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Post Post #1901 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:10 am

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:igmeou:
Also I knew mulch's phases are shorter but 2 days? I have ongoing games I didn't expect this to be that fast
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:12 am

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Ugh you just fixed it didn't you

Anyway, I didn't really read all the thread because it's 74 pages but I feel confident to just catch up on stuff while the day is going.
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:17 am

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Sup
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:24 am

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@Aliase

Have you done this faces thing in any other game? I don't think I ever saw you doing it
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:09 am

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In post 1907, Apple Jack wrote:VOTE: why

His apology for his vote and him knowing dunkers was going to hammer is just more bad things against him.
How is "knowing dunkers is going to hammer" a scum tell? I can see the apologize argument because if he is scum he knew Kaz is scum flip and apologized because he felt bad, but him 'knowing' dunkers is going to hammer is nothing but WIFOM
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:11 am

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Sub4Hire = IaMRobik ?
And do you scum read him because he didn't catch scum? but this can be applied to anyone who was on the wagon...
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:12 am

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In post 1908, WhyMafia wrote:LOL "knowing Dunker would hammer"
My apology for my vote was because I didn't think he was
town
, but on the off-chance he was scum, I could apply L-1 pressure.
You mean scum?
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 1914, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 1910, Michael22Omega wrote:
In post 1907, Apple Jack wrote:VOTE: why

His apology for his vote and him knowing dunkers was going to hammer is just more bad things against him.
How is "knowing dunkers is going to hammer" a scum tell? I can see the apologize argument because if he is scum he knew Kaz is scum flip and apologized because he felt bad, but him 'knowing' dunkers is going to hammer is nothing but WIFOM
It’s scummy and I already thought he wa scum. He’s literally done nothing townish so he gets my vote.
I mean I get if you had this read before but just throwing a wifom argument there makes it sound less convincing
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:03 am

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In post 1915, Alisae wrote:
In post 1911, Michael22Omega wrote:Sub4Hire = IaMRobik ?
And do you scum read him because he didn't catch scum? but this can be applied to anyone who was on the wagon...
I expect robitk to have decent reads not look like he's manipulating people.
I mostly gave into lynching Klazam to get a better read on him
I only saw robik as scum so far and he seems to have high volume most of the game as town. Catching him as scum probably isn't too hard I'll see
In post 1920, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1918, Alisae wrote:Hay boon what are your reads and did you survive the apocalypse in LA?
It looks like ya did
I’m in the North bay fires. I survived it. I get to go home next week so long as nothing crazy happens.


I have town reads on Why, Tchill, Tacos, and my Derpy read has changed also.

That Sub/LUV 1 on 1 does have me lean scum towards scum, like a scum creating a logical argument to fight LUV that would end up making him look better in the long run, if that makes sense? I do that when I’m scum. I’m a little paranoid of you, but I don’t think anything you’ve done is inherently scummy. I usually have a town read on a Assemble by this time, and I don’t, so he’s probably scum. I don’t have many strong scum reads this game, but I’m happy with my town reads. You guys might not like the Tchill/Why, but I just have a lot of familiarity with them both, and feel I can read them.
Do you think why/Derpy are t/t?
In post 1922, Alisae wrote:Ok so in TRs were in sync for except Tchill but tbh I think I'll trust you for a bit.
Being paranoid of me is fine I guess.
Assemble I guess I'm also okay with it being scum

I think the scumteam is Mikey/Sub/(Assemble or Tchill) tbh
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:10 am

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In post 1933, Alisae wrote:Like I'm trying to be a productive person lynching scum you're just being straight up fucking useless or are scum

Pedit: No
Your whole approach to this game is you being manipulative you're just victim blaming now.
In post 1842, Alisae wrote:VOTE: klazam
Sure sub lets do this
In post 1931, sub4hire wrote: Now Alisae is trying to put all the blame onto me for the mislynch even though she was the one who basically got me to get back onto it after I had basically given up. Think about that and think about who is actually being manipulative.
Aliase I think he is actually telling the truth here
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:12 am

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You remind me RC rn
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Post Post #1966 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1958, Alisae wrote:
Pedit: Yeah I sorta get my playstyle from RC a bit :3
We were masons yesterday in Amrock turbo
Scum lynch every day :]
But the thing that actually reminded him in you is that the way you're pushing sub rn feels like the way he was pushing mislynches, confident AF and then there is town flip
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:19 am

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In post 1968, Alisae wrote:Mikey
That's how I push every lynch
Okay this just ruined my theory I was starting to make
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:21 am

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In post 1969, Tchill13 wrote:I'm tired of ppl getting town read because they do "not so great things" or play poorly as town. That's not an adequate reason to tr someone. "Oh he's bad as town and I'm used to his bad plays so he's town here" what kind of defense is that?
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:25 am

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Boon seems passive
Tchill feels wrong
Aliase seems hyped
Robik seems robik

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Post Post #1976 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:30 am

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VOTE: Boonskiies
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:49 am

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In post 1979, Boonskiies wrote:How am I passive? I’ve given my entire reads list. I’ve been commenting on nearly everything directed towards em, and on the Alisae/Tchill feud. Would you rather me jump in there and be overly aggressive with them?

I put my read out on Sub, who Alisae is pushing, and I stated I have paranoia and could see Alisae as scum, which is giving me pause. Tchill is a stated town read of mine.

Can you explain to me what of my play is me being passive, or why that it’s scummy for me to be passive. I’m a rather aggressive scum player.
It's just when I read your posts, I didn't really feel like anything interesting to comment about them, I felt like you kind of just made town reads and then your scum reads are like 1 scum inside them two rather than actually giving your scum read. The thing that concerned me was that you town read two people who vote each other and didn't say about it.
The thing with sub is, he is being serious. Like he notices a scum read on him and right there comes and calls it bullshit even though he is busy, very straight forward. But Aliase is playing like RC so she is not changing her read ever pretty much.
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:54 am

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:roll:
[unv]Boonskiies[/unv]
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:54 am

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ummm
UNVOTE: Boonskiies
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:57 am

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I don't think this FOS after I voted you comes from scum
I didn't even read into your reason too deep I just feel by the volume of the post
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:00 am

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Dunkerdoodles feels commendatory
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:03 am

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:roll:
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Post Post #1993 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:03 am

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So who would be the scum
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Post Post #1996 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 1995, Alisae wrote:Like Mikey I said this already :/
But I'm in a world where I'm town
So who would be the scum if you/dunker/boon/sub are town
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:07 am

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Don't even try that Amrock never has vengeful in his setups
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:12 am

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In post 2000, Boonskiies wrote:To be fair, I don’t know if Mulch has ever modded a game here on mafiascum, so we don’t know his style.
I think I played every single one of the 50 games he modded
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:20 am

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VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:23 am

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In post 2008, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2006, Tchill13 wrote:Vote me alisae
VOTE: Me Alisae

VOTE: Michael
You see this is why I should avoid pushing people before I read enough
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:02 am

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It's not even a read list he just wrote his scum guess in scum and than wrote the rest in town
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:04 pm

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In post 2034, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 2030, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2024, Boonskiies wrote:Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?
1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.
Yeah, Alisae’s probably scum with Michael, though trying to pocket Why. I don’t like how she isn’t pushing Michael yet was putting him as scum with Sub, and Michael was posting.

Also curious as to why Tchill is targeting Why over Alisae, but I’m generally town reading Tchill. He’s more submissive in confrontations when he’s scum.
So you think I'm bussing when I push Alisae but say it's scummy when Alisae isn't voting me?
In post 2043, WhyMafia wrote:Im town reading Toranga/Michael slot
Where is the post that explains the scum read on that slot?
:)
There is no real post, Alisae just wrote me as scum with sub and that's it.
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:13 pm

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In post 2051, Sergtacos wrote:VOTE: Whymafia
Hey?
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:34 pm

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Lol k
I mean I might be pocketed by him town reading me so I'm not really commenting on this, but I think Aliase is more scummy. I feel like she actually knows who the scum are and just pockets town by listing many people as town, I don't feel like there is pure thought process there.
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:42 pm

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That's omgus
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Post Post #2061 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:43 pm

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Ok now this is serious
Why is it full of shit
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 2056, Michael22Omega wrote:Lol k
I mean I might be pocketed by him town reading me so I'm not really commenting on this, but I think Aliase is more scummy. I feel like she actually knows who the scum are and just pockets town by listing many people as town, I don't feel like there is pure thought process there.
Hey Alisae/tacos
Where is the shit
Let me read this for you and let's figure this out together
Lol k
Me saying okay eh, is saying okay full of shit? idts
I mean I might be pocketed by him town reading me
Yes I tend to like people who town read there is no shit here
so I'm not really commenting on this
Because I tend to like people who town read, I don't feel confident commenting on this wagon. This is me being unsure, where is the shit?
but I think Aliase is more scummy
My opinion on Alisae being more scummy than whymafia, no shit here
I feel like she actually knows who the scum are
This is a thing that every scum has, they know the scum team. I'm stating a fact here, it can't be shit
just pockets town by listing many people as town
This is the reason I think she knows the scum team(my previous argument) she lists people in town who I don't think worth town reading and couple of players agreed with it. It's not a shit and if you consider it is it doesn't worth a vote because couple people shared tihs opinion
I don't feel like there is pure thought process there.
And this is the conclusion, to my above non-shot arguments. It can't be shit because the previous arguments aren't shit

WHERE IS THE SHIT???
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:47 pm

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In post 2087, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: Alisae
So much talk about pressuring this slot and I see no action
Hey I tried
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:50 pm

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In post 2103, Alisae wrote:Man I most of pocketed this whole town beautifully to get fucking wagoned because fucking ~Star Wars~
And I highly believe
there probably even isn't a case
and will never be a case because you people don't want to case people because ~Star Wars~

So I wouldn't mind dieing and taking a loss here
In post 2104, Alisae wrote:Like
Mikey's push on me is mostly because
I attempted to pocket people by calling a bunch of people town which never works.
The fact he thinks it does is mindblowning but hey you guys WANT to shoot yourself in the foot.
Go on ahead and do whatever

I'm a Day 4 Innocent Child
You contradict yourself and there is already an innocent child
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:53 pm

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In post 2128, Dunkerdoodles wrote:mulch wouldn't put 2 ICs in a game i don't think
Yeh, he would never do it. And there was never cycle 4 innocent child in any of his turbos
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:56 pm

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Alisae you're not a bad town and I never saw you fake claiming as town, you're scum. You can now die
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:09 pm

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Okay....
Alisae game threw yesterday by claiming innocent child and forcing our innocent child to reveal and having terrible reads, but can we just treat it as mislynch and move on? I'm not going to blame anyone who voted there(I actually think it's more likely scum stayed off to not be called out for voting town) but please don't go mad at that into extent this thread gets so pissed about that.

I went over most of the thread yesterday, my strongest town read at this point would be tacos, I read over it and I liked his tone every time he posted, I felt like the posts he made aren't the way scum play the game. All his posts don't seem like he is trying to fake anything, he is pressuring scum reads town reading people and posts seem like he's also having fun.

I think there is probably one scum between Tchil13/why and Derpy/why. I think either they both power wolfed to push him or he is just scum and they mindmelded. If it is why I think Boon might be scum with him, just according to vote patterns really.
I'll try to read more deeply, feels uncomfortable to give one name and scream to vote him right now because lynch or lose and I had some wrong town games lately.
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 2173, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 2171, Michael22Omega wrote:I went over most of the thread yesterday, my strongest town read at this point would be tacos, I read over it and I liked his tone every time he posted, I felt like the posts he made aren't the way scum play the game. All his posts don't seem like he is trying to fake anything, he is pressuring scum reads town reading people and posts seem like he's also having fun.
How do you understand his reads? To me, it seems like he switched around a heck of a lot of times and changed stances over and over. However, I do agree his tone has been good
I think it's town thought process when he notices something scummy and he questions it very loud, like changing font to large when he was pushing Boon to make sure people will read it, I don't think scum are gonna draw that attention to themselves. And I agree with his reads because the two people he actually wrote in font 5 about were Boon and derpy, and they're both still alive.
reaverb wrote:Hi.

I have only skimmed the thread and looked at all the vote counts.

Right now I think Tchill and Micheal22Omega are scummy and WhyMafia is Towny, with Tacos + Sub4hire also Town if Tchill flips scum (although Sub4hire anti-alignment is weak).
Agreed with Tacos, why do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:23 pm

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In post 2178, Mulch wrote:Vc
quote :p
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:25 pm

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Is there any way to find iso without viewing the user's post?
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:30 pm

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Okay this is interesting
All the 3 people acid votes are still alive
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Post Post #2188 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:46 pm

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Alive people vote history


WhyMafia
Spoiler:
Boon
Tacos
Tchill
Acid
klazam


Acid/reaverb
Spoiler:
Derpy
sub4hire
assemble
tacos


Boon
Spoiler:
UC
Assemble
Michael


Derpy/Porkens
Spoiler:
whymafia


Sergtacos
Spoiler:
Boon
UC
Aliase
Derpy
Tchill
Acid
Michael


Tchill
Spoiler:
whymafia
Klazam


sub4hire
Spoiler:
derpy
UC
Michael
Alisaw
whymafia
Klazm


Michael22Omega
Spoiler:
Boon
Alisaew


So If I had to judge based on that it would be something like
Tacos

sub4hire
whymafia
Acid

Michael
Boon
Tchill

Derpy


Not strongly convinced yet by this, but it's some data for me to make sense out of things
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:47 pm

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I think it's most important to resolve who is scum between Tchill and whymafia right now, there is most likely one. It's just who is that.
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:18 am

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Boon
Why would you vote me if you say Tchill is scum? You don't know who is the scum between Tchill/whymafia. So your argument of voting me because "I'm scum with tchill is soo weak"
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:19 am

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In post 2223, Michael22Omega wrote:Boon
Why would you vote me if you say Tchill is scum? You don't know who is the scum between Tchill/whymafia. So your argument of voting me because "I'm scum with tchill" is soo weak
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:21 am

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The day organizer claiming thing could make you town
I think that's probably a town role too
But voting me right now is terrible
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:23 am

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Do you think we should mass claim?
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 2227, Porkens wrote:Sure, I'm VT. You go next.
VOTE: Pokerns
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:17 am

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I'm 2 shot neapolitan
N1 Alisae no result
N2 Derpy has a role
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:19 am

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I thought it made Alisae scum yesterday, but I think I was just jailkeeped by UC
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:11 am

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In post 2233, Porkens wrote:What's a neopolitan?

Oh sorry I forgot I'm not vt.
What

I was hoping you would counter claim me or something
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:12 am

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And I can check someone and see if they're VT or not two time
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:13 am

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I think it's reasonable to ask you to claim your role?
I don't want to call this lock scum because Alisae did same thing but.... how would you forget your role?
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 2243, Porkens wrote:Sure. I am a 2-shot town commuter. If I activate my ability at night, any night actions that target me will fail.

Derpy activated it night 1.
We already have a jailkeeper, vanilla cop, innocent child, neighborizer, vig?

I think only way you make sense as town is if scum have 1-shotvig because this role is pretty OP with what we already have

Btw, I think you should know I'm mechanically always town because the innocent child had all action fail on him, meaning he can't be investigated by me so this mechanic was just there to make it harder for him to survive until the end.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:18 am

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Tchil I think you should claim, this is lynch or lose
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:22 am

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In post 2249, WhyMafia wrote:Oh vanilla cop is the same as neopolitian nvm
yeh
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:29 am

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In post 2251, Porkens wrote:
vote: Tchill


Claim pal.
What changed from the beginning when you didn't scum read him?
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:32 am

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In post 2184, Porkens wrote:Dunker
Whymafia
Sub
In post 2185, Porkens wrote:And maybe taco
Seriously though can you explained what this meant
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:12 pm

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In post 2255, Boonskiies wrote:Neapolitan gets vanilla on VT only. Vanilla Cop gets not vanilla on Goon.
Oh ok didn't realize there was a differnce
But ye I'm Neapolitan
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:14 pm

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In post 2256, Boonskiies wrote:Porkers
Tchill
Why
Reaverb/Acid
Sub

2 of these guys are town, and the rest are scum. One of the town are likely in Why/Tchill because that’s not S/S.

Which means 1 town in Sub/Reaverb/Porkers. Gonna do some iso reading.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 2261, Porkens wrote:Michael, do you give a shit if he claims or not?
I feel like if he is power role he is going to claim vanilla, if he is vanilla he is gonna claim power role and if he is mafia he is gonna claim something that I will believe
So no, not really
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:57 pm

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In post 2263, reaverb wrote:
In post 1475, Mulch wrote:
Vote Count 1.23
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Assemblerotws
(6):
acidphoenix (reaverb slot), Alisae
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Toranaga (M22O slot),
UC Voyager
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Sergtacos, Tchill13
[L-1]

Derpy Hooves(4):Boonskiies, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles, Assemblertows
[L-3]

Klazam (1):Sub4hire
[L-6]

Not voting (2): Derpy Hooves, Klazam

[/color]

Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-15 15:30:30)
This strongly implies M22O is scum, I could only see an alternative if tacos is scum, which M22O himself has claimed is not the case. (PS if you're not comfortable reading me as Town note the main reason to read M22O scum are the townies directly adjacent to him)

I also did not like the way Toranaga posted about things from forever ago in the thread, it's something I've seen a lot more from scum than Town.

Sorry if I seem disorganized, I haven't read the full thread yet. I'll read everything and post a coherent reads list Saturday.

Also when I did my votal analysis I editted a text document in place instead of writing out my chain of logic, which was dumb. I'll re-do it and post it Saturday or Sunday.

Can somebody give mod-gaming on how many prs there are? My first impression is that somebody must be lying in the claims this Day phase but I'm not familiar with mafiascum meta and have heard setups are more townsided here.
I still don't think tacos is scum so you swaying me against him not going to work when your reason is wagonics, and at this point I don't really feel confident with you town because 1) acid barley did anything towny 2) you're pushing me in lynch or lose 3) You're not mentioning tchill, who might be with you

Regarding me claiming Pork is not VT: I don't see how you see it's not natural, he literally claimed something I knew for a fact he isn't. Why wouldn't I counter claim if say I was town? This is lynch or lose, we must lynch scum. I suggested mass claim to increase our chance to lynch scum, I didn't even think about baiting Porkets into claiming power role but boom he just claimed power role. Instantly obviously I thought he was outed scum and I still think he is pretty much outed.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:36 pm

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How the fuck did you almost got to l-1 some people didn't even check in
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #66) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:39 pm

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UNVOTE: Porkens
I want to investigate more, don't like how it reached l-1
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Post Post #2314 (isolation #67) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:39 pm

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In post 2297, Sergtacos wrote:I have seen enough.

VOTE: Porkens
Tacos wtf is this? Why didn't you say anything so far?
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #68) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:42 pm

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It's 12:41 AM at my time
I'm going to sleep
Don't hammer anyone tonight
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Post Post #2335 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:45 am

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In post 2324, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 2314, Michael22Omega wrote:
In post 2297, Sergtacos wrote:I have seen enough.

VOTE: Porkens
Tacos wtf is this? Why didn't you say anything so far?
homecoming week. im partying my ass off.
Okay but this does not mean you can just put someone at l-1 and get away with that
I now think you might be scum if Poke is town because this is like you tried to quick hammer :cry:
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Post Post #2336 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:46 am

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In post 1893, Mulch wrote:
Vote Count 1.30
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Klazam (7):Alisae, Sub4hire, Tchill13, Sergtacos, UC Voyager, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles
[LYNCH]

Derpy Hooves(2):Boonskiies,Assemblertows
[L-5]

Sergtacos (2): Toranaga, Acidphoenix
[L-5]

Tchill13(1):Klazam
[L-6]

Not voting (1): Derpy Hooves

[/color]
Wait what
My slot didn't even vote the day 1 wagon?
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Post Post #2337 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:47 am

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In post 2263, reaverb wrote:
In post 1475, Mulch wrote:
Vote Count 1.23
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Assemblerotws
(6):
acidphoenix (reaverb slot), Alisae
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Toranaga (M22O slot),
UC Voyager
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Sergtacos, Tchill13
[L-1]

Derpy Hooves(4):Boonskiies, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles, Assemblertows
[L-3]

Klazam (1):Sub4hire
[L-6]

Not voting (2): Derpy Hooves, Klazam

[/color]

Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-15 15:30:30)
This strongly implies M22O is scum, I could only see an alternative if tacos is scum, which M22O himself has claimed is not the case. (PS if you're not comfortable reading me as Town note the main reason to read M22O scum are the townies directly adjacent to him)

I also did not like the way Toranaga posted about things from forever ago in the thread, it's something I've seen a lot more from scum than Town.

Sorry if I seem disorganized, I haven't read the full thread yet. I'll read everything and post a coherent reads list Saturday.

Also when I did my votal analysis I editted a text document in place instead of writing out my chain of logic, which was dumb. I'll re-do it and post it Saturday or Sunday.

Can somebody give mod-gaming on how many prs there are? My first impression is that somebody must be lying in the claims this Day phase but I'm not familiar with mafiascum meta and have heard setups are more townsided here.
Why did you quote this vote count specifically? like I'm pretty sure if you scroll through the day you'll find tones of vote counts and obviously town voted town. What's the point of his one specifically? just to give evidence I'm scum?
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Post Post #2338 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:49 am

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In post 2308, Boonskiies wrote:So, I’m going to do a thing to help solidify who’s scum or not.

The following may or may not be true.
Either WhyMafia or Tchill is a vigilante. WhyMafia explained to me he was the vigilante in the neighborhood and shot Assemble due to the activity level, possibly scum, and because he thought that people would truly see Tchill as scum, because he states that it’s super obvious and that he shouldn’t have to shoot him. This is typically how I like vig shots being done, so I agree with this. If this scenario is not true, neither of you claim it right now, please. He shot at Derpy Nght 1.

Now, Tchill as the hypothetical vigilante chose not to shoot Night 1. Night 2 he mentioned Assemble being a good investigative/vig kill. He shot Assemble night 2.

Now, Porkens is voting Tchill, while calling Why scum, and Rev is pushing Michael as scum, and called the vanilla situation setup, yet on his scum teams, he had Porkens potentially not on the team.

Scum benefits from keeping the Why/Tchill situation in a 1v1, as I don’t believe it’s too hard to figure out that one of them is the vigilante since Michael claimed. Now, Porkens is keeping both of them open, making no cases, and kind of stalling while Reav tries to have multiple options outside of them so that one of Why/Tchill will shoot the other and win the game that way. Right now we’re 3-5, so a mislynch and a miskill wins.

It’s also why Porkens would be wanting Tchill to claim so much, and why it doesn’t make sense for Michael to flat out not care.

This is all hypothetical of course. ;)
So why claimed vigilante in neighborhood and vanilla town in the thread?
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:19 am

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Umm
Tchill isn't hammered yet
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:20 am

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So either two scum between pork/why/tacos
Or tchill is scum

Thinking about this throughactually

Thchill only talks about whymafia today, doesn't actually provide spew. I feel like he already knows we'll lynch him anyway and he refuses to give us spew
His iso has a lot of posts in it, but I don't think he is actually trying to game solve.

VOTE: Tchill13

Tchill/reverb/sub?

P-edit yeh I agree boom, think we can lynch it and move on? I really don't see who are scum if he isn't
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:21 am

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Revearb pushing me today was absolutely bullshit, he is also not voting
Lynch him tomorrow
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Post Post #2450 (isolation #76) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:34 pm

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lmao
gg
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #77) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:54 pm

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FWIW I was obvious for people who know my meta but

If I tried to pretend to play my town meta in mafia scum I would most certainly lose
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Post Post #2457 (isolation #78) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:55 pm

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And it's not like I was ever lynch so who cares? you can't call me obvious if people didn't lynch me
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #79) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:28 pm

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If you want to get better at games
Try to play some mafia universe turbos
They're short, only takes 1 hours and usually have 9-10 players unless we make something large
They teach you a lot though, because you need to think fast and find scum fast. Or if you're scum not be frozen
Check out this section for when there will be signups
http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/for ... urbo-Games

You can also signup for games there sure but I feel like it would have less affect on you because long deadlines
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #80) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 2465, Alisae wrote:btw mikey you're great <3
:)
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #81) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:35 pm

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Acid
The thing is
You learn faster if you play turbos
Trying to learn by real game take weeks, you won't become best from 1 game
UC Voyager wrote:Meh

Longer days is better for town
nope
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #82) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:36 pm

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And Acid
You need to town read me right one time
To say you scum read me right
Because you literally scum read me every game
You don't even give a reason it's like your insta vote
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:37 pm

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In post 2479, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 2475, acidphoenix wrote:mu normal games are 36 hour days lol

hard to follow happens but is a only-sign-up-if-you-have-the-time thing
I joined a while ago but seemed like I could never get into a game. Not many in signups
You need to join a mention list and than you'll be mentioned when turbos happen
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Post Post #2488 (isolation #84) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:51 pm

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Umm
Ye lol I think it was only that turbo yesterday
But also the only v/v game we played so yeh


mastina I feel like we didn't have enough power to counter power role but since it's mafia scum seeing how people play here it's not that hard to trick town :roll:
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Post Post #2494 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:56 pm

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In post 2490, acidphoenix wrote:oh i forgot uh

the light game where you were cop
oooh right and I was like I remember you were there but didn't see your name you were under alt
Ye that's too

And yeh lol
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