Open 695: Making Friends and Enemies [Mafia Win!]


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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:57 pm

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VOTE: CommKnight

@fial, read on awoo?
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:02 pm

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lucca you seem to scumread awoo and cheeky do you think both could be scum or only 1?
Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:03 pm

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Better yet what do your reads look like?
Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:06 pm

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I think both could very well be scum. I don't see why not?

do you think they couldn't be both scum?

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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:13 pm

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I think 1 is most likely scum but given interactions I don't think BOTH are scum. I don't fully agree with your Comm read given I think he needs to post more
My top trs in no order are lucca north and lalendra I don't get your quick townread he seems really null for me even on the "could be scum" side.
Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:15 pm

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why would something be less or more scummy at the start of the game?


--- I've come to expect naked votes early in the game as a way to end RVS and gain reactions. A naked vote at this point in the game could mean any number of things, some of which may be scummy. As an example.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:15 pm

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"townreading lalendra" --- why?
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 273, Awoo wrote:Quick, you suspect aubrey on account of having low content, could you explain that? I can point to numerous other cases of lower content in the game. Why him/Any other reasons you suspect him specifically?
It was mostly these posts that were right in the middle of where a lot of heavy stuff was being discussed. Looking back on it now, it doesn't look as bad.
In post 189, Aubrey wrote:
In post 159, Maki Harukawa wrote:Was this topic important what so ever or more so banter for you Chisa?
Understanding how the world perceives oneself is typical, and all that really read as.
In post 159, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm scared that I agree with most of this (my) post.
In post 166, Maki Harukawa wrote:need to see more from Aubrey
......Okay.
In post 176, Maki Harukawa wrote:I don't know who I want to vote in the 2 because I doubt it's scum vs scum (Cheeky and Awoo)
I initially had some town vibes from this, but then paranoia set in. Whatever happened to this, "
I feel good about my vote on Awoo
" thing. I can't help but wonder if this is just a tactic to see how the positions of these two players develop down the line.
In post 185, Epic Fial wrote:MY NAME IS ERIC BUT POEPLE CALL ME EPIC BECAUSE OF MY LAST NAME.
Firts. Poeple. Fial. All caps.
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I'm onto you.
In post 204, Aubrey wrote:
In post 194, Epic Fial wrote:Maybe scum are lurking weebs in this game. Another possibility is that they are posting a lot but are not weebs. So I'm going to be considering both weebs and non-weebs, and people who are lurking and people doing the opposite of that, whatever it is called. On the other hand, they might be in the middle somewhere. Nearly certain we can hit scum in one of those groups.
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In post 206, Aubrey wrote:Sass overload.
I don't like Epic Fial having tunnel vision. His points are not terrible, but you should really be interacting with more than like 2 people.

I will try and fully catch up and give my thoughts. This is a pretty heavy game and I am not used to that kind of play. I will try and provide some thoughts on things when I get caught up.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 pm

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this last post feels like someone who is trying to participate, rather than trying to scumhunt.
*Trying to get into the game and make some actual reads
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 pm

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In post 226, northsidegal wrote:
In post 225, lucca261 wrote:cheeky really did that, and she say it herself on 87, when pressured by quick. openly saying she wants a response from me = openly saying her vote is a reaction test. my point is: if cheeky wanted to have a response from me, putting a vote on my slot and then saying she wants a response is counter productive, it redirects the discussion away from why I voted her. she could've, you know, just asked.
i think i'd like to hear cheeky's point of view with regard to this. anyone else can chime in, as well, if you've got something to add!
I totally agree with Lucca on this. Like its not that difficult to just ask a question to someone. Instead they think they are going to get more out of a naked OMGUS vote. I just cannot understand that.
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there was nothing spetacular, it was my first non-rvs vote, on page 5. I don't need a full case on somebody. my reasons for voting her were expressed on post 206. at the time, it was the scummiest thing on the game. so I voted her. I never said I know for a fact that cheeky is scum. in fact, I quote: "because I think you are scum". where did I say I know she is scum or that I don't need evidence? I was engaging with her at that moment. I was furthering my read at that moment.

so, let's talk: what's my motivation as scum to accuse cheeky without any reasons here?
you may not have said that you know she's scum, but from your actions it certainly appears that way. i'm thinking more and more that it's a meta thing, but it seemed to me to be unusual behavior towards someone you scumread. when i see someone pushing someone else as scummy and it appears fake or strange, i'm more inclined to think that they're pushing a mislynch. from what i'm gathering from this conversation you further your reads in ways that i can't easily pick up on, so i'm going to keep that in mind going forward as well as when reviewing previous posts.

in response to your last line, that's what i've been turning over in my head. you'll note that i've never explicitly said i scumread you, even if i find it hard to find town motivation in some of your actions. mainly i disagree with the wagon you've started.
It kinda like you are looking for reasons to Scum read Lucca. You point about Lucca inferring that he knows for a fact that that Cheeky is Scum is kinda bogus. Like the only way that happens is if those two are teamed. I guess that is something to consider, but ATM I am Town reading lucca and we haven't had a flip so I am not going to focus on that and I think its incorrect to do that.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:42 pm

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In post 238, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 234, Aubrey wrote: Epic comes off as a joke account. If he doesn't start taking the game semi seriously, he'll probably need to be exterminated at some point. Scum will keep problematic slots around, and problematic slots are not good for the town to have around for the later game. Take that for what you will. I'm not above lynching slots that I think will be unreadable.
In post 237, Quick wrote:I really want to see more from Epic Fial because I forgot they were in the game until I saw the joke for the second time.
Could be that scum lives in a gingerbread house, the forest is dark, and everywhere looks like everywhere else. Really, there is only one way to prepare for that and survive. Understand that, and you are halfway home. Maybe you think I am a joke. But I am not.
Yeah, this is like really bizarre to me. I have no idea what you are trying to say. I think you were being serious here which makes this really fucking confusing.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:43 pm

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In post 252, Jamiet99uk wrote:
In post 240, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 102, Jamiet99uk wrote:I'm thinking about our Masons. Important we keep them alive if we can. They effectively have a 1-shot copscan.
What steps shall we take to keep the masons alive?

Let's try not to lynch them.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:50 pm

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Quick, you're doing a lot of defending/townreading, do you have any other scumreads besides cheeky?
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:51 pm

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In post 279, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think 1 is most likely scum but given interactions I don't think BOTH are scum.
This is interesting because I sometimes am OK saying what is NOT SvS. I am wondering if you look at the same kind of things as I do.

Basically, can you talk more about why you think Awoo and Cheeky can't be teamed?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 287, Awoo wrote:Quick, you're doing a lot of defending/townreading, do you have any other scumreads besides cheeky?
IDK where you are getting this from. In my last few posts I have pointed out things I didn't like from North, Epic, and Jamie as well. So no, I don't think all I am doing is defending/Townreading people.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 148, Awoo wrote:While I'm at it, how does saying
"You called me a wall because of my vote"
suit "my agenda" more then
"You called me a wall because of my townread"
?
This makes no sense, what are you trying to ask here? I will be catching up properly in next 12 hours.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:58 pm

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I don't know, read your post LOL
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:58 pm

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In post 283, Awoo wrote:
this last post feels like someone who is trying to participate, rather than trying to scumhunt.
*Trying to get into the game and make some actual reads
Can you please mention who you are quoting?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:59 pm

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his name is lucca
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 274, lucca261 wrote:thinking awoo is scum. this last post feels like someone who is trying to participate, rather than trying to scumhunt.
Eh. I actually don't mind the vote to much though. Lalendra has kinda been taking a backseat a hair I feel, so I get the coasting vibe.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 293, Awoo wrote:his name is lucca
Can you do this without me having to ask? Its really hard to follow. I am in like 5-6 games right now so I can't just remember what everyone says when someone quotes something without a name.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:08 pm

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~ Next time ~

~ ~ I will ~ ~
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:12 pm

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Votecount 1.6


Jamiet99uk (3): Aubrey, Lalendra, Epic Fial
Awoo (2): Jamiet99uk, CommKnight
Epic Fial (2): Assemblerotws, CheekyTeeky
CheekyTeeky (2): lucca261, Quick
CommKnight (2): Chisa Yukizome, lucca261
Maki Harukawa (1): northsidegal
Lalendra (1): Awoo

Not voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-11-03 10:00:00)
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:16 pm

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@MOD
, Lucca is voting for CommKnight.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 298, Quick wrote:
@MOD
, Lucca is voting for CommKnight.
Also, you have Cheeky voting twice. There might be other errors.

triple midterm in one day messing me up. Thanks for point it out ;3 ~ T
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