Large Normal 206: World Record Mafia! (GAME OVER)

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VOTE: osuka

Serious vote

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Whoever played with me before knows I'm actually serious when I say "serious vote"

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Oh hi kraska.

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Is there someting about Creature I should know?

yes, that I want RVS to end hence why I declared my vote on osuka serious.

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VOTE: osuka

Let's end this RVS wagon on MM4.

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VOTE: UnaBombaH

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I really hate RVS, I can never tell when people are joking or being serious

I was serious about osuka, I'm serious about UnaBombaH.

You're welcome to join.

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No, you don't need to exaggerate. Sometimes the case on a single post is way more convincing than the case on the entire ISO.

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Disagree.

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Disagree.

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Theta, would you go back to

VOTE: Eddie Cane?

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There's nothing wrong, just thought it didn't exist.

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Ugh, this game annoys me.

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Not joining that LQ wagon 2.0.

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Wait, he was scumreading you?

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Who else would you wagon?

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Oh well.

I don't really want to wagon these so called "deep scumreads", so far I see only unproductive wagons.

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It is!

If my vote on you is wrong, though, I have the rest of D1 and plenty of dayphases in which to lynch scum. It's not a huge deal if I'm voting town mid D1.

It is a huge deal if there are only unproductive wagons D1.

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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lol I didn't notice that wagon.

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I was talking about MM4 wagon.

He may not be fully town, but I doubt his wagon would be productive.

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Just warning, I might go lurky this game because I'm not getting good reads.

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For defending lurking.

Huh?

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Lurking is scummy, what's so hard to see about that?

Lurking is scummy, but defending lurking?

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I'm used to get plenty of good townreads from 14 pages.

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well i just got back

and i really want to say something about another game right now
but i will not because that would be bad

so i might not post for a bit to avoid inadvertently talking about that other game

in other words
excuse me if it seems i am lurking for a bit
i am just avoiding breaking one of the main rules of play on mafiascum

I'm sorry Theta. :/

-_-

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Una is obvious town

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Whatev

VOTE: massive

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Well, I townread Ignition anyway.

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Anyone wanna play town with me trying to find scum between lots of Mulch spamposts?

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Also, the Yu-Gi-Oh opening from 1998 doesn't get off my head.

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I've learned that Mulch spamposting is actually a scum strategy.

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I thought the foe mechanism worked.

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I don't feel like tracking my townreads for today, but I guess I'm getting plenty rn.

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Gonna put Mulch as "posting tolerably" for now.

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Gonna have a whole tuesday out.

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Haven't you said Una was obvious town?

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I guess I should've kept track of my townreads.

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Anyway, any wagon that could possibly interest me?

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Why is the wall poster being scumread?

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Judging from Theta's play, do you think the player behind it is experienced?

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I know I'm not supposed to be asking this, but: In your vision, why did Ignition choose to replace out?

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Why was Eddie town again?

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osuka still looks bad.

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The replace out or 554?

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Game Replacement who probably still didn't post.

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The problem of Yumeko wallposting is that nobody will read the walls and nobody will have an actual decent read on him/her.

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Want to wagon him?

Meh whatever

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There are plenty of players I'd love to wagon...

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A member of a mafia faction cannot perform an ability and kill at the same time.

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VOTE: Excession

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As long nobody claims prematurely, we should be fine.

For now the setup is balanced. Everytime a town PR claims, it slightly becomes more scumsided.

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nero
mulch
theta
boon

can we agree these are all town?

Not now.

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Still gonna focus on my scumreads.

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Townblock will appear when we're likely estabilishing a lynch.

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Feels like pretty easy for scum to join that townblock at this point.

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Good, we just need a decent wagon¹ now.

¹ = Decent is like "this is actually serious and if you don't town up it's likely hitting 11 votes"

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but he isn't, he's probably VT tbh

Thank you for this very valuable info

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Wait, someone claimed already?

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Never gonna understand why there was eight pages of Boon spam.

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I'm not fine with the current wagons we've had so far. Though, I'm not that fine to leave the Excession wagon already.

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Btw, can I trust no one else will claim without a reason?

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I'll stick with Excession wagon.

Won't give scum the luxury of knowing whether they're next or not.

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How many votes Excession is at?

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I know we shouldn't claim without a reason, but we also shouldn't force someone to claim without a reason.

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Not lynching Boon today.

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I could expect idiots like Mulch and Creature

Take me out from that list.

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Maybe I'd sheep Nero if it wouldn't be on Boon.

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Oh, my heart can't stand. Mary wagon is so beautiful but Excession wagon is more.

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I feel like they're scum blending in.

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Another player everybody forgot about...

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VOTE: Mary

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Though, I might come back to the Excession wagon.

You better not think it's officially dead.

It may come back full force.

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Yumeko Jabami - wallposter, right? those walls are town.

loooooool

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I could just play the funny for now, but I'm lacking memes.

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I agree with all of your reads from massive to above. From Yumeko to below I'd only put TwoInAMillion as town.

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Eddie Cane
Game Replacement

UnaBombaH
Theta Alpine
Boonskiies
Nero Cain
Dunkerdoodles
TwoInAMillion
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massive

davesaz
osuka
Excession
Assemblerotws
wavemode
Yumeko Jabami
Mary Soatome
Zoki77

MarioManiac4
Mulch
Flairs

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Eddie Cane - Lurking scum
Game Replacement - Ignition seemed somewhatly town, but not enough
davesaz - Not notably scum
osuka - One of my main scumreads
Excession - One of my main scumreads
Assemblerotws - My gut tells town (mostly because PV)
wavemode - Profile of scum blending in
Yumeko Jabami - Not sortable enough
Mary Soatome - One of my main scumreads
Zoki77 - Replaced out, maybe just town

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Eddie Cane + osuka + Excession + wavemode + Mary Soatome?

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Even though I got plenty of strong townreads, I'd rather not settle on a townblock rn.

I trust we can work as a whole and settle on a good lynch rather than needing someone to dictate.

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Like
You need to be able to actually lead town and make people say "Creature is right here" or "Creature will lead us in the right direction."
Right now it's just "Oh Creature made some reads and posts, whatever."

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I know it's a fallacy, but still.

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Btw, is it safe to assume that any town will answer to pressure instead of waiting its wagon dissipate out of nowhere?

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Yes, scum can answer to pressure. But town lurk out while there's a wagon on them?

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Meh whatever.

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I just hope it doesn't get to the point where someone can't be online for two whole days.

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Heh that readslist from Flairs.

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Guessing wavemode has a decent chance of flipping scum.

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VOTE: osuka

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Sorta wanted there was a single (or maybe two) big wagon rather than three tied short wagons.

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Gerry
Million
Osuka
Boonskiies
Mulch

All very much town.

Nero I'm thinking town.
Mario I'm actually thinking Scum.

Rest of Scum are letting town fight among themselves.

Yay

Let's pick out the players spamposting at this moment, say they're town and treat the rest as scum.

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Has davesaz done something?

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Most upset because it seems like you saw which players were posting at the moment you were posting and tagged them as town.

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Look at me, I'm still not wanting to vote gerryoat.

I wonder why.

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Do we do osuka or Excession? We gotta decide.

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Btw, if anyone is feeling that good nostalgia of wanting to start a new wagon like me, I have a suggestion of something we can do together...

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like anyone would buy the day cop...

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Anyone else?

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^reply from MM4

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If you hardclaim I will refuse to vote Excession until lylo ftr.

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VOTE: Assemblerotws

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How I love these slips.

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Creature, I think you're more confident / proactive sounding than the last time I saw you. I think you were flipfloppy and sheepy before. Where'd the change come from? I want to know if I'm justified in having a stronger gut townread than in previous games.

Huh what? I don't feel much different, except maybe I went less interested.

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Still not voting goat.

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Feeling like Assemble is acting like caught scum.

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Excession or Assemblerowts, any of them is a good wagon.

Or if you want, we could go da da daa, wagon someone new.

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mulch/mario/boon/wave/gerry.

Sure sure sure

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That ragequit...

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???

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I don't think you're in danger of being lynched.

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bp enabler is not conf town.

Still it interests for scum to kill him.

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I could also wagon the guy shading here...

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Oh, but damn, that Assemble wagon is still beautiful, the Excession wagon was beautiful too.

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Yeah let's just end this day.

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Not lynching gerry, not lynching Boon.

May consider policy lynching those that insists pushing them.

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Why is Eddie town again?

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After Assemble, osuka is likely the next place I'll push.

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Potentially Eddie too.

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Oh right, we all forgot about Game Replacement.

Good strategy there GM, pretty sure you'll get the chance to use your strongman/roleblocker tonight.

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Sorta wanted to test another wagon, but I'm afraid it'll end on these shitty gerry and Boon wagons.

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VOTE: wavemode

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gerryoat (9): massive, davesaz, Flairs, Nero Cain, osuka, UnaBombaH, TwoInAMillion, Assemblerowts, Mulch

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massive is probably just a lurker
davesaz can be scum
Flairs idk rn
Nero Cain is town
osuka scummy
UnaBombaH is town
TwoInAMillion is town
Assemblerowts is preserving himself lol
Mulch is still somewhatly town

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I guess it would be ideal if it were I'm PR.

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Probably because I wouldn't want to shout at him rn if he were scum.

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which is why he said lurker not town or scum

That plus I know it's your playstyle to not be noticeable.

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VOTE: Eddie Cane

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I guess it should be general that every normal game with more than 17 players should have a plurality lynch mechanism.

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Oh these stupid claims.

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No matter how much I shout there'll always be three claims D1.

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Which wagon should we do that isn't horrible?

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What about Game Replacement?

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VOTE: Game Replacement

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From your scum list, I could do Yumeko, wavemode and Mary Saotome.

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All three of us isn't enough, we need more support.

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Let's take predictions on if gerry flips town or scum. I vote scum. He doesn't seem to be putting up much resistance which sounds like scum not wanting to scumpaint their buddies.

I vote town.

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I think Gerrygoat is actually scum. Not claiming the stuff about the JOAT is bullshit.

It's justifiable for me.

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TwoInAMillion isn't that good counterwagon...

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Yeah, I don't think he's scum. I would do Boons though probably.

Correct. Wrong.

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NERO WAGON IS A GO GO

No, it isn't.

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Wave is probably town.

Huh why?

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imo Yumeko should try shorter posts.

Wallposts, beside generally not being read, take much time to make.

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Want to wagon yumeko?

I'd be wagoning someone I'm null at instead of the plenty scumreads I got. Though, I may try that.

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I don't feel like leading a wagon today, but I'd rather follow a wagon I think will flip scum.

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Yeah, still think Nero Cain is town.

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Yes, for some reason I don't think scum!gerry would admit he's JOAT.

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idk, sorta expected someone coulda pull a good wagon for me.

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Huh? gerryoat would've been lynched if you considered votecount errors?

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Possibly.

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Likely. They'd either notice 3 members is too short or their name flavor would hint (incase they have 4 members).

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Why no one wants to try another wagon over gerryoat?

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Feels like designated mislynch.

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VOTE: Game Replacement

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Sorta lazy to look who's in gerry wagon, but from what I reckon, everybody's here because they're lazy to push elsewhere.

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Last time I lynched a JOAT claim it turned out to be bad...

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Most likely gerry will die on his own.

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Not happy with lynching TIAM.

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I'd be willing to VOTE: Game Replacement

Good wagon here.

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While it seems scum are fine with either gerry or TIAM lynched, scum doesn't seem fine with GR being the lynch.

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Feeling like KidAmn is town for now.

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I guess he claimed something...

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So no.

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Wished we didn't have to lynch a PR or one of my townreads today.

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My last vote was on GR.

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Never knew GR was Vedith...

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GR wagon already going to collapse?

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If we separate ourselves into two different wagons on scum, most likely this will end in a nolynch.

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Scum don't snap claim like that, they think things through

So that sorta clears gerryoat?

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Bad idea.

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Imagine how happy scum would be if a town JOAT was lynched.

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Imagine how happy scum would be if someone that's pretty easy to read was lynched and flipped town.

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Even if the lurker flips town, we basically lynched someone we would likely lynch later. Plus the scumpool will shrink.

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Okay, assemble can be town.

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Eddie Cane

Game Replacement

UnaBombaH
Theta Alpine
Boonskiies
Nero Cain
Dunkerdoodles
TwoInAMillion
Creature

massive
davesaz
osuka

Kidamn
Assemblerotws

wavemode
Yumeko Jabami
Mary Soatome

gerryoat
MarioManiac4
Mulch
Flairs

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Okay, we already outed enough PRs just to lynch scum!GR.

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Just admit you're wrong, you're being unable to find scum and sheep who's actualy doing better.

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Heh, not fan of that vigpool.

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And no, would rather not have scum know who you're shooting.

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Who do we lynch then?

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Besides GR and Assemble, like every other wagon intention sucks.

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And then these Mulch scumreads suddenly appear...

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but a vig should believe there could be a BP, no?

Not necessarily.

Town BP to counter vigilante doesn't make much sense. Scum BP I can understand, but it's heh.

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Do you know why we constantly see scum lurkers surviving to endgame?

Because towns act like "let vig take care of them" and eventually these lurkers are in LyLo where nobody will want to lynch them because "they're unsure about them".

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Any way I'll get a wagon I won't hate?

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It's pro-town to not lynch a vigilante or a JOAT claim D1.

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It's pro-town to not lynch a vigilante or a JOAT claim D1.

don't say anything but its the scum and bad town that's voting TIAM.

Oh yeah
Scum: Mary Saotome, Game Replacement, osuka
Bad town: Boonskiies, Eddie Cane, Dunkerdoodles

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it's that we gain less if they're town.

Pretty sure we can get better info if we do one of the main wagons. GR turned out to be one of them.

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It would be bad if we lynched a town PR or a town that's influential to the game.

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OK so. how about this. Since game is prob gonna be the lynch today. Million has a vig pool of [Massive, Assemble] i'm sure everyone can agree to that

Add davesaz, wavemode and Mary Saotome.

Solved.

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Because he's doing absolutely nothing and many of his counterwagons were town.

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What do you mean the alternatives were town?

gerryoat
Assemblerowts
TwoInAMillion

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Still counting this as a town win on my wiki.

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The fact is that SK is hard to balance, whether they'll get caught or will make the game unfun. I only see them being used to increase the number of antitown nightkills and swing the game. Better to find alternatives rather than simply adding them.