and it was one of my close friends on site.

(I got lynched on one of my alts immediately after replacing in, but it was going down whether or not I replaced in)

Boonskiies · Post Post #355 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:49 am

In post 352, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 347, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 346, Apple Jack wrote:no you aret l-1 and no you aren't the best mafia catcher on site and probably never will be.
Lol. ^

I’ve been said to be one of the three best players in the normal queue recently.
are those people drunk? You are one of the to 3 trolliest players maybe.

And yet, I still catch mafia. People have learned that I’m only like that early game when I’m still reaction testing left and right. When I pounce, I pounce hard and give em dat Third Degree Boon.

Tchill here has felt me going hard and catching out him and his partner on Day 1.

I went on my alt account and only posted every now and then, and I had perfect town games on them. See my sig?

RC said I was his hero in a dead chat because of my game solving.

Boonskiies · Post Post #356 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:49 am

In post 354, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 351, Boonskiies wrote:My town game has been lynched once in three years.
not being lynched as town is easy to do. I rarely get lynched as town

I also had a 2+ year scum undefeated streak.

Boonskiies · Post Post #358 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:51 am

In post 353, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 349, Boonskiies wrote:That’s why I have to play the way I do, so scum might not night kill me. I get night killed nearly every game.
well yeah I would kill you also but not because of your scum hunting, because you do have a way of getting town read early for some reason

Fair enough on the town read thing, which I feel is a good thing itself. Mulch and Dunker are rather good at that in my opinion, as well.

Boonskiies · Post Post #359 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:51 am

In post 357, Apple Jack wrote:good for you, I don't really care about your game history

Yeah, just proving you wrong. Makes sense you wouldn’t care.

Boonskiies · Post Post #363 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:54 am

Now for me to comment on some of the stuff I read the past 5 pages.

Alisae’s probably town. I liked her big post with the face reactions. I understood most of them, even the ones where it was slanted faces to some of my posts. I’m a bit much Day 1. I hate being night killed is why.

Tora I’m still figuring out. He could be scum trying to get people to earn where his vote should be placed, if that makes sense, but it could be town not wanting to listen to Serg without good reason. I’ll watch out there for more.

Boonskiies · Post Post #364 (isolation #76) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:54 am

In post 360, Apple Jack wrote:to prove me wrong I would have to fact check your statements. I don't have the time or cares to do that. You have just made some statements that could or could not be true.

Eh, they’re true. You don’t have to fact check it if you don’t want to, but if you do, know they’re there.

Boonskiies · Post Post #365 (isolation #77) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:56 am

In post 361, Apple Jack wrote:I will say this game though you don't look like you are any good at catching scum but it is still early

I said Day 3/Day 4.

People here can probably vouch. I’ll show in this game if scum don’t kill me early. You being here drastically raises my chance of survival, though.

Boonskiies · Post Post #367 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:02 am

In post 366, Apple Jack wrote:cockyness doesn't belong in mafia. if you are actually a good player you should be humble about it. A Liar and an conceited person? yeah i'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game

It’s confidence. If any of my Boon Babes we’re getting attacked on their general play, I would defend and talk them up as well.

Boonskiies · Post Post #368 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:05 am

Also, feigning cockiness in game is pretty good reaction testing anyways.

If scum is a less confident player, they’ll try to get on said person’s side, or be rather anxious when speaking to said person.

If scum is a confident player, they’ll tear them down more and brush them off.

Boonskiies · Post Post #369 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:07 am

There’s obviously wiggle room in between on that, but when I put all the pieces together late game, I can figure out if the trajectories are coming from scum or town. A lot of people tend to throwaway conversations like these for late game, but I believe that every post is important.

Boonskiies · Post Post #371 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:26 am

Eh, if you meta me, you see that’s all town tells from me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #372 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:27 am

Oh, you were talking about the link.

That link was from a game that my scum buddy claimed miller page 1, I backed it up with a Day 2 odd night cop claim, and we got a perfect scum victory.

Boonskiies · Post Post #386 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 am

Mine wasn’t a lie. It was obviously a joke. Read the rules. 10-3 conf.

Boonskiies · Post Post #388 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:26 am

Funny thing is, he’s stating he’s scum reading Why and I, while implying he is aware that it is likely we would do that as town. He even talked in a way last page where he was assuming I was town, then realized it and posted “this is all assuming you are town”. He was auto assuming it, meaning his scum read is fabricated or PL status at best.

Boonskiies · Post Post #389 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:26 am

In post 387, Apple Jack wrote:but this is part of the reason why I am not pushing anyone day 1. People think I am wrong for thinking boon and why lied, now just imagine if I spent the next 8 days trying to get them lynched for it. Would that make people enjoy this game? probably not.

It wouldn't even make the game enjoyable for me.

Straight up refusal of doing anything is better?

Boonskiies · Post Post #392 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:55 am

I disagree. I tend to like watching people who 1v1 people and seeing how others react to it.

So you are null reading us, not scum reading us. Got it. Don’t know why you lied earlier.

Boonskiies · Post Post #394 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:59 am

In post 393, Apple Jack wrote:I didn't lie earlier

Riiiiiight.

Boonskiies · Post Post #396 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:06 am

In post 395, Apple Jack wrote:I don't really care if you believe me or not

Same.

Boonskiies · Post Post #397 (isolation #89) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:06 am

Tchill, you scum?

Boonskiies · Post Post #422 (isolation #90) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:25 am

In post 416, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 409, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 206, Tchill13 wrote:Definitely different play from derpy than what I'm used to here. Whether that's a change in play style or scum motivated idk. I haven't played a lot of games with boonskies but I'm feeling good enough to call him town. Sergtacos seems to play similar to this in every game and I'll be honest I can't read Sergtacos due to his play style. This should be pretty well known by now. I think scum here probably took an early opportunity to call tacos scum because what boonskies was saying does make sense but that almost seems too easy at this point.
I don't know how to explain it, but this pings scum
i don't know how to explain it, but whymaf was one of the players who took an early opportunity to call tacos scum

Seems like you explained it right there.

Boonskiies · Post Post #430 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:53 am

I’m more just doing it to fuck with Derpy at this point.

In response to Alisae.

Boonskiies · Post Post #432 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:53 am

In post 429, Apple Jack wrote:Why retracted his miler claim didn’t he?

Derpy already called Why out for lying. He shouldn’t be asking this or there wouldn’t be any other “lie”why could have done really.

Boonskiies · Post Post #437 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:55 am

In post 435, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 424, Alisae wrote:B. Tchill's 67 could easily just be an RVS vote, but the analysis for it is unnatural because there's no way to understand that just from that one rvs vote. The vote itself has little meaning so it's hard to come out with a strong stance on it.
Would you rather me not give my opinion? I'm calling things as I see them. I'm not going to withhold things in the fear of looking scummy. The vote seems ugly because he voted Uzi for not reading his role PM. That in itself isn't scummy, but he's ignoring the flow of the game.

I feel all these things you are stating describes a Derpy more than Tchill.

Boonskiies · Post Post #453 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:03 pm

In post 450, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 439, Alisae wrote:its an rvs vote
you can't get that amount of depth just from an rvs vote
It's not an RVS vote when there was plenty of other content. He specifically chose to ignore the Boon/Robb/Me situation

Are you talking about Tchill? Because he has been stating town reads on Derpy/Myself. In theory, that can be scum trying for town creed in the case both of us got lynched due to what was assumed a tunnel, which it isn’t that at all right now at this point, but yeah.

Carry on.

Boonskiies · Post Post #472 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 461, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 452, WhyMafia wrote:Dunker who do you SR then? Boon? I need you to explain that cause I don't see it yet
yes boon, it's really just a mulch read, gut and no explanation
i guess i can try to explain
he's normally not an early contributor, actually says that's one of his "town tells" i think
plus just idk, his posts don't feel like normal boon. i feel he could be manipulating his meta too.

I got put into this game early because we left RVS early. I manipulate my meta as town as well.

That’s not one of my town tells, that’s just me in general.

Look at Penguin’s game, you were in it, I didn’t post like at all Day 1 as scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #480 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:24 pm

In post 474, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 471, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i don't think it's super scummy
I personally feel that read is forced, because I don't get why town!Tchill would say that.

He’s in a play evaluation reformation kind of feel, which I kind of see his posts coming from town Tchill.

Kind of thing Mulch was going through not too long ago, and he kept getting scum read for changing his play style.

Boonskiies · Post Post #490 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:31 pm

Alisae and I were both in that micro with you.

You were scum there.

Boonskiies · Post Post #491 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:31 pm

In post 489, WhyMafia wrote:Albeit both slots ended up as town, and my first example was scum!WM actually

Ninja’d me

Boonskiies · Post Post #525 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:12 pm

In post 520, Alisae wrote:I'm talking about A Hat in Time
omg if you love Super Mario 64, or Banjo Kazooie, or ESPECIALLY Super Mario Sunshine buy that shit if you have a spare 30$ sitting around it is AMAZING

Was my life. Still is. I even got Yooka Laylee.

Boonskiies · Post Post #607 (isolation #100) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:22 am

To be fair, I actually also feel like when you said a Serg is probably fucking around, it leaned towards a town read rather than scum since at the time, I believe Serg was being pushed as scummy, so that was your two cents on the matter.

Boonskiies · Post Post #610 (isolation #101) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:27 am

In post 608, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:That makes no sense. Fucking around is just fucking around.

Both alignments do it.

I agree with that, and out of context, I get that, but Serg was being pushed as scum, and you stated you thought he was just fucking around, meaning you weren’t thinking it was scummy, and you stated something that would derail a ScumSerg push. I get what you’re saying, though. You weren’t necessarily town reading them, but I could see why someone would think you were, especially a newer player.

Boonskiies · Post Post #611 (isolation #102) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:29 am

In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A sensible assumptation would be thinking I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.

Sure, but when someone stops a scum push, it generally shows they have reasonable doubt that that person isn’t scum, meaning they think there’s a reasonable chance of being town.

Basically, I’m stating the same thing to you about Sub, if that makes sense. I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.

Boonskiies · Post Post #615 (isolation #103) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:35 am

In post 613, sub4hire wrote:
In post 611, Boonskiies wrote:I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.
he's not accusing me of anything. he's telling me that the way i play the game is different than the way he plays the game and therefore i'm a wolf.

I feel like he just didn’t understand how someone could see his post as calling Serg town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #618 (isolation #104) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:36 am

In post 614, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 611, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A sensible assumptation would be thinking I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.
Sure, but when someone stops a scum push, it generally shows they have reasonable doubt that that person isn’t scum, meaning they think there’s a reasonable chance of being town.

Basically, I’m stating the same thing to you about Sub, if that makes sense. I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.
Honestly I think you should first assume I have no read on said player and not that I have a town read there.

Or just ask. I think town at least asks why you disagree or do I have town read on said player.

In that sense, I feel it was different, though. The answer to any “why do you think he isn’t scum?” Or similar alignment question would just be “I think he’s fucking around.” Something that you already stated.

Boonskiies · Post Post #654 (isolation #105) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:08 pm

VLA until Friday. Full week ahead on set out of town. I’ll be able to get some time in on commutes and whatnot. But I’ll likely be tired out everyday. I shouldn’t ever hit prod range.

Boonskiies · Post Post #658 (isolation #106) » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:35 pm

I should be posting throughout there, but normally I’m an active powerhouse. And there’s just the potential for me not to post. It’s very possible for me to sit down and get in a big interaction with someone for a while. I’m just going to have much limited access compared to how I usually do.
I work on film sets so my work schedule is sporadic, and usually when I’m not active on site just means I’m there. I like to give people the heads up.

Boonskiies · Post Post #674 (isolation #107) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:42 am

In post 673, WhyMafia wrote:I think dunk is just conf biased. I don't think UC is a good lynch unless we're really stuck or need a quick compromise

If you end up being scum with UC, talk about a confbias post.

Boonskiies · Post Post #683 (isolation #108) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:27 am

In post 678, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 655, Mulch wrote:
Vote Count 1.08
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

UC Voyager (3):Tchill13, Dunkerdoodles, Sergtacos

[L-4]

Derpy Hooves(2):Boonskiies, UC Voyager

[L-5]

Tchill13 (2):WhyMafia, Alisae

[L-5]

Sub4hire(2):Lil Uzi Vert, acidphoenix

[L-5]

Lil Uzi Vert (1):Sub4hire

[L-6]

Not voting (3): Toranaga, Derpy Hooves, Assemblertows

[/color]

Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-15 15:30:30)
And I thought I was derpy. Boon and uc do something useful with your vote.

As he sits on Not Voting.

Boonskiies · Post Post #685 (isolation #109) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:30 am

In post 684, Apple Jack wrote:Yep. You’re observant

Consider my vote use in a similar fashion as yours.

Boonskiies · Post Post #689 (isolation #110) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:59 am

In post 686, Apple Jack wrote:But I said I’m not doing anything day 1. You didn’t say that so you being useless right now is bad

To be fair, I generally always say that I don’t care about Day 1’s. Sometimes I get heavily involved, but that’s implied for me. It’s why I’ll quick hammer early game because it protects me from being Night killed, often times it’s scum and they wiggle out of being lynched, and I like getting to late game as soon as possible. If it was up to me, Day 1’s wouldn’t go past page 25, because it’s just a lot of circular reasoning where stances are already painted pretty early. Longer days let scum plan out their trajectory better.

Boonskiies · Post Post #692 (isolation #111) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:02 am

In post 691, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 689, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 686, Apple Jack wrote:But I said I’m not doing anything day 1. You didn’t say that so you being useless right now is bad
To be fair, I generally always say that I don’t care about Day 1’s. Sometimes I get heavily involved, but that’s implied for me. It’s why I’ll quick hammer early game because it protects me from being Night killed, often times it’s scum and they wiggle out of being lynched, and I like getting to late game as soon as possible. If it was up to me, Day 1’s wouldn’t go past page 25, because it’s just a lot of circular reasoning where stances are already painted pretty early. Longer days let scum plan out their trajectory better.
Except you seem to care about day 1 this game.

I mean, I just kind of posts whatever thoughts come into my head. I don’t care too much. Apparently my vote is useless, so that doesn’t really add up with stating I seem to care.

Boonskiies · Post Post #694 (isolation #112) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:44 am

In post 693, Apple Jack wrote:But your actions suggest you care. Otherwise you wouldn’t care so much about what I’m doing.

If you are town, at least be honest.

I’ve hammered my biggest town read as town in games before. I just like getting further into the game.

I don’t see what actions of mine suggest I care. I’ve really only pushed/been on you this game, and I don’t really think that suggests I care, as I’m not even really fighting against you not doing anything nor pushing you harder because of it.

Boonskiies · Post Post #695 (isolation #113) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:45 am

Most of my play this game has been communicating with you, to be honest.

Boonskiies · Post Post #701 (isolation #114) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:00 am

In post 696, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 694, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 693, Apple Jack wrote:But your actions suggest you care. Otherwise you wouldn’t care so much about what I’m doing.

If you are town, at least be honest.
I’ve hammered my biggest town read as town in games before. I just like getting further into the game.

I don’t see what actions of mine suggest I care. I’ve really only pushed/been on you this game, and I don’t really think that suggests I care, as I’m not even really fighting against you not doing anything nor pushing you harder because of it.
So you admit you are a shit player who do anti town things. That’s something I already knew. You worrying about where my vote is at proves you care. If you don’t care about day 1, shut up about what I’m doing.

Nah, I generally win my town games when I do things like that.

I could say the same to you, really. It seems like you care more than I do.

Boonskiies · Post Post #702 (isolation #115) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:01 am

In post 697, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 695, Boonskiies wrote:Most of my play this game has been communicating with you, to be honest.
Which means you care about what I’m doing which contradicts the “I don’t care about day 1” statement you’ve made.

I don’t really care what you do, persay. You’re free to do whatever you want.

Also, I don’t care where your vote is. I just stated your vote isn’t in play. I’m not the one saying you shouldn’t have that. You were the one saying people shouldn’t have useless votes, not me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #926 (isolation #116) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:53 pm

In post 869, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i'd be good with boon or tchill

In post 870, Dunkerdoodles wrote:also i actually think derpy is scum not just bad town

In post 871, Dunkerdoodles wrote:derpy also good lynch

So Derpy, Tchill, and myself are scum...?

Boonskiies · Post Post #927 (isolation #117) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:55 pm

I think I have a few pages to catch up on still. I just skimmed a few random pages. I think I can catch up completely in the morning.

Boonskiies · Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:58 am

So guys, I’m going to actually be more limited now...

My city got evacuated from a giant fire last night....fire’s still going, and unknown if my apartment got burned down or not yet. It’s 5 am here, and the city is kind of in panic. Yeah. So...yeah. :/

Boonskiies · Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:33 pm

My apartment complex partly burned down, but for the most part, it survived. But the area is fucked and dangerous with looters and whatnot, with the power lines getting wrecked, and no water...so I can’t go home for a bit.

My friend is letting me stay at her house for a little while, so I will have time to catch up and what not, probably tomorrow.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:34 am

In post 1916, Alisae wrote:Derpy I am not nor ever voting Why in this current gamestate baring a cop guilty
Claiming miller then taking it back never comes from scum it is extremely risky and sloppy to do that so fucking STOP

On the flip side of this, he was joking and took it back pretty quickly after my SK joke claim.

But I tend to agree, Why self voting I don’t see coming from scumWhy.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:43 am

In post 1918, Alisae wrote:Hay boon what are your reads and did you survive the apocalypse in LA?
It looks like ya did

I’m in the North bay fires. I survived it. I get to go home next week so long as nothing crazy happens.

I have town reads on Why, Tchill, Tacos, and my Derpy read has changed also.

That Sub/LUV 1 on 1 does have me lean scum towards scum, like a scum creating a logical argument to fight LUV that would end up making him look better in the long run, if that makes sense? I do that when I’m scum. I’m a little paranoid of you, but I don’t think anything you’ve done is inherently scummy. I usually have a town read on a Assemble by this time, and I don’t, so he’s probably scum. I don’t have many strong scum reads this game, but I’m happy with my town reads. You guys might not like the Tchill/Why, but I just have a lot of familiarity with them both, and feel I can read them.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:46 am

To be fair, I’ve been pocketed by Why before, and didn’t figure it out until it was too late.
I was hoping to do some NKA because I’m dumb and for some reason didn’t expect UC to die even though he was a claimed PR, but then I remembered I’m the weird one who wouldn’t pick that for a night kill. Makes sense for everyone else.
That got me thinking scum is okay with the pace of the game right now, so I think both Why and Derpy are likely town, unless one of them expected to just lynch the other with no problems.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:01 am

I’ll take one railroad to go, please.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:07 am

yeah, Michael. I do.

Also, growing suspicion of Alisae and Tchill scum theatre.

both are targeting each other and fighting but want separate lynched.

But that’s just my tin foil. I still think Tchill is town.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:09 am

Hmm, Alisae/Sub both scum? Alisae said they like busing...it fits, but this would be rather hard busing in that case, almost enough to make the wagon go that way instead of WhyMafia/Tchill, which is odd to me, so the tin foil is there still, but I think I’m starting to lean more town for Alisae. Does that make sense?

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:12 am

In post 1951, Alisae wrote:We're not trying to go for each other we're trying to lynch who we believe is scum and we're getting into conflict because tchill is an ass but either way if you think that's scum theatre that's fine the only way I die here is by rope because scum aren't going to fucking night kill me

Why wouldn’t they night kill you? If you’re right on your scum team, or at least like 2/3, then killing you can easily be pushed off as Tchill getting rid of you and they mislynch Tchill. If you’re wrong on scum, that group can be framed. Either way, you seem to be good at getting out of being lynched, so I don’t see why you wouldn’t be a potential night kill target. At least not the little extent you stated.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:14 am

Why is why scum and not just town who did some not great things?

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:14 am

In fact, some of those not great things, like the self vote, are reasons why I’m town reading Why more.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:15 am

In post 1963, Tchill13 wrote:She's never gonna get nk'd because she's scum come on now boon.

I didn’t bring that up because I was speaking to her. Thats not an option/response that she would give as scum.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:36 am

How am I passive? I’ve given my entire reads list. I’ve been commenting on nearly everything directed towards em, and on the Alisae/Tchill feud. Would you rather me jump in there and be overly aggressive with them?

I put my read out on Sub, who Alisae is pushing, and I stated I have paranoia and could see Alisae as scum, which is giving me pause. Tchill is a stated town read of mine.

Can you explain to me what of my play is me being passive, or why that it’s scummy for me to be passive. I’m a rather aggressive scum player.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:39 am

I mean, it matters to me who scum is.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:50 am

I made up town reads and just happened to be in sync with Alisae prior to Alisae stating that?

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:53 am

FOS: Michael

Seems like you thought I was going to side with Alisae on her stated scum team, and tearing me down before that happens.

Why is “being serious” and calling out people with scum reads on them not scummy? WhyMafia’s game, I was scum in, Mulch called out a scum read on me, and I hard went on him, and got him lynched.

I have said things about it. I’ve been calling Why town nearly all game. I’ve been calling Tchill town all game. I feel my Derpy read makes sense. So explain which one isn’t there?

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:55 am

to that unvote.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:11 am

To be fair, I don’t know if Mulch has ever modded a game here on mafiascum, so we don’t know his style.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:11 am

That was to the vengeful comment. I think I said that out of context of whatever y’all were talking about.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:15 am

Yeah, I know that, but this is technically his first game on mafiascum because of the cheater thing. I don’t think it’s relevant, though, right now.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:21 am

In post 2006, Tchill13 wrote:Vote me alisae

VOTE: Me Alisae

VOTE: Michael

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:23 am

In post 2016, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah I have the same issue derpy

I’ve only seen you have one of those people in your scum pool. If Alisae is in your scum pool, and you seem so sure about why and Alisae, which of those are the third for you. I don’t feel like you actually have the same issue as Derpy.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:23 am

In post 2016, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah I have the same issue derpy

Also, Derpy is in that. Do you scum read Derpy or Dunker?

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:26 am

Why’s play hasn’t been great, but why does that make him scum? This isn’t even a too scummy to be scum defense. It’s a flat out, what exactly makes him scum? Because I don’t see scum motivation from Why.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:31 am

In post 2021, Apple Jack wrote:And I can never town read or trust a player who thinks that is a good reason to town read somebody. That’s not playing a mafia.

Why isn’t that a good reason to town read someone? It’s done me right before. It’s not just one thing that adds up, I look at the entirety of the play, so a bunch of little things add up. At the same time, I’ve had people be my top town read, and then I was able to go back and look through things and change it to my top scum read, and push them. I did this to Tchill before when he was scum.

I went back over Why’s ISO, and I still see town Why. Scum still have to push a scum agenda, and hindsight makes everything make sense, so having the foresight to jump on top of that is actually good reasons to town read someone.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:33 am

In post 2022, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2020, Boonskiies wrote:Why’s play hasn’t been great, but why does that make him scum? This isn’t even a too scummy to be scum defense. It’s a flat out, what exactly makes him scum? Because I don’t see scum motivation from Why.
I’ve alrwad explained all the many things he’s done that makes him scum.

Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?

When I’m scum, those are the kind of things that I push, and usually the question I just asked can counter my scum pushes.

*wink to Mulch, for next time you gotta 1v1 me when I’m scum.*

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:34 am

I guess what I’m asking is, can you see WhyMafia just doing those things as town? You can still scum read him for that, or feel he’s scum. I just want the answer to that question.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:34 am

Tchill’s also.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:40 am

In post 2027, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2023, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2021, Apple Jack wrote:And I can never town read or trust a player who thinks that is a good reason to town read somebody. That’s not playing a mafia.
Why isn’t that a good reason to town read someone? It’s done me right before. It’s not just one thing that adds up, I look at the entirety of the play, so a bunch of little things add up. At the same time, I’ve had people be my top town read, and then I was able to go back and look through things and change it to my top scum read, and push them. I did this to Tchill before when he was scum.

I went back over Why’s ISO, and I still see town Why. Scum still have to push a scum agenda, and hindsight makes everything make sense, so having the foresight to jump on top of that is actually good reasons to town read someone.
Cause scum can fake it very easily. You have to judge the overall play and literally nothing points to town imo.

I am judging the overall play. Nothing points to scum for me. What play by him benefits ScumWhy? Even his associations are non existent. He would probably be null for me if I wasn’t familiar with Why/the pressure on him also makes me town read him securely.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:41 am

In post 2028, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2025, Boonskiies wrote:I guess what I’m asking is, can you see WhyMafia just doing those things as town? You can still scum read him for that, or feel he’s scum. I just want the answer to that question.
No I can’t see a town player doing them.

Fair enough. This I can accept. I don’t agree with it, but I think it makes sense coming from TownDerpy.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:44 am

In post 2030, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2024, Boonskiies wrote:Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?
1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.

Yeah, Alisae’s probably scum with Michael, though trying to pocket Why. I don’t like how she isn’t pushing Michael yet was putting him as scum with Sub, and Michael was posting.

Also curious as to why Tchill is targeting Why over Alisae, but I’m generally town reading Tchill. He’s more submissive in confrontations when he’s scum.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:48 am

In post 2033, Apple Jack wrote:Way too many people using meta as a defense. That’s a slippery slope

Yeah, I agree, even though I’ve been using it heavily. I have a town read everyone until I have a reason not to kind of play style, and meta for me just makes it so I won’t scum read for NAI, if that makes sense. I mainly use it early game, before I can point out awkward trajectories in people.

It helps that I think scum is in Michael/Alisae/Sub/Assemble. At least two. And I don’t see them as partnered with Why.

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:35 pm

Why is my Derpy vote not on that analysis?

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:36 pm

I was there the majority of Day 1. Is that the people who voted them?

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:37 pm

Also, why are you in the middle region of those reads?

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Michael is clearly scum. If Why is actually scum, Michael’s probably busing then trying to go elsewhere.

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:00 pm

If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:13 pm

By the way, I’m in two separate neighborhoods.

There is a variant role, Day Organizer, our there where they can pick any two people per day and put them in a neighborhood. I am leaving the name omitted right now of the player who is this role. Day 1, they put me and themselves in a neighborhood. Day 2, they put me and Why in a neighborhood. I stated they could have put themself in a neighborhood with someone in case they didn’t trust me or anything, but I’d like to be put in a neighborhood with someone I town read and could work with if town, so I said Why. Why and I have had a neighborhood since early-mid day 2, where I stayed my thinking that Dunker was probably just town, and that Alisae was scummy, so even though I am not officially on that wagon, I feel I am a part of that mislynch, as I was pushing it in thread even, and honestly, scum probably used my paranoia and thoughts of Alisae Scum to their advantage.

Why has then stated that he thinks either me or the Day Organizer, whom Why knows the identity of, and I can’t see that Day Organizer role as a scum role, mixed in with how said person’s play is.

I’m somewhat leaning Why right now over Tchill. I was town reading them both earlier in this game. One of them are scum with Michael.

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:15 pm

In post 2207, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2201, Boonskiies wrote:If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael
starting to seriously think boon is scum after that post

What about it makes you think that? I said the same exact thing about Why. Why is this the one you singled out? I agree with the assessment one of you guys are scum. But Michael was the person I was pushing yesterday as well. What’s wrong with that post, please? Explain. Why should I go for a 50/50 chance when I have like a 90% chance elsewhere. I can probably do the actual math on that if someone wants me too, mixed in with my POE, of course.

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm

In post 2203, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 2201, Boonskiies wrote:If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael
this lines up a mislynch

How does it line up a mislynch? It’s 8 players alive, assuming 3 scum, this is mylo bar any shenanigans. (I can think of a situation where it isn’t, not that hard to see, but I don’t really understand that from you. What is there to setup?

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:19 pm

In post 2211, Tchill13 wrote:why not put the issue of me and whymaf to rest? seems like you think of michael flips scum i'm scum too.

In post 2200, Boonskiies wrote:Michael is clearly scum. If Why is actually scum, Michael’s probably busing then trying to go elsewhere.

You clearly didn’t read the post directly before the one you quoted...

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:30 pm

You read the Day Organizer thing, right?

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:34 pm

What gives me a little pause is that he is stating you are 100% scum, yet stated a potential where I’m scum, albeit the other person in the neighborhoods more so than me, which is just kind of poor play if he’s scum.

Boonskiies · Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:35 pm

Like it was a one or the other with me and said person, not just potential scum. If it was just potential, that’s leaving options open.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:15 am

In post 2223, Michael22Omega wrote:Boon
Why would you vote me if you say Tchill is scum? You don't know who is the scum between Tchill/whymafia. So your argument of voting me because "I'm scum with tchill is soo weak"

Again, like Tchill, you didn’t read my posts.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:59 am

Hmm.

Unvote

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:21 am

Looks like we’re popcorning. Tchill goes after Porken.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:03 am

Neapolitan gets vanilla on VT only. Vanilla Cop gets not vanilla on Goon.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:15 am

Porkers
Tchill
Why
Reaverb/Acid
Sub

2 of these guys are town, and the rest are scum. One of the town are likely in Why/Tchill because that’s not S/S.

Which means 1 town in Sub/Reaverb/Porkers. Gonna do some iso reading.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:23 am

The fact that Derpy was targeting myself and Why, then went after Why pretty death tunneling Why makes me think that the team is either

Porkers/Tchill/one of Acid/Sub

Or

Why/Acid/Sub

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:38 pm

Recently, they’ve been clearing games after a lot of town power is there based on towns not getting it together. I don’t necessarily agree with the amount of power towns should be getting.

Regardless, none of the PR’s are like...game changing, and Neapolitan isn’t too strong if there’s a lot of PR’s, as they only get vanilla on VT’s.

Also, the way Michael targeted Porkers the way he did screams town.

Otherwise, I’d agree with you. I was scum reading Michael pretty hard, but I genuinely feel like he felt he caught out Porkers, which by all means, he very well might have. Just matters if we believe porker forgot he wasn’t a VT.

He remembered that the action was used Night 1, though...

@Porkers - why did you choose to not use your action last night?

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Porkers very well could be a mafia commuter, also.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 2266, Porkens wrote:
In post 2262, Michael22Omega wrote:
In post 2261, Porkens wrote:Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?
I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really
K so why did you out me?

Because you had a direct contradiction to his action.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:43 pm

How do I fit on that vocal analysis of yours?

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:43 pm

Votal.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:56 pm

In post 2272, Porkens wrote:
In post 2267, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2266, Porkens wrote:
In post 2262, Michael22Omega wrote:
In post 2261, Porkens wrote:Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?
I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really
K so why did you out me?
Because you had a direct contradiction to his action.
He just said he is fine with a town PR fakeclaiming.

He didn’t say he was fine with that, he said he didn’t care if Tchill claimed or not, basically.

You weren’t fake claiming. You slipped up. Whether your story is actually true or not, and you forgot, or if you are scum correcting yourself getting caught out, it was still some sort of slip up.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:58 pm

Apparently, there’s a 3rd option and Reaverb thinks you guys planned that interaction. I don’t agree with that, and that makes me lean feel if you and Chill are scum, then Sub is the third, unless Reaverb is distancing, and then plans on tunneling Michael.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:33 pm

VOTE: Porken

He’s voting Tchill and calling Why scum. The Neapolitan counter result. Lack of using action Night 2. I think this makes the most sense.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 2286, Porkens wrote:I'm voting Tchill because he didn't claim. MASSCLAIM doesn't mean two people go and then stop. Boon, you even said he was next. Why do you not care anymore?

I forgot what my role was. I fucked up. Sorry.

I didn't use my action night 2 because I didn't think my slot would be targeted.

Your vote is...shit!

I know everyone’s role. We don’t need to massclaim. It helps scum st this point.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:42 pm

I’m thinking

Porkens Scum Commuter
Reaverb Scum
Subhire scum

Tchill
Why
Michael
Tacos
Boon

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:44 pm

Porkens setting himself up to build on either Why or Tchill, then when someone else votes upon them, they can finish the game. They’ve probably figured out who the vig is and it doesn’t worry them.

That’s why Reaverb is trying to move the wagon into Michael.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:28 pm

First, what do you mean all of a sudden? I’ve had a strong town read on Why most of this game. I was a little iffy at the beginning of today, but mainly because Why and Tchill were deathtunneling, and I had them both as town for a good chunk of this game.

Second, I know where the vigilante is, and why it benefits scum to lynch outside of Why/Tchill if they are TvT.

Third, because you are scummy as hell and you don’t make sense as a partner with Why.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:32 pm

So, I’m going to do a thing to help solidify who’s scum or not.

The following may or may not be true.
Either WhyMafia or Tchill is a vigilante. WhyMafia explained to me he was the vigilante in the neighborhood and shot Assemble due to the activity level, possibly scum, and because he thought that people would truly see Tchill as scum, because he states that it’s super obvious and that he shouldn’t have to shoot him. This is typically how I like vig shots being done, so I agree with this. If this scenario is not true, neither of you claim it right now, please. He shot at Derpy Nght 1.

Now, Tchill as the hypothetical vigilante chose not to shoot Night 1. Night 2 he mentioned Assemble being a good investigative/vig kill. He shot Assemble night 2.

Now, Porkens is voting Tchill, while calling Why scum, and Rev is pushing Michael as scum, and called the vanilla situation setup, yet on his scum teams, he had Porkens potentially not on the team.

Scum benefits from keeping the Why/Tchill situation in a 1v1, as I don’t believe it’s too hard to figure out that one of them is the vigilante since Michael claimed. Now, Porkens is keeping both of them open, making no cases, and kind of stalling while Reav tries to have multiple options outside of them so that one of Why/Tchill will shoot the other and win the game that way. Right now we’re 3-5, so a mislynch and a miskill wins.

It’s also why Porkens would be wanting Tchill to claim so much, and why it doesn’t make sense for Michael to flat out not care.

This is all hypothetical of course.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:37 pm

But yeah, the team is literally Porkens, reaverb, and Sub.

If I’m wrong, Vigilante, kill me. It would mean I fucked up hard and deserved to lose, because if Why or Tchill dupes me this way, I will cry and admit that i’m inferior, and they deserved the win.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:40 pm

I don’t care where we lynch of the three. I just want to lynch one of the three. I hard POE’d this game.

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:46 pm

Think I’m scum with Reav and Sub?

I’ll vote either of them.

VOTE: Reave
VOTE: Sub
VOTE: Reave

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:48 pm

Who you want Porkens?

Boonskiies · Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:50 pm

In post 2327, Porkens wrote:Con...firmed?

Which one of them are my partners. I’ll lynch either of them. Vote with me. Then the vigilante can shoot me tonight. Two scum down, right?

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:27 am

Sure, Tacos is the Organizer. It’s pretty obvious at this point.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:28 am

Also, that situation with Why might not have happened, want that to be aware. If that didn’t happen Tchill was vig. If it did, I told Why to claim VT.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:30 am

In post 2090, Sergtacos wrote:
I FUCKING LOVE BURRITOS!!!!!!

WhyMafia told me to tell Tacos to say Burrito in thread to confirm that he was in a neighborhood with me.

It is mechnically confirmed that the neighborhood organizer Taco exists.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:08 am

In post 2350, Porkens wrote:what is an organizer?

Variant role. He just gets to put two people in a neighborhood each day. Doesn’t have to be himself.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:03 am

Just that it exists. Alignments aren’t technically confirmed.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:18 am

Why told me to tell Serg to post burritos in the game. That’s why Why laughed afterwards.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:19 am

In post 2357, Michael22Omega wrote:Umm
Tchill isn't hammered yet

I’m starting to be okay with it for now.

Boonskiies · Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:21 am

VOTE: Tchill

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:52 pm

Woo! Good work, guys!!

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:53 pm

I claimed scum to Serg in neighborhood.

With Why and Porkens, lol.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:17 pm

Although, my setup spec was right that I thought a watcher would be here.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:08 pm

In post 2416, UC Voyager wrote:i was the obv night kill

Yeah, that's why I tried not having to kill you.

I wasn't lying when I said UC was a kill I would never make.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 2425, Alisae wrote:can someone remind me again how you forget your role?

I once fantasized in a game about how awesome of a game I'd have been playing if I was a SK. Then I thought I was SK after a day or two of being inactive. I realized it around Day 4.

It doesn't happen more than once. Believe that.

Boonskiies · Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:11 pm

In post 2431, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 2423, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2416, UC Voyager wrote:i was the obv night kill
Yeah, that's why I tried not having to kill you.

I wasn't lying when I said UC was a kill I would never make.
I guessed you and torenga on day one....but i would not have guessed sub4hire.....if it were my choice, we would have lynched you, or Tchill day one

this is my first finished game.......

I like keeping people who scum read me alive as scum.