Large Normal 206: World Record Mafia! (GAME OVER)

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TIAM.


THANK YOU.

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only maf should be upset with tiam rn, really. i'd act the same as tiam if i was vig

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we lynch nero. i'll check this later. hopefully more nero votes

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Why isn't Nero lynched let

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Titus would you like to lynch the mafia known as Nero?

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nero is guilty of his crimes to humanity.

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nah we get nero.

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i trust you, even if you are SK you know maf could kill you eventually so you need to shoot maf.

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eddie whats your main account

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mary wanna do us a favor and vote nero?

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nero is x42r525453245 times worse than flairs

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lynch nero, vig dunk plz

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i have no guilty, ftr. but nero is maf.

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someone just hammer

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oh my god. just lynch nero

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VOTE: flairs w.e

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:v

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this is why we shoulda just lynched nero. this day is turning to shit

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vote flair lol

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i dont even remember how much it is to haammer, but someone just vote lol. end this day

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nice update. someone lolhammer

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then vig nero or massive idc.

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VOTE: mary soatome

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i double dog dare you, dunker

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if you dont have a vote. do you even exist

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so uh. did dunk die protecting someone? i wonder who

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you're getting 0 results from me. you can vote me if you like to. i clearly pushed dunk into hammering mafia though

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isnt kid a PR we should wait for his result. i think i'm perfectly fine with massive tho being the lynch

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i dont care anymore. It should be obvious i'm town because of my hammer on Game and me pushing Dunk to hammer flairs without a claim.

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you're bad at mafia if you think i'm mafia after both of those.

i'll wait for kid's results

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Don't give up on flavor!

VOTE: Massive

I think mafia targeted Dunk because he was unlikely to be protected.

@Kid - Your gunsmith result on Two?

confused. doesnt gunsmith get a guilty on vigs?

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ah, gotcha. thanks

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i dont care anymore. It should be obvious i'm town because of my hammer on Game and me pushing Dunk to hammer flairs without a claim.

Game wasn't really even playing, and Flairs was going down hard.

lol

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Give me two reasons why there's town advantage to not claiming and risk never having them outed.

because i'm obvious fuvcking town. i shouldnt have to claim lol. if i had anything to incriminate someone, i'd have outed it. me outing does nothing for us

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The only thing that makes sense to me right now is that you are vanilla town. You don't seem like a dumb player. But I've been wrong before.

ok i'm VT. pls dont kill me maf

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VOTE: massive

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O ok

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Ok VOTE: dave

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Lynch dave and vig Mario if that flips scum

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Who cares. Just get this day over with lol

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just vote dave

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mario just vote dave.

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I double dog dare you to hammer

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fkin skirt skirt or twomillion get an avi, it looks like the same person talking to themselves

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ok everyone, i'm gonna win this game for us. just sit back and look pretty while i tell everyone what to do so we have auto win

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wait first, how many maf is usually in a 21 player game?

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okay i'm just gonna guess 5 since i saw 4 in a 17 player game.

OK so.

1. skirt skirt - ???
8. TwoInAMillion - cleared by GS and is vig
10. massive - ???
13. KidAmn - gunsmith
15. wavemode - Backup gunsmith
16. Yumeko Jabami - Can jailkeep and clear someone tonight
17. Mary Soatome -???
18. Gerryoat - Jack of All TOWNS- obv town.
20. Titus - Cleared by GS

If we assume the PRs are all real.

This is the proper day actions

1.) We lynch Massive
2.) We have Vig kill Mary
3.) We have Jailkeeper jail skirt skirt
4.) We have Kid check Yumeko.

This will bring us auto. Trust me fams

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gerry check your role pm it should tell you how many scum partners you have

if you think i'm mafia you're bad at this game. and should prob just quit the site now cause there is no more hope for you.

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what happens if maf kills vig. does vig get their shot off too or no? i know in EM it doesnt, wasnt sure here

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wave im sorry for that comment, it was uncalled for lol. but, really i'm obvious town by now. now get with the program so we can have auto win. wont matter who dies if we do that sequence of actions, i just realized

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everyone will be clear but me/wave i believe and we would still have either a GS check or another vig shot (OR BOTH). so it would be auto loss for me

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also i'm obvious town, i hammered a maf and pressured 2 people into hammering maf without claims

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I actually don't buy waves claim for a second. Gerry do you have anything useful for us at all?

yes, giving town a win

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even if wave is fake, he loses tomorrow with that sequence.

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also i'm obvious town, i hammered a maf and pressured 2 people into hammering maf without claims

By that logic so am I.

quote where you pressured people into hammering on L1 with no claim on both maf

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If we are methodical we should be okay. Scum are likely in massive-yumeko-titus

titus is clear from GS unless you think there are 2 maf docs

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gerry check your role pm it should tell you how many scum partners you have

if you think i'm mafia you're bad at this game. and should prob just quit the site now cause there is no more hope for you.

oh lol

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why are you doing my plan of actions but making it worse. stop that

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This is the proper day actions

1.) We lynch Massive
2.) We have Vig kill Mary
3.) We have Jailkeeper jail skirt skirt
4.) We have Kid check Yumeko.

Do all 3 parties involved agree to this: twomillion, Kid, Yumeko?

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hmmm interesting observation from you. i am the jack of all towns.

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ffs then who would you want to jailkeep?

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i mean who would we vig* im stupid lol

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twomillion would you vig skirt?

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For auto.

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Really it's up to million. Would you rather vig Mary or skirt

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We just need a plan

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Has Yumeko's jailkeep actually been proven?

That doesn't matter. Cause it'll be auto anyway

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Why would we shoot a potential jk when we can check him

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This is the actions for today/tonight. I think wave/kid are both town right now.

1.) We lynch Massive
2.) We have Vig kill skirt
3.) We have Jailkeeper jail Mary
4.) We have Kid check Yumeko.

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Say we lynch wrong. Going into a day 7 if he's conf town it's auto

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Do you think there is anyway I'm scum, skirt?

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Any way*

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Let me think about this a bit and I'll be back

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If we're taking vig pref out of those 3

Gerry > you > Yumeko for me

Titus is just wrong I'd be really really shocked if Yumeko was scum and would have to re consider a lot of my meta on her

The fuck. I was your top townread.

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Also I'm Jack of all towns.

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Tomorrow I'll do the critical thinking needed to have a perfect plan. But can someone tell me if we vig yukemo will the roleblock for that night still go through?

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Catching up but Gerry is on my no lynch list

why

I don't think you know me but in the games I've played as scum you're much more smooth and slick as scum and even with the pressure on you (so it seems) your annoyance feels real to me and I don't think you'd keep up this cocky altitude

Game replacement was the IgnitionUSMC slot and I wanna take a look at the Gerry wagon given that wagon fell short so fast makes it more likely to be town I don't know why the GR wagon went so fast it makes me scared but I do sr the slot so
VOTE: Game replacement

I think the past 20 pages are going to be some of the most telling.
Pedit: Didn't most of the Two mill voters go onto the counter wagons?

Hm not really shocked at the una flip Gerry and Yumeko are even more town then before I think only 1 of Mario/osuka is scum here because I don't think una needs to soft to 2 of his partners given he knows if we ever flipped him we'd read him.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Why are you willing to lynch Nero but not Vig him

Why is Mary hard defending Nero

Did she do this for anyone else this game

Because this game feels pretty solved to me it's just about getting people to actually follow my lead. Plus Nero's in my 3 never lynch pile of Gerry and Yumeko and him.

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Yeah I'll do the thinking tomorrow. Kinda tired and got other things to do before I sleep. But I'm pretty sure we win this. Unless maf kills me >.>

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That post made me physically ill.

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I'm more town than anyone in this game. Osuka and Nero were bad towns. But I was right on everyone else.

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Wait. I forgot to bring this up. Did we ever get an answer about if the BP bodyguard protects someone is their vest hit or do they die

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gerry, regardless of the rest, you have to know that the mafia killing you as opposed to kidamn or tiam is GOOD for town, right?

Or is it. I'm Jack of all towns

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Wut the hell is the point of having a bp enabler with a strong arm.

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Why not kill boon then and save their strongman shot

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I'm pretty sure they rolecopped me n1. After n2 with no encrypted I'm not sure flairs was able to tell them the 2nd report

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Mary why do you tr yukemo

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I love pretending I don't know what I did as scum.

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holy shit you guys are stupid. why can't you just listen to me, and we had auto win

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it was better than vigging obvious town

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im just gonna assume that maf has a redirector

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ok i got an idea, but i need to hear kidamn's report first

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no cause he didnt SR wave i dont think

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If we are methodical we should be okay. Scum are likely in massive-yumeko-titus

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also why the hell did you guys rush the end of day when ppl were outing different things to do.

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i'm pretty sure we still have autp win, with the idea i'm thinkng regardless of reports. as long as there isnt 2 maf and i dont see why there should be 2 mafs left.

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Me
Titus
Kid
Yume
Mary
Skirt

^ not in any order, just need to see something for what i have an idea of

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its either scum gerry

if you think i'm scum this game you need to go back to newbie games

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Oh i'm also Jack of all TOWNS, the towniest of towns that could town in a small town of townies

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a bus driver is not the same as a deflector right?

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skirt i dont have time for your BS rn please. i'm trying to think of an auto win scenario since you guys messed it up already.

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acually im not sure of deflector. cause why not just kill kidamn? why kill the back up?

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tiam might have just fucked up somehow. idk. is there a role where if someone shoots you, you can redirect it to someone else?

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i had something like that in WWE maf, but i think that was considered role madness.

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Nope, we have auto win. Depending on kidamn's report. you're welcome

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dont worry about that. just wait for the report.

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also please dont quick lynch, even if there is a guilty. trust me

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oh stfu

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if i was scum i wouldnt have given us autowin. (if you guys didnt screw it up like idiots)

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i'll bbl, hopefully kid and yume post by then

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if i get lynched this game after i pushed people into hammering mafs without them claiming, then town deserves to lose lol. and titus, why do you think kid. i wanna hear the rational

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ok so this is what we do for auto win. i have 0 reason to believe kid is maf here, because i dont see why we have a back up GS without a GS. unless maf GS but that makes no sense setup wise.

We NL here.

That will leave us with 5 people.

Kid/Yumeko dies.

So we will have:

Kid/yumeko
Titus
Me
Skirt
Mary

tomorrow.

Then, we lynch in the unclears. Which is me/Skirt

so then the next night Yumeko can use his RB on me/skirt or Kid can have a GS report. either way, it's autowin. my math is correct right? if we lynch today, we cant do that process cause of the odd night

Yumeko if you're really odd night you should be fine with this.

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^ lol

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my math is correct right? honestly we were stupid for even having vig shoot. but i didnt think you guys would go against my autowin plan so i didnt think that was necessary

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regardless of if you think it's autowin or not (it is) we have a cc in 2 people instead of possibly 3 (or more)

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if GS dies after NL the people with no gun are clear. if RB dies, then skirt is clear. and we have an extra report

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Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

this is all you need to know that i am town lol.

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and is there any role that can like, hide a gun? i mean i know doctors cant have it and traitors. so i dont think 2 mafs would have that too.

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Mary if you're somehow town, you will recieve worst town award after this game. i sadly have no reason to believe you are scum though. which is sad.

Why are you against autowin tho? lol

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like say if i get lynched and yumeko dies. literally NO ONE is clear. do you understand that (and what if there are somehow 2 mafs left)? This way, we have a confirmed clear somehow

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i agree with that

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i dont think it's unlimited. or i see no reason for a jailkeeper

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there is still an off chance of 2 mafs, as unlikely as it seems. so NL is the safest route. (unless there is 2 mafs and 1 has a vig of some sort, but i think that's considered bastard i'm not good with those things)

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gerryoat there is a pretty big flaw in this plan, actually. There's no reason for mafia to kill at 4 people alive if the gunsmith is dead so my role doesn't do anything.

that's where you are wrong. i wont elaborate on that.

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Mary if you're somehow town, you will recieve worst town award after this game. i sadly have no reason to believe you are scum though. which is sad.

Why are you against autowin tho? lol

If I am somehow town? and then I am town in the same line? I've lynched basically all the scum here and you're ate isn't going to work on me we both know this.

cause you're playing bad or somehow maf. but idk a situation where you can be maf, but there might be one im not aware of

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Not impossible there's a godfather. Also not impossible Yumeko is lying.
UNVOTE: Don't do anything hasty.

wait godfathers dont have guns either?

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"In Normal games on mafiascum.net, a Gunsmith gets guilties on all Mafia (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers."

is what i just read

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i just dont understand why maf wouldnt have killed the GS. like, that's the only thing that's making me overthink everything. I have 0 clue. Like is mafia playing awful or do they have some secret plan

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VOTE: Gerry
This game is over

why are you against auto win?????? answer me that?

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WAIT HOLY SHIT. can maf kill and do an ability at the same time?

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Game Replacement (11 - LYNCH): Creature, wavemode, TwoInAMillion, Nero Cain, MarioManiac4, Mary Saotome, Eddie Cane, Flairs, massive, Dunkerdoodles, gerryoat

UnaBombaH (2): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz
TwoInAMillion (2): Game Replacement, Boonskiies
WhyMafia (2): KidAmn, Assemblerotws
Mary Saotome (1): Theta Alpine
davesaz (1): osuka

Not Voting (2): UnaBombaH, WhyMafia

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osuka (10 - LYNCH): MarioManiac4, WhyMafia, TwoInAMillion, Dunkerdoodles, Eddie Cane, Nero Cain, Mary Saotome, gerryoat, Boonskiies, KidAmn

Nero Cain (1): wavemode
WhyMafia (1): osuka

Not Voting (8): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, Assemblerotws, Mary Saotome, massive, Theta Alpine, Flairs, KidAmn

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Flairs (7): Mary Saotome, TwoInAMillion, Boonskiies, Yumeko Jabami, gerryoat, Nero Cain, Eddie Cane

Yumeko Jabami (2): KidAmn, davesaz
Dunkerdoodles (2): MarioManiac4, Titus
Titus (1): Nero Cain
Eddie Cane (1): Flairs
Mary Saotome (1): massive
massive (1): wavemode

Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

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davesaz (7 - LYNCH): Boonskiies, skirt skirt, gerryoat, wavemode, Yumeko Jabami, KidAmn, massive

MarioManiac4 (2): Mary Saotome, davesaz
Yumeko Jabami (1): Titus
massive (1): TwoInAMillion

Not Voting (1): MarioManiac4

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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massive (5 - LYNCH): Yumeko Jabami, wavemode, KidAmn, skirt skirt, Mary Saotome

Yumeko Jabami (1): Titus

Not Voting (3): gerryoat, massive, TwoInAMillion

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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On maf lynches: Gerry - 3; Mary: 2
On town lynches: Gerry - 1; Mary: 2

u were saying, Mary?

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Question: Why are you against auto win?

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What is the reason for trying to lynch me where I'd be confirmed as mafia in an auto win scenario?

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Idk why me proving you wrong is making you upset, but bye bye.

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This isn't helping. You're being pretty rude here to Mary after she indicates that you are annoying her.

You want me to apologize for correcting her? lol. she's the one being hostile

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there is no flaw in no lynching, now if people will stop being bad, that would be great. you guys already ruined autowin, so this game is on whoever is town here that wouldn't just agree to the sequence of actions

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there is no flaw in no lynching, now if people will stop being bad, that would be great. you guys already ruined autowin, so this game is on whoever is town here that wouldn't just agree to the sequence of actions

You prove it up, I'll be on board.

i already explained how. did you miss it?

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you realize that if we NL 1 of them have to die tomorrow, right?

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who cares, i got them lynched by hammering or trying to get others to hammer.

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I literally gave us autowin, which is confirmed btw with wave flipping town. if you guys woulda just listened to my plan.

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If I'm mafia i'm an idiot for putting myself in an autoloss situation. If I get lynched today, it's just gonna be skirt vs yumeko in mylo. like i'm obvious town idek how people even scumread me this game lol

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also wait skirt, why the sudden push on me, it's kinda weird. since you said I was your TR for a long time.

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In no order within categories, gonna change this by ebwop as I catch up. prolly not gonna read the whole thing but bored rn. these are my current reads as of now. btw, just skimming thoroughly not actually reading rofl fuck thay

town: mulch, creature,
soft town: boon (if you're scum I dare you to keep me alive ), gerry, tiam, dunker, osuka,
null: assemble, pere (pere is itg?_?), kidamn, dave, mm4 (very slightly scum but not enough to move), flairs, Mary, theta, massive, una, gr
soft scum + scum: nero, yumeko, wave,

4. Theta Alpine
10. massive
11. davesaz

{whymafia, tiam (sk is town for the purposes of these reads), wave}
{mm4, dunker, gerry}
{assemble, flairs, Nero, yumeko, mary, theta, massive, davesaz}
{boon, osuka, kidamn}

everyone in category 3, try to town it up please. i want more town reads.

ftr, that goes obv town - prob town - leans - prob scum

i reread from creatures first gr vote before posting reads. mulch and wave aren't scum here. tiam is vig. mm4 is probably town for gr interactions, but I have some pings that hold me back from lock towning him. dunker is very mislynch-y in a townie way. gerry eod was townie + pr. boon, osuka, and kidamn are p obvscum to me.

ya, we arelynching in those 3 and I'm going to shout at anyone who disagrees. i already know boons going to be annoying to lynch so I'd rather just let tiam vig him - also means we get 1 more night of supposed bps - which, btw, is a perfectly valid scum role. osuka looks horrible with knowledge that tiam town gr/una scum. kidamn just looks horrible, and I trust mulch.

@Nero/Mafia because there had been some sort of consensus yesterday that we would stop lynching gerry as long as someone checked gerry that night. And seeing how no one is pushing gerry now, I'm assuming that whatever results they got back pointed towards town

My main reason yesterday was that gerry's ISO was him pushing Osuka for 30 pages, defending himself for 30 pages, and then flipping votes from osuka to assemble to nero without any reasoning or evidence and then more defending himself, and then flip flopping between million and nero. But I guess someone had copped him or something, so he's town now

if I am a cop I definitely didn't check gerry last night. such a waste of a pr.

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Spoiler: vote counts with only real flips shown

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Game Replacement (11 - LYNCH):

Creature

, wavemode, TwoInAMillion,

Nero Cain

, MarioManiac4, Mary Saotome, Eddie Cane,

Flairs

, massive,

Dunkerdoodles

, gerryoat
UnaBombaH (2): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz
TwoInAMillion (2):

Game Replacement

, Boonskiies
Titus (2): KidAmn,

Assemblerotws

Mary Saotome (1):

Theta Alpine

davesaz (1):

osuka

Not Voting (2):

UnaBombaH

, Titus

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osuka (10 - LYNCH): MarioManiac4, Titus, TwoInAMillion,

Dunkerdoodles

, Eddie Cane,

Nero Cain

, Mary Saotome, gerryoat, Boonskiies, KidAmn
Nero Cain (1): wavemode
Titus (1):

osuka

Not Voting (8): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz,

Assemblerotws

, Mary Saotome, massive,

Theta Alpine

,

Flairs

, KidAmn

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Nero Cain (8): Eddie Cane, wavemode, Boonskiies,

Dunkerdoodles

, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion,

Flairs

, Titus
Eddie Cane (1):

Nero Cain

Dunkerdoodles (1): MarioManiac4
Flairs (1): Mary Saotome

Not Voting (5): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, massive, KidAmn

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Next VC: World record for longest head hair

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Flairs (8): Mary Saotome, TwoInAMillion, Boonskiies, Yumeko Jabami, gerryoat,

Nero Cain

, Eddie Cane,

Dunkerdoodles

Yumeko Jabami (2): KidAmn, davesaz
Dunkerdoodles (2): MarioManiac4, Titus
Titus (1):

Nero Cain

Eddie Cane (1):

Flairs

Mary Saotome (1): massive
massive (1): wavemode

Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

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Spoiler: vote counts with my strong reads shown - this is what i believe to be more useful

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Game Replacement (11 - LYNCH):

Creature

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TwoInAMillion

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Nero Cain

, MarioManiac4, Mary Saotome,

Eddie Cane

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Flairs

, massive,

Dunkerdoodles

, gerryoat
UnaBombaH (2): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz
TwoInAMillion (2):

Game Replacement

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Boonskiies

Titus (2):

KidAmn

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Assemblerotws

Mary Saotome (1):

Theta Alpine

davesaz (1):

osuka

Not Voting (2):

UnaBombaH

, Titus

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

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osuka (10 - LYNCH): MarioManiac4, Titus,

TwoInAMillion

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Dunkerdoodles

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Eddie Cane, Nero Cain

, Mary Saotome, gerryoat,

Boonskiies

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KidAmn

Nero Cain (1):

wavemode

Titus (1):

osuka

Not Voting (8): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz,

Assemblerotws

, Mary Saotome, massive,

Theta Alpine

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Flairs

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KidAmn

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Nero Cain (8):

Eddie Cane

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wavemode

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Boonskiies

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Dunkerdoodles

, gerryoat,

TwoInAMillion

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Flairs

, Titus
Eddie Cane (1):

Nero Cain

Dunkerdoodles (1): MarioManiac4
Flairs (1): Mary Saotome

Not Voting (5): Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, massive,

KidAmn

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

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Flairs (7): Mary Saotome,

TwoInAMillion

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Boonskiies

, Yumeko Jabami, gerryoat,

Nero Cain, Eddie Cane, Dunkerdoodles

Yumeko Jabami (2):

KidAmn

, davesaz
Dunkerdoodles (2): MarioManiac4, Titus
Titus (1):

Nero Cain

Eddie Cane (1):

Flairs

Mary Saotome (1): massive
massive (1):

wavemode

Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

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Nero lynch gets counted for VCA, since it was, after all, a successful lynch aside from the mod error.

What's important to note is the Nero lynch did actually happen, despite the mod error, which is awesome for VCA. I don't normally do VCA because I don't like it or value it, but fuck it, this is a large and I'm bored. I'm using the second spoiler ftr, the first is only for reference.

The most important thing I notice is Titus is on both town lynches and neither scum lynches, while actively distracting from the Flairs wagon, hard pushing the Nero wagon, and in a slot that has been pushed as scum many times this game. Mulch's replace out does not carry this far, Titus has lost her townread and needs to reearn it but tbh FoS Titus. Massive looks bad too, voting Game immediately after another scum, and then voting Mary day 3. Tbf, Massive wasn't on either mislynch, but eh. Flairs lynch being all town makes sense when you see the 4 living people not on the wagon asides Wave are Dave, Mario, Titus, and Massive, aka most of the scum pool. Mario or Titus being scum makes sense too, unless you want to assume the Osuka lynch was all town (or yumeko/gerry is scum).

Yea, doing this is reminding me how little I care for VCA, I'm happy with these reads.

{skirt skirt, tiam, boon}
{kidamn, wave}
-- probably never voting above this line --
{gerry}
-- would not lynch the above today --
{yumeko}
{mary}
-- would ideally not lynch above today, but would be ok with it --
{titus, dave}
{mm4, massive}

{skirt skirt, tiam}
{kidamn, wave}
-- probably never voting above this line --
{gerry}
-- would not lynch the above today --
{yumeko}
{mary}
-- would ideally not lynch above today, but would be ok with it --
{titus}
{massive}

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eh, i guess game replacement is an ok lynch but can we get VOTE: two million if you guys wont vote nero? please iso him and give me 1 town post. just 1

ftr, only reference to game replacement in the entire game as well.

maybe because i subbed in like 3/4ths into day 1? and he got lynched day 1? lol.

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also about two million, he wasn't vigging me ever, i was his TR. I had no reason to kill him over say a GS yesterday, it literally made no sense for me to do as mafia. like this is basic logic. He was willing to shoot yumeko/wave(apparerently)/skirt. thus giving them the most incentive to kill the vig

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This is my thoughts on the game, because honestly the people I SR the most are clear, i guess which makes it weird.

Kid: I see no reason for him not to be town when we have a back up gunsmith. Even if I SR him for being alive so long, if he's mafia and I lose to there being a random back up gunsmith when we dont have one, then I'm fine with that.

This leads me to my next group.

Titus, Mary: Literally no reason for them not to be clear, sadly. They have to have a gun to kill people, I believe so. they should be clear. It's annoying that I actually have to reason with Mary cause she's clear, but she's being so stubborn and dumb for literally no reason without even trying to talk things out. Titus, idk why she would wanna lynch the GS when I'm pretty sure they are clear now. But w/e. She's town too and at least is a bit more reasonable.

Skirt: I was townreading this slot above the ones I mentioned above, but like there are a few plays that don't make sense. He seemed convinced that Yumeko was last scum. But, suddenly wants to lynch me today. It makes me a bit paranoid that maybe he's thinking that since Titus was wanting to lynch Yumeko so badly he could try and mislynch me and go for the win tomorrow, but idk. Mary seems to be unwilling to vote Yumeko for "reasons"

Yumeko: I thought this could be mafia going into yesterday, but it's really suboptimal to lynch them here, I think.

I still think NLing is the right strategy. But, i think we should at least talk things over as a group. I'm still pretty upset that you guys messed up auto win, because no need for wave to be shot yesterday when he was basically gonna be conf town based on a few things.

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Okay, I think I need to talk to Mary a bit. Mary, I'm sorry for upsetting you earlier, even though I disagree with what you said.

But, can you at least quote the tells from Yumeko that is giving you the TR and why?

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Skirt stfu lol.

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eh, i guess game replacement is an ok lynch but can we get VOTE: two million if you guys wont vote nero? please iso him and give me 1 town post. just 1

ftr, only reference to game replacement in the entire game as well.

maybe because i subbed in like 3/4ths into day 1? and he got lynched day 1? lol.

doesn't change anything? and you subbed in before me so i don't see your point? and you ignored the other lynches?

You subbed for someone?

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Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

makes me obvious town btw

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then that post makes no sense wtf lol. I didn't even post a lot during day 1. i just remember tunneling osuka and faking a guilty on him. and then got SR for it

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Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

makes me obvious town btw

obviously does not

but if you're town you need to get your tiny head out of your ass and tell me why yumekos scum rather than "waaaah my garbage perfect plan failed also im obv town idiots"

why should i have to tell you why your scumread is scum? lol

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i just keep getting this feeling that i'm missing something.

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why are you lying? lol like there is no point. you can just check my iso and see

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not that, but you said i was active day 1

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Oh ok nvm

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^ no lol

if anything it was cause of boon

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This game is pretty annoying, still waiting for Mary

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why are you guys rushing everything? its been like a day.

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I wish Mary would hurry tf up tho.

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Cause you guys are being redacts and lynching obvious town.

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Mary can you unvote and answer me?

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Why do you meta TR yumeko, can you explain it to me? I'm guessing that's why you think he's town.

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I don't know. 2 things are holding me back.

1.) I get the feeling that I'm missing something, or that something is off. And usually when I get this feeling, it's right.

I mean think about it, why did maf refuse to kill the GS if they had a strongarm? Isn't that like, weird? But, i feel like Kid has to be town. So there is something weird about that. And that kinda brings me to my 2nd point.

2.) Why wouldn't they kill him? Is it cause their gun can't be seen? Or is it because there is actually 2 mafs left.

But, I'm not sure how possible that is. I mean we've only had 2 mislynches. But we've also had an unlimited vig, so it's possible maf could have been given more members here.

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Why do you meta TR yumeko, can you explain it to me? I'm guessing that's why you think he's town.

At first I was confused by Yumeko but I saw there play as just a new playstyle then what I'm used too. I think unba interactions with Yumeko also point to her being town I will admit I've been worried I've been kept alive by her and she's scum but that feels like paranoia plus she has a few key tells that she has not done. Why do you sr her?

And you feel she can't change or anything? She is confined to playing a certain way, despite playing with the one person who knows their identity and would be able to figure them out if they were maf or not? And it's not even that I SR her but I guess maf has to be between skirt and yumeko. Also why the Unba interactions? If Unba knew Yumeko was scum, she could scum theatre, she tried to contact the others already with the quote that boon posted. Despite Yumeko being her #1 SR, she didn't push her that hard, and was actually trying to get me lynched over Yumeko toward the end of the day.

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Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds)

wow you make mafia sound so easy, i bet you win a lot with strategies like that.

TBH, my track record is not something to boast with!
Most of my games have been sub-ins so far though, so I'm trying to turn it around with these games where I play from the start myself.

Also: are you trying to say that lynching for information (when no obvious scum is presented to you), is bad gameplay?

That Nero wagon looks like the worst group of people to be a part of ever.

We still have room in the gerryoat-wagon..!

This game has so much floating around.

I tried to get a wagon on Yumeko what feels like half a year ago, and that slot still has a vote on me, despite being inactive for ages.
Inactivity that started conveniently at the time we almost got a wagon rolling..

But I think it's too late for that lynch now (unless everyone would just ISO them and agree), we should just stick with lynches we could get through within reasonable amount of pages.
Either we let gerry go for that PR-claim and we all migrate to one decided wagon (otherwise we will just spread again ) or we lynch him.

I'd like to hear actual conversation on this now, but I guess we are back to shitposting soon..

Want to wagon yumeko?

Please Mulch, don't tempt me anymore!

We need to all come together on a bigger wagon for today, time is of the essence!

I hope Yumeko gets NK'd because scum don't like reading only walls either, but I think he will be around tomorrow for another chance at lynching!

Yeah, still think Nero Cain is town.

So your vote would rather be..where?

You dislike lynching a JOAT-claim D1?

i think scum claiming PR so they don't get lynched is a thing.

I think he meant the JOAT-part..?

Yes, for some reason I don't think scum!gerry would admit he's JOAT.

Then we need to get working on a reasonable wagon.
I'm not sure we can get a lynchable wagon running on just anybody anymore, we need someone who already has SOME shade on them.

Give me your idea (just not Vedith D1)

So your vote would rather be..where?

Don't you think I have enough game content for you to judge me on? Like it just seems a little silly that you

still

have this kinda light paranoid scum read on me.

Eh?

I'm not voting you?

I'm asking creature where he thinks we can get a reasonable lynch outside of you and gerry.

...but are we REALLY sure we want to go there?
UNVOTE: GameReplacement

I find it weird that we are now lynching an inactive player, simply because MOST ALL OF OUR EARLIER ATTEMPTS AT WAGONS CLAIMED PR.
There almost has to be scum there, no?

But we are just too scared that we might accidentally lynch a PR?

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Want to wagon yumeko?

Please Mulch, don't tempt me anymore!

We need to all come together on a bigger wagon for today, time is of the essence!

I hope Yumeko gets NK'd because scum don't like reading only walls either, but I think he will be around tomorrow for another chance at lynching!

Actually I just noticed this post, it's pretty weird, isn't it?

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I would also feel really fucking bad if I mislynched her and I was wrong

This should never be a reason, ever. If that's seriously a reason, please don't play mafia.

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this is really annoying because I feel like I'm being obvious town today, but no one can see.

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My big issue with you gerry is it feels like your whole play and tone changed in a single day.

You must not know me very well then.

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this is really annoying because I feel like I'm being obvious town today, but no one can see.

i repeat. do you think scum is yumeko or me?

I clearly stated everything I was thinking, figure that out for yourself.

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Mary what do you feel about my tone has changed? Do you think I'm the type to panic as last maf? Even if i was last maf, I would have been last maf yesterday, why would I suddenly change today?

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Mary what do you feel about my tone has changed? Do you think I'm the type to panic as last maf? Even if i was last maf, I would have been last maf yesterday, why would I suddenly change today?

Because it bought you time you weren't really in the list of vig choices or jail choices so you didn't need to worry now that it's crunch time you seem to be failing

You realize vig tr me. So no reason for me to kill him. I'd kill GS so the only clear would be Titus. And I could just kill him next day.

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If I was mafia killing vig there was GTing as it was my way to win.

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Would be 4 unclear that way. And he TR me the most of those 4. Titus also showed no will to lynch me either.

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The fact that you know what anime this is from makes me want to be best friends

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Mary what do you feel about my tone has changed? Do you think I'm the type to panic as last maf? Even if i was last maf, I would have been last maf yesterday, why would I suddenly change today?

Because it bought you time you weren't really in the list of vig choices or jail choices so you didn't need to worry now that it's crunch time you seem to be failing

You realize vig tr me. So no reason for me to kill him. I'd kill GS so the only clear would be Titus. And I could just kill him next day.

no. that's not how it qorks. if scum didn't kill vig town got an extra kill via vig and we could've resolved all 3 of us regardless did me bein vigged tm

Didn't matter if I was the TR

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It would be:
Me
Tiam
Mary
Titus
Yumeko
Skirt

Next day:
Me
Titus
Skirt

Say Mary was lynched and yumeko vigged and tiam killed. So no it wouldn't be auto loss

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How would he be confirmed town even if yumeko died instead of him? Lol.

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It would just be a cc of me and him. He would say he has me guilty I will say he's fake

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Much better scenario. He would likely be lynched before me.

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lol, he wasn't but ok. whatever you say to fit your narrative. what i'm saying makes sense, lets just see if Mary/Titus/Kidamn can see that

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I apologise for forcing you to spend time away from your natural home on /r/iamverysmart.

Lmao. Did you read my logic as to why i would kill you over vig

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can you do so

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Okay, cool. I kinda think it's yumeko, but you won't vote your meta friend, so that's a lost cause

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Apparently you are bad at reading your friends lol

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VOTE: yumeko

If skirt is somehow scum I won't mind 1v1 him. But I really think this is maf. The quotes I posted of umbreon makes me think he was just trying to hard bus a buddy by saying it was the strongest SR but never actually pushing them.

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I thought I was pretty obvious town by the hammer situations but I guess not lol

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FUCK. I was maf. Gg. I played bad towards the end. I should have just killed gs

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"hey that investigative is slowly clearing everyone but me... Eh, it's probably nothing"

Holy shit gerry if you're not memeing me... My fuckin sides

Yeah I was hoping they'd think you were fake lol

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FUCK. I was maf. Gg. I played bad towards the end. I should have just killed gs

ayyy na I think you just needed to not outright panic and push for a me vig shot more by though

Oops

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Didn't think that would happen either. I think he coulda been mislynched. :c

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You're pretty good at reading me, Mary. Hopefully we play together more in the future.

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Btw skirt was so obvious town it made it hard. Yumeko was the scummy one that if it weren't for you, prob got lynched lol

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Idk where yoshi is to end it lol

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lol