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[Tchill13]

Lol she'd rather get herself lynched than Lynchwhymafia . Not happening . Whymafia is the lynch.

[Tchill13]

Ok then bus your scum partner and vote why.

[Tchill13]

Lol alisae is great competent town but she couldn't lynch scum after 75ish pages on day one.

[Tchill13]

No I'm lynching sub and you're just gonna have to deal with it

Yeah it's called not voting town and actually being competent.

[Tchill13]

Lynch whymafia and after that Idc what you do with me.

[Tchill13]

It's not alisae/sub. It's not alisae/tchill. Surprise surprise it's alisae/whymafia

[Tchill13]

She's never gonna get nk'd because she's scum come on now boon.

[Tchill13]

You'll have to give me a bit to adequately case the guy but I will since you asked a question instead of responding with derogatory comments.

[Tchill13]

I'm tired of ppl getting town read because they do "not so great things" or play poorly as town. That's not an adequate reason to tr someone. "Oh he's bad as town and I'm used to his bad plays so he's town here" what kind of defense is that?

[Tchill13]

No I'm not letting town Lynch someone when there's obv scum. It's bad play for me and the rest of town. I'll try to case the guy FOR BOON not for ALISAE. I'm sure she'll tear it apart as soon as I post it.

[Tchill13]

Same for you voting sub alisae

[Tchill13]

Let's play "does it matter who's scum anyway?" Where the accusations are made up and the eff you's don't matter.

[Tchill13]

I was mostly referring to our alisae's eff you's. I feel pretty strongly whymafia us scum here. I'm very suspicious as to why literally every other wagon was getting pushed and at the end the klazam wagon literally just slid through. Shame on klazam for not fighting harder.

[Tchill13]

We could Lynch me if you really think I'm scum.

[Tchill13]

Vote me alisae

[Tchill13]

Lol boon.

[Tchill13]

I don't agree with that reads list either.

[Tchill13]

Yeah I have the same issue derpy

[Tchill13]

hey we need a few more votes there

[Tchill13]

still no whymaf lynch? what is wrong with you ppl?

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Klazam
i didnt say i'd hammer anyone at L-1 so
if this flips VT not my fault
if this flips PR not my fault
if this flips scum this confirms me as not scum

There is really no reason town should hammer in this manner. All this post is is a preservation of himself.

[Tchill13]

so doing some re-reading I have revised my scum list.

I think the 3 scum are Why/dunker/assemble.

it's kind of hard to explain and since nobody really listens to me anyway i am not going to but we need to lynch one of these 3 today.

i doubt it's as easy as this but i do believe there's a good chance 2 is scum.

[Tchill13]

Dunker's posting seems towny to me based off of tone.

i feel like alisae is scummier than assemble. her reads are garbage.

[Tchill13]

every time ive played with assemble hes been unactive. in fact idk why he even plays because thats how inactive the guy is. that being said i dont see that being a good scumj tactic and meanwhile alisae's play can be summed up by trying to LOOK towny and pushing ppl away from obv scum.

[Tchill13]

we gotta stop rewarding stupid play on this site just because we are used to bad town. too easy for scum to take advantage of that.

[Tchill13]

Ugh another freaking reason not to vote whymafia and literally everyone is hopping on it. WE NEED TO LYNCH WHYMAFIA.

[Tchill13]

Yeah I'm also weary of the fact dunker is voting there. I don't like that at all.

[Tchill13]

So far we've gotten a self vote because "there's no point" and now we have a player saying "I want to die" and if they both flip town I just might lose mymind .

[Tchill13]

i have my reasons

Bussing?

[Tchill13]

VOTE: whymafia

let me be clear if town lose and whymaf is indeed scum this is on everyone's fault except mine lolol. I've been trying to get this lynched the whole game and he still is alive this is ridiculous. Mulch you having fun watching me lose my mind?

[Tchill13]

Okay....
Alisae game threw yesterday by claiming innocent child and forcing our innocent child to reveal and having terrible reads, but can we just treat it as mislynch and move on? I'm not going to blame anyone who voted there(I actually think it's more likely scum stayed off to not be called out for voting town) but please don't go mad at that into extent this thread gets so pissed about that.

I went over most of the thread yesterday, my strongest town read at this point would be tacos, I read over it and I liked his tone every time he posted, I felt like the posts he made aren't the way scum play the game. All his posts don't seem like he is trying to fake anything, he is pressuring scum reads town reading people and posts seem like he's also having fun.

I think there is probably one scum between Tchil13/why and Derpy/why. I think either they both power wolfed to push him or he is just scum and they mindmelded. If it is why I think Boon might be scum with him, just according to vote patterns really.
I'll try to read more deeply, feels uncomfortable to give one name and scream to vote him right now because lynch or lose and I had some wrong town games lately.

you should be voting why by association.

[Tchill13]

reaverb is scum too.

[Tchill13]

i will write tchill case this weekend ..

yeah it'll take a while to come up with a good one.

[Tchill13]

the only case i need for whymaf is the last half of day 1. any lynch had a decent amount of momentum as long as it wasn't whymaf.

[Tchill13]

if you'll help me lynch why today i will gladly lynch michael after why's scum flip.

[Tchill13]

If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael

this lines up a mislynch

[Tchill13]

instead of handling the whymaf, tchill situation you'd rather poke Michael instead of voting me. that is odd.

[Tchill13]

dunk/alisae/klazam were all town. if whymaf is town here i'll have to seriously start looking at player lists for games.

[Tchill13]

If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael

starting to seriously think boon is scum after that post

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Tchill
Dunker's explanation for his hammer gave me hard scum pings, but I WANT TCHILL DEAD GODAMMIT

VOTE: TCHILL
IM FUCKING VOTE PARKING THIS

whymaf's first posts on days 2 and 3

[Tchill13]

why not put the issue of me and whymaf to rest? seems like you think of michael flips scum i'm scum too.

[Tchill13]

my bad lol

[Tchill13]

If Tchill is actually scum, Michael is scum also.

VOTE: Michael

this lines up a mislynch

this is just wrong either way srry about that too lol

[Tchill13]

yeah. ok... i'm still thinking whymaf is the lynch. we're going on 3 days of constatnt pressure where he wasn't ;ynched and has openly OMGUS'd and he hasn't been nk'd either.

[Tchill13]

i mean he should have been lynched before this because its hard for me to play now and not hesitate to lynch someone else and it's hard to believe to other players that we are both town if that is indeed the case.

[Tchill13]

scum has to be on the klazam and alisae wagons. TERRIBLE lynches. I have to stop lynching ppl just to lynch them and get to the next day phase.

[Tchill13]

what's ironic is i think im the one that mentioned alisae as scum.

[Tchill13]

mass claim isn't a great idea imo.

[Tchill13]

I demand TChill claim next

I’m not claiming

[Tchill13]

Vote Count 1.30

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Klazam (7):Alisae, Sub4hire, Tchill13, Sergtacos, UC Voyager, WhyMafia, Dunkerdoodles

[LYNCH]

Derpy Hooves(2):Boonskiies,Assemblertows

[L-5]

Sergtacos (2): Toranaga, Acidphoenix

[L-5]

Tchill13(1):Klazam

[L-6]

Not voting (1): Derpy Hooves

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Vote Count 2.04

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Alisae (6):Michael22omega, WhyMafia, Sergtacos, Dunkerdoodles, Derpy Hooves, Alisae

[Lynch]

WhyMafia (1): Tchill13

[L-5]

Michael22omega (1):Boonskiies

[L-5]

Not voting (3): Sub4hire, Aseemblerotws, acidphoenix

Countdown: (expired on 2017-10-25 12:08:48)

Sure, I'm VT. You go next.

VOTE: Pokerns

VOTE: Porken

He’s voting Tchill and calling Why scum. The Neapolitan counter result. Lack of using action Night 2. I think this makes the most sense.

I have seen enough.

VOTE: Porkens

VOTE: porkens

[Tchill13]

whymaf has been a part of every lynch and almost lynched porkens yet has tunneled me most of the game... Scum

[Tchill13]

not voting porkens due to hard TR of derpy.

[Tchill13]

whymaf has been a part of every lynch and almost lynched porkens yet has tunneled me most of the game... Scum

sergtacos was also a part of every lynch and tried to lynch porkens.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: whymafia

[Tchill13]

It didn't really help town that their watcher forget he was a watcher. no offense whymafia

Or he played super scummy or a townie decided to gamethrow.

Fuck off. I admit my fault, but the fact that you decided to fucking tunnel the whole game didn't help matters. Nobody besides you and TChill even though I was scummy. I just ... happened to forget. It was a horrible mistake and I acknowledge that

to be fair you were scummy for multiple reasons but i pretty much knew i was in trouble in days 2 and 3 since you stayed around and i was gonna be hesitant to move from it. I was certain you were scum after my vote breakdown post of you and tacos. Srry.

[Tchill13]

- Find a play style that works for you and stick with it.

- Reread games you've played in months after the fact. There is so much you can learn about mistakes you made, stuff you missed, how people reacted now that you know the entire setup.

I think if you do those two things, you will find your game improving by leaps and bounds

best advice so far. i'm gonna follow it.

[Tchill13]

he didn't realize he was a watcher

just like i didn't realize i was a vig

??? no comment lmao.

[Tchill13]

whymafia the players i enjoy and learn the most from are Mulch, boon and robb (not tunneling robb). Alisae seems to know what she's talking about by my familiarity there doesn't exist. I suggest paying attention to those 3 players though. Very different play styles to view too.

[Tchill13]

Somehow I need to figure out how to ignore people lying. I shouldn’t have to but it’s happening almost every game. I really wish people would just do better.

in a perfect world LAL makes sense and should work. This isn't a perfect world though and you HAVE to keep that in mind as much as it kills you. that's how i do it at least.

[Tchill13]

lmao after reading post game idgaf about this game. Lot of missed opportunities. oh well gg.

[Tchill13]

Idk about mu but here townies are downgrading their town meta so they can play better as scum.

i've seen this post from diffferent ppl.

my first thought is if you don't try your hardset to win every game as either alignment you shouldn't be playing. I would think both games would develop in a similar manner. If i am getting better at scum hunting I should in turn learn what not to do as scum.

because you throw this in with unexperienced players (such as myself) that are really trying and see scummy play from other townies doing this "holding back" it will lead to a lot of losses on lack of effort.

i think a player named vedith made the most sense on this topic. The only ppl trying to look towny are scum. As town You don't win by looking towny you win by lynching scum, scum hunting. So when a player comes off as just looking towny because he's "holding back" i'm gonna be willing to lynch him almost every time.

As scum you just have to "scum hunt" but it has to make sense, from my understanding at least. Most players that i've seen that I consider "bad" as scum is ppl that just try to look towny, or ppl that don't make near as much sense as scum "scum hunting" compared to when they're town. So they dumb down their reasoning as town and their scum game benefits.

So when ppl are "holding back" to benefit their scum game I'd almost consider it game thrwoing. What can you do though?

i just hate that ppl do this. Someone commented in one of my early games that my town game would benefit my scum game through play style alone. I didn't intend that and i try just as hard as both i've just found a play style i believe is sufficient as both alignments which was totally by just playing the game and unintentional. Of course i've only played for a few months and ik i have a lot to learn

this is just an issue that's been bothering me which resulted in the longish post.

[Tchill13]

Hi teech

sup mulch?