Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

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I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?

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I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

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I didn’t post it in this game, I believe, but I posted it elsewhere. The fires in California started like...at my house. Fortunately, it mostly survived, even though everything around it didn’t, but I’ve been staying at a friends’ house the past few days, so hadn’t really had the time to come on. I almost replaced out, but pretty soon I’ll want the distraction, so I just stayed on VLA. I’ll be in this game pretty soon. I just have a lot to catch up on, but I generally should be able to start catching up.

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Who’s still scum reading this slot after 20 something pages of me only having 2 early game Boon posts. I’m about to go on a Boon Tunnel, because Scum is caught red handed!!!

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Who was pushing me as scum still? I’d like to OMGUS.

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LQ, there’s no way I’m lynching you this game. Was Havo pushing me as scum?

(Remember, I’m a reaction test player.)

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Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.

Sorry, context. No one is really super on point in this game, meaning you are going to be wrong a lot in this game.

I’m going to be super on point by tomorrow.

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Err and LQ are town for me.

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Egg and Tchill are also town for now, albeit aren’t screaming town to me, but I’m leaning there.

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Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.

Sorry, context. No one is really super on point in this game, meaning you are going to be wrong a lot in this game.

Actually, scratch that.

Explain this. Why do you feel town wins yet no one is super on point, implying no ones doing great right now?

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Status quo can be town for now. I liked his posts and reasonings for things.

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Gonna naked vote here for now.

VOTE: Havo

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Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

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Valuable arguments necessary. No, I like Lalendra as copped.

By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

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Yeah we get two wagons near a Lynch and all of a sudden naked/crappy votes are going on havo.i wonder why.

Because Boon came back, and wrecked these counter mislynch was. That’s why they stopped. They both have scum on them, and it benefits scum to let it stall until townies compromise on one of them.

I ain’t bout ta stand back and let this go. Hell naw.

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I actually think this is much different than Scumble and more like TownMumble. Hack is likelyscum.

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One thing that has given me a bit of pause on Mumble is he reacted somewhat similar to this in a heated discussion with scum in a game that just ended recently. Boon you remember right?

Yeah. And he’s lurky as scum.

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Mumble, while you are right that some scum will avoid a lynch to avoid suspicion, they are perfectly satisfied with any lynch that isn't on scum. I would be pretty surprised if you are lynched, flip town, and no scum is on your wagon. This is especially true if lickety is scum because it is very important to them to swing the lynch in your direction. You saying "go ahead, lynch me" gives the an excuse to do so.

Boon, you said there's no way you're lynching lickety. I assume that means you have a strong town read. Can you explain why? (I see 659 now, but still want to know where the town read came from). Why isn't taco on your list for power role targets? He's been in my mind as a number one investigative target for most of the game (you're probably number two). Hypothetically speaking of course.

Yeah we get two wagons near a Lynch and all of a sudden naked/crappy votes are going on havo.i wonder why.

This is making me uneasy as well.

I just don’t feel tacos is scum. It’s far too different than his regular playstyle, which is town, but this just seems like town not in the gsm elite he usually is, if that makes sense.

I liked the style in how LQ was posting. I felt like he was at least attempting to scum hunt rather than act like he was scum hunting.

I’m lean town on acid.

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One thing that has given me a bit of pause on Mumble is he reacted somewhat similar to this in a heated discussion with scum in a game that just ended recently. Boon you remember right?

Yeah. And he’s lurky as scum.

To be fair, I wouldn’t say he’s lurky as town, though, just inactive when he isn’t caught up as town, like the one we played.

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I like Boon's set of posts

What do you like about them? They seem just like naked reads IMO.

Yeah, but he can tell I have reasoning behind all of them.

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I was referring to Mumble, not LUV.

I could ask the same question back. What makes you think Taco is scum rather than town with that playstyle? I just don’t see it as intentional, and I don’t see why tacos as scum would be like this.

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I still think I should be the lynch though. There's at least one scum trying to protect/town read me. Not sure who.

I don’t like this, though.

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I still think I should be the lynch though. There's at least one scum trying to protect/town read me. Not sure who.

I don’t like this, though.

Then vote me.

Okay.

VOTE: Mumble

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Don’t really need to converse on it anymore. He said he should be the lynch, so lynch him.

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I still think I should be the lynch though. There's at least one scum trying to protect/town read me. Not sure who.

I don’t like this, though.

Then vote me.

Okay.

VOTE: Mumble

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I think there’s a lot of circular reasoning going on.

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Because the last five pages or so was a whole lotta nothing.

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Because the last five pages or so was a whole lotta nothing.

By nothing, I mean it all could come from TvT, TVS, or SvS.

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So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

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So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

You don't think you would have been told if you're Loyal?

Looking way too into that right now.

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What's loyal? is that something new?

Yes, and no. It’s normal since April.

Basically Loyal modifier makes it so that actions only work on pro town win cons.

For example, a Loyal cop targeting a scum member would get No Result. Synergizes well with setups that can give potential roleblocks.

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I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

THE reaction test player. Why would the result make you think you're loyal? A loyal role should either get no result or get a result.

Oh, if I’m loyal, I know i’m Loyal, I just wasn’t full claiming.

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So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

You don't think you would have been told if you're Loyal?

Looking way too into that right now.

had to wait for me to ask that huh?

I mean, if I don’t have a guilty on you, I have an inno on you. So I think you gotta claim. :/

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Like, annoyingly this is a similar situation to Dunker and Mulch from booneytoonz 5, and if I claim mine, it’s easily faught against.

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oh of course it is. gotcha.

Man, I really want you to be town here, but I don’t think that’s the case. :/

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I’m not just looking for an answer, though. I 100% targeted you and have a potential guilty.

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If you’re Ascetic or a Commuter like you are semi hinting at, I may be able to move on from this.

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I’m a role cop. You want to change that Miller claim and play it off as a joke? I’ll allow that.

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Aight. He checks out guys. As y’all were.

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Yeah, sure.

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

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Scum killed on the wagon, which near guarantees scum to be off the wagon. They might have one one the wagon, but could potentially be an all town wagon.

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I’m not actually a role cop, by the way, let me WIFOM the scum team some more.

I repeat from earlier.

I’m Vanilla. Thoughts?

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I mean, by all means, Tchill can be vig shot. I’ve been part of a page 1 miller claim gambit and got a perfect scum victory that way.

I think Chill is probably telling the truth, though.

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I wouldn’t call what i’m doing as lying, as I make it incredibly obvious that when I do something like that, people can generally tell I’m reaction testing of some sorts.

And like you said, fortunately you’re town reading me. This is despite all that, so it’s not like I’m making it difficult for you to read me.

And I’m a bold player, Egg. But I know when I should re-evaluate, especially late game.

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Why can’t town be tunneled onto only one player?

Luv ain’t sloppy as scum.

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Uzi has posted a lot but has only pushed 1 player

Nice catch here. I didn't really notice this myself because, well, he was pushing me.

How is it a nice catch? Scum would actively only have one mislynch candidate on their books?

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LaLiars is dumb

the kind of lying boons doing isn't super helpful(mostly *because* he's so obvious about it) but it's definitely not innately bad

This.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73076

You can check this game out that just finished, where town was being hard mislynched and tunneled throughout Day 3 and Day 4, where I played similarly to I am here with multiple claims and what not to try and draw a night kill, I ended up being conf town Day 3, and I changed and faught mislynch targets tunnel off, and onto scum two days in a row.

(I also caught the last two scum in that game pretty convincingly, and then a SK went and killed me that night and swept the game from early game luck. )

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chill I didn't remember jack shit uzi had done but my reply was based on your reason

obviously skating by with 19 posts is super different than skating by 111 posts

At the same time, what’s to say he isn’t disinterested town who only really has a read on like one player? I’ve definitely had games like that.

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Luv is town.

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Mislynch targets deserve to be white knighted.

I redirect you to the game I linked where I was also town, and hardcore defended who I thought were mislynches.

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VOTE: Acid

I don’t actually scum read LQ, by the way. Was seeing who’d sheep.

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Sheep on both sides of whatever the counter to LQ would be. Acid fell hard.

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So I went on to LQ without scum reading him, because it was obvious that after how Tchill was, that there would be some fight against that, the wagon that emerged from that, was LUV, which is more likely to be town than scum because people sitting around will generally take the side that’s building rather than the one that’s established, because it’s less scummy on paper.

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do you actually townread luv or is that a reaction read too

I always let it be known when I’m reaction testing. If you have to ask, it’s not.

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I actually town read LUV.

Scum Luv ain’t sloppy, and it’s similar to how he played in a recent game where he was town, and I was scum. When he was active at least.

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Plus, people said he’s only pushed LQ, so what? He’s been doing stuff with town reads, which is POE’ing scumhunting.

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I actually town read LUV.

Scum Luv ain’t sloppy, and it’s similar to how he played in a recent game where he was town, and I was scum. When he was active at least.

game is similar boon is scum right

I said he's similar. This is a direct attempt at a discredit, rewording. I already posted a game where I myself was extremely similar, and I'm not similar here as I was there at all.

None of that is AI, sure, but I like seeing people's reactions to things.

So yeah, acid's scum.

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Nobody looks over things that they see as "face value". It's one of the things I abuse when I'm scum. Face value when I'm scum, I generally am correct, because as scum, I point out flawed logic in town, and pounce on what they should have done and mix it in with hypothetical situation wifom. I do this as town as well, but as scum, I would know the other player is town, generally, and because of said face value, I'm able to actually hide under that, and push harder, at face value, but that same scenario is different at, say, chest value.

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>strike through joke
>discredit

?_?

Yes, because although you put a strike in it, you still made a point of it to be seen and read, or else you wouldn't have posted it.

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I disagree.

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it looked like you didn't give a shit about what luv actually did just looked at the cases and opposed them

Pretty much this, actually. I agree with this. I don't care what Luv does, did, or will do. He's town. Solved.

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probably got a quick chuckle out of some people reading

This implies other people have read the thread, to get a quick chuckle out of it already, since the word got was used here, instead of probably will get. Likely means day talk with some scum buddy currently talking in it and keeping up with the thread.

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if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what

sounds like scum mad that they're caught out for reasons they think they shouldn't be caught out for.

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disagree with what

the first part?

the without going deeper part

yes.

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@Tchill - I'm Third Degree Boon'ing this guy. He got burned hard. You should give him some advice to help deal with that feeling. Also, I use you a lot to bring up my Third Degree Boon only because that was one of my favorite times I've done that sort of thing.

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disagree with what

the first part?

the without going deeper part

godammit I was really hoping I wasn't right the "caught for the wrong reasons" post was obvious from a mile away

also stupid

also wrong

That's not what I said at all, so again, you are rewording. I said it looks as if you are scum caught for the wrong reasons.

I don't think these are wrong reasons. These are the right reasons. You're just not happy about it.

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I don't mean for all things at face value

I just mean the particular things you pointed out in this particular game

i.e. only having one push the entire game

That's not true, though. He's pushed for people being town, which eliminates them as scum, if only temporarily. I have a town until I'm shown that they aren't town kind of play style, so I immediately am generally overall correct from the beginning of the game. If something rubs me the wrong way, or I need answers somewhere, I'll pry for them.

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I mean

if you're burning anyone it's yourself by making a fool out of yourself to the scumteam

(unless scum in which case uh

maybe gj? hopefully not)

If this ended up being the case, then that's great too. I'm generally nightkilled in games, so that keeps me going for a bit.

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if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what

sounds like scum mad that they're caught out for reasons they think they shouldn't be caught out for.

this is objectively a caught for the wrong reasons post

if you're going to search for stupid read reasons at least keep track :>

I disagree. I said it sounds like that's what you are. That's me just pointing out what that post looks like to me. I didn't even say that's what it was, just that it sounds like it. You're scum for all the other things I've stated.

I can ISO dive harder, if you want. I'm caught up on this game, it's not like I'm just now looking at what you're doing.

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I mean

two of then were stupid reasons(the joke, the tense on my response about the joke)
one of them was a reason that can only exists if you actually are, in fact, just trying to look at my alignment for the first time, given that it's existed all game(response to quick wagon / building luv wagon(
and then the last reason apparently isn't a reason I'm scum even though you posted saying that it looked like scum because of it)

am I missing anything

yeah, these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about, but added up, yeah, you're scum. The main thing was your positioning onto LUV mixed in with the timing.

This is added up on top of everything else you've brought forward this game.

On top of that, you are using the common scum defense of pushing an obvious town reading out there on your attacker while still attempting to discredit/put a potential scum read out at the same time. This is done by those "doubtful" anecdotes that you keep putting and laughing off as a joke or incredibly unlikely occurrence, which to me shows that you know my alignment to be town because you are feeling an incredible amount of pressure, but absolutely trying not to show it.

The Beauty of the Third Degree Boon.

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hi havo!

Hi Scum.

LMAO.

hi [wrong townie / excited wolf / boons partner(doubtful] !

if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what

sounds like scum mad that they're caught out for reasons they think they shouldn't be caught out for.

this is objectively a caught for the wrong reasons post

if you're going to search for stupid read reasons at least keep track :>

I mean

if you're burning anyone it's yourself by making a fool out of yourself to the scumteam

(unless scum in which case uh

maybe gj? hopefully not)

disagree with what

the first part?

the without going deeper part

godammit I was really hoping I wasn't right the "caught for the wrong reasons" post was obvious from a mile away

also stupid

also wrong

if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what

I actually town read LUV.

Scum Luv ain’t sloppy, and it’s similar to how he played in a recent game where he was town, and I was scum. When he was active at least.

game is similar boon is scum right

LaLiars is dumb

the kind of lying boons doing isn't super helpful(mostly *because* he's so obvious about it) but it's definitely not innately bad

you push my reasoning and posts as dumb/stupid/wrong, yet you are obviously feeling pressure now, and the defense I just mentioned is coming out hard. With all of this, mixed in with your play beforehand, by all means, you would have targeted me harder if you were town.

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what positioning onto luv

my vote?

*

Sure. You're in the Warlock position. You have the strings attached, and are fueling your demon, but LQ is the muscle and face of the operation.

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what positioning onto luv

my vote?

*

Sure. You're in the Warlock position. You have the strings attached, and are fueling your demon, but LQ is the muscle and face of the operation.

Buckle onto this, it's a natural thing for scum to do that makes them seem townie, because LQ will take the heat from a LUV lynch, and LUV will take the heat from a LQ lynch.

If it went longer, another scum likely would have pushed onto LQ causing for an exhibition Cock Fight between the Warlocks and their Demons, where the warlocks have no respect for the well being of their Roosters.

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With all of this, mixed in with your play beforehand, by all means, you would have targeted me harder if you were town.

what positioning onto luv

my vote?

*

Sure. You're in the Warlock position. You have the strings attached, and are fueling your demon, but LQ is the muscle and face of the operation.

VOTE: boonskiies

ctrlf vote

And this is exactly what scum would do NOW that I've said it. After saying that, town would dispute that they wouldn't go onto me after that, while scum would target.

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no I wasn't sure so I tested your reaction

the fact that you readily accepted my question means that you don't actually give a shit about your own case

the prosecution restd

Explain. I care a lot about my case, you are the one continuously stating that, not me. It's a mixture of all those little things, and then you doing exactly what scum basically has to to survive.

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LaLiars is dumb

the kind of lying boons doing isn't super helpful(mostly *because* he's so obvious about it) but it's definitely not innately bad

ON a Side Note,

LAL is not dumb, when you play on a site where it's strictly enforced by ALL townies, it's amazing how you no longer have to worry about if it's town doing dumb things or is it scum. Now a lie is also a scum slip. This site is not like that obviously. So it only makes things harder on town.

I agree. But I also stated that I don't believe I am lying when I do said things. I generally enforce LAL, but when it's actual lying. If it's obvious reaction test, fine, which is why I make mine obvious.

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you still haven't ctrlfd vote

it's fairly obvious what the problem is boon

If you are referring to my lack of voting in this game, that's generally a town tell on my part.

Ask anyone who knows me how aggressive and how many mislynch setup options I allow myself when I'm scum.

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hint: the fact that the only issue which seems to be of real significance to you, and at the very least more significant than any of your other problems with me, is my position on the luv wagon

and you don't actually know that I didn't vote luv

I have stated over and over why this is not true. "Only issue", I've given multiple.

I don't care if you voted Luv. It really didn't matter to me if a vote was there or not. It's why I said "Sure" in reference to your early thing and then added onto it. It's the positioning.

This also confirms me as mothafuckin'townBoon, because as scum I'm hyper aware.

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The fact that acid literally pushing that is a last ditch effort as scum.

@Havo - You want to see lying? Look at acid. Blatant misreps/rewording.

Also, looking into my ISO, you can clearly see other reasons.

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Now that mothafuckin'ConfTown Boon is out, my case is clear.

Something I've learned is as scum, it's really easy for circular reasoning to come out, so I'm trying not to enable scum in long drawn out conversations so they can wiggle out into a TvT like scenario.

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it's not your only issue but you literally generalized the other issues as "these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about"

and okay but if you just read through that to actually come to a conclusion then how the hell would you not note the lack of a vote

even moreso than just being significant it's probably the only thing about what I've done with luv I would actually agree looks scjmmy (the lack of a vote)

also if so

.

Sure, and a piece of hay straw isn't a house, but a straw house, is indeed, made of straw.

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Also, he's doing the thing I do as scum, where I argue that I'm technically right in situations, and you grasp onto that.

So, as town, break that and push that away. Mulch should have done that to me in Why's game.

But yeah, Acid like conf scum. Vigilante can shoot me if I'm wrong.


Or lynch me, and vigilante shoot Acid, lynch acid for sure if he lives.

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Replacing out. Gonna get banned from the toxicity if I stay. LOL

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Boon deserves our scrutiny for no other reason needed than the type of player he is. Let that sink in.

I win more scum games than anyone else on site right now, and I've had near 100% town reads Day 3/4 on in my recent town games.

Yeah, done here.

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Replacing out. Gonna get banned from the toxicity if I stay. LOL

I've only purposefully replaced out on site in one game. Been close sometimes, but only actually did it once. Best for me not to get toxic. I've been good as of late. This will be my last post.

(wasn't going to be at you, Acid, just letting you know that, lol.)

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Oh, it wasn't toxic yet. I'm replacing out so I myself don't get incredibly toxic, because I felt it coming. LQ was going to get it, and then I'd probably have death tunneled there.

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Cancel my Replace out

But I'm going to take a back seat for this game for a bit...

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clearly not what was said on any of that, so I've officially stopped caring about this game. if people would actually read my posts, then they'd see my reasoning for acid. Do whatever. when people are willing to comprehend it, ill eventually continue playing.

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VOTE: Boon

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told you Luv was town.

Unvote

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I’m back, stitches.

VOTE: Acid

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Why didn’t I like someone saying they should be the lynch? Why would I ever like that?

Sure, I say sometimes to lynch me, but I never think that’s what someone should do, even if I want out or to prove a point. That should never be what someone should do.

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Why was that even a question? Was it a question just for the sake of being a question?

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That’s what I was referring not liking, nothing else.

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I didn’t change the details of my result. I never officially gave. I hinted I might be loyal, but that wasn’t the case.

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If Egg is scum, he's doing a good job making it seem like he isn't to me. I expect him to be able to do that if he's scum, but it's working right now. I'm lean town with an asterisk.

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i wouldn't ever kill Egg right now from this ScumBoon perspective. I'd kill LQ.

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meant to have Egg's blurb at the end of mine quoted.

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I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.

Why at Tchill?

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I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.

If Acid does indeed flip town, then that post to me would look like LQ knew before hand that Acid would flip town. That being said, I hard scum read Acid.

Thing that got me was that he was stating he’d go after Tchill. That directly looks like a mislynch potential setup, and on top of that, “why not me?”

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I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.

If Acid does indeed flip town, then that post to me would look like LQ knew before hand that Acid would flip town. That being said, I hard scum read Acid.

Thing that got me was that he was stating he’d go after Tchill. That directly looks like a mislynch potential setup, and on top of that, “why not me?”

I find this interesting from both sides.

That is by design.

I’m a little weary of being night killed. I personally feel scum will think they’re better off right now with me alive, which is potentially true, so I would say, any protective roles out there, don’t target me. Let them kill me if they want. If I’m still here, they’ll have to deal with me, and possibly be forced to 1v1 me.

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it's about the whymaf miller thing

the tldr is whymafia wasn't a miller

I was in this game and was directly interacting with Why in that situation. He was playing around because I claimed SK, also page 1. It is no where near the same thing, but if you were just making a joke, then that’s fine.

[Boonskiies]

How have I used my "conftown status" for anything? None of my reads have absolutely changed after the fact. If anything some have been strengthened and weakened. My read of acid hasn't influenced anyone has far as I'm concerned. The acid wagon didn't gain real credibility until the back and forth between acid and boon. LQ why are you blaming this on me? Where's your proof?

That's why I made the posts I did at LQ.

I feel that acid should have picked up steam. It's a scum slot.

[Boonskiies]

hey mister skiies how aggressive and how many mislynch setup options do you allow urself when u'r scum

Well, I'm rather aggressive. I finished a game where I hard got into a 1v1 with Mulch Day 1, and got him lynched where I was scum, but I always have those mislynch setups working. I work with my team as scum moreso than a solo player, and then we take it from there generally. I'm good at associating myself with others when I'm scum, and generally my partners are actually unguessable through my actions, but everyone ties me in with people anyways, and I generally get town cred or get other people scum cased after flips.

[Boonskiies]

how so? would like an answer at some point but i get it if you want to wait for things

Basically, he's doing all the right things that hit my good vibes button, and I'm getting paranoid of being pocketed.

[Boonskiies]

And Egg, that's pretty hilarious...

[Boonskiies]

I think its at L-2 right now. Not sure if I want to vote Acid or not due to self hammer (which I think is a likely possibility).

I would self hammer in that situation as scum too. Keep info to a minimum. As town? Nah, that’s horrible.

[Boonskiies]

I would self hammer in that situation as scum too. Keep info to a minimum. As town? Nah, that’s horrible.

Eh, people still do it regardless.

I still think it’s worth seeing who chooses not to hammer. I very much believe Acid will flip scum, though, so I don’t think this is an issue.

[Boonskiies]

Eh, you’re only scum if Acid were to flip town. I don’t think you’re scum with Acid.

[Boonskiies]

If there’s a vig, I suggest LQ.

[Boonskiies]

I’m dying by scum tonight, or I’m conf town tomorrow. Good luck.

[Boonskiies]

Honestly I just want Scum to kill me.

It has been a rough week for me.

Who should I kill between shadd and Uzi? I'm dead tonight so we might as well get a consensus.

AtE. Why would scum ever kill you here?

Did you claim Vig?

Yeah, I think it's fine if you shoot Tchill, tbh. Miller claim will always have doubts, and is rough to have around, even if it's believed.

[Boonskiies]

I have to decide who to vig between Uzi and Shadd.

Absolutely not.

You shoot a claimed Miller.

[Boonskiies]

I'm still the more likely scum target. You have SK written all over you with that LUV/Shadd thing.

[Boonskiies]

I’m a Vanilla Cop. Tchill is not Vanilla from Night 1. Hard claiming it, not reaction testing.

I’ve been stating all game, “I’m Vanilla, thoughts?”. I never lied about that, I just didn’t say cop. I claimed I was a role cop, which Vanilla cop is a cop for a person’s roles, just not thoroughly like a role cop.

For reasons, I won’t out my second investigative target just yet.

[Boonskiies]

I’m a Vanilla Cop. Tchill is not Vanilla from Night 1. Hard claiming it, not reaction testing.

I’ve been stating all game, “I’m Vanilla, thoughts?”. I never lied about that, I just didn’t say cop. I claimed I was a role cop, which Vanilla cop is a cop for a person’s roles, just not thoroughly like a role cop.

For reasons, I won’t out my second investigative target just yet.

How do you explain that there were no NKs last night when we had a Doc die?

I feel like you are baiting a CC at this point if I am being honest.

I can’t explain it. That’s why I hard claimed.

[Boonskiies]

boonskiies, how do you feel about being wrong on acid?

lalendra, what made you confident quickety wasn't the vig at the end of yesterday?

remember, i'm the frontier reaction test player on site

I was wrong, but I feel like we can go back and look at why I was wrong, and analyze from there.

[Boonskiies]

I’m a Vanilla Cop. Tchill is not Vanilla from Night 1. Hard claiming it, not reaction testing.

I’ve been stating all game, “I’m Vanilla, thoughts?”. I never lied about that, I just didn’t say cop. I claimed I was a role cop, which Vanilla cop is a cop for a person’s roles, just not thoroughly like a role cop.

For reasons, I won’t out my second investigative target just yet.

How do you explain that there were no NKs last night when we had a Doc die?

I feel like you are baiting a CC at this point if I am being honest.

If I was baiting a counterclaim, there would be no reason to claim Vanilla Cop over something else. I’m pretty sufficient with fake claiming, and being able to explain/create things while scum. I literally hard softed my role from my first post in this game.

[Boonskiies]

Like, I’m actually town. I understand how it looks. Considering I got a night 2 Result, and LQ was a claimed vig with stated targets, I feel like one of the people he mentioned he was looking into shooting are probably scum, and he got roleblocked, and then scum killed a Bp/commuter of some sort.

[Boonskiies]

I have to decide who to vig between Uzi and Shadd.

At least one of these are probably scum.

[Boonskiies]

You shooting me isn’t a SK move here. That’s a town vig.

[Boonskiies]

Why did you choose to target tchill, Boon? I recall you town reading him on Day 1.

Because I’m paranoid of being pocketed by people I enjoy playing with/have a decent amount of experience with. It also gives away who I targeted last night in that case.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah, I have mistaken bad town for scum. I think that’s fairly common.

i meant specifically saying "scummy" meaning "bad town" (or "bad if town")

Like, I'm actually town. I understand how it looks.

how does it look?

I tunneled a townie to a mislynch, got vig shot, didn’t die, and then claimed a role that didn’t explain it.

Why he chose to shoot me over a miller claim baffles me, though.

[Boonskiies]

I guess he could be a SK who no killed, but I’m not going to go down that road. I still think it likely comes from town making bad shots.

[Boonskiies]

I guess he could be a SK who no killed, but I’m not going to go down that road. I still think it likely comes from town making bad shots.

This also implies LQ is a BP SK who no killed and was shot by scum, who thought he was a vig.

[Boonskiies]

Actually, I think he is just a SK, not BP, after thinking about it. I’m a vanilla cop, I would get a vanilla Result on him, where if he’s a vigilante, I’d get a not vanilla. I should have investigated there instead of where I did, but I didn’t think of that as a possibility before the no kills. That means there is likely a BP/JK somewhere. Or potential commuter.

[Boonskiies]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

I have temporarily. There was a game I put him as my top town read Day 1, and then pages later derailed him down and caught him out as scum, then called out a partner of his for busing him, who just happened to be Carcalilly busing, who then got vig shot, effectively catching two scum Day 1. So if I have misread him, I fixed it. I’m town reading him here, but I am pretty paranoid.

[Boonskiies]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

I have temporarily. There was a game I put him as my top town read Day 1, and then pages later derailed him down and caught him out as scum, then called out a partner of his for busing him, who just happened to be Carcalilly busing, who then got vig shot, effectively catching two scum Day 1. So if I have misread him, I fixed it. I’m town reading him here, but I am pretty paranoid.

Ah. I'm assuming that's fairly recent?

How many times have you read him correctly though? I ask because I'm not sure if the fear of being pocketed outweighs being able to read someone correctly at a high clip.

Fairly. Games and games ago. Fair enough. To be honest, it’s not enough. But it’s just a general problem I have with my town game is being pocketed due to my relationship with another player.

ZZZX got me good once because I town read him, was paranoid, but let me friendly relationship with him drop my paranoia of him, and I reverse POE’d.

[Boonskiies]

Luv, you play scum similar to how I do, it seems, and I’m growing increasingly paranoid of you for multiple reasons. The main reason is everything you are doing seems to come from a good mindset, looks like logical good posting, yet there isn’t any reason to scum read you or town read you if you delve deeper, but it looks like it’s really good posting. It’s similar, yet not in a heated way, as Mulch vs Boon in Why’s game. Mulch had the correct read on me, but there was no real reason that he could explain for it, thus my posting made logical sense and he couldn’t push it further without seeming scummy.

[Boonskiies]

boonskiies, how do you feel about being wrong on acid?

lalendra, what made you confident quickety wasn't the vig at the end of yesterday?

remember, i'm the frontier reaction test player on site

I’m going to go back to this now.

I’m not sorry that I lynched Acid. I thought he was scum. He was incredibly scummy to me, and I posted a bunch of reasons why I thought he was scum. Was I upset when he flipped vanilla townie, and I realized I was wrong? Of course, but it happens. Because of the flip, I am now able to analyze who took advantage of my scum read on Acid, who awkwardly opposed it, and then what was happening around it. eEven though it was a mislynch, and I was wrong, there’s still a lot to get out of it, and we can use that failure to succeed this time around.

[Boonskiies]

how do u feel about mr. quickety shooting u

I’ve explained that the fact he didn’t shoot the claimed miller is pretty bad. I could see it coming from town vig making a bad shot, but with everything else, i take back what I said on the town vig over SK shot. It makes a lot of sense as a SK shot, which also synergizes with me being a Vanilla Cop, because he’s likely Vanilla Serial Killer, and then there’s a BP or commuter elsewhere. I do very much think he’s a SK, though.

[Boonskiies]

Like I said before. I think he no killed.

[Boonskiies]

I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?

I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

You don't think you would have been told if you're Loyal?

Looking way too into that right now.

I’m not just looking for an answer, though. I 100% targeted you and have a potential guilty.

If you’re Ascetic or a Commuter like you are semi hinting at, I may be able to move on from this.

I’m a role cop. You want to change that Miller claim and play it off as a joke? I’ll allow that.

I’m not actually a role cop, by the way, let me WIFOM the scum team some more.

I repeat from earlier.

I’m Vanilla. Thoughts?

Look at this all with the fact that I’m a vanilla cop.

I started my Tchill thing knowing I had a not vanilla Result, and my loyal gambit was to see if I could get him to claim Ascetic or commuter, so then I could state I had a Result, and he was lying.

[Boonskiies]

is there some joke the rest of us aren't in on regarding SK

I don’t get how it’s a joke. I don’t understand why people just auto assume there isn’t going to be a SK in a game. Literally a Large Normal SK was able to coast to a victory after none of the first few kills went through and mafia got wrecked super early, and gunsmith inno cleared SK.

I brought up the idea of there being a SK there, and got killed because of it. I brought up the idea of there being a SK here, and almost got killed for it.

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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

Oh, I also did this.

[Boonskiies]

That is also why you are a SK and not a vigilante.

[Boonskiies]

You kept quoting that ctrl F thing, but I really didn’t care where his vote was. That was one of those little things Acid was pushing that I really didn’t care about as a reason.

[Boonskiies]

It makes no sense Boon goes after Acid instead of Chill.

It makes no sense why a vig wouldn’t shoot a claimed miller.

I thought Acid was scum. If Tchill is scum, he knows how to deal with me now.

[Boonskiies]

Notice how he doesn’t even comment on the undeniable crumbs that I am indeed a vanilla cop.

My alignment might be in question right now, but I will flip town, so before that happens, let’s make a game plan for afterwards if we go through with that.

[Boonskiies]

2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3

i am rather% sure someone has pointed this out.

Well, fuck me, right?

Whatever, LQ just made a terrible waste of his last shot then, since he claimed 2 shot.

[Boonskiies]

I’m obviously town this game, by the way. That was a classic Boon tunnel on acid. I crumbed my role correctly. My gambit with Tchill makes no sense coming from a scum perspective. I feel like you see this Schadd.

I’ll out my second Result now.

Egg is vanilla.

@Luv - yet another player who i was town reading yet stated my paranoia of.

[Boonskiies]

2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3

i am rather% sure someone has pointed this out.

Well, fuck me, right?

Whatever, LQ just made a terrible waste of his last shot then, since he claimed 2 shot.

You're avoiding why you are not dead.

How? I’ve already explained that stuff. If I was scum, I’d have fake claimed something to get me out of it and have a buddy of mine to claim something to back me up.

[Boonskiies]

You’re a claimed vig who stated two targets you were going to shoot. At least one of them are scum, which means you were roleblocked. Please have some common sense.

Like I’ve stated this.

[Boonskiies]

I’m obviously town this game, by the way. That was a classic Boon tunnel on acid. I crumbed my role correctly. My gambit with Tchill makes no sense coming from a scum perspective. I feel like you see this Schadd.

I’ll out my second Result now.

Egg is vanilla.

@Luv - yet another player who i was town reading yet stated my paranoia of.

Now you are trying to distract the suspicion on you by trying to change the topic of discussion.

No, you’re just terrible. I’m trying to distract people? By giving my results, and trying to help people see me as town? What am I changing the discussion of? I’ve explained and responded to everything.

You compromised on Acid. If you town read him, stick to your damn guns. Fuck.

[Boonskiies]

You’re a claimed vig who stated two targets you were going to shoot. At least one of them are scum, which means you were roleblocked. Please have some common sense.

Like I’ve stated this.

Than why did you say you thought I didn't shoot? You think I lie like that as Town?

This doesn’t even make fucking sense. Read the god damn post. Where the fuck did I say you lied? You flat out said you were going to shoot luv or schadd. One of them at least are scum meaning they obviously thought they had a chance of getting killed. Now look at the two of them on the sidelines of this reaping the benefits of a TvT. One of them is scum.

[Boonskiies]

Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,

[Boonskiies]

My gambit with Tchill makes no sense coming from a scum perspective.

how so?

How was it at all beneficial to scum? Look how potentially beneficial it could have been as Town. Look at my Ascetic/commuter comment knowing I had a not vanilla Result on him, and that I had basically stated I was loyal with a no result on him.

[Boonskiies]

There is no reason to stop pushing him if he claimed miller and I was scum there,

[Boonskiies]

im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.

[Boonskiies]

Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,

This is manipulative as shit.

If I was scum, sure, but I’m not.

That’s just a get your fucking shit together post, which you’re going to fail to realize yet again.

Like this isn’t even on me. This is on you. I’m clearly fucking town at this point, and you’re allowing scum to hop onto it. Explain to me why LUV/schadd doesn’t make sense as at least one scum, even though you stated them as your vig shots last night. Like what part of you is forcing you to actively avoid that?

[Boonskiies]

im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.

K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?

Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.

[Boonskiies]

And there could be an alignment cop in this game.

[Boonskiies]

And there could be an alignment cop in this game.

They shouldn’t claim right now if this is true, obviously, but don’t assume there isn’t one.

[Boonskiies]

Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,

This is manipulative as shit.

Also, with this fucking shit, you made a fucking thread about this kind of thing, yet fail to even have a sense that it could possibly be happening again. Holy fuck, get off your high horse.

[Boonskiies]

If you are to believe I’m scum, you’d have to believe that i setup my Vanilla cop claim from my first post instead of claiming the much better potential role in Neapolitan, which is known that I like Neapolitan as a role much better than Vanilla Cop, and actively crumbed it throughout the game. My gambits even make sense with that in mind.

If you seriously think I’m scum here, you need to re-evaluate how you play.

[Boonskiies]

im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.

K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?

Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.

Considering this is Carc game, I don't think this is likely.

And there could be an alignment cop in this game.

Yeah, which is why I think you claimed vanilla cop - to draw out the real cop claim.

This is fucking bullshit. I have shown that I was crumbing Vanilla Cop before the miller claim. Why the hell would I expect there to be a real cop then?

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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

Oh, I also did this.

Like, really? You’re going to say I planned on a miller claiming after posts like this, and then claimed vanilla cop, after all this, to try and out a real cop? Why the fuck would claiming Vanilla Cop out a real cop in the first place? That doesn’t even counter claim a real cop. I even stated that an alignment cop shouldn’t claim if they exist.

[Boonskiies]

im A vanilla cop; I can see miller making sense with just that.

K, so why would a mod put a vanilla cop in the game with a miller?

Named townie, not vanilla Result. There’s likely at least one goon as well. It’s a softer form of godfather, gunsmith/doctor.

Considering this is Carc game, I don't think this is likely.

And there could be an alignment cop in this game.

Yeah, which is why I think you claimed vanilla cop - to draw out the real cop claim.

This is fucking bullshit. I have shown that I was crumbing Vanilla Cop before the miller claim. Why the hell would I expect there to be a real cop then?

So why aren't you voting Chill? Why did you go after Acid D2 instead of Chill?

I’ve explained this so many times. You really need to read the game more clearly. Acid was incredibly scummy to me, and I got in a 1v1 there. Why would I go after Tchill? I didn’t scum read him. He passed my gambit successfully as well. I had nothing to go after him for. I was paranoid, but that’s common with a miller claim. That’s really the only reason I would push him further. So I judged off play.

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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

Oh, I also did this.

Like, really? You’re going to say I planned on a miller claiming after posts like this, and then claimed vanilla cop, after all this, to try and out a real cop? Why the fuck would claiming Vanilla Cop out a real cop in the first place? That doesn’t even counter claim a real cop. I even stated that an alignment cop shouldn’t claim if they exist.

You could be vanilla cop as Scum.

Sure. But you are tunneled.

Say this to yourself but replace scum with town. Just look that over. Please. We have to stop this.

[Boonskiies]

I’m not exactly sure why you even scum read me, but why can’t that just be Town who poorly tunneled another townie, something you yourself have stated you know you have a problem with doing.

[Boonskiies]

I lead the mislynch on Acid. I’ll, take the blame for that. I felt that Acid was scummy, so I pushed there. You are doing the same thing to me now,

[Boonskiies]

BECAUSE HE’S A FUCKING CLAIMED MILLER. do you not understand basic mafia concepts?

WIFOM in it’s own right means it can be said by either town or scum. That’s why it is WIFOM...

[Boonskiies]

Ascetic/miller claims, you shoot, vengefuls you lynch in lylo or before. Same with miller/Ascetic, but vigilantes are the best to get rid of the anti town roles.

[Boonskiies]

I’m not exactly sure why you even scum read me, but why can’t that just be Town who poorly tunneled another townie, something you yourself have stated you know you have a problem with doing.

I haven't said I have a problem tunneling.

Besides, I am still coming up with reasons for why you could be Scum.

You made a thread about tunneling and not being able to re-evaluate your reads as town on your other account...

Okay, how about this?

You come up with reasons I could be scum, then come up with reasons why I could be town. On all of your scum reasonings, ask yourself, could he just have done this as town? And all your town reasons, ask if it makes sense to do that as scum.

Because I don’t know what to tell you at this point to help you read me correctly. I’m doing everything I can, and if I flip, I’m going to flip town, and all these WIFOM posts/not crumbs you have stated by me immediately become 100% true that they were crumbs, and that it wasn’t even WIFOM.

[Boonskiies]

And you yet again didn’t post on my Vanilla Cop crumb from day 1. You asked for them, then said “you could be a scum vanilla cop.”

Sure, but I’m a town vanilla cop, and I have no idea why that doesn’t even seem to be an option for you.

[Boonskiies]

We are the epitome of TvT.

[Boonskiies]

If you mislynch me, you need to take responsibility for this, because I am doing everything I can to try and help you read me correctly, and you are actively choosing not to take it in.

[Boonskiies]

Say it’s manipulative as hell, but if I flip, you are proven 100% wrong, and it will confirm that there was absolutely nothing else I could do to help you read me.

What do you want me to do, LQ?

Pretend I flipped already, and we’re in the future. What would you have wanted me to do this day phase to help you read me correctly? As town, scum hunting isn’t the only thing you’re supposed to do, you’re also supposed to make sure other townies can read you correctly, and I am desperately trying to make you see that I am town.

[Boonskiies]

You also tried to get me to explain the no kill. I’m town. I can’t explain it, because I can’t be sure what happened. There are plenty of things that could have happened, and the fact that you somehow scum read me because of it doesn’t make sense,

You were an outed Vigilante, who claimed you were looking to shoot within Luv/Schadd. Easily could have been roleblocked in that case.

If I was scum and had protection, why would I be the one protected in that case? It didn’t look like I was going to be shot at.

If I was BP or the like, why would I have been crumbing Vanilla Cop?

This isn’t WIFOM; I actually want you to answer these questions. You don’t have to do it in thread, but at least ask it to yourself.

Occam’s razor, dude.

[Boonskiies]

I am willing to vote Acid.

The things is tho, that if Acid flips Town, I will then be directing my attention toward Chill.

Yet another reason to have shot at Tchill, and was expected of it. The logical vig targets were Tchill, Luv, and Schadd, just based on the way you were playing. If either of them were scum, it would be enough to be afraid of your vig shot. I have no clue how this at all makes you lean scum on me and just forget about them.

[Boonskiies]

Logical in the sense by people trying to figure out where you were going to shoot.

[Boonskiies]

It’s because my reaction testing/stunt pulling typically end up leading towards me actually catching scum, if only in post mordem sometimes. There’s a reason I get night killed often, and one of my biggest worries when I’m scum is making it to super late game, like Day 5 status because when I’m town, people generally expect me to solve the game by or around then completely.

[Boonskiies]

Also, roleblocker is a pretty common role.

Assuming we have 4 or more town pr’s, we have a miller and a vig with a vanilla cop claim, so yes, there’s likely at least two more PR’s, means scum likely have 1 goon, and two pr’s. If they had more than one goon, then vanilla cop gets effectively two soft false innos.

Town in mini normals have been getting like 5 or 6 pr’s per game lately.

There was a doctor flip already, as well. So there’s likely one or two more hidden town pr’s.

[Boonskiies]

LQ - vig
Boon - v cop
Tchill - miller
Egg - vanilla

[Boonskiies]

Mm...Havo looks like he’s busing a buddy. He said nearly exactly what I said. That being said, he’s also stated a town read on me the majority of the game, after a null read.

LQ, I agree for the most part with your reads list besides Schadd.

I really want to believe Tchill is town, but the miller claim keeps me super paranoid.

He wouldn’t have been told anything.

Also, LQ, mind if I don’t claim the modifier? If I have more shots, I can potentially get get more results. If I don’t, scum might kill me and waste a night kill on a used up pr.

[Boonskiies]

Why is Schadd a town read for you?

[Boonskiies]

I do agree with ScumLuv, though.

[Boonskiies]

Are there any traitor crumbs somewhere? Scum might actually have a traitor if that’s the route he chose to go. I don’t understand why it couldn’t have just been regular scum bp over traitor.

[Boonskiies]

If the traitor role is a variant role, then that could mean that scum recruited their traitor last night and role blocked LQ.

[Boonskiies]

Egg can’t be a potential traitor, but it might make sense if Tchill is in this case.

[Boonskiies]

Traitor roleblocker maybe?

[Boonskiies]

It would also explain why he chose to claim miller, because as traitor, that’s not a bad idea. That could have tipped scum off too.

[Boonskiies]

Town deserves to lose.

VOTE: Boon

[Boonskiies]

Angry I just spent like 10minutes reading Tchill’s iso in depth for this terrible shit to come back.

[Boonskiies]

Why is Schadd a town read for you?

I liked what he did at the begging of this day phase a lot. Didn't seem like he was faking Scum hunting - looked pretty legit IMO.

P-Edit

You just slipped Boon.

If its a regular Scum BP then that makes you Scum.

VOTE: Boon

LQ just has no common sense and jumps to conclusions. This game isn’t fun for me and I refuse to continue playing as is. Im done with basically conf town misrepping me every single god damn post because they are too ignorant to actually read.

1) I specifically stated that I didn’t understand why LUV specifically wouldn’t just state scum BP instead of bp traitor.
2) I clearly stated I think there’s a roleblocker in this game.

I’m seriously done with LQ’s ignorance. I just can’t do this anymore.

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I have literally replaced out of 1 game on this site, and I’m about to replace out again because I seriously can’t deal with this ignorance without getting toxic.

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It’s not regular bp, which was your whole case there, it’s a roleblocker of some sort.

The actual “slip” is a LUV slip, not mine. You are just too ignorant to be able to comprehend that. And it’s not a LUV slip, it’s just he got caught out through that,

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Also, the scum team is LUV, Havo, and Tchill. Don’t sign up for games I’m in or I will vote you until you’re dead from games here on out.

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Last part was to LQ. His ignorance is PLable due to how much of a reliability he is due to ignorance,

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Also, the scum team is LUV, Havo, and Tchill. Don’t sign up for games I’m in or I will vote you until you’re dead from games here on out.

Nope.

There’s a small room for error in there, but I named at least two scum in there.

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Tchill’s been semi buddying Havo indirectly all game, so there’s a chance Havo might not be scum. I’d probably through Status in there in that case, due to not having a lot of info on him/POE, with a chance of it being Schadd. But I wouldn’t look into them until a little after. Havo could still just be saying nope because I got one of the three wrong, though.

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VOTE: Luv

Luv’s bp traitor instead of just bp shows to me that he’s scum with informed knowledge of traitor, because there’s no other reason to state that otherwise.

LQ repeated this as a reason technically when he targeted me, but he’s too ignorant to even see what it actually is.

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Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case to explain the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.

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Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case to explain the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.

This effectively proves that I can’t be scum bp unless I’m the traitor, which contradicts LQ’s reasoning.

But yeah, I’m probably blacklisting LQ after this game. He doesn’t even attempt to understand things. I can handle tunneling town, which is why I’m fine with players like Mulch and WhyMafia, but when they continuously go back and forth and don’t even consider elsewise, it’s not okay. It’s why I blacklisted RC for a long time. Every single game no matter what he would death tunnel me. Generally he can’t get me lynched, but nonetheless, every single time he did it, I was town. He never failed to death tunnel me. I played with him on an alt, and he said I was his hero because I was game solving, proving that he just had a death tunnel out for me, subconsciously.

I don’t tolerate that kind of thing.

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Also, LQ slipped over the fact that scum’s kill was missing too, and we already had a doctor flip, so town likely doesn’t have anyway to block kills other wise, so traitor fits in that case

to explain

the missing no kill, alongside a Roleblock on LQ.

Nope

Terrible, and is t really anything to nope.

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Why would scum go out of their way to explain the no kill in this scenario Boon?

Exactly. I’m the one explaining the no kill in this scenario.

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Then why you’re accusing me of doing it?

I’m not. I’m stating that there was no reason to assume traitor there without there actually being a traitor.

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To be fair, LQ might be skewing my ability to game solve.

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But I stand by my 2/3 statement.

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Like, I’m not having fun with this game. LQ should know by now how to play. He has a 2015 join date, and that’s ridiculous that even new players have a grasp on things better than he does.