Open 695: Making Friends and Enemies [Mafia Win!]
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This could be legit town concern or it could be afraid his buddy gets lynched.In post 49, Quick wrote:
I've seen quicklynches happen and Scum got away with it because "oh I didn't know that was the hammer". I have this policy in all my games and its not because I am Scum. On top of that, I have never seen a quick wagon really amount to anything significant in a game. Some people will Town read the slot that is Quickwagoned, some will Scum read it. It just sucks for reading people actually, and there is the chance it ends in a quick lynch so I just try and avoid them altogether.In post 48, Awoo wrote:Why would you post that, quick? You should know RVS wagons are for gathering information, not for quicklynching.
Nice, looks like the game is on, babyI am going to VOTE: Awoo for piling onto an easy wagon formed during the shitposting phase. Scum love easy lynches.
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Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
VOTE: Awoo
Your comments thus far have been bugging something in the back of my head. I can't quite place it but I know it's usually right.- CommKnight
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In post 250, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Why do you think Lalendra could be scum really not getting that readIn post 246, CommKnight wrote:Maki HarukawaVadim
Lalendra
Awoo
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Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
VOTE: Awoo
Your comments thus far have been bugging something in the back of my head. I can't quite place it but I know it's usually right.Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum.
Gut
I know, crazy right? Ask Assemble, it's pretty dangerous (my gut feelings that is). Even if I can't logically argue it out, it's the vibe I get from people.
Also Quick is weak. Can't even read gut and feels the need to comment on it like he's adding some value. Either say why Awoo is town or gtfo.- CommKnight
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In post 272, Maki Harukawa wrote:
I understood you said gut but you must have some reasoning for any of these reads yes?In post 269, CommKnight wrote:In post 250, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Why do you think Lalendra could be scum really not getting that readIn post 246, CommKnight wrote:Maki HarukawaVadim
Lalendra
Awoo
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Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
VOTE: Awoo
Your comments thus far have been bugging something in the back of my head. I can't quite place it but I know it's usually right.Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum.
Gut
I know, crazy right? Ask Assemble, it's pretty dangerous (my gut feelings that is).Even if I can't logically argue it out, it's the vibe I get from people.
Also Quick is weak. Can't even read gut and feels the need to comment on it like he's adding some value. Either say why Awoo is town or gtfo.Even if I can't logically argue it out, it's the vibe I get from people.
it's the vibe I get from people.
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I feel like this is an effective form of communication with this group. Even the limited amount of what I have said is being overlooked, so pointing it out by breaking down my own posts might help.
@Quick, what does my gut add? How about being on the right track 9 times out of 10. What have you added so far in figuring anyone out besides scumreading town players who are scumming it up because you can't read them worth a lick and are taking the easy route out. I can actually talk about my last game since it finished not too long ago and guess what. Town kept going for the easy mislynches when I kept saying to them it wasn't those people. But am I ever listened to when I'm town? No. But when I'm mafia it's like everyone listens to me and I don't need to do diddly squat all then. But games like this where I'm town, I'm just stuck with a bunch of "why" people.
When my reads start flipping how I told you they would flip and we talk about it post-game, then you can ask yourself "Why didn't I listen to Comm, he's odd but he's a brilliant mofo when it comes to solving who scum are and scum probably should've killed him N1 unless they want to be outed by the time D3 rolls around, because by then he has the whole puzzle together. His D1's are a bit sketchy and he might not have zeroed in properly, but gee golly, his late-game play is like something out of the holy mafia scripture. I sure wish I could be just like him when I grow up."
You know what will help me get more solid reads? Flips. Flips. Flips. And the dumbass remarks people tend to make after them to distance themselves from it. I'm fine with being wrong once or twice, but based on how others react to my pushes when those pushes are flipped, it sure as hell paints a clear picture on what they are.
Now then, I'm going for my nightly nap. My brain is constantly running 19/7 with 5 hours of sleep max each night. My morning class is cancelled so I'm sleeping the **** in for an extra 3-4 hours. Just work on your townreading game of me and you're guaranteed to win 9 times out of 10 with believing in my gut.- CommKnight
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TimeShift Mafia 3 - Called fake cop out since D1. Town didn't believe me, nearly ended in my mislynch D3. We nearly lost because town refused to decide between cops for 2 whole days when I tore him apart.In post 303, Maki Harukawa wrote:Can you show me other games where you've done this
Bill Wurtz - This one was my first game and is very similar to this set-up (it had 2 masons and 2 mafia though with only 5 VTs). My gut was leading me down the right path D1 when calling out a player "too townie to be town." They ended up replacing out, but the CloudKicker/Morningtweet slot I had pegged D1 in my radar.
Simpsons Mafia - To be fair, with only 4 town and 1 being recruited N1, guessing scum was pretty easy, not even I knew how bad we were screwed by the time I could push lynches through. I correctly called Vax, 1SVT and Hiraki out though, even though all 3 were separate anti-town alignments.
Dayless IV - Literally it was no talking, some PMs that helped toward the end, but it was for most of the game 100% gut. Especially my very first shot on N3 to take out the Mafia Universal Roleblocker.
UPick - Called Yu and Drealm out based on logical gut.
Kill All Townies - Out of my scum list, the last post before I died, i was right on two of them. Not only that but I specifically said I was keeping one scum around to find out who was and wasn't scum yet that obv!Scum to me was never lynched afterward.
Diffusion of Power - This one is hilarious. So I got lynched D1, but I called out it right with my gut early on. With the entire mafia being on Sesq, I correctly TR'd Sesq but went after literally the only person I could've been wrong about on the wagon. The other 3 were scum and I said scum was on it. This is both gut and irony.In post 1798, CommKnight wrote:Town: Sesq, MariaR, Mario, Balki & Kawso
Scum: Tenshii, Flubbernugget, Siblings Pet Doggo, EchoVision
Kinda neutral-ish on the rest for now.
Honestly, using Siblings to know which people to kill off. I think Siblings and Flubber are mafia while Echo and Tenshii are werewolves.
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^ Set-up 2 was legit the actual setup and I called this out after replacing into the game. Hell, I called RC out before anyone else but people tend to TR RC for some stupid reason. RC is easy to read to me now after multiple games with him.In post 2034, CommKnight wrote:If I had to hard-place bets right now.
Set-up 1:
WW - Vedith & Realeo
Mafia - kmd
Town - RC, fitz & myself
Set-up2:
WW: RC & havingfitz
Mafia - Vedith
Town - kmd & Realeo
Vastly different but if it's set-up 1 like I hope, it should be a breeze for town to win. If it's set-up two, town is fucked.
C9++ - Have fun reading this one. I was onto both Narna and Umlaut before I was lynched D2.
Stacking the Deck - Legit had one scum pegged at the very beginning of D2 with no physical evidence. Had the traitor called out in a either A or B is scum. Aubrey was the only one who really got past me. (I tend to TR one scum most games, but the rest of the scum I always get in my scumdar).
Villain Mafia - Another fun one. I told town the vig was town and who he poisoned is probably scum. But hey, don't listen to me.
Bondage Mafia - Legit, my early reads were fantastic. This is a case of my second guessing my gut.
Shiba Inus - Actually this one is kinda funny. Town ended up digging their own grave when mafia was set up to die D2. But both N1 and N2 my predecessor and I jailed mafia. But I didn't jail the right mafia to survive.
Cosmopolitan - Called iisq out early in the game. No one helped me gain traction on him though.
Unpick - This one STILL pisses me off. So using both my gut AND logic, I narrowed down the two best lynches D1 to make it almost impossible for town to lose going into D2. (RC and Kingmaker). So if they went with my plan, both Scylla and Duck would've been cleared. Two of the easier mislynches of the game. Aside from myself, it would've also left RC with only 3 potential partners. With 1 mislynch available to us and assuming town TR'd me after getting scum lynched. We would've had a 66% chance of winning if we even just random lynched into those 3.
Tit for Tat - So before school started up, I had to replace out of a game because I was just too busy to commit the time. But in the 8 posts I made in this game. My pick one in which I said 2 scum are between the wagons and one was off. I was 100% right in. Gut, proven right.
Stack The Deck (Again) - So another run of Stack The Deck where we didn't get a single mafia lynch because every single day town worked against me. Look at all the lynches. Town did not help me at all trying to push high information lynches through. Then to make it worse, I was finally piecing it together on the final day before a townie placed a vote in his very first post of the day to make room for mafia to quick-hammer.- CommKnight
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Anyway, you wanted some examples. Well those are some examples where my gut had a major role in helping me figure some things out. My late game play is usually stronger than my early game play.
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I'd say yes I would. I stake my scum hunting skills on it quite often and rarely am I ever completely wrong. Wrong lynches happen all the time, especially when scummy town players scum it up worse than the actual scum. Ask Aubrey about that one. Bloody town falling apart at last moment and making themselves look like panicky scum and they get mislynched instead of the person who I had my eyes on already.In post 316, Jamiet99uk wrote:@CommKnight:
Do you trust your gut enough to stake your own neck on it?
Also Awoo is doing a lot better, not playing like a scummer, nor has the reaction been bad.
UNVOTE:
Jamiet comes off as noob-town. 100% easily mislynchable between now and LYLO because of his noobness.
My credentials only grow. The only thing I'm pissy with is when RC is obv!scum in the games I listed and town done goof it up. Even you were on my radar at one point as being alive for as long as you were in that game. But with all the lucky town PR kills, it was brushed off as mafia finding the PRs first.In post 325, Aubrey wrote: That was a fun game. I was wondering when you'd list out your credentials.
Slots help better refer to a slot in the player list. Because the players in that slot might change multiple times throughout the game, however, the role and alignment do not. (Except in Cult games).In post 327, Jamiet99uk wrote: Why do you call people "slots"? Why not "them" or "that person"? What a weird word choice. As for your question, it was an early, although sincere, vote - and I hadn't seen fit to move it. Lalendra is doing the exact same thing with a vote from the shitphase still being on me because, as Lalendra has said, they haven't had a better option yet. Do you scumread Lalendra for that behaviour, Aubrey?- CommKnight
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With Awoo dealt with and now off my list.In post 246, CommKnight wrote:Maki HarukawaVadim
Lalendra
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Gut is telling me that 2/4 of the above are scum. The other remains in the ones not on this list.
VOTE: Awoo
Your comments thus far have been bugging something in the back of my head. I can't quite place it but I know it's usually right.
VOTE: Maki Harukawa
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You do realize that, I, as town, you are asking me to gamethrow if I am wrong about a lynch?In post 342, Jamiet99uk wrote:@CommKnight: While I'm still playing: So, do you agree to the following?
- If I sheep your vote this turn, and (y)our target is lynched, and flips TOWN, then you agree that YOU will be the lynch tomorrow, and to that ens, will vote for yourself tomorrow in
those circumstances?
VOTE: Jamiet
Maybe he really is a noob!Scum.
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Like it's sad because I'm wondering about his reading comprehension/memory skills right now. I've said that my D1's are usually worse. I've said flips help me piece together the puzzle better. I've said that expecting me to gamethrow is a bad idea (and right now is one of the primary reasons I am voting him, I refuse to back down because someone wants to pull that kind of shit). Even more, I've said I can be wrong.
But I'm pretty much always onto something in each of my games. It's easier to see where I fucked up at the end when the flips are better revealed, but in every one of my games the scum end up in the radar. When they leave the radar is more often than not when someone (like you) does something worse that gains all of my attention.- CommKnight
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Well then you're fucked. Because my scum track record is even better than my town track record.In post 370, Quick wrote:
Just throwing this out there, but what if you are Scum?In post 368, CommKnight wrote:Like it's sad because I'm wondering about his reading comprehension/memory skills right now. I've said that my D1's are usually worse. I've said flips help me piece together the puzzle better. I've said that expecting me to gamethrow is a bad idea (and right now is one of the primary reasons I am voting him, I refuse to back down because someone wants to pull that kind of shit). Even more, I've said I can be wrong.
But I'm pretty much always onto something in each of my games. It's easier to see where I fucked up at the end when the flips are better revealed, but in every one of my games the scum end up in the radar. When they leave the radar is more often than not when someone (like you) does something worse that gains all of my attention.
So as I said before. Better be able to town read me correctly this game otherwise it's just a mislynch waiting to happen based on fear of what ifs.- CommKnight
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Now this had me curious so I dived into your topics to find which game we shared.In post 375, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ve misread CommKnight before (at least I think I was wrong. I was night killed, so I don’t remember.) I’m just going to state he’s town because it seems easier than dealing with him right now.
Shibu Inus - The one where I was jailor, I replaced someone who outed my role before I replaced in and I died before you...
This is the only game I can see us sharing. Unless you're an alt, we legit share no other games together.
So I guess MY question is... how could you misread a slot which was already outed role wise and then brush it off? Sorry, but you're reading as buddying now when it's mixed with what Assemble said before he replaced out.- CommKnight
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{CheekyTeeky}
{Awoo, Aubrey}
{northsidegal, Maki Harukawa, Chisa Yukizome}
{Flavor Leaf, Quick, Epic Fial}
{Jamiet99uk, Lalendra, lucca261}
Definitely a bit firmer of a readlist than before. I want to brush Jamiet off as a noob!Town. But his play is just soo scummy. Like I don't know any other site that I have ever played on that would read his play as town. So I can't even say "Oh, it's the culture over there." Because I bet if I entered the site, it definitely isn't.
Also his bitching about the mod and replacements seems like he's trying to push the topic away from himself. Blaming it on the community when every mafia forum I used before this has always had a reserve list in case of site flakes or people taking on more than they can handle at the time. This is the first site where the game begins without a reserve list already made up that I've been to though. But that also means a lot of other sites are use to people replacing out or bailing as well. So his attitude is unneeded.
I think I'm just waiting to see some flips though before I can get into figuring this one out. There's a few ways it can go and I'm trying to do it where mafia are forced to out themselves.- CommKnight
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Same, I was completely out of it last night.In post 546, Aubrey wrote:Hey guys, I'll hopefully be catching up sometime today. Been enjoying Halloween weekend activities.
VOTE: Quick
You're dropping down deep on my list.- CommKnight
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Well Quick, aside from the fact that as Awoo has pointed out, you glaze over shit to look townie and only pick out what you want to pick out in context wise. Then yes, I'd say that's grounds for voting you. You've not done a damn thing so far to convince me to TR you either. So you also have that now working against you.In post 561, Torque wrote: [/color]
Then notice the wagons. I say this because this is important. Awoo, Cheeky and myself are 3 other "wagons" against Quick. Which funny enough all 3 of us are currently on Quick. But Awoo and Cheeky are the two higher TR's I have at the moment. So that means if I'm right about both of them, between the 6 people on our wagons, there's definitely scum involved. Now they haven't hopped over to Quick yet, so I'll assume I'm right in saying Quick is scum this game.
Actually if I'm correct about Awoo and Cheeky both being town which is a pretty damn high chance right now. I'd say there's 2 scum in the six voting us. So assuming Quick flips scum, one of the other 5 is scum as well.
But I don't think scum would be stupid enough to put all their eggs in those baskets. So someone on or off of the Quick wagon who isn't on myself Awoo or Cheeky is definitely a scummer too.
Awoo (2): Jamiet99uk, Quick
CheekyTeeky (2): lucca261, Maki Harukawa
CommKnight (2): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial
Quick (4): CheekyTeeky, Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (1): Aubrey
Not voting: Lalendra
So what I am saying right now. I believe there are...
2 scum in: Jamiet, Quick, Lucca, Maki, Chisa and Epic (funny enough really all of these aren't in my TR's).
1 scum in: Cheeky, Awoo, northside, Flavor, Aubrey and Lale. Which I say Cheeky and Awooa re town so really only northside, Flavor, Aubrey and Lale for the other scummy.
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And your slot is 100% expendable even if you somehow flip town. I have yet to see any real good reads list from you that would remotely help us out.
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^In post 578, Awoo wrote:But that's the opposite of what he's doing.
"Actually thinking about things."... Me-thinks you aren't thinking about the "content" Quick has posted so far. Basically you're townreading him for some reason that actually does not exist. If you're really town Jamie, you're falsely townreading Quick for his long posts. But the truth is a lot of his "content" is fluff. It's misinterpreting things.
Come on, I'll fight Fial, Jamie, and Quick today. You guys get the handicap numbers because it's obvious the processing power isn't there to even, as a scum-team, figure out why you guys are going down-hill here. It's like watching a snake eat its' own tail and question why it's dying.- CommKnight
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This alone keeps you low on the list. Anyone who would TR Quick right now sends off red flags in my head. His "content" is shitty wall posts that amount to nothing of value. His scum reads are some of my biggest town reads, so his conclusions are also to me evidently wrong. It's sending up that signal that this is scum trying to look busy and thus creates walls of posts pushing on the townier players trying to gain traction for a mislynch.
For me I don't care if I'm lynched or not. All I care about in my town games is figuring out the puzzle. Sure I might lose the game. But if I solve it, that's the challenge and fun in it for myself.
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Note: Everyone who has experience with me are townreading me.
Think on that for a moment and then look at your reads.
Either I'm magically scum with everyone I've played with before or they're posting their actual read of me. Hmmm. What one could it be.
Also note that Flavor TR's me but I don't TR him. We've had multiple games together (same as the predecessor Assemble).
But you know, let's act like the TI and pretend that it's a conspiracy.
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@Aubrey.
1.) Fuck Drag. I was pretty good with my reads that game and we might've had scum D1 without his negative ass tunneling me. But I did manage to get him lynched in that 1v1. So Quick might want to consider rethinking 1v1'ing me with multiple TR's. He just dislikes my *CONFIDENCE* (Ego but with more sureness).
2.) I was bloody right that game too.
Xayzeck MMM, havingfitz, Aubrey, XnadrojX (4)
I had both goons right in this damn buddy list. I even said I could not account for Traitor votes/being voted. I also said that game that one of MMM/Shinobi was scum and the other was town 100% I called Xay out early as all fuck and town didn't believe me. Also vote count 1.5, me, your and Xay nearly lynched your traitor. LOLOL he must've been like GUYS DON'T VOTE ME I'M WITH YOU! That game was a pain... and so was that colour coding...
Also Quick, I ISO'd you ass. Here's the list of people you gone after so far.
- Jamiet
- north
- Awoo
- Comm
Legit, you gone after myself and 2 tr/tl slots. While briefly looking at jamie and then going back to tr'ing him for some unknown reason.
You basically haven't even addressed others outside of a single post really besides us 4. So yes, your posts come off as fake content. I mean hell... we're talking about 80+ posts vs my 20 something. So quadriple my posts but not quadriple the amount of people you looked into. Not even close.- CommKnight
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Awoo (1): Jamiet99uk
CommKnight (5): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, lucca261, Quick, Maki Harukawa
Quick (4): CheekyTeeky, Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (1): Aubrey
Not voting: Lalendra
^ This is as the vote count currently stands.
CommKnight (6): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, lucca261, Quick, Maki Harukawa, Jamiet99uk
Quick (6): CheekyTeeky, Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Aubrey, Flavor Leaf
Not voting: Lalendra
^ This is what the vote count is going to look like.
There's going to be some clear associations whomever is lynched and flipped. So I say go ahead. I'd love for every scummy on my wagon to be burned if I am to die. I don't think Lale is going to vote Quick, but that's fine. I'm fine with this because when I flip green, ya'll gonna be fucked with my top TR's staying off my wagon. It's like shooting ducks in a barrel.
Also this is TvS 100%. His 80+ posts have resulted in nothing but fluff and bitching about other people's fluff while still being fluff.
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(6):CommKnight,Chisa Yukizome,Epic Fial,lucca261,Quick,Maki HarukawaJamiet99uk
(6):Quick,CheekyTeeky,Awoo,northsidegal,CommKnight,AubreyFlavor Leaf
Not voting:Lalendra
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Placing my bets now since I might not get the chance later and so I can't back out at end of game and say I read people differently.
I feel pretty confident with the people on Quick being town all except Flavor. Not a single person on me (or Lale) would I feel comfortable sliding anywhere close to town/not lynchable. I will say Chisa is more likely town than the rest of the neutrals. But not enough I'd say give them a pass.
Watch out for Flavor, if there's scum not voting me, he's it.
Epic and Maki I feel meh about. Not any hard SR's there. Lale is another meh but others seem to SR them (Aubrey in particular).
But I'm willing to bet 2/3 of my red's are indeed scum with the other slipping into my neutral or TR's.- CommKnight
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Lol called this vote ahead of time. Mind you I'm still waiting for an actual good vote against me. I hope the hammer actually has a good reason and not because they don't like how I play. Because then I'm going to LOL so hard post-game when I flip green and Quick flips red.In post 615, Jamiet99uk wrote:
Just because some of them may "actually" townread you doesn't magically mean they're all correct. This is your best defence? A raw appeal to meta? You behaved this way as town before, so you MUST be town today? Bull. Shit.In post 603, CommKnight wrote:Note: Everyone who has experience with me are townreading me.
Think on that for a moment and then look at your reads.
Either I'm magically scum with everyone I've played with before or they're posting their actual read of me. Hmmm. What one could it be.
Also note that Flavor TR's me but I don't TR him. We've had multiple games together (same as the predecessor Assemble).
But you know, let's act like the TI and pretend that it's a conspiracy.
Maybe if you spent a bit more time scumhunting, and a bit less time shouting at everyone who disagrees with you and telling us how big your testicles are, I'd have more sympathy with you.
As it is, you apparently just want everyone to follow you out of religious faith rather than for any logical reason, like you're the town messiah.
Try harder.
VOTE: CommKnight
Think about this: Out of the 6 people voting me... 2-3 are scum. So there's only 3-4 town duped into it and if it really is Quick and Jamiet being the townies on my wagon. I can foresee town losing this game.
@Aubrey, Flavor & Lale. Not many days left and this is going to be the most informative 1v1 in the game. So put your foot in the line with your votes. Because the wagons are going to be picked apart tomorrow by whoever lives tomorrow that are town (I'm referring to Cheeky, Aubrey and Awoo since they're probably the only townies here who will be any good in actual scum hunting. Mind you killing them at night also risks outing the actual scum team even to the ones who are fooled right now).- CommKnight
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Honestly this threw me off. I was ready for Lale to be the hammer on me.In post 626, Lalendra wrote:
I like this. This, more than anything else Comm has said so far, gives me warm town fuzzies.In post 612, CommKnight wrote:(6):CommKnight,Chisa Yukizome,Epic Fial,lucca261,Quick,Maki HarukawaJamiet99uk
(6):Quick,CheekyTeeky,Awoo,northsidegal,CommKnight,AubreyFlavor Leaf
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Placing my bets now since I might not get the chance later and so I can't back out at end of game and say I read people differently.
VOTE: Quick
Also Maki's switch is noted. It should be noted for everyone. I mean I'm glad it's not 100% mislynch on me now. But not standing firm in their vote and just wanting to lynch one of the two top-wagons. If Quick somehow flips town, I'd be questioning that slot a bit more going into tomorrow (if I am there tomorrow).
@Flubber. Hello, you're town. Your predecessor already convinced me of that. It's either me or Quick today since he was so eager to 1v1 me that all other wagons dissolved today. So I suggest while reading/skimming through you pay attention to both of our posts a bit more. (My ISO is a lot shorter and quicker to read than his, I promise. I don't have 80+ posts). Also look for possible associates pending flip and how people decided to vote on each wagon. Anything really that will help you analyze both wagons pending flips.
Also... Quick is at L1, if he's lynched and not me, whoever intends to hammer, give him a chance to claim Mason/Not Mason. if he's hammered before he claims. i will rip right into that person tomorrow 150%. This is meant for those new to this site *cough* Jamie *cough*. So no bullshit about meta from your previous sites. You hammer him without a claim, I'll rip you a new ass tomorrow.- CommKnight
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Kill All Townies - Remember this game? You died D2, but I was pretty damn set on flips in this game.In post 641, Flubbernugget wrote:commknight I don't have any recollection of you being so adamant about flips before- CommKnight
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I'm watching Friday The 13th, ready to eat this candy if no one comes to my door....In post 660, Aubrey wrote:It Halloweeeeeeeeeeeen! Which meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeans, this game will be dead to me for most the night! Unless I get back to the home early. Be safe, and have fun to those who celebrate. Horror movie night with the friends I gooooooooo!(as soon as I leave work, cry*)
Also tomorrow is candy shopping day FYI.
Loving the "I'll hammer Comm if I have to." post. Like get scum read dude. There's a reason you're no where near my town reads. You guys voting me can't even keep a fucking firm stance on me. Now that the wagon is dissolving you're bailing out like a damn coward who just wanted the damn mislynch.
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And then?
You're right. I haven't. Because you're stuck on disliking my confidence than having a real case against me. Look at those that are already jumping off me. Like dude, tunneling me and 1v1'ing me was a bad mistake. Unless you can get a wagon on someone scummier, me vs you. You're dead 100%.
So what's it gonna be? Make an actual good case to convince us to lynch someone else, or get hung?- CommKnight
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This game has mostly been gut for me so far. That's my case and people didn't like it or my confidence in my gut.In post 687, Flubbernugget wrote:Ehhhh comm the best you have is a cw theory that I'm not big on
Would like a post number from you too
Well my gut seems to be showing people jumping wagons last moment.
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Nah Flubber, the 4 people thing ain't my case against him. It's just pointing out how shitty his "scum hunting" has been thus far. He's barely even looked at other people. His TR of Jamie is like WTF worthy.
My gut is pinging me all the way on this one and the wagon hopping is just furthering my suspicions.
Fastposted. I am relying on my gut here. It's where my initial vote came from. Doesn't mean there isn't things adding up against him afterward.- CommKnight
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I'm also making posts about others and saying their actions are scummy/bad. Sure it's convenient. It's also convenient he's voting me without a real case. It's also convenient that two of the worst players this game are TR'ing each other for bullshit reasons.
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Yeah but your gut was shit that game too.
Let's see: "game, Balki, gamma/Maria(ish For scum"... All 4 of them were town. Meanwhile I called Siblings out D1 and said I am only leaving them alive to know who NOT to lynch. My gut = right. Your gut = wrong. Simple as that.
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Legit Quck's reads are ass backwards. Scummiest people that are easier to manipulate in his TR's and the more solid town tell players with a confidence in their reads on is scum list. Look Flubber, he even has you there. Why? Because your slot is town and he wants to cast shade.
Also Flubber, you completely missed the point entirely.
- My initial vote was on gut.
- I am pointing out scummy shit as I see it which reaffirms my initial gut read.
What the hell do you not see in that? I'm not just tunneling and refusing to take in new info. I'm taking in new info and it's adding to reasons why I shouldn't town read him.- CommKnight
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So let's see. You have an issue with me pointing out flaws in someone who wants to 1v1 me and is refusing to look at other people.In post 717, Flubbernugget wrote:Comm,
My issue is that you seemed to have only started acting on that second point two days before deadline, and only on the single person you can use to make sure you're alive tomorrow.
Yeah, sure. About that. How about no. As I see it, I'm calling it out.
Also Maki is definitely a viable alternative. Their play today is horrendous. First vote me, then Quick, now... no one when we're so close to deadline.
I could also lynch Jamie or even Epic Fial. Lucca is redeeming himself a bit, not much, but a bit.
But while everyone is too busy picking their noses, currently it's a 1v1 between Quick and myself. So yes, I'm going to pick him apart, because I'd rather a mislynch on him than a mislynch on me from my perspective. Because the mislynch on him is possibly an actual scum lynch. The mislynch on me is 100% a town lynch. So yeah, I'd rather see myself alive tomorrow than someone who is very likely to be scum at this point.- CommKnight
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Oh yes, his ability to one-line quotes with fluff. Much skill. So wow. When you actually read it instead of being dense, you'll see half of it is shit. Then his defense of you constantly even in his crusade to quote Awoo is not helping matters to TR either of you two. I could legit go for either of you today.- CommKnight
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In post 740, Quick wrote:For Comm, I don't think he ever really says he should be town read, but I can totally see him using like some kinda subliminal messaging which is trying to push the agenda that he is Town.
Go ahead and ISO him and search "Town".
On that argument, ISO me and search "Scum". It comes up more often... But you know. Don't want to tell the FULL story to yet another shitty push on me.- CommKnight
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Well some of those are in quotes too btw. So can't forget those to subtract from my totals!!!
Also no. No I can't. My answer bank is all dried up. Still awaiting my check to check to come in so I can withdraw more answers. Right now I am answer broke.- CommKnight
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In post 751, Aubrey wrote: Comm, don't turn this game into a "you're shit, and you're shit, and you're shit" type of game plz. It quickly just turns the environment into a toxic(ier) one.
@Quick, so were we right or are you going to keep us waiting until your flip?- CommKnight
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...In post 762, Awoo wrote:I don't think that was a quick hammer, wasn't he at L-2?- CommKnight
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In post 777, Aubrey wrote:OH SHIT MAKI UNVOTED! I thought she was voting Comm.
VOTE: Jamie
^ Next in line for scum lynch. I got class at the moment... but that was an epic fail on more than one instances.
1.) For pointing out it wasn't the hammer. (Hint: When you can make someone believe it's the hammer, push them to admit they're scum).
2.) Aubrey didn't know it wasn't the hammer vote (Aubrey, that looks very bad on you dude. I thought you were doing what I said in 1).
@Quick. Vote Jamie with me. Stop TR'ing that shit slot. His reactions are piss poor if they are truly from a townie.- CommKnight
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Yes I do believe I can. My vote = 1. I know there's 3-4 others who scum read Jamie. They're bound to be online. Do you prefer it's Quick or I today? Like are you dead set on that given recent posts?
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Any scum can buddy a person they know to be town who is being scumread by town to look more townie. But I suppose he might not be that bright to do that as scum? Not sure, don't got meta to go on.In post 801, Aubrey wrote: The only thing hindering me from saying yes was Jamiet's declaration that Quick was town through all of this.
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Flubber, you're doing super bad right now. You're acting like people can't change reads as new information presents itself and I am not sure if you have scum motivation in pushing that narrative or if you really are just that much of a VI.- CommKnight
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Sure.In post 866, northsidegal wrote:@flubber and @comm, both of you either justify where your vote is right now or move it in your very next post.
CommKnight (3): Epic Fial, Quick, Maki Harukawa
Quick (1): Flubbernugget,
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Jamiet99uk (4): CommKnight, lucca261, Awoo, Lalendra
Lalendra (3): northsidegal, Jamiet99uk, Aubrey
Not voting: Chisa Yukizome
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-11-03 10:00:00)
^ Current status of votes.
3 biggest wagons: Myself, Jamiet and Lale. No one else is even viable. You're asking me to move my vote off the CURRENT BIGGEST WAGON and onto someone I have a more townier read from.
Not gonna happen. I'm voting one of the current potential lynches. So what if you TR Jamie. I sure as hell do not. My vote stays. Jamie or bust.- CommKnight
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Maki
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Quick
Lale
^ The four people North voted throughout the entire day yesterday.
Honestly, it's weird she was killed. Yes she had some big posts that were analytical but the kill doesn't make sense as it doesn't set anyone up objectively of being lynched. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say scum either didn't feel threatened enough to lash out at one of their attackers or this was done to keep the two active sides voting each other and ignoring them.
So I'm going to do something that might just light that fire under their ass needed to make a decision to take out one of our sides at night.
I'm going to say: Quick, Jamie, Awoo and Lale are off the table today as lynchables. (Myself included). I'm going to go ahead and say there's 1 scum in the group of 5 of us. But I'm going to put that aside for now because there's two other scum out there. But of the actives and the wagons yesterday, 1 of us 5 are definitely scum. But I believe 100% the other 4 will be town.
Which means what I am proposing for the table today is: Flavor, Flubber, Maki, Aubrey, Chisa, Epic and Lucca. Now I personally still believe Chisa and Aubrey to be town but for now I'll say if there's a good enough case made about them, then I'm fine with that.
My list of lynchables are down to 5 once I take out my TR's and unless a good case is made against them, I'm not going to consider otherwise.
Honestly I don't care if someone has a problem with my suggested course of action because I'm going to push it through confidently today. We need to weed out scum and set ablaze the grass they hide behind. To do that, you take all the lynch baits, put them aside and go after the ones who are hovering in the neutral zone and trying to keep their noses cleaned. Because in that pile you are guaranteed to find scum, especially if both leading wagons yesterday were on town.
VOTE: lucca
I see no better place to start for now. Will build my case later. But this is where my vote is being currently parked.- CommKnight
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You could say the same for the wagon on Lale. But that's none of my business.In post 934, Aubrey wrote:So the Lucca wagon is kinda garbage right now. I have yet to hear one valid reason for his lynch. VOTE: Lalednra- CommKnight
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Let me put this to you Aubrey. Anything I say publicly, will null and void any plans I cook up because whatever I tell you, I also tell scum.In post 952, Aubrey wrote:
While it's on my mind, Comm. I initially assumed you had a case btw. Am I correct, or are you just waiting for him to fly off the lid?...In post 915, CommKnight wrote:Will build my case later.
That's the problem with playing mafia, even those you are certain are town, you cannot fully relay any information to without also relaying that same information to scum. So once you town read someone and want to know their plans, if you want those plans to work, you need to read between the lines of said plans to look for what they're really after. This is to keep scum having to be constantly on their game with figuring out if they're trapped or not.
If I were to reveal my plan to you here and now, then they'd know whether or not they're trapped and could weasel their way out. If I keep my mouth shut for a while longer, they could be already in the trap or they could walk into it thinking they were in it to try and get out of it.
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I always play in a way that I never show my full hand in any given game. Occasionally I'll show a few cards or even talk about my plan from another game. But I'll never show a full hand in an ongoing game.
Sometimes it might come off negatively. But I play with the thought process that only I will be able to understand what I'm going after because a lot of people lack the analytical skills required to break down my tactics here. It's nothing on them, but it's the fact they aren't use to this sort of playstyle for the most part.
A Simple Plan has been one of the few people here who seems to be able to break down the code behind what I'm doing for the most part. I think Aubrey is pretty close to that level but also last time we played he was scum. So that might be throwing his reads for a loop because back then he was trying to figure me out as town or traitor. But he knew I wasn't goon. Now this game where he's town, that certainty is gone from him because he now needs to compare this play to the last time we played. This time he has less information about me than he did back then. So it'll be interesting to see if he can figure out what I am doing here or not.- CommKnight
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And Epic Fial is either stupid town or stupid scum. Either one has the same modifier.
Funny how BEFORE he was mod killed, I said he was one of the ones to leave off the block today. So you know what you can do? Kiss my ass.
Now we're going to continue this little game with the suggested pool I gave. Obviously I was on the right track. He was town, the D1 wagons were probably all on town, now to aim for the scum that thought it was smart to play too neutral. Now neutral = bad news for them. They're either going need to gain a pair of balls and make a stand or be outed in this fun little roulette I'm hosting.
Out of 3 scum, I believe one is already slotted into my little trap.
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