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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:15 pm

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I recently calculated the win rates of Town/Scum for Normals and Newbies. Turns out if I win this game I will be about 5 pts below average for Normals as Town. I think newbies Scum win rates is like ~80% or something ridiculous like that and I have a 66.7% win rate as Town for Newbies. Just so you're aware.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:16 pm

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In post 1722, Boonskiies wrote:They could be S/S.

We should make them 1v1.
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:16 pm

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In post 1724, Tchill13 wrote:let's pretend LQ isn't in the game... who do you vote from (uzi/havo/Schadd)?
Probably Uzi right now, but i now have opposite paranoia In the sense I think that might be a mislynch.
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:18 pm

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In post 1725, LicketyQuickety wrote:I recently calculated the win rates of Town/Scum for Normals and Newbies. Turns out if I win this game I will be about 5 pts below average for Normals as Town. I think newbies Scum win rates is like ~80% or something ridiculous like that and I have a 66.7% win rate as Town for Newbies. Just so you're aware.
At this rate, you’ll have us all lower our win rates.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:20 pm

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In post 1725, LicketyQuickety wrote:I recently calculated the win rates of Town/Scum for Normals and Newbies. Turns out if I win this game I will be about 5 pts below average for Normals as Town. I think newbies Scum win rates is like ~80% or something ridiculous like that and I have a 66.7% win rate as Town for Newbies. Just so you're aware.
well now i'm aware you're more worried about justifying your play than reevaluating and maybe figuring out what else could be going on. why did you shoot boon before claiming you'd shoot uzi or Schadd? Now we're talking about lynching one of them. Had your "claimed action" gone through my belief is you would have killed our investigative role and left us with Schadd v Uzi. You need to be more careful with your actions and not lie ESPECIALLY if you're a pr. You have a chance to shed more light or cause more confusion as a pr. You would have caused more confusion. Please stick to your word next game for the sake of other townies on site.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:21 pm

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In post 1727, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1724, Tchill13 wrote:let's pretend LQ isn't in the game... who do you vote from (uzi/havo/Schadd)?
Probably Uzi right now, but i now have opposite paranoia In the sense I think that might be a mislynch.
Gut feel. No paranoia. Who ya got?
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:26 pm

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In post 1571, Havo wrote:
In post 1570, Boonskiies wrote:Tchill’s been semi buddying Havo indirectly all game, so there’s a chance Havo might not be scum. I’d probably through Status in there in that case, due to not having a lot of info on him/POE, with a chance of it being Schadd. But I wouldn’t look into them until a little after. Havo could still just be saying nope because I got one of the three wrong, though.
Yeah bro u got me wrong.

I think LUV / Chill / TSQ is more like it.
LUV/havo seems like a real possibilty now. I'm a believer it's much easier to throw one scum partner in your scum pool lists than it is to distance in other ways.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:27 pm

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In post 1545, Havo wrote:
In post 1543, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1541, Havo wrote:
In post 1539, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1537, Havo wrote:
In post 1534, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think Lalendra is Town.
What results did you get from your nite action? Specifically.
Why does it matter?
Because I'm trying to solve the damn game.

Did you get "No Result"?

Why would I get any result if I am Vig?
I've played about 8 or so games here. I've been VT in every one but 1 that I can remember. IDK what results are common but it appears that this site doesn't give jack shit hardly on results at all. Makes it predawn hard to figure out what has happened.

I'm pretty sure you were RB'd.

I'm pretty sure that either LUV, Schadd or Chill is scum. Because of who you said you were gonna shoot.
In post 1571, Havo wrote:
In post 1570, Boonskiies wrote:Tchill’s been semi buddying Havo indirectly all game, so there’s a chance Havo might not be scum. I’d probably through Status in there in that case, due to not having a lot of info on him/POE, with a chance of it being Schadd. But I wouldn’t look into them until a little after. Havo could still just be saying nope because I got one of the three wrong, though.
Yeah bro u got me wrong.

I think LUV / Chill / TSQ is more like it.
Why is schadd town and TSQ scum?
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:28 pm

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Yeah, Havo fits as scum in most scenarios in my head.

I don’t like that lalendra I keep forgetting about, haha.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:29 pm

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So I realized my early reads were pretty good. I was solid on LQ early. Solid on Serg and Mumble even, but then Mumble did the lynch me thing, so I wanted it gone. Acid was an early town read, but the flipped for me. So I’m going to move forward with that in mind.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:30 pm

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My early town reads are generally pretty good.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:30 pm

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i completely left her out of my lists on players lol. She's keeping a low profile for sure.
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:30 pm

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In post 662, Boonskiies wrote:Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:31 pm

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I’m going to move forward as if I captured the entirety of the scum team there.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:34 pm

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alright this is where im at. If uzi is scum havo is based to low interacxtion/weak distancing. LQ stated he might shoot uzi and was presumably role blocked which would give reason as to why LQ is RB'd. I have no associatives with schadd. With that in mind...

VOTE: uzi
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:35 pm

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But to LQ, we’re probably pointlessly throwing a partner under the bus. :roll:
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:36 pm

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In post 662, Boonskiies wrote:Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?
Doesn't help that lalendra and schadd are both low content.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 pm

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I don’t see how theorizing about a potential traitor makes me scum. Based on my experiences on this site, (Large 200, Large 205) I’ve always seen it on given to them.

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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:28 pm

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Aight, schadd, lalendra, Havo confirmed.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:51 am

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In post 1653, Boonskiies wrote:It’s already past the point of return. Even if you Unvote, I still think you are a liability. You’re the only thing that keeps me from being night killed right now, if you change your mind, I’m dead. Later in the game I get as town, the better my town game is. My Day 4 will be 100% accurate if I’m still here. That’s a guarantee.
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I don't like the 1v1 between Boon and LQ. LQ's reactions seem weird to me; Boon is getting very emotional, in what feels to me a genuine way, and LQ is just hanging back, being analytical in his responses, and not getting really invested in the exchange. I don't know if that's just playstyle or what (and I'm not necessarily advocating getting as invested as Boon is, to the point of aggression) but it seems weird to me. That said, I don't know that the weirdness, combined with Boon's PL deathtunnel, is really enough to make me want to vote him, but it certainly puts him on my list. I strongly TR Boon as this whole thing came across, to me, as frustrated town.

LUV though, the slip combined with the later "Oh haha I just did more digging, guess I was wrong" (which is plausible, but also an easy out for scum who got caught slipping)...that, combined with the fact that other people are very confident in reading him as scum, is enough for me to put my vote there.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:51 am

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In post 1743, Boonskiies wrote:Aight, schadd, lalendra, Havo confirmed.
You’re an ABSOLUTE mess. You should replace out.

You’re doing nothing but creating CONFUSION and you’re all over the place.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:33 am

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@Boons

The real question is WHY would scum allow you to live?

In what universe does scum not kill you or at least Role Block you?
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:34 am

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The risk of you outing a guilty would be pretty great wouldn’t it?
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:37 am

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I'm back from Las Vegas!

Just finished reading all the stuff.

So I think boon is questionable. His claim makes sense but I also feel like theres a good chance boon could make a claim like that AND set a claim like that up as scum. I also think that his arguments about it are not persuasive because of that fact.

I think the scum are within the group of [lalendra, schadd, luv, havo, boon]. In order of likely to least.

I think LQ is pretty much conf. town. Boon v LQ is likely indeed TvT which is why boon is at the end of my scum pool. I think maybe I'm just paranoid about him here because of the way he plays. I think if he were less jumpy I'd have him in the town camp pretty solidly. Though I'm not sure that the no kill makes much sense in the world he is trying to sell, and that gives me pause. If boon is scum tchill is also scum, but I think tchill is probably town otherwise.

I want to lynch either lalendra or schadd today. Lalendras play this game has been bad for the town. They've been on both ML, without being a person who has seemed to care about anything besides which direction the wagon was going. Her apology post at the end of day 1 also stands out to me as something that is weird from town. Basically lalendra has done nothing this game besides vote to lynch town players that others were pushing.

I also am pretty wary of how no one is bringing her up. Am I missing something here? Is this just the fact that she's been mostly very quiet and her scum partners aren't mentioning her?

VOTE: lalendra

I think y'all are attacking players because they're loud and not because they're scum. I think lalendra is flying under the radar here. Schadd too.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:44 am

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@Boons

WTH did you check Egg?

Wasn’t he almost a universal TR?
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