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I skimmed my role PM so I don’t know.
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I think he’s being serious but failing at fitting in or trying to come off or look a certain way.In post 79, Boonskiies wrote:
He’s in fuckaround mode, which is fine for now, but this is the fastest rvs has ended in a while for me.In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.-
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No RobbIn post 83, Boonskiies wrote:
Assuming you meant Boon.In post 82, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Nothing has happened except Robb being Robb.-
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I think so.In post 96, Boonskiies wrote:
We don’t play with each other too much. He’s Jake from State Farm too, right?In post 94, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Yep.In post 92, Boonskiies wrote:Is Derpy Robb?
Find it a little hard to believe you didn’t know.
Yeah, my first newbie game on site, I fake guiltied him as town.
I don’t keep track honestly-
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I think what I accused you of is more likely to come from scum than town.In post 108, UC Voyager wrote:
how so????i mean? i am new to the site, but why do you not like me???In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.-
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This yeah.In post 109, Boonskiies wrote:
I think he was referring to it in a scummy way not a personal way.In post 108, UC Voyager wrote:
how so????i mean? i am new to the site, but why do you not like me???In post 77, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don’t like UC either but this may just be because he’s new to the site.-
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In post 307, Sergtacos wrote:
if you're gonna do that then stop playing games with me if you're gonna keep thinking im scum in every fucking game. hop off my dickIn post 305, Tchill13 wrote:
I'm just gonna trust the players around me help figure out you're alignment or else I'd literally push you as scum every time and that's just notreasonable.In post 303, Sergtacos wrote:
Think about it this way, if you think im town, im scum, if you think im scum, im town, yeah?In post 298, Tchill13 wrote:I've got a hard null on alisae atm. I get scum vibes from tacos every game. Assemble what do you think of alisae and tacos?In post 309, Tchill13 wrote:Tacos don't be like that I just acknowledged I'm trying to get better at reading you lol.-
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Sorry to hear.In post 530, UC Voyager wrote:I will be v/la for the next few days
so my parents are divorced right. so im with my dad on school days, and im at my moms on the weekend. simple. well i got a school and home lap top. i guess i grabbed myy school lap top charger to take to my moms in stead of my moms, so my battery is toast! i will try to post mobile if i can, but this is a btw....
I think you should replace out.
Strongest scum read right now.
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Mainly his entrance and a few of his catch-up posts. In post 548, Apple Jack wrote:In post 532, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Strongest scum read right now.
Obviously. But why is he.
Entrance:
I can see why he would vote Robb here but I can’t see why he would immediately unvote as town. Robb was declaring that he wasn’t going to do anything until Day 2. Suspecting someone for taking such a stance isn’t out of this world and I can’t see how the ambiguous and empty comment in response to Boon would take away that initial suspicion.In post 225, sub4hire wrote:
UNVOTE: derpy hoovesIn post 23, Apple Jack wrote:
Who reads the rules?In post 21, Boonskiies wrote:You guys know it’s confirmed 10-3 in the rules, right?
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I don’t like 232. None of what Boon has said in this post he quotes should warrant a town read. What’s even more baffling is that a town read is given on someone he just voted in UC (226) with justification that is unclear. I’d expect town to take offense to that.
I also don’t like 242. I think not only the assumption I’m town reading Serg is ridiculous but the pre-flip associations with little to no data are as well.
255 feels like scum who is angry that they have to look like they took time to read and get a decent picture of Alisae’s meta. You have to explain why you read something a certain way and be willing to take in new information when presented. This is something that town in most cases shouldn’t have a problem doing.
I disagree entirely with the second point. It’s a valid question. What if an RVS wagon got to L-1 and you had hammered? As scum you can play it off as if you didn’t see or just write it off as town being stupid for putting someone at L-1 so early. -
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In post 589, sub4hire wrote:You didn't even care to ask why I TRd boon, so how can you not like my TR of him lol
The point about 255 is laughable too. I'm supposed to reconsider my read on alisae because alisae told me that's it's not role indicative? If alisae is mafia, of course she's gonna say what she does is not role indicative. In the same sense that if I tell you that I'm 100% town this game because of my meta, you aren't going to believe it because it comes from me; however if there are a bunch of people that know my meta tell you that then maybe you'd believe it. No one confirmed that it's NAI so why would I believe her about it?
Anyway, I am town so you should probably reconsider your vote
Why would I need to ask you after it was implied what you were town reading him for?In post 590, sub4hire wrote:The boon read was that boon gave a big town list and I felt like mafia would leave themselves more question marks and not make so many town reads that early. I didn't really care about who he was town reading.
As for my preflip associations, I make them all the time regardless of role, but they've been pretty accurate. I don't remember the exact quote regarding the association between you, serg and the third person, but it was something that pinged me so I wrote about it. Can review it when I get to a computer if you care for me to do so
And Alisae’s meta is something you can fact check by viewing their past games no? Instead of relying on other people to confirm what they’re saying, dive through their games to see if they’re being truthful or not. You’re being presented with that opportunity but choosing not to take it.
Why would scum not give out so many town reads early? They can always change them and I don’t think it’s significantly harder for scum to do so then town.-
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Nice cop out. You quoted Boon’s town reads and declared him as town. My assumptaton is sensible. If you actually practiced what you preached, you wouldn’t have said I’m town reading Serg.In post 599, sub4hire wrote:
1) You know what they say about assumptionsIn post 597, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 589, sub4hire wrote:You didn't even care to ask why I TRd boon, so how can you not like my TR of him lol
The point about 255 is laughable too. I'm supposed to reconsider my read on alisae because alisae told me that's it's not role indicative? If alisae is mafia, of course she's gonna say what she does is not role indicative. In the same sense that if I tell you that I'm 100% town this game because of my meta, you aren't going to believe it because it comes from me; however if there are a bunch of people that know my meta tell you that then maybe you'd believe it. No one confirmed that it's NAI so why would I believe her about it?
Anyway, I am town so you should probably reconsider your vote
Why would I need to ask you after it was implied what you were town reading him for?In post 590, sub4hire wrote:The boon read was that boon gave a big town list and I felt like mafia would leave themselves more question marks and not make so many town reads that early. I didn't really care about who he was town reading.
As for my preflip associations, I make them all the time regardless of role, but they've been pretty accurate. I don't remember the exact quote regarding the association between you, serg and the third person, but it was something that pinged me so I wrote about it. Can review it when I get to a computer if you care for me to do so
And Alisae’s meta is something you can fact check by viewing their past games no? Instead of relying on other people to confirm what they’re saying, dive through their games to see if they’re being truthful or not. You’re being presented with that opportunity but choosing not to take it.
Why would scum not give out so many town reads early? They can always change them and I don’t think it’s significantly harder for scum to do so then town.
2) I don't know how to review past games, nor do I have any intention on doing that for alisae or anyone else. I don't need to meta read everyone - it's the nice thing about being new to a community.
3) because backtracking looks scummy and scum don't want to do it. They already have to reach for fake reasons to town/scum read people, so doing it as minimally as possible is their ideal strategy.
Get a clue. Ask how. Being new does not exclude you from taking into account any and all information.
How is back tracking scummy? Doing or saying something that shows you no longer agree or in support happens all the time. It’s about why one back tracks. Also scum don’t always have to reach for reasons to town read or scum read someone.-
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Yeah it is. You’re implying I made an assumptation that has no basis. I pointed out how it does.
This is not a possibility, this is an assumptation.In post 244, sub4hire wrote:
He'sIn post 241, Alisae wrote:I think LUV says that as either alignment~subtly calling serg town, which seems like it could be a TMI read
It wouldn’t be a waste but you’ll never know because you refuse to do it. Even after acknowledging it isn’t too much trouble to ask for instances or read 2 or 3 games.
You’re implying that every person finds it annoying or difficult to do as scum which just isn’t true. You’re making something NAI scummy.-
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Honestly I think you should first assume I have no read on said player and not that I have a town read there.In post 611, Boonskiies wrote:
Sure, but when someone stops a scum push, it generally shows they have reasonable doubt that that person isn’t scum, meaning they think there’s a reasonable chance of being town.In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A sensible assumptation would be thinking I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.
Basically, I’m stating the same thing to you about Sub, if that makes sense. I don’t think he’s scum for what you’re accusing him of.
Or just ask. I think town at least asks why you disagree or do I have town read on said player.-
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Dude you’re claiming I did something. You claimed that I subtly stated a town read on Serg. That’s an assumptation.In post 612, sub4hire wrote:It's not an assumption. It's my read on your wording. You saying it's not a possibility and an assumption is laughable because it's about yourself. It wasn't even a strong read and you're acting like I was damning you. The fact you're getting so defensive about it is scummy.
It would be a waste because I have better things to do than review old games. I can just give my reads as they come instead of being a mindless dolt who can only read people based off of past games.
I'm not making an assumption. I'm stating something that I've noticed from 10 years of playing mafia online. It's obviously not all-encompassing, but it's a good place to start. Call it a meta read-
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No.In post 617, sub4hire wrote:I NEVER ASSUMED YOUR TOWN READ. I SAID THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE TMI!!!!
No. You assumed I subtly stated he’s town and then described the read as whatever a TMI read is.-
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EBWOP.In post 621, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Then you should’ve just said that it felt like I was calling him town and not that I subtly stated a town read him. In fact, why didn’t you?-
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So why are you surprised that I’m defensive here?In post 623, sub4hire wrote:Because it was a note-to-self post to look back on.When I make a correlation read like that, it's not something that I focus on until later in the game. Would you like me to link you to a game where I make the same exact post that turned out to be correct?-
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Actually, why do you find it scummy?In post 626, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
So why are you surprised that I’m defensive here?In post 623, sub4hire wrote:Because it was a note-to-self post to look back on.When I make a correlation read like that, it's not something that I focus on until later in the game. Would you like me to link you to a game where I make the same exact post that turned out to be correct?-
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In what world outside of RVS is someone stating pre-flip association insignificant?
It matters because you’re claiming I did something that I did not do. To expect anyone not to be this defensive, is disingenuous.
I think you’ve been caught making an assumptation that had little to no basis and I think you’re caught scum.-
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All you proved is that you make pre-flip associations. My issue is your reasoning for making the one about me. Not the pre-flip association itself. I didn’t praise meta reads at all. I just said meta should be taken into account. But go ahead, continue to misrep.-
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There’s a lot I could say about this game if I actually followed along after replacing out. I’m not going to brag about being right because I didn’t make a sincere effort to convince everyone else despite me thinking it was obvious that sub was scum based on why I voted for him.
Only advice I can give for now is to just really sit down and think about motivation. Part of why I replaced out is because I couldn’t understand what was scummy about tchill’s behavior and why it couldn’t come from town.-
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Novice is a modifier that prevents someone from acting Night 1.In post 2389, reaverb wrote:
What is the Novice Vigilante mechanic?In post 2382, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Side note: I love vigilantes but I really think they should always be novice and limited to just 1 or 2 shots.-
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- Find a play style that works for you and stick with it.
- Reread games you've played in months after the fact. There is so much you can learn about mistakes you made, stuff you missed, how people reacted now that you know the entire setup.
I think if you do those two things, you will find your game improving by leaps and bounds-
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As someone who has been accused of doing so, I think it comes from a belief and expectation that the accused can play better as town and even has.In post 2523, Tchill13 wrote:
i've seen this post from diffferent ppl.In post 2502, Apple Jack wrote:Idk about mu but here townies are downgrading their town meta so they can play better as scum.
my first thought is if you don't try your hardset to win every game as either alignment you shouldn't be playing. I would think both games would develop in a similar manner. If i am getting better at scum hunting I should in turn learn what not to do as scum.
because you throw this in with unexperienced players (such as myself) that are really trying and see scummy play from other townies doing this "holding back" it will lead to a lot of losses on lack of effort.
i think a player named vedith made the most sense on this topic. The only ppl trying to look towny are scum. As town You don't win by looking towny you win by lynching scum, scum hunting. So when a player comes off as just looking towny because he's "holding back" i'm gonna be willing to lynch him almost every time.
As scum you just have to "scum hunt" but it has to make sense, from my understanding at least. Most players that i've seen that I consider "bad" as scum is ppl that just try to look towny, or ppl that don't make near as much sense as scum "scum hunting" compared to when they're town. So they dumb down their reasoning as town and their scum game benefits.
So when ppl are "holding back" to benefit their scum game I'd almost consider it game thrwoing. What can you do though?
i just hate that ppl do this. Someone commented in one of my early games that my town game would benefit my scum game through play style alone. I didn't intend that and i try just as hard as both i've just found a play style i believe is sufficient as both alignments which was totally by just playing the game and unintentional. Of course i've only played for a few months and ik i have a lot to learn
this is just an issue that's been bothering me which resulted in the longish post.
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