Saw this in the traitor iso. Seems to imply Nero claimed mason...what?In post 261, UnaBombaH wrote:The last time I'm going to ask: is this for real?In post 259, Mulch wrote:Nero barely talks in the PT lol
Can Nero confirm this one more time?
I even had to double-check the wiki to see that Normal game-Masons are always Town, so if you are, I think I'll just sheep you to victory.
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Getting caught up.In post 4145, gerryoat wrote:Titus would you like to lynch the mafia known as Nero?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 2617, UnaBombaH wrote:I said I am willing to sheep, but I just want to ask for clarification before I do:
do you scumread his slot based on Ignition-content, or his entrance to the game?
Mario is like 85% town.In post 254, UnaBombaH wrote:
Best (mis-)director?In post 253, MarioManiac4 wrote:If Ignition is scum, he deserves an Oscar.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'm only reading scum ISOs and vc skimming.
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Can someone tell me the claims and what days they happened on?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah, this seems like gerry has a guilty nero. It's not subtle.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Nero
Not really convinced this is scum but Gerry's confidence is townie, Nero's reads suck and his reply to call me scum when I highlighted Gerry's confidence was ick.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Here I am shitting fences. They go through me easy until I do my data work.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Oh and Gerry's confidence is uber town or a guilty so *shrug*. I can't see a reason to kerp you.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Roleblocker, reflexive investigator jailkeep, invest immune blah blah blahIn post 4264, Nero Cain wrote:
oh this?In post 4173, Titus wrote:Yeah, this seems like gerry has a guilty nero. It's not subtle.
Why are you ignoring my claim? If you think Gerry has a guilty on me explain how the no result from Kid.
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If he has a guilty, it does.In post 4267, Nero Cain wrote:
Even if Gerry is town that doesn't mean he's right.In post 4265, Titus wrote:Oh and Gerry's confidence is uber town or a guilty so *shrug*. I can't see a reason to kerp you.
If he doesn't, I like him. He's easier to work with. There's independent reason to lynch you (ascetic) and your flip helps me diagnose town by comparing your scum or town flip to d1. I can't see a reason to keep you.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not accurate. There's many things that make Nero's ascetic claim fall apart.In post 4270, Eddie Cane wrote:
omg you're a CONFIRMED neg util role. guess what? a miller is a CONFIRMED miller... because a cop would return scum.In post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:
There's a pretty huge difference between scum fakeclaiming miller and some me being a CONFIRMED ascetic.In post 4245, Eddie Cane wrote:both are in your vig pool, go wild
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Putting a burden on Nero to say he complied with site meta is dumb. It's just something people do. Not Nero's biggest fan but no one, unless late 2017 has to show why they ascetic claimed post 1.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It is, because if the claim is fake, we nail scum. Plus, we can further investigate the results therefrom. For instance, why did what's his face fail action? Why did he target Nero?In post 4276, Eddie Cane wrote:
its in jest, yea there's scenarios where he's not ascetic but realistically idrc because in any world where he's not ascetic he's scumIn post 4272, Titus wrote:
Not accurate. There's many things that make Nero's ascetic claim fall apart.In post 4270, Eddie Cane wrote:
omg you're a CONFIRMED neg util role. guess what? a miller is a CONFIRMED miller... because a cop would return scum.In post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:
There's a pretty huge difference between scum fakeclaiming miller and some me being a CONFIRMED ascetic.In post 4245, Eddie Cane wrote:both are in your vig pool, go wild
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I was rereading the Miller claim here because Nero made me remember that game, it's cute how both times I get pushed back by scum claiming neg util.anywaysdue to fake claiming ascetic so realistically it isn't worth the thoughts.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That's not what I am seeing here.In post 4277, Eddie Cane wrote:
nero asked me my experience with ascetic and asked how I interacted with them in the past. I asked him back. He refused.In post 4275, Titus wrote:Putting a burden on Nero to say he complied with site meta is dumb. It's just something people do. Not Nero's biggest fan but no one, unless late 2017 has to show why they ascetic claimed post 1.
Mario read?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mary Saotome (4): Vanilla Townie C,, Nero Cain, Vanilla Townie B, Encryptor
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I disagree with your characterization of Nero's reply.In post 4282, Eddie Cane wrote:
huh?In post 4280, Titus wrote:
That's not what I am seeing here.In post 4277, Eddie Cane wrote:
nero asked me my experience with ascetic and asked how I interacted with them in the past. I asked him back. He refused.In post 4275, Titus wrote:Putting a burden on Nero to say he complied with site meta is dumb. It's just something people do. Not Nero's biggest fan but no one, unless late 2017 has to show why they ascetic claimed post 1.
Mario read?
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KidAmn, Excession, and Nero all decent lynches
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@Eddie, what do you think of my reads?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mod: Did the traitor know their team?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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He stood out in my traitor skim through.
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Aware but mods can put non-normal roles in games. So verifying my weak vca has minor validity.In post 4301, Nero Cain wrote:A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:
is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
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I was saying why weren't you lynched d1.In post 4303, Nero Cain wrote:Like your post for town reading, Mario is exactly why I'm suspicious of you and Mario.
There's also his colored list that has both Cane and an active lurking Massive so I think there's atleast one scum there.
I'd guess that Creature was p obv town and wasn't going to get lynched and as Cane has already pointed out that he knew I was crumbing, pgo/ascetic. Why would scum shoot at that?In post 4302, Titus wrote:Say, why do you feel you survived day 1?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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You and I both know that a great case to one means shit to someone else. You know I'm not reading d1.In post 4308, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm going to answer your question with a question. What was the great case on me d1 that ppl should have sheeped?In post 4306, Titus wrote:I was saying why weren't you lynched d1.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Hi. I guess you take issue with my reads hmmph.In post 4307, KidAmn wrote:Anyone still calling the Titus/Mulch slot locktown at this point needs to severely re-evaluate.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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No. I haven't skimmed the other. I've also been doing minimal vca and interacting with you.In post 4313, Nero Cain wrote:your lone takeaway from reading the two scum iso's are that Mario is "85%" town?
Why are you attempting to strawman my posts? Gerry's posting is one the reasons I want you lynched. You try to argue it's the only one. Here, you're acting as if skimming one ISO = getting reads on all.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah, and it's not my lone takeaway, nor have I done everything I want to do. Your question was answered. I got VCA and other things.In post 4315, Nero Cain wrote:I think you are scum hiding behind Gerry. I'm not asking you your reads, I'm asking you if that was your lone takeaway. It's a simple yes or no question. I doubt you "misread" so I'm just going to assume that was an intentional misrep and I think that's scum.
Though TBF, I'd expect alot more from a town Titus.
You expected more of me in Civ mafia and were a big reason I gave up. You and Math "expect more" after I nail the scumteam. So you can back away from that expect more or hiding nonsense and engage what I say rather than framing it.
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Yeah, not feeling this Nero counter.
Either a) Nero's scum or b) he provides a benefit to them. Otherwise, they wouldn't bother wagoning flairs at all.
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@Mario, why is KidAmn in your locktown reads? His reply to me is very scummy. It seems more about silencing me than it is engaging with anyone. Nero and KidAmn seem to be just flooding until we give up.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 505, UnaBombaH wrote:What is this?
Excession starts a wagon on my #1 fake-townie, and once it gets traction, you vote him?
Mario please...don't be scum..In post 475, UnaBombaH wrote:
Thank god I wasn't the only one!In post 465, Excession wrote:Holy shit, can someone tell me if there was anything relevent in post 405, it was making me lose the will to live so I gave up reading it. True Story.
The worst part was that I'm the kind of player who can't just let questions be: if I'm posed one, I'll honestly try to explain myself..
My readslist already gave it away, but I think it's time to VOTE: Yumeko Jabami and see if they have anything else to offer, other than walls full of questions.
Excession pocketed me with his one post, that must be a record!In post 901, UnaBombaH wrote:
Here here!In post 896, MarioManiac4 wrote:Fine with just lynching excession or massive to be honest.
I'm still most interested in this whole Mary-situation, seems like there are very strong convictions to either direction.
Wallposter Tokugawa is also still on my radar, but Mario said he is a secret alt who is never scum.In post 936, UnaBombaH wrote:VOTE: Excession
PSA: NO IDEA WHAT THE VOTECOUNT IS, I'M JUST TRYING TO HANG WITH THE BIG BOYS...(get it? )In post 962, UnaBombaH wrote:
I don't honestly find either of them too scummy tbh.In post 951, MarioManiac4 wrote:I'm from britain and am liberal, I was joking lol. Is there any reaaon you prefer excession vote to massive vote?
I'd go digging more on the Theta/Yumeko -axel, but I know a lone vote doesn't produce a lot of pressure..In post 1365, UnaBombaH wrote:I do not like the osuka-wagon.
I think we would lose a good townplayer D1, compared to some other wagons that (even if flipping town) would eliminate hindrances from D2/D3..
I believe Excession is a good lynch for today, SAME WITH THAT YUMEKO-WallBuilder, who is still voting me and hasn't posted since got a small start of a wagon on him!
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Oh kidamn faked gs not a surprise okIn post 4501, Eddie Cane wrote:kidamn, you have my approval if you wanna gunsmith titus instead of tiam. i am not tolerating that slot being lynched unless you want to claim a guilty.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Probably makes him not lynchable for a bit based on site meta, but still scum by vote pattern. Highly likelyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yes.In post 4395, wavemode wrote:In post 4390, wavemode wrote:In any case, to be clear: are you willing to kill Nero tonight or not?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok I was only asking about excessionIn post 4509, Eddie Cane wrote:
i don't think una and yumeko are partners. una and excession, maybe. una and mario, maybe.In post 4504, Titus wrote:Does this look like a bus to you Eddie?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Already answered, you and kid amnIn post 4513, Nero Cain wrote:the more Titus avoids answering
the more I think she's scum.In post 4500, Nero Cain wrote:gonna reply to?
In post 4481, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, true, Titus is pretty wonky but if she thinks I'm scum and my lone buddy or two is pushing this Flairs wagon then she needs to explain who they are and why. This "they" stuff just seems way shallow.
And her line about there being a counter-wagon to me b/c I'm "useful" to scum seems like her goal is to shift blame to once I flip town. And again she's not naming names so...
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VOTE: Dunkerdoodles
If I can't have Nero or Kid Amn, I'll take the guy voting obvtown.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Nero, keep trying to discredit me. Bring it. Even if you get me mislynched, you won't be able to hide your wagon spontaneously decombusting twice with near all town composition.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The votes say he's suspect. Claiming gunsmith, so what?In post 4554, Boonskiies wrote:
Why is Kid even a possibility? He's basically conf town, and if he isn't then he'll be outed later.In post 4549, Titus wrote:VOTE: Dunkerdoodles
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+1In post 4552, gerryoat wrote:this is why we shoulda just lynched nero. this day is turning to shit
Nero is whining about being ignored when almost every question he asked has already been answered. He came looking to do drama the moment I came in. I was hoping he'd learn something but right now I see zero utility to keeping nero aliveShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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This doesn't mean much.In post 4609, gerryoat wrote:i dont care anymore. It should be obvious i'm town because of my hammer on Game and me pushing Dunk to hammer flairs without a claim.
I'm also more worried about KidAmn not dying as well. I don't expect him to be blocked either, as blocking is about the only way to explain dunker death.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That being said, with Nero being town dumb. Yumeko is probably scum.
VOTE: YumekoShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Scums gotta go somewhere. I only intend to vote KidAmn and YJ.
KidAmn can visit me tonight and clear me if he wants. Or he can continue trying to pick his lylo. Matters not to me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Yumeko
Still kidamn and yumeko.
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Oh and vt.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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How do you believe only one scum left?In post 4880, skirt skirt wrote:i mean, we are up 8:1. a mislynch, misvig, and a kill makes it 5:1, so even IF we mislynch and misvig, we have ANOTHER day where we can mislynch AND STILL MISVIG before lylo. basically, we get to flip 4 players before its 3p lylo. scum have REALLY fucked up by not killing you so far, you're doubling towns kills and i don't think scum is experienced enough to realize that. before a hypothetical scum!titus subbing in, the entire scum team is pretty much inexperienced/idle. basically, the point of this post is that i'm honestly not worried about the lynch today because getting two town flips in massive and titus still removes a lot of dead easy mislynchable weight. knowing mm4 and nero are town makes titus look really shitty too.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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And scum never shoot the gs either? Don't you find that suspect?In post 4885, skirt skirt wrote:scum can't block him, if they had a roleblocker we'd have known a long time ago.
titus, why are you arguing 2 remaining scum? do you think it was 6?
It's a large. Game needs balance. Yes I do believe two.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Massive is not the lynch. Yumeko is.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If it's not lynch Yumeko, I do not approve.
The rest, do whatever.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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There's an open setup with backups different.In post 4991, KidAmn wrote:
I'm seriously confused as to how you reach this. With Wave claiming backup gunsmith, how do you reconcile that with me as scum AND Yumeko as scum? Pretty sure backups of different alignments are heavily non-normal.In post 4882, Titus wrote:VOTE: Yumeko
Still kidamn and yumeko.
Scum still didn't even try to shoot kidamn or block him. There's your give away.
Second, you aren't required scum. You just likely are due to common sense.
Third, Yumeko is a group suspect, so why does it matter if you're truly flexible.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Real Force Blues was mafia heavy. Plus traitor = half a mafia.In post 4990, Yumeko Jabami wrote:
Hey Titus, can you link me a twenty-one person game with six mafia all on the same team? I don't think this ratio exists - you won't be able to find itIn post 4887, Titus wrote:
And scum never shoot the gs either? Don't you find that suspect?In post 4885, skirt skirt wrote:scum can't block him, if they had a roleblocker we'd have known a long time ago.
titus, why are you arguing 2 remaining scum? do you think it was 6?
It's a large. Game needs balance. Yes I do believe two.
With my claimed role and only theoretically one mafia left, as well as there being a gunsmith, why do you believe my night action is not worth using tonight?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'll do a more detailed vca but it is what it is.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Without Yuki being scum or KidAmn scum or backup scum, game is follow the gs.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah I'll read it later. My votes say Yumeko. Yumeko is my vote barring something beyond cruising. You've already shown you don't need me.In post 5050, skirt skirt wrote:@titus - hence why we lynch massive and not yumekoShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Yumeko
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It's either Yumeko or Kid at this point probably.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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