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How is "knowing dunkers is going to hammer" a scum tell? I can see the apologize argument because if he is scum he knew Kaz is scum flip and apologized because he felt bad, but him 'knowing' dunkers is going to hammer is nothing but WIFOMIn post 1907, Apple Jack wrote:VOTE: why
His apology for his vote and him knowing dunkers was going to hammer is just more bad things against him.- Michael22Omega
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You mean scum?In post 1908, WhyMafia wrote:LOL "knowing Dunker would hammer"
My apology for my vote was because I didn't think he wastown, but on the off-chance he was scum, I could apply L-1 pressure.- Michael22Omega
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I mean I get if you had this read before but just throwing a wifom argument there makes it sound less convincingIn post 1914, Apple Jack wrote:
It’s scummy and I already thought he wa scum. He’s literally done nothing townish so he gets my vote.In post 1910, Michael22Omega wrote:
How is "knowing dunkers is going to hammer" a scum tell? I can see the apologize argument because if he is scum he knew Kaz is scum flip and apologized because he felt bad, but him 'knowing' dunkers is going to hammer is nothing but WIFOMIn post 1907, Apple Jack wrote:VOTE: why
His apology for his vote and him knowing dunkers was going to hammer is just more bad things against him.- Michael22Omega
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I only saw robik as scum so far and he seems to have high volume most of the game as town. Catching him as scum probably isn't too hard I'll seeIn post 1915, Alisae wrote:
I expect robitk to have decent reads not look like he's manipulating people.In post 1911, Michael22Omega wrote:Sub4Hire = IaMRobik ?
And do you scum read him because he didn't catch scum? but this can be applied to anyone who was on the wagon...
I mostly gave into lynching Klazam to get a better read on him
Do you think why/Derpy are t/t?In post 1920, Boonskiies wrote:
I’m in the North bay fires. I survived it. I get to go home next week so long as nothing crazy happens.In post 1918, Alisae wrote:Hay boon what are your reads and did you survive the apocalypse in LA?
It looks like ya did
I have town reads on Why, Tchill, Tacos, and my Derpy read has changed also.
That Sub/LUV 1 on 1 does have me lean scum towards scum, like a scum creating a logical argument to fight LUV that would end up making him look better in the long run, if that makes sense? I do that when I’m scum. I’m a little paranoid of you, but I don’t think anything you’ve done is inherently scummy. I usually have a town read on a Assemble by this time, and I don’t, so he’s probably scum. I don’t have many strong scum reads this game, but I’m happy with my town reads. You guys might not like the Tchill/Why, but I just have a lot of familiarity with them both, and feel I can read them.In post 1922, Alisae wrote:Ok so in TRs were in sync for except Tchill but tbh I think I'll trust you for a bit.
Being paranoid of me is fine I guess.
Assemble I guess I'm also okay with it being scum
I think the scumteam is Mikey/Sub/(Assemble or Tchill) tbh- Michael22Omega
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In post 1933, Alisae wrote:Like I'm trying to be a productive person lynching scum you're just being straight up fucking useless or are scum
Pedit: No
Your whole approach to this game is you being manipulative you're just victim blaming now.
Aliase I think he is actually telling the truth hereIn post 1931, sub4hire wrote: Now Alisae is trying to put all the blame onto me for the mislynch even though she was the one who basically got me to get back onto it after I had basically given up. Think about that and think about who is actually being manipulative.
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We were masons yesterday in Amrock turbo
Scum lynch every day
But the thing that actually reminded him in you is that the way you're pushing sub rn feels like the way he was pushing mislynches, confident AF and then there is town flip- Michael22Omega
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Okay this just ruined my theory I was starting to make
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LolIn post 1969, Tchill13 wrote:I'm tired of ppl getting town read because they do "not so great things" or play poorly as town. That's not an adequate reason to tr someone. "Oh he's bad as town and I'm used to his bad plays so he's town here" what kind of defense is that?- Michael22Omega
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It's just when I read your posts, I didn't really feel like anything interesting to comment about them, I felt like you kind of just made town reads and then your scum reads are like 1 scum inside them two rather than actually giving your scum read. The thing that concerned me was that you town read two people who vote each other and didn't say about it.In post 1979, Boonskiies wrote:How am I passive? I’ve given my entire reads list. I’ve been commenting on nearly everything directed towards em, and on the Alisae/Tchill feud. Would you rather me jump in there and be overly aggressive with them?
I put my read out on Sub, who Alisae is pushing, and I stated I have paranoia and could see Alisae as scum, which is giving me pause. Tchill is a stated town read of mine.
Can you explain to me what of my play is me being passive, or why that it’s scummy for me to be passive. I’m a rather aggressive scum player.
The thing with sub is, he is being serious. Like he notices a scum read on him and right there comes and calls it bullshit even though he is busy, very straight forward. But Aliase is playing like RC so she is not changing her read ever pretty much.- Michael22Omega
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But I'm in a world where I'm townIn post 1995, Alisae wrote:Like Mikey I said this already :/
So who would be the scum if you/dunker/boon/sub are town- Michael22Omega
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I think I played every single one of the 50 games he moddedIn post 2000, Boonskiies wrote:To be fair, I don’t know if Mulch has ever modded a game here on mafiascum, so we don’t know his style.- Michael22Omega
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You see this is why I should avoid pushing people before I read enoughIn post 2008, Boonskiies wrote:
VOTE: Me AlisaeIn post 2006, Tchill13 wrote:Vote me alisae
VOTE: Michael- Michael22Omega
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So you think I'm bussing when I push Alisae but say it's scummy when Alisae isn't voting me?In post 2034, Boonskiies wrote:
Yeah, Alisae’s probably scum with Michael, though trying to pocket Why. I don’t like how she isn’t pushing Michael yet was putting him as scum with Sub, and Michael was posting.In post 2030, Apple Jack wrote:
1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.In post 2024, Boonskiies wrote:Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.
Also curious as to why Tchill is targeting Why over Alisae, but I’m generally town reading Tchill. He’s more submissive in confrontations when he’s scum.In post 2043, WhyMafia wrote:Im town reading Toranga/Michael slot
Where is the post that explains the scum read on that slot?
There is no real post, Alisae just wrote me as scum with sub and that's it.- Michael22Omega
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Hey Alisae/tacosIn post 2056, Michael22Omega wrote:Lol k
I mean I might be pocketed by him town reading me so I'm not really commenting on this, but I think Aliase is more scummy. I feel like she actually knows who the scum are and just pockets town by listing many people as town, I don't feel like there is pure thought process there.
Where is the shit
Let me read this for you and let's figure this out together
Me saying okay eh, is saying okay full of shit? idtsLol k
Yes I tend to like people who town read there is no shit hereI mean I might be pocketed by him town reading me
Because I tend to like people who town read, I don't feel confident commenting on this wagon. This is me being unsure, where is the shit?so I'm not really commenting on this
My opinion on Alisae being more scummy than whymafia, no shit herebut I think Aliase is more scummy
This is a thing that every scum has, they know the scum team. I'm stating a fact here, it can't be shitI feel like she actually knows who the scum are
This is the reason I think she knows the scum team(my previous argument) she lists people in town who I don't think worth town reading and couple of players agreed with it. It's not a shit and if you consider it is it doesn't worth a vote because couple people shared tihs opinionjust pockets town by listing many people as town
And this is the conclusion, to my above non-shot arguments. It can't be shit because the previous arguments aren't shitI don't feel like there is pure thought process there.
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Hey I triedIn post 2087, WhyMafia wrote:VOTE: Alisae
So much talk about pressuring this slot and I see no action- Michael22Omega
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In post 2103, Alisae wrote:Man I most of pocketed this whole town beautifully to get fucking wagoned because fucking ~Star Wars~
And I highly believethere probably even isn't a caseand will never be a case because you people don't want to case people because ~Star Wars~
So I wouldn't mind dieing and taking a loss here
You contradict yourself and there is already an innocent childIn post 2104, Alisae wrote:LikeMikey's push on me is mostly becauseI attempted to pocket people by calling a bunch of people town which never works.
The fact he thinks it does is mindblowning but hey you guys WANT to shoot yourself in the foot.
Go on ahead and do whatever
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Yeh, he would never do it. And there was never cycle 4 innocent child in any of his turbosIn post 2128, Dunkerdoodles wrote:mulch wouldn't put 2 ICs in a game i don't think- Michael22Omega
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Okay....
Alisae game threw yesterday by claiming innocent child and forcing our innocent child to reveal and having terrible reads, but can we just treat it as mislynch and move on? I'm not going to blame anyone who voted there(I actually think it's more likely scum stayed off to not be called out for voting town) but please don't go mad at that into extent this thread gets so pissed about that.
I went over most of the thread yesterday, my strongest town read at this point would be tacos, I read over it and I liked his tone every time he posted, I felt like the posts he made aren't the way scum play the game. All his posts don't seem like he is trying to fake anything, he is pressuring scum reads town reading people and posts seem like he's also having fun.
I think there is probably one scum between Tchil13/why and Derpy/why. I think either they both power wolfed to push him or he is just scum and they mindmelded. If it is why I think Boon might be scum with him, just according to vote patterns really.
I'll try to read more deeply, feels uncomfortable to give one name and scream to vote him right now because lynch or lose and I had some wrong town games lately.- Michael22Omega
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I think it's town thought process when he notices something scummy and he questions it very loud, like changing font to large when he was pushing Boon to make sure people will read it, I don't think scum are gonna draw that attention to themselves. And I agree with his reads because the two people he actually wrote in font 5 about were Boon and derpy, and they're both still alive.In post 2173, WhyMafia wrote:
How do you understand his reads? To me, it seems like he switched around a heck of a lot of times and changed stances over and over. However, I do agree his tone has been goodIn post 2171, Michael22Omega wrote:I went over most of the thread yesterday, my strongest town read at this point would be tacos, I read over it and I liked his tone every time he posted, I felt like the posts he made aren't the way scum play the game. All his posts don't seem like he is trying to fake anything, he is pressuring scum reads town reading people and posts seem like he's also having fun.
Agreed with Tacos, why do you think I'm scum?reaverb wrote:Hi.
I have only skimmed the thread and looked at all the vote counts.
Right now I think Tchill and Micheal22Omega are scummy and WhyMafia is Towny, with Tacos + Sub4hire also Town if Tchill flips scum (although Sub4hire anti-alignment is weak).- Michael22Omega
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Alive people vote history
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Acid/reaverb
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Boon
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Derpy/Porkens
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So If I had to judge based on that it would be something like
Tacos
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whymafia
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Not strongly convinced yet by this, but it's some data for me to make sense out of things- Michael22Omega
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In post 2223, Michael22Omega wrote:Boon
Why would you vote me if you say Tchill is scum? You don't know who is the scum between Tchill/whymafia. So your argument of voting me because "I'm scum with tchill" is soo weak- Michael22Omega
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VOTE: PokernsIn post 2227, Porkens wrote:Sure, I'm VT. You go next.- Michael22Omega
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What
I was hoping you would counter claim me or something- Michael22Omega
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We already have a jailkeeper, vanilla cop, innocent child, neighborizer, vig?In post 2243, Porkens wrote:Sure. I am a 2-shot town commuter. If I activate my ability at night, any night actions that target me will fail.
Derpy activated it night 1.
I think only way you make sense as town is if scum have 1-shotvig because this role is pretty OP with what we already have
Btw, I think you should know I'm mechanically always town because the innocent child had all action fail on him, meaning he can't be investigated by me so this mechanic was just there to make it harder for him to survive until the end.- Michael22Omega
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yehIn post 2249, WhyMafia wrote:Oh vanilla cop is the same as neopolitian nvm- Michael22Omega
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What changed from the beginning when you didn't scum read him?
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