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[Elena Fisher]

Alright I read fitz (because that's much easier) and I'm gonna stick with the tr I had on mulch I don't think he has some questionable interactions and fitz had his top townread go like this: Mulch > Me (after masons) > Mulch but early on the unba day he says he doesn't want to lynch panther for what I see is out of the blue?

VOTE: fitz

[Elena Fisher]

Fitz it's mostly PoE and your interactions with ghostlin... I just want you to town case yourself

Well...I don't really recall many interactions with Ghost as I townread Vedith and transferred that read to Ghost despite the support his wagon seemed to be garnering. I don't even know what people's main points on him were.

And I have no control over your reads on others (other than the points I made earlier today on Elena and Panther) so if POE points you away from them and towards me....or you get a gut feel....that's hard to debate.

I will say I am town in this game and a lynch on me loses the game for town.

I'll look myself over tomorrow and see if I can find anything actions etc that would shine a town light on me.

I dislike that you're looking for posts to townread yourself over instead of looking for posts to scumread others over you know 2 of the other 3 in the pool are scum getting yourself "towny" won't really do much in the end game goal I would rather you look through my and panther (since it seems you looked at Mulch?) and see if you find anything scummy.

[Elena Fisher]

I have some comments for post-game regardless of certain peoples alignments. I think this is the correct lynch today I would also vote Panther although I want Panther and fitz to come around and gives some more content if they could. I dislike that I got sheeped as the "towny" in the group seemingly out of nowhere and would like that explained.
I also want to see what made fitz tr me over mulch and then that change.

[Srceenplay]

I wish we could have had day chat.
Did scum have day chat?

[Elena Fisher]

What's your main concern atm?

[Srceenplay]

Let me start by saying I’m drinking a couple of beers and playing SC2 mafia mod.

I’m just not following anything you said. Maybe tomorrow I can, idk.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

havingfitz (2) - PantherPunt, Elena Fisher

Not Voting (4) - Srceenplay, havingfitz, Mulch, Lucky2u

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline for Night Three is November 1st, 9PM PST (expired on 2017-11-01 21:00:00)

[PantherPunt]

I’m waiting for EF
Still have time.

Suck it. I played a great fucking game that's my town meta to a T. I lynch scum. Scum almost lynched me. Right now I'm townread by the entire game (

which means one scum is fake townreading me

). Fitz just made a fucking town case on me.



Go ahead and throw the game

Can you explain how this statement is anything but an accidental scum claim????

[Mulch]

Fitz and Elena are townreading me. At least one of them has to be scum. Thus, one scum is fake townreading me

[havingfitz]

@Mulch.

OK...so in the spirit of "why the hell not"...I'll see if there is a town case that can be made on my slot.

My predecessor (Aeronaut) didn't enter the game until page 16 and was in the game a total of 5 RL days and made all of 9 posts. His only inferred/stated reads were that he townread Vedith (who at this point was a claimed vig) and suspected pisskop (who at this point was the only person voting the aforementioned tr/CL'd vig). So a case could be made for chainsawing? Aero didn't do anything that screamed town.

Me.

I join the game near the end of D1 on page 33. The day before my typical weekend v/la. I don't really have an opinion on Dunker at this point and when I get back from v/LA he hass been lynched. My initial suspicions are towards chill (aka town) and tictac (aka Elena).

Almost immediately on to another long v/LA due to visiting sick family out of state. No checking in and post v/LA...50 pages in the hole.

1151 - Whining about being behind and not contributing (truth). Say I'm not interested in Ghost (pending ISO), Morality and Panther. Most likely willing to support Chill or BBT (baaaad) and perhaps Mulch or tictac.

1174 - I give Mulch some flak for shading Srceen. So at least I wasn't suspecting one of the masons. That has to be a plus!

OK...I'm finally catching up and getting some reads (based on actually getting caught up) posted.

1175 - Town reading Vedith so by association, despite some things I do not like about Ghost...I tr Ghost. (baaaad)
1186 - Same thing with cd....townread him and by association, extend tr to Mulch despite some things I do not like. This is before Ghost flips scum so Mulch not even banking any town cred for that yet.
1187 - Change earlier gut scumread on Chill to a town read (gooood)
1188 - Change earlier gut scumread on BBT to a town read (good good good good good).

I'm townreading the Vedith slot D2 so I avoid that wagon (baaaad) and vote someone I find suspect...Una (baaad).

I make a few posts giving Chill crap for his views/vote on Ghost. So not good. But he was a town read for me so...

Ghost is lynched and is scum. Yay town! Bad fitz!...for shit tr on him.

Annnd Day 3 begins with a quick wagon on me with two of my town reads voting me.. Probably deservedly so at this point.

On to another long weekend.v/LA (for a wedding). But before that I vote Una (baad).

Back from v/LA...Una not going anywhere so I move to Elena (I suspect gooood).

Una picks up steam...Una doing things I do not understand. Back to Una (baaad).

1474 gives my current thoughts on the game after voting Una.

Towards end of D3 I look to be on the defensive quite a bit...questioning Mulch and Panther scum reads on me.

Off to weekend v/LA....when v?LA ends...Una has been lynched and flipped town. pffft.

Day 4

I'm apparently in a snarky mood to start today as I snap (deservedly so imo) at Panther.

People are claiming...we have masons....I believe their claims based on ISO of them. My pool of suspects drops from 5 to 3.

I'm getting annoyed with Mulch and essentially OMGUS vote him before my refresher VCA points out Mulch is more than likely town.

I'm left with Panther and Elena...who are both voting me...and I'm town. So they are voting for the scum win.

In summary...

seems like a lot of feels and guts for people scum reading me. Which looking at VCA and who I have townread and scumnread is not un reasonable.

I will say that it is not my scum play to defend a partner to excess...if they are pretty much locked in to being the day's lynch I will join the wagon. Otherwise I tend to avoid bussing at all costs, but I won't fall on my sword to avoid it.

I think my town read on Vedith was stemming mostly from the vig claim and even when Ghost backtracked on it...I maintained my Vedith WTF is he doing??? towncred. As for Una...I just thought what I perceived as his unwillingness to commit to a wagon after D1 while throwing in some OMGUS for voting me was scummy. First game with him....I misread him.

As for the town read on Mulch...it comes primarily from Vedith's commitment to the cd wagon and the Mulch presence on Ghost's lynch. Otherwise I really don't like how Mulch has voted. Hammers on Dunk and Una (despite not liking one or both of their wagons iirc?) and his persistence on me. But I'm a sucker for commitment and if Vedith and Mulch did bus the hell out of each other....smh to them.

That's a pretty shit town case on myself Mulch....activity level and poor reads have not been my friend. It's probably more of a towncase if you POE against the suspicions I bring up towards Panther and Elena.

[havingfitz]

Fitz and Elena are townreading me. At least one of them has to be scum. Thus, one scum is fake townreading me

You said everyone is town reading you. FtownYPOV that should mean both scum are fake townreading you...not one.

I think I prefer Elena. Shit like the above makes me want to sort them out tomorrow.

Where are the mason's heads at?

[Mulch]

Fitz unfortunately I do not know If you are town yet. Your town case sucked . I’m going to make a full decision on my vote later today

[Srceenplay]

Where are the mason's heads at?

I’m reading and still thinking.

[havingfitz]

Fitz unfortunately I do not know If you are town yet. Your town case sucked . I’m going to make a full decision on my vote later today

I basically said it sucked. I probably come across more town when I'm scum trying to look town. Here I've tried and been wrong when I've had time to try.

[PantherPunt]

I mean I'm pretty stuck on mulch+fitz but am more sure on fitz

despite him seemingly "putting in work" aka typing a bunch of words

game has been going for months and the guy has written more words in his last couple posts than he did over the last two months combined - it's almost like he has perked up as he is close to winning

[havingfitz]

^ ah...the classic perk tell /s. You can be sum just for suggesting it.

My activity is consitent...across games regardless of alignment. This recently becoming my only game has helped.

[PantherPunt]

^ ah...the classic perk tell /s. You can be sum just for suggesting it.

My activity is consitent...across games regardless of alignment. This recently becoming my only game has helped.

I think your scumminess is coming through elsewhere too. Like being in a defend-from-scum-accusations-preemptively mindset. For example, in your one wall, you wrote some parenthetical thing like "now you might say...Aeronut avoided that mislynch wagon."

I think that's a scum mindset whereas a town mindset wouldn't really even go there.

I can't knock you for any of it, it's just transparent to me personally.

[PantherPunt]

Everybody still alive was on the Dunkerdoodle mislynch other than me. So all (assuming 3) 3 scum were the D1 mislynch and therefore it is NAI.

I realize this will be twisted into a "Aeronaut stayed away from the mislynch" negative shade but I'm town so it is what it is.

I could have just went and found it and quoted it....
so now I have.

[havingfitz]

For example, in your one wall, you wrote some parenthetical thing like "now you might say...Aeronut avoided that mislynch wagon."

I think that's a scum mindset whereas a town mindset wouldn't really even go there.

Well...I'm town. And when I assess a votecount I absolutely look at it that way. Either to hopefully find scum or to manipulate the opinion of town.

Whiiiiich....if I was scum I guarantee I would have a less crappy voting history.

[Srceenplay]

Lucky, anything from you?

I think they all have scumy and towny traits.
Maybe 180 and vote EF?

[Lucky2u]

Lucky, anything from you?

I think they all have scumy and towny traits.
Maybe 180 and vote EF?

actually. My thoughts lately are to lynch mulch and if he is scum, then Elena

[Mulch]

I'm pretty sure mulch is town here so I'm sleeping him. I feel like una is town too.

He's never misread me

[Mulch]

Morality townread me too, and he reads me as scum when I'm scum

[Mulch]

Hey Screen, don't lose the game. PLZ AND TY

[Mulch]

Lucky is an absolute fucking idiot who dosen't realize that when the entire game townreads me except panther, and EVERY SINGLE DEAD PERSON has townread me, I'm town. Or when I was the only one who voted Ghostlin, I'm town. Or when fucking elena and fitz, two people who have played with me before, read me town, I'm town.

BUT OH NO LETS LYNCH THE TOWNIEST PERSON IN THE GAME