Micro 745: Beyond Death [Endgame]

[Chip Butty]

Nopes again. You don't get to ask questions while blowing off questions from others. You haven't contributed anything except that naked vote on BTD. How am i supposed to townread you based on that?

[Chip Butty]

I'll answer your questions after you have become more forthcoming.

[Papa Zito]

Nopes again. You don't get to ask questions while blowing off questions from others. You haven't contributed anything except that naked vote on BTD. How am i supposed to townread you based on that?

So here's your problem my friend. You've casually insinuated a few times now that my actions are "scummy" without actually giving any backing to the claim. And I've given you ample opportunity to do so. Just to be clear, I'm not asking so you can convince

me

, I know what my alignment is! But if you actually well and truly believe that I'm doing vague and mysterious scummy things then your reaction should include things like:

1. Voting me
2. Asking others to vote me; pushing a wagon
3. Pressuring me into answering questions
4. Examining my iso and voting history in detail
5. Putting forth a case

My issue is that you've done none of these things. Instead what you've done is:

1. Throw shade at my slot
2. Complain about my behavior
3. Refuse to explain basically anything

I came in with a pretty strong scumread on your slot, so when you presented the opportunity to engage I took it and you've failed spectacularly. Nothing you've done in reaction to me has been townie. Instead you've tried to take advantage of my nonstandard behavior by throwing shade to erode the townpoints my predecessor gained without actually committing to it with a vote or writing down a stance I could debunk. Doing that would pin you down into a 1-on-1 that you're not sure you want because you don't know how good a player I am or how good my reads happen to be.

@Micc:

Are you done with BTD or do you still have things to hash out with that slot?

[Cabd]

Sold.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chip

[northsidegal]

not really agreeing here. chip actually

has

done some of the things you're describing! as for pressuring you to answer questions, what do you call 523 and 525? you say that he's not examining your iso in detail, but that's pretty much what he does in 521. you could make the argument that he didn't analyze it in detail, but i would say that there wasn't really a whole lot to analyze. it doesn't make a lot of sense for chip to just suddenly start voting you and pushing your wagon just because he believes you've been scummier than ss was - the townread on ss still exists.

[Micc]

@Micc: Are you done with BTD or do you still have things to hash out with that slot?

I'm not really done or satisfied with what came out of pushing BTD, but if this is you asking whether I still want the Chip butty wagon I've been calling for all game then consider me on board.

VOTE: Chip butty

[Hopkirk]

'So here's your problem my friend. You've casually insinuated a few times now that my actions are "scummy" without actually giving any backing to the claim.'

This is exactly how Chip was acting with his read on me earlier too. Like it even less now it's a pattern.
VOTE: Chip

Still want BTD's response to my response on his response.

[Papa Zito]

Rockin.

VOTE: Chip

not really agreeing here. chip actually

has

done some of the things you're describing! as for pressuring you to answer questions, what do you call 523 and 525? you say that he's not examining your iso in detail, but that's pretty much what he does in 521. you could make the argument that he didn't analyze it in detail, but i would say that there wasn't really a whole lot to analyze. it doesn't make a lot of sense for chip to just suddenly start voting you and pushing your wagon just because he believes you've been scummier than ss was - the townread on ss still exists.

I feel absolutely no pressure from Chip whatsoever. Complaining that he doesn't like what I'm doing (523/525)/ taking his ball and going home (526) forces nothing from me at all. You argued your own point on 521, well done.

The SS hedge is fun but either I'm scummy to him or I'm not. He's thrown enough shade to make it clear he thinks the latter so I think I'm perfectly justified asking why his actions aren't aligning with his words.

[Micc]

Sweet L-1 flashwagon yall. Now we're going places.

Chooo chooo

[Hopkirk]

I like that this wagon is exclusively made of all my town reads.

[Chip Butty]

LOL you guys must be really bored to buy this. Like i said, I'll vote when UCV has weighed in. We've still to hear anything from that slot. The simple truth is that I poked at PZ, presented the pitiful ISO from that slot since he took over, and asked him to explain his naked vote on BTD. Yes, i refused to vote immediately, because i am tired how Micc has been trying to dictate the pace of the game. We still have ample time, and I'm thinking this concerted reaction to someone questioning the BTD wagon and wanting to shed light on the UCV slot is not town driven, although at least a couple town are going along with it. I'm going back to compare with the early wagon on me...

The only vote on me that surprises me is Cabd.

[Chip Butty]

Hmm okay the early wagon was Micc, CT, NSG...Well, no secret that Micc has been after me most of the game, but otherwise no correlation.

[Chip Butty]

Oh, and I'd REALLY be interested in hearing why Micc is willing to sheep onto such a weak-ass vote on BTD.

Okay, I think we're rolling now, at long last.

Still want an answer to this please, Micc...

[Chip Butty]

Nopes again. You don't get to ask questions while blowing off questions from others. You haven't contributed anything except that naked vote on BTD. How am i supposed to townread you based on that?

So here's your problem my friend. You've casually insinuated a few times now that my actions are "scummy" without actually giving any backing to the claim. And I've given you ample opportunity to do so. Just to be clear, I'm not asking so you can convince

me

, I know what my alignment is! But if you actually well and truly believe that I'm doing vague and mysterious scummy things then your reaction should include things like:

1. Voting me
2. Asking others to vote me; pushing a wagon
3. Pressuring me into answering questions
4. Examining my iso and voting history in detail
5. Putting forth a case

My issue is that you've done none of these things. Instead what you've done is:

1. Throw shade at my slot
2. Complain about my behavior
3. Refuse to explain basically anything

I came in with a pretty strong scumread on your slot, so when you presented the opportunity to engage I took it and you've failed spectacularly. Nothing you've done in reaction to me has been townie. Instead you've tried to take advantage of my nonstandard behavior by throwing shade to erode the townpoints my predecessor gained without actually committing to it with a vote or writing down a stance I could debunk. Doing that would pin you down into a 1-on-1 that you're not sure you want because you don't know how good a player I am or how good my reads happen to be.

@Micc:

Are you done with BTD or do you still have things to hash out with that slot?

The thread is in danger of collapsing under the weight of the irony of this post alone. This is from a guy whose own "push" on BTD comprised a single naked vote.

[Chip Butty]

Rockin.

VOTE: Chip

not really agreeing here. chip actually

has

done some of the things you're describing! as for pressuring you to answer questions, what do you call 523 and 525? you say that he's not examining your iso in detail, but that's pretty much what he does in 521. you could make the argument that he didn't analyze it in detail, but i would say that there wasn't really a whole lot to analyze. it doesn't make a lot of sense for chip to just suddenly start voting you and pushing your wagon just because he believes you've been scummier than ss was - the townread on ss still exists.

I feel absolutely no pressure from Chip whatsoever. Complaining that he doesn't like what I'm doing (523/525)/ taking his ball and going home (526) forces nothing from me at all. You argued your own point on 521, well done.

The SS hedge is fun but either I'm scummy to him or I'm not. He's thrown enough shade to make it clear he thinks the latter so I think I'm perfectly justified asking why his actions aren't aligning with his words.

Actually, where I'm at with your slot is confused, because the performances by SS and you are like night and day. I poked at you because i couldn't decide whether SS did a great job in a scum slit, or you're doing a great job of scumming up a town slot that prevuously looked good. I still don't know, which is why i am still at the stage of asking questions. Questions that you refuse ro answer. That's why i refused to answer yours. I'm sticking to that. I don't feel any pressure here at all. And i didn’t take my ball and go home, i had RL stuff to do, and got back here as soon as i could.

[Chip Butty]

Well, can you at least say why you don't want to give your reasons for your BTD vote?

I'm willing to hear you out but you're coming across to me as unnecessarily secretive and evasive. Unnecessarily if you're town, that is...

I'll answer your questions after you have become more forthcoming.

Answer please. This is where i had to break off earlier...

[Chip Butty]

I'm still not vorung until UCV presents, if that's not already clear...

[Papa Zito]

Good lord almighty. I have answered all that at this point.

For someone who isn't feeling any pressure you sure are panic posting.

I'll answer your questions after you have become more forthcoming.

This is where you took your ball and went home.

[Chip Butty]

^vorung is...er...Bavarian for 'voting'...

[Chip Butty]

Good lord almighty. I have answered all that at this point.

For someone who isn't feeling any pressure you sure are panic posting.

I'll answer your questions after you have become more forthcoming.

This is where you took your ball and went home.

Can you point me to where you answered that?

I can't see what why you are saying that. I said i would answer your questions, but you had to answer some first. I mean, where have you answered a single question by anyone? You've just blown everybody off...

[Chip Butty]

What were your reasons for voting BTD? Why don't you eant to discuss them?

[Chip Butty]

Show me where you have answered those questions. I just looked at your updated ISO and i can't see your answers...

[Chip Butty]

Oh and bye I'm not "panic posting" as you are making out. I'm just very keen to ontinue our chat. I have plenty of time now, so let's thrash this out.

[Chip Butty]

At last this game is becoming interesting...

[UC Voyager]

I will be able to make a good post soon. (:
Ima look at the chip case.