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[Alisae]

We are also not lynching the day 2 player

[Alisae]

Derpy just needs flips to work with to help him scumhunt
Some people don't operate well on day1

[Alisae]

What the fuck

[Alisae]

Didn't you strongly oppose his lynch before

[Alisae]

Also that's l-1 hammer without a claim and I will end you

[Alisae]

Not w/o a claim

[Alisae]

Not w/o a claim

[Alisae]

No

[Alisae]

You're rushing for a hammer w/o a claim

[Alisae]

Why does that sound like town

[Alisae]

You are a fool in the process of being endgamed

[Alisae]

VOTE: taco

[Alisae]

I
Do
Not
Care

[Alisae]

Mulch ily but don't make me join another normal again this is torture and the only reason why I'm not replacing out is because I joined this game because you asked me to and I feel like its my personal obligation to see it to the end

[Alisae]

There are worse things to be called
Get over it

Pedit: TOR
WHAT DID I JUST SAY

I said I'm staying.

I just hate normals because the playerlists are just so uggggh

[Alisae]

And thats actually his town behavior- Tchill can attest. That D1 with Tchill, me, and taco was the exact same behavior as this. Remember, tchill?

then he should adapt

[Alisae]

I think
If I ascend try hard levels of towniness I'll get nightkilled and that'll mean I won't have to deal with certain people

[Alisae]

VOTE: assemble

[Alisae]

Vote Count 1.23

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Assemblerotws(6):acidphoenix, Alisae, Toranaga, UC Voyager, Sergtacos, Tchill13

[L-1]

Derpy Hooves(4):Boonskiies, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles, Assemblertows

[L-3]

Klazam (1):Sub4hire

[L-6]

Not voting (2): Derpy Hooves, Klazam

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Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-15 15:30:30)

I want a case on why Derp is scum
I want sub to play the game again and start pushing reads
I want Tchill to tell me why he voted Assemble

[Alisae]

Towns on MS are kinda the reason why I am very careful about the playerlists I join and the reason why I stick to modding

[Alisae]

Derpy do you know why people are scumreading you?

[Alisae]

I am kinda thinking about going back onto tchill tbh.
I'm trying to compare his ISO here to Civilization Mafia Mafia and in CIvilization Mafia Mafia he seems to be hunting and gamesolving and atleast trying to give some decent analysis whereas here I feel like that's a bit absent.

Also his responses to getting pushed are like night and day tbh

[Alisae]

viewtopic.php?p=9515452&user_select%5B% ... 6#p9515452
Like I feel like his responses in the games I'm looking at are nothing compared to here.

LIke here one thing I'm seeing is Tchill is being extremely over dramatic in certain points, like in an interaction I had with him earlier, and overblowing some of UC's posts.

Whereas in Civilization Mafia Mafia I'm not really getting that at all from him

[Alisae]

@alisae - why are you not scum reading why?

I'm not focusing on why atm.

viewtopic.php?p=9369640&user_select%5B% ... 6#p9369640
A tchill scumgame go through that later tho I am seeing some similarities

[Alisae]

Derpy if you want me to vote why a case is a great place to start

[Alisae]

Ok then put it all into a single post that I can understand.

[Alisae]

WELL THEN MAYBE
YA SHOULD BE MORE CHARISMATIC THEN

[Alisae]

Klazam why do you like my entry?

[Alisae]

lol acid

[Alisae]

VOTE: Tchill

[Alisae]

Tchill: I hate this Assemble lynch
Suddenly
Tchill: Oh fuck it
votes Assemble

Then Suddenly
Tchill: I Hate this Assemble lynch again

Make
up
your
fucking
mind

and stop contradicting your motives.

[Alisae]

you're wking for towncred

[Alisae]

like that's what your defense of Assemble looks like to me right now tchill

[Alisae]

You claim to have meta me and the only thing consistent about day 1s is I flip flop on just about every read.

I haven't had the time to even go through the scumgame yet because I've been busy with plenty of other things I'm now just getting to this game.

[Alisae]

Also why are you angry?

[Alisae]

There's more to it then that
if there was more content and substance in those posts and things we liked in those posts then we wouldn't be having this problem.

[Alisae]

Nah man
the most townie player in the game is

Spoiler: Click Me

[Alisae]

I'm sorry I had to take the opportunity to post a terrible meme

[Alisae]

VOTE: klazam
Sure sub lets do this

[Alisae]

I can answer that anyways
I wanted to know why he liked my entrance because 1 hour after writing that that entrance lost all of its meaning to me, and that was kinda a post I made that while it was me catching up at the time, it sorta lost it's relevance a few pages afterwards. Like I never used that to help me build stances or help progressed the game, if you were to look at it now it was a post just for the sake of posting tbh.

It basicly comes down to me thinking that his read on me is bullshit

[Alisae]

Alisae claimed she wanted to repllace out but didn't because of "mulch". could be because she's scum but we'll see.

you don't know how to read
Like actually

[Alisae]

Oh wait yeah nvm that's what I said if you think I'm bullshitting that's on you to prove

[Alisae]

make a claim! dude! if your town, then claim!

Who the fuck claims at l-2?

Me

[Alisae]

UC
Just ignore him

[Alisae]

@Aliase

Have you done this faces thing in any other game? I don't think I ever saw you doing it

no

--

VOTE: why

His apology for his vote and him knowing dunkers was going to hammer is just more bad things against him.

no

VOTE: sub
This is scum because I expect robitk to catch scum not try to be manipulative and lynch town tyvm

[Alisae]

Sub4Hire = IaMRobik ?
And do you scum read him because he didn't catch scum? but this can be applied to anyone who was on the wagon...

I expect robitk to have decent reads not look like he's manipulating people.
I mostly gave into lynching Klazam to get a better read on him

[Alisae]

Derpy I am not nor ever voting Why in this current gamestate baring a cop guilty
Claiming miller then taking it back never comes from scum it is extremely risky and sloppy to do that so fucking STOP

[Alisae]

Hay boon what are your reads and did you survive the apocalypse in LA?
It looks like ya did

[Alisae]

Ok so in TRs were in sync for except Tchill but tbh I think I'll trust you for a bit.
Being paranoid of me is fine I guess.
Assemble I guess I'm also okay with it being scum

I think the scumteam is Mikey/Sub/(Assemble or Tchill) tbh

[Alisae]

VOTE: klazam

I'd ask if you actually believe klazam is scum and why, but honestly i don't care. as long as this gets him lynched we're gucci

This just
Feels like its coming from scum tbqh.

--

yes you are correct. This isn't my MO as either alignment.

and?

And that's a really shady defense of you. If you flip scum, I think that raises Alisae's scum equity. She also keeps asking for reasons why people are voting you. It's like she's trying to subtly lead the lynch away from you. Having said that, your insistence to lynch whymafia and her lack of desire/understanding shows poor teamwork/execution if you're scumbuddies.

"so what"
"well, i'm just taking notes for myself for when people start flipping"

Yeah this
This overnight made me think that robitk was focusing on just being manipulative.

[Alisae]

Scum is fine with the pace because they were lurking in it and just letting town do its thing like with Derpy tunneling Why for reasons that don't work

[Alisae]

Also yeah
Of course you're going to think the people who ARE posting are scum if scum aren't posting
Stop voting why vote sub it'll actually flip scum pinky promise

[Alisae]

Alisae is probably scum too. AtE like I posted earlier about staying here "for mulch".

please shut the fuck up thank you

[Alisae]

Like I'm trying to be a productive person lynching scum you're just being straight up fucking useless or are scum

Pedit: No
Your whole approach to this game is you being manipulative you're just victim blaming now.

[Alisae]

I already made my voting compromise by voting klazam and he flipped town. Notcompromiseingagain .

Grow up

[Alisae]

Okay then fucking vote me I want to die

[Alisae]

I either want to die
Or railroad something
Pick your poison

[Alisae]

Alisae you used every reason in the book not to vote whymafia and now it comes down to a Miller fake claim lol. Yeah SOLID reasoning there. You're just as scummy as why.

Yeah It's callled not voting town and actually being competent

[Alisae]

Like shit you can only say that AFTER why flipped scum and even then I LOVE bussing

[Alisae]

No I'm lynching sub and you're just gonna have to deal with it

[Alisae]

Fuck you

[Alisae]

We're not trying to go for each other we're trying to lynch who we believe is scum and we're getting into conflict because tchill is an ass but either way if you think that's scum theatre that's fine the only way I die here is by rope because scum aren't going to fucking night kill me

[Alisae]

Okay then sheep me
Like help me bus if you think I am bussing here

[Alisae]

Hey Mikey
I don't care
I AM putting all of the blame on sub
Because they are to blame

[Alisae]

I expect robitk to actually have reads that are good and decent
His reads are shit
Ergo he is scum

It's not fucking rocket science

Pedit: Yeah I sorta get my playstyle from RC a bit :3

[Alisae]

We're not trying to go for each other we're trying to lynch who we believe is scum and we're getting into conflict because tchill is an ass but either way if you think that's scum theatre that's fine the only way I die here is by rope because scum aren't going to fucking night kill me

Why wouldn’t they night kill you? If you’re right on your scum team, or at least like 2/3, then killing you can easily be pushed off as Tchill getting rid of you and they mislynch Tchill. If you’re wrong on scum, that group can be framed. Either way, you seem to be good at getting out of being lynched, so I don’t see why you wouldn’t be a potential night kill target. At least not the little extent you stated.

Because scum's wincon is to make people suffer and I am clearly suffering.
Like I'm a lynch somewhere down the line
Who needs to waste a kill on this loser when you can just lynch him

[Alisae]

It's not alisae/sub. It's not alisae/tchill. Surprise surprise it's alisae/whymafia

Fuck you

[Alisae]

Mikey
That's how I push every lynch

[Alisae]

Well it IS adequate here so hush yourself

[Alisae]

No I'm not letting town Lynch someone when there's obv scum. It's bad play for me and the rest of town. I'll try to case the guy FOR BOON not for ALISAE. I'm sure she'll tear it apart as soon as I post it.

You do not have scum caught you are lynching town and you feel like if you don't lynch Why he'll get away. He is not obvscum, you just need to adapt

[Alisae]

Yeah well fuck you

[Alisae]

Dunkerdoodles is town

[Alisae]

You/sub/(Assemble or Tchill)

[Alisae]

Like Mikey I said this already :/

[Alisae]

Mikey I don't think that world is the real world

[Alisae]

Like I feel like {Boon, Why, Taco, Dunker, Acid, Derpy} are all town
That leaves {Mikey, Tchill, Assemble, Sub}

That's where I am at with the gamestate

[Alisae]

To be fair, I don’t know if Mulch has ever modded a game here on mafiascum, so we don’t know his style.

He has one modded game that was abandoned due to cheaters hence why his got special priority in queue.
He has also modded a bunch of turbos on MU

[Alisae]

Like my entire scum pool is in his town pool.

then your reads are bad

[Alisae]

Derpy I am not nor ever voting Why in this current gamestate baring a cop guilty
Claiming miller then taking it back never comes from scum it is extremely risky and sloppy to do that so fucking STOP

Let’s pretend I have a guilty

Btw using that to town read somebody is legitimately the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. You are basically saying scum can fake claim Miller and retract it and you will town read them.

Scum or town read the play. Not the stupid trolling antics. Why’s play has been god awful.

I'm saying they wouldn't do it in the first place

[Alisae]

mikey you're full of shit

[Alisae]

VOTE: Mikey

[Alisae]

That's omgus

that's a buzzword.

Ok now this is serious
Why is it full of shit

A. That's not a natural pushing because you're not asking about how I formed my reads.
B. You don't care about how I formed my reads, you're just saying "Oh he listed a bunch of people off as town to attempt to pocket" like that is a shitty pocketting attempt that can be seen through easily.

And the simple answer for my why reads are the way they are is simple.
I fell in love with boon's posting today.
WhyMafia I already explained
Taco's D1 makes me want to pl him but it's probably just coming from town.
Dunker's posting seems towny to me based off of tone.
Acid mostly for Tor/UFO's meta anlaysis on him.
Derpy because he seems to be the prime example of what bad town looks like.

That leaves 4 people: Tchill, you, Sub, and Assemble.

[Alisae]

Ok ty for voting me more votes means a swifter death

[Alisae]

I'm not going to explain any of my reads anymore besides my SRs because ~reasons~
Mikey's push on me is asinine and if you can't see that you are fucking blind

[Alisae]

Man I most of pocketed this whole town beautifully to get fucking wagoned because fucking ~Star Wars~
And I highly believe there probably even isn't a case and will never be a case because you people don't want to case people because ~Star Wars~

So I wouldn't mind dieing and taking a loss here

[Alisae]

Like Mikey's push on me is mostly because I attempted to pocket people by calling a bunch of people town which never works.
The fact he thinks it does is mindblowning but hey you guys WANT to shoot yourself in the foot.
Go on ahead and do whatever

I'm a Day 4 Innocent Child

[Alisae]

Like I really do not feel like waiting for day 4 to pop that and I very much feel like dieing so you can still lynch me if you want just sayin

[Alisae]

But yeah I'm not waiting for L-1 to claim fuck you people and sheep me because I'm town actually leading a lynch and I didn't lead the klazam lynch for shit because my vote on that was "I guess I'll compromise" that wagon took on movement by itself

[Alisae]

No I am not voting why he is town

[Alisae]

I think your question really doesn't matter

[Alisae]

I mean hey if you want to lynch a very confirmable role go on ahead its not like you aren't shooting yourselves in the foot anyways and I actually want to die so...

[Alisae]

day 4 IC is the weirdest role ever

well that IS my role.

[Alisae]

Your play is incredibly antitiown

yeah but he's town

[Alisae]

Thank you Dunker now I can die.
Didn't think there was actually an IC but ok
I fakeclaimed IC but made my claim shoddy enough that it would have the same effect of me claiming vt

[Alisae]

Like I actually have a death wish so vote me now Tyvm

[Alisae]

VOTE: Alisae
NOW FUCKING VOTE ME

[Alisae]

I played the game properly
I deduced that Why was town because I don't believe why as town would be as sloppy as to claim Miller and then retract it for ~Star Wars~
If I just claimed vt it would have 0 effect
If people wanted to listen to the IC claim atleast they would be following town

Tl;dr I just want to die now thank you for voting me

[Alisae]

Derpy feel free to blacklist me but your scumreads are 0/3

[Alisae]

I already said I'm not an IC and I fakeclaimed it because
A. if you didn't like the claim it would have the same effect as me claiming vt because I designed it that way.
B. If you bought the claim and helped me actually lynched my scumreads, AND they would flip scum, when you realized that it was d4 and I fakeclaimed, you would re-evaluate to the point where it didn't matter, or I would be dead by then because scum would have nightkilled me.

[Alisae]

those are the reason why I did what I did.
I think dunker popping his IC helps you guys realize your wrong but I don't think it'll matter to ywall since you demand to lynch why for really shitty reasons

[Alisae]

Mikey
my flip will show I'm not trying to prove myself anymore.

If you think I'm bad at town after this fine I'll just be mocking everyone from the dead thread about especially how scummy you are.

[Alisae]

Like I'm selfvoting
I very clearly want to die and want out of this game
its why I fakeclaimed in the first place.

I rather die then lynch my own scumreads at this point even though I am 100% sure you are scum

[Alisae]

Like dude I just want out.

[Alisae]

This is what happens when only competent people roll scum.

[Alisae]

But I sure as hell am gonna brag about being right D2.

[Alisae]

Ywall read your role pms right?

[Alisae]

can someone remind me again how you forget your role?

[Alisae]

but yeah Why don't forget your role next time tyvm from my pov you were obviously town so...

[Alisae]

Yeah it definitely would have.

[Alisae]

Like most of my thoughts are in the deadthread I recall maybe I might do more later who knows.

pedit: :O

[Alisae]

Roleswaps go wrong sometimes

[Alisae]

And I think I was the lynch either way that day regardless if I did that or not.
I just prevented the watcher from outing himself.

[Alisae]

Mikey was obvscum tbh

[Alisae]

His push on me was terribad and I never TR'd tor's slot

[Alisae]

lol mikey

[Alisae]

btw mikey you're great <3

[Alisae]

I won some pretty derpy scumgames in turbos

[Alisae]

mastina I feel like a lot of the balance complaints are coming from MU players (Tho I do remember Raybells himself saying this was hilarious townsided and he passed it for some reason) and their meta is completely different from ours
like town wins a lot more on MU then it does here.

[Alisae]

I wouldn't say its too easy?
I think MU games are actually a lot harder and players are a lot better

[Alisae]

I have both somewhat strong scum and town games so...