I have no idea how to take this comment it doesn't feel that genuine that I would expect from a new player wouldn't mind a wagon on this still
In post 208, lucca261 wrote:let me get back in the game by making a quick "what I think of each player":
Jamie: yeah, I'm kinda of torn about his slot. he's using the newbie card a lot, more that I would like. when I was a newbie, the last thing I wanted was to people to point I was a newbie. he's using subtle language to point how he is a new player since the start, on things like 43, 71 and 128. and the mix of an apologetic approach, seen on 43, with an agressive approach, seen on the rest of his posts, especially against Aubrey, concerns me, and makes me think that the tone on 43 was the tone of a concerned player, that was using the newbie card to at least get more air, when he had five votes against him.
on the other hand, I think that the things he is questioning are ok, and I liked his response to me about why he scumreads me. I also don't think that a player that seems so eager to fit in with the meta would be such an eager scum player, with lot of posts and questions. so right now, I would say that the slot is on the complete middle to me.
question: what do you think of Maki vote/unvote on awoo?
In post 244, Epic Fial wrote:Lots of fluuuuuuufffffffffffff from Jamie, and his wagon dissolved faster than a fast-relief aspirin in a vat of hydrochloric acid. I'd like to see the pressure maintained longer.
VOTE: Jamie
In post 256, Aubrey wrote:In post 255, Jamiet99uk wrote:It seems to me that Epic Fial and Aubrey are both voting for me because they don't like my style, rather than for anything that actually makes me seem likely to be scum.
Kek.
I'm sorry that I think your coasting, not addressing my concerns, and producing Eh content.
In post 227, Awoo wrote:so, let's talk: what's my motivation as scum to accuse cheeky without any reasons here?
Don't like this line. Do you think it mattered if you had a reason or not that early in the game? To me you're pushing something either alignment could have done forward and saying "scum wouldn't do it".
More later, I owe this game some actual content.
In post 308, Jamiet99uk wrote:Having re-read Awoo I no longer scumread him (not her, sorry it was the female picture). Awoo seems to be looking carefully at people's reactions which is good scumhunting play. I particularly agree with this response to Lucca261. It's egregiously scummy to want to know what people think you would do or say as scum (so you can later avoid doing or saying things that will get you scumread).
VOTE: UNVOTE until I can properly reread Lucca.
In post 413, Quick wrote:In post 410, Jamiet99uk wrote:Excellent.
The reaction to my challenge to CommKnight was very interesting. Everyone who said it was a bad idea is entirely correct. Of course I don't want CommKnight to commit to suiciding if he's town and gets his D1 read wrong. That would be a waste.
My intention in proposing this apparently mad idea was twofold. First of all, to dissuade CommKnight from being too cocky about his gut, and anyone else from just slavishly following him. Secondly, I wanted too see people's reactions. I'm going to spend some time assessing those later today.
For the record I do stand by my assertion that a VT should not be afraid to die. A VT dying is not as good as scum dying, for sure - but it's way better than a PR dying. Plus, flips are informative. A lot of people have interacted with me today and if I died, those interactions could provide many clues.
That said, all things considered I'd prefer to stay alive, and I'm definitely town, so if you've got a good scumread, go for them - and tell us why. It's time to start bringing this phase home, my fellow townsfolk.
So... was that thing where you told people not to lynch the masons the same type of thing?
In post 417, Lalendra wrote:In post 410, Jamiet99uk wrote:Excellent.
The reaction to my challenge to CommKnight was very interesting. Everyone who said it was a bad idea is entirely correct. Of course I don't want CommKnight to commit to suiciding if he's town and gets his D1 read wrong. That would be a waste.
My intention in proposing this apparently mad idea was twofold. First of all, to dissuade CommKnight from being too cocky about his gut, and anyone else from just slavishly following him. Secondly, I wanted too see people's reactions. I'm going to spend some time assessing those later today.
For the record I do stand by my assertion that a VT should not be afraid to die. A VT dying is not as good as scum dying, for sure - but it's way better than a PR dying. Plus, flips are informative. A lot of people have interacted with me today and if I died, those interactions could provide many clues.
That said, all things considered I'd prefer to stay alive, and I'm definitely town, so if you've got a good scumread, go for them - and tell us why. It's time to start bringing this phase home, my fellow townsfolk.
1) Not sure if I believe this was all a ploy, or if this is backpedaling and "I MEANT TO DO THAT."
2) Remember how we were trying not to out the masons? Saying you're VT is narrowing the pool. We already talked about this. Stahp.
3) "I'm definitely town, fellow townsfolk" is the most LAMIST post I've ever seen.
In post 428, Lalendra wrote:It's easy to say you're not scum, but you didn't refute my points.
In post 441, Lalendra wrote:In response to people telling you that your "challenge" to CK was a bad idea, you posted this:In post 410, Jamiet99uk wrote:For the record I do stand by my assertion that a VT should not be afraid to die. A VT dying is not as good as scum dying, for sure - but it's way better than a PR dying. Plus, flips are informative. A lot of people have interacted with me today and if I died, those interactions could provide many clues.
You certainly didn't seem afraid to die, and said that your flip would be informative. For me that really sounds like you are soft-claiming VT.
In post 446, Lalendra wrote:Yes, my continuing to push you on things you've said and refuse to defend, and calling you out on your unwillingness to explain yourself, is obviously just unfounded tunneling.
In post 473, CheekyTeeky wrote:In post 467, CommKnight wrote:Definitely a bit firmer of a readlist than before. I want to brush Jamiet off as a noob!Town. But his play is just soo scummy. Like I don't know any other site that I have ever played on that would read his play as town. So I can't even say "Oh, it's the culture over there." Because I bet if I entered the site, it definitely isn't.
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Jamie I know you have experience elsewhere but I really recommend playing in a newbie game where you get people playing who are "trained" to give you a handle on how things work on MS. The games are still competitive and fun imo.
In post 467, CommKnight wrote:{CheekyTeeky}
{Awoo, Aubrey}
{northsidegal, Maki Harukawa, Chisa Yukizome}
{Flavor Leaf, Quick, Epic Fial}
{Jamiet99uk, Lalendra, lucca261}
Definitely a bit firmer of a readlist than before. I want to brush Jamiet off as a noob!Town. But his play is just soo scummy. Like I don't know any other site that I have ever played on that would read his play as town. So I can't even say "Oh, it's the culture over there." Because I bet if I entered the site, it definitely isn't.
Also his bitching about the mod and replacements seems like he's trying to push the topic away from himself. Blaming it on the community when every mafia forum I used before this has always had a reserve list in case of site flakes or people taking on more than they can handle at the time. This is the first site where the game begins without a reserve list already made up that I've been to though. But that also means a lot of other sites are use to people replacing out or bailing as well. So his attitude is unneeded.
I think I'm just waiting to see some flips though before I can get into figuring this one out. There's a few ways it can go and I'm trying to do it where mafia are forced to out themselves.
In post 468, Awoo wrote:Jamie is becoming a policy lynch.
A policy lynch that I support.
VOTE: jamiet99uk
Because otherwise it's too obvious who's getting mason'd, and that's bad. At least when we remove this from the game there is a good layer of ambiguity who the copshot lands on.
Is it bad if I think this slot isn't reaaaaaaly going to flip scum? I don't think this lynch is terrible for town as we also get some info on who's on wagons and stuff, who pushed him throughout the day, etc. But I don't reaaaly think it's going to flip scum.
A lot of my scumreads are on this wagon and I feel bad in that regard but read above.
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In post 603, CommKnight wrote:Note: Everyone who has experience with me are townreading me.
Think on that for a moment and then look at your reads.
Either I'm magically scum with everyone I've played with before or they're posting their actual read of me. Hmmm. What one could it be.
Also note that Flavor TR's me but I don't TR him. We've had multiple games together (same as the predecessor Assemble).
But you know, let's act like the TI and pretend that it's a conspiracy.
In post 600, Flavor Leaf wrote:CommKnight was one of the players that I recognized yet didn’t have a lot of experience with, as the game I did play with him, I replaced in, targeted him, didn’t put a lot of effort into it, then got night kill. Aubrey is kind of the same way. I don’t play a lot of open games. Not my thing. Generally I recognize the majority of players in games, maybe just not one or two, but over here that is not the case. Even the players I’m more familiar with I don’t have much experience with.
In post 653, Lalendra wrote:You also didn't include any information about WHY you liked those posts, as Awoo pointed out.
In post 669, lucca261 wrote:meh, Jamie is probably scum.@jamie, 580: name your post. point to it. I don't like this one bit.
answer.
In post 721, CommKnight wrote:In post 717, Flubbernugget wrote:Comm,
My issue is that you seemed to have only started acting on that second point two days before deadline, and only on the single person you can use to make sure you're alive tomorrow.
So let's see. You have an issue with me pointing out flaws in someone who wants to 1v1 me and is refusing to look at other people.
In post 729, Awoo wrote:How to get townread by jamie: quantity > quality. By my calculations, the content of this post should confirm me as town in jamie's eyes.Spoiler:
(I'm actually not going to rule out this mindset as noobtown thinking effort == towniness, but a red flip on quick is pretty damn incriminating to jamie.)
In post 733, lucca261 wrote:@jamie, do you townread me? because your read on my slot seems to change to further your narrative.
In post 740, Quick wrote:For Comm, I don't think he ever really says he should be town read, but I can totally see him using like some kinda subliminal messaging which is trying to push the agenda that he is Town.
Go ahead and ISO him and search "Town".
In post 752, Quick wrote:Screw you all.
In post 773, Epic Fial wrote:If nobody gets me, I have fialed. Comm should get me, of all people left in the game.
In post 777, Aubrey wrote:OH SHIT MAKI UNVOTED! I thought she was voting Comm.
In post 778, Quick wrote:Just Lynch me. I don't see Comm getting enough votes to get lynched and prolly no way in hell anyone else gets a sizable wagon in time before EOD.
In post 783, Aubrey wrote:I'm going to be direct and somewhat cold about this. If I feel like you're scraping by, and your content isn't matching the norm in your catchups, and you say' "well life is busy" I straight up won't give a damn. I'm understanding to a busy schedule, holidays, and RL troubles but at some point your content has to fully make up and account for that lack of activity.
This doesn't just pertain to you but to everyone.
In post 811, Awoo wrote:maybe i am maybe im not, you're basically a ghost while I've got your avatar blocked
In post 795, CommKnight wrote:In post 777, Aubrey wrote:OH SHIT MAKI UNVOTED! I thought she was voting Comm.
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VOTE: Jamie
^ Next in line for scum lynch. I got class at the moment... but that was an epic fail on more than one instances.
1.) For pointing out it wasn't the hammer. (Hint: When you can make someone believe it's the hammer, push them to admit they're scum)..
In post 822, CommKnight wrote:Poor sportsmanship. If you're town, you can push a VIABLE lynch. But hey, you've been anti-town this far, so why not carry this through to make sure you aren't trying to be let off the hook like Quick was.
In post 825, CommKnight wrote:And what mechanics have I manipulated?
In post 827, CommKnight wrote:That isn't manipulating mechanics or cheating. That's perception that it was a hammer vote and getting someone to confess.
I know, crazy. But it happens on this site.
In post 829, CommKnight wrote:I think the next game you play should be a newbie.
In post 839, Awoo wrote:have you tried double checking that P1 post where the queue is held?
In post 845, Awoo wrote:Bully all those who do not conform to our culture of peace and harmony
In post 844, Jamiet99uk wrote:Of the 4 people currently voting me, Lalendra thinks I might be town and is basically policy lynching me for being "rude". Jeebus, don't be such a petal.
The other three I ask this question: Did you see my post about my gambit to draw the NK (which you have all now fucked) and if you did see it, doesn't my behaviour make more sense now? Was such a gambit just too complex for the regimented "you-must-play-our-way" attitude some of you seem to have? Because I don't care about your site meta.