The Mod Is Mafia (Game Over)

[mastina]

Oh hey a pagetop.

Thirtieth Votecount

:

(Seventh Votecount D2)

DiamondSentinel - 5 (Radiant Moonlight, MarioManiac4, grapes, Mathblade, massive)

L- 3

Radiant Moonlight - 3 (Maestro, DiamondSentinel, Kise)

L- 5

camn - 1 (Smocaine)

L- 7

MarioManiac4 - 1 (camn)

L- 7

Smocaine - 1 (Ghostlin)

L- 7

mastina

- 1 (Not_Mafia)

L- O- L

Not Voting - 3 (Aronis, Theta Alpine, Stalfos)

With

15

alive, it takes

8

to lynch.

At deadline,

DiamondSentinel

would be lynched.

DiamondSentinel is at L-3

.

Day 2's deadline is Monday, November 13th, @ 6:30 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-11-13 21:30:19).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  

[mastina]

Creature has been prodded.

[camn]

now you have gone too far.

[Ghostlin]

Testing something out. Grapes are super delicious. They're so good to eat, they make me hard. Grapes are absolutely delicious.

[camn]

I dont know if I would go THAT far. grapes are good, sure... but the best ever?

[Ghostlin]

Everytime I've posted the phrase "grapes are delicious" mastina has edited it, so...I'm testing.

[DiamondSentinel]

Maybe don't say that you're testing something whenever you test something in the future.

[mastina]

now you have gone too far.

ALL MY PLAYERS ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME THEY SIGNED UP FOR THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

[mastina]

For that matter,
VOTE: Yume.
Lynch All Lurkers.

[mastina]

(Honestly I kinda forgot I could vote. )

[massive]

The one I asked about and you defending by saying you hadn't actually accidentally left anyone out of your catchup.

You thought that was a townslip? I'm confused.

I thought it was an indicator of town, yes. "Townslip" may be a hard word but I was on my phone at the time.

Let me get this straight. You're saying that if I had put everyone in the readlist, I'd be scum, because that's what good scum does. But since I didn't, you're saying that I'm careless town. Except that since it wasn't accidental and just a product of how I did my readlist, now I'm scum?

This logic is ridiculous.

No, I'm saying that doesn't make me think you're town any more. Your process is null. But given that the only reason I was townreading you was because of my misperception of your catchup, and you absolved me of that notion, I'm happy to follow my townreads.

[DiamondSentinel]

Creature has been prodded.

wait wat

creature what were your results you dolphin gunsmith

Creature is definitely dead, Theta. The mod is trolling, as is typical.

[Theta Alpine]

i know

i am just responding to the troll

[MathBlade]

It's okay...You've shown you're powerless not to antagonize the troll.

Do you have any reads?

[Theta Alpine]

a bit

radiant moonlight was kind of suspect after the whole mulch thing
also i just realized

mastina voted yume
who got replaced and is now maestro

anyways
i might make a readslist
and then vote every person in the game in order from town to scum
since mastina cannot edit valid votes

i need to actually organize my thoughts of this game into one place first though

[Ghostlin]

mastina voted yume
who got replaced and is now maestro

Why is this at all important?

[Stalfos]

Bleugh, I dunno what I was doing, but I somehow confused him for part of your hydra/your hydra's slot.

In that case, let me actually ISO him rather than having my readlist from memory.

Anyways, I will definitely discuss things with you. I discuss whatever seems to be the topic of discussion. When that's me or my reads, then yeah, I defend myself.

... you thought Aronis was us...
I mean that makes a lot of sense with how you were acting. The names are kind of similar, I guess.

You can choose the topic of discussion. I've asked you on your reads but you don't seem to be that interested in explaining them. That would be a good place to start.

Spoiler alert, Stalfos: I've no idea what I'm doing and I just fly by the seat of my pants. I'm probably the worst mafia player you'll ever meet, mostly because I don't have the same logical thought processes as you guys and I don't understand them at all. You guys talk about stuff and cross examine it, and all of it's moon logic to me. When you say "X means that they're scum", 95% of the time, I'm thinking "Wait, I took that as a townie thing to do".

Yes but when you come in and start saying how bad everyone is, it seems to me like you're trying to establish yourself as superior. I'm also a pretty terrible player in many respects.

Different people think in different ways, which is good. Theoretically you can bridge the gap with communication. Is there somewhere in particular that we've been using moon logic that you disagree with?

This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.

I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.

Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynch and then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town cred that it should probably eat rope)
Curious About Because They're The Subject of Discussion: Radiant Moonlight, DS

I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.

Okay, thank you.

We also had the possibility of you being scum, I just wanted to hear from you first.

Your entrance was very much rehashing the entire conversation that had been had at the start, and despite a couple good towny posts (1271/1272 stick out, I think I mentioned those D1) you transitioned from "helpful" into clogging up the thread with discussion of a scum slip. Considering that it's difficult to go back and check things, jumping to this assumption was on the one hand pretty odd and also makes a pretty good scum strategy to confuse people and make sure the wagon on Mulch didn't dissipate. You started D2 in full rage mode, and rage mode is an easy way to look town without doing anything.

Now you only have two scumreads, which you somehow blended to lead to your Smocaine vote. But I'm a bit happier with your posting today, not so much with his, so I'll join you there. I also seem to remember you making more posts about the "scumslip" but looking back it seems like either I'm mistaken or mastina has done some deleting so I'm not sure if I'm just remembering it badly.

VOTE: Smocaine


-Key

[Kise]

It's time to begin, isn't it?
I get a little bit bigger, but then I'll admit:
I'm just the same as I was.
Now don't you understand?
That I'm never changing who I am.

It's time to begin, isn't it?
I get a little bit bigger, but then I'll admit:
I'm just the same as I was.
Now don't you understand?
That I'm never changing who I am.

VOTE: RadiantMoonlight

@Kise intent here? Got edited by Mastina.

<<< I didn't edit anything! Kise really did quote Imagine Dragons. >>>

Intent to lynch RM

[DiamondSentinel]

Bleugh, I dunno what I was doing, but I somehow confused him for part of your hydra/your hydra's slot.

In that case, let me actually ISO him rather than having my readlist from memory.

Anyways, I will definitely discuss things with you. I discuss whatever seems to be the topic of discussion. When that's me or my reads, then yeah, I defend myself.

... you thought Aronis was us...
I mean that makes a lot of sense with how you were acting. The names are kind of similar, I guess.

You can choose the topic of discussion. I've asked you on your reads but you don't seem to be that interested in explaining them. That would be a good place to start.

Ok, I'll try my best to explain my reads. Next post I'll quote my old readlist and go through it. Fair warning, though, I'm terrible at explaining my reads, and I always have been.

Spoiler alert, Stalfos: I've no idea what I'm doing and I just fly by the seat of my pants. I'm probably the worst mafia player you'll ever meet, mostly because I don't have the same logical thought processes as you guys and I don't understand them at all. You guys talk about stuff and cross examine it, and all of it's moon logic to me. When you say "X means that they're scum", 95% of the time, I'm thinking "Wait, I took that as a townie thing to do".

Yes but when you come in and start saying how bad everyone is, it seems to me like you're trying to establish yourself as superior. I'm also a pretty terrible player in many respects.

Different people think in different ways, which is good. Theoretically you can bridge the gap with communication. Is there somewhere in particular that we've been using moon logic that you disagree with?[/quote]

I think of myself as a "do as I say not as I do". Mostly because of two things: first, I can't remember jack crap. I can't remember what I was thinking yesterday, much less last week. Secondly, I'm terrible at explaining myself. I'm a very gut-based person.

Basically, what I'm saying here is that I can't exactly provide examples of this on the spot. If you wait for me to have more time (which will be difficult, as I'm in class right now and I've got homework tonight), then I can go look for specific examples.

[DiamondSentinel]

It's time to begin, isn't it?
I get a little bit bigger, but then I'll admit:
I'm just the same as I was.
Now don't you understand?
That I'm never changing who I am.

It's time to begin, isn't it?
I get a little bit bigger, but then I'll admit:
I'm just the same as I was.
Now don't you understand?
That I'm never changing who I am.

VOTE: RadiantMoonlight

@Kise intent here? Got edited by Mastina.

<<< I didn't edit anything! Kise really did quote Imagine Dragons. >>>

Intent to lynch RM

Is RM at L-1?

[grapes]

do you think every player should have the exact same number of scumreads as there are scum?

That isn't what I'm saying here. When you're declaring more than half the game scummy it's going to make me want to dig in and see if you're someone who just takes a weird approach at the game or you're making up things; in diamonds case there's not a lot of reason to think it's him being genuine but a lot of things that make me think his reads aren't real.

And just as a for instance the fact he has RM and Mathblade both slotted as scumreads feels position-y especially when he's said he's fully read and even in a game where things get deleted it's hard to make sense of him there. I could maybe see some crazy world where he's got RM-town and mathblade scum as bad as that'd be, and math-town rm-scum is reasonable, but there's a few worlds where the first example would be pretty scum motivated. Couple that with a few other problems and I think it's pretty likely he flips scum here.

Also massive, although I've seen you change your mind; it's more than possible to manufacture a readslist while missing a few names.

[Smocaine]

Now you only have two scumreads, which you somehow blended to lead to your Smocaine vote. But I'm a bit happier with your posting today, not so much with his, so I'll join you there. I also seem to remember you making more posts about the "scumslip" but looking back it seems like either I'm mistaken or mastina has done some deleting so I'm not sure if I'm just remembering it badly.

Mastina went delete happy with those posts. On the real though, Mulch never PT slipped, I made that up

[Ghostlin]

Testing something out. Grapes are super delicious. They're so good to eat, they make me hard. Grapes are absolutely delicious.

Yeah baby!

I can't talk about my postive alignment read of you without Mastina editing it. In this case, a dirty fanfiction.

[Ghostlin]

Bleugh, I dunno what I was doing, but I somehow confused him for part of your hydra/your hydra's slot.

In that case, let me actually ISO him rather than having my readlist from memory.

Anyways, I will definitely discuss things with you. I discuss whatever seems to be the topic of discussion. When that's me or my reads, then yeah, I defend myself.

... you thought Aronis was us...
I mean that makes a lot of sense with how you were acting. The names are kind of similar, I guess.

You can choose the topic of discussion. I've asked you on your reads but you don't seem to be that interested in explaining them. That would be a good place to start.

Spoiler alert, Stalfos: I've no idea what I'm doing and I just fly by the seat of my pants. I'm probably the worst mafia player you'll ever meet, mostly because I don't have the same logical thought processes as you guys and I don't understand them at all. You guys talk about stuff and cross examine it, and all of it's moon logic to me. When you say "X means that they're scum", 95% of the time, I'm thinking "Wait, I took that as a townie thing to do".

Yes but when you come in and start saying how bad everyone is, it seems to me like you're trying to establish yourself as superior. I'm also a pretty terrible player in many respects.

Different people think in different ways, which is good. Theoretically you can bridge the gap with communication. Is there somewhere in particular that we've been using moon logic that you disagree with?

This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.

I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.

Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynch and then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town cred that it should probably eat rope)
Curious About Because They're The Subject of Discussion: Radiant Moonlight, DS

I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.

Okay, thank you.

We also had the possibility of you being scum, I just wanted to hear from you first.

Your entrance was very much rehashing the entire conversation that had been had at the start, and despite a couple good towny posts (1271/1272 stick out, I think I mentioned those D1) you transitioned from "helpful" into clogging up the thread with discussion of a scum slip. Considering that it's difficult to go back and check things, jumping to this assumption was on the one hand pretty odd and also makes a pretty good scum strategy to confuse people and make sure the wagon on Mulch didn't dissipate. You started D2 in full rage mode, and rage mode is an easy way to look town without doing anything.

Now you only have two scumreads, which you somehow blended to lead to your Smocaine vote. But I'm a bit happier with your posting today, not so much with his, so I'll join you there. I also seem to remember you making more posts about the "scumslip" but looking back it seems like either I'm mistaken or mastina has done some deleting so I'm not sure if I'm just remembering it badly.

VOTE: Smocaine


-Key

That would be because this game is literal cancer, particularly for a large.

Mastina did some...editing around that time of the day. Do me a favor, rest of Town as well...tell me your feelings on the grapes slot.

[DiamondSentinel]

do you think every player should have the exact same number of scumreads as there are scum?

That isn't what I'm saying here. When you're declaring more than half the game scummy it's going to make me want to dig in and see if you're someone who just takes a weird approach at the game or you're making up things; in diamonds case there's not a lot of reason to think it's him being genuine but a lot of things that make me think his reads aren't real.

And just as a for instance the fact he has RM and Mathblade both slotted as scumreads feels position-y especially when he's said he's fully read and even in a game where things get deleted it's hard to make sense of him there. I could maybe see some crazy world where he's got RM-town and mathblade scum as bad as that'd be, and math-town rm-scum is reasonable, but there's a few worlds where the first example would be pretty scum motivated. Couple that with a few other problems and I think it's pretty likely he flips scum here.

Also massive, although I've seen you change your mind; it's more than possible to manufacture a readslist while missing a few names.

Mario, just do a quick ISO of me in other games. I never have the "correct" number of scum. I don't do my readlists that way. I just see who is scummy.