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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:09 pm

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In post 298, northsidegal wrote:
In post 295, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 279, northsidegal wrote:if i had to place it i would probably put sheep as a slight scumlean for the unvote in and how he hasn't placed it anywhere yet
VOTE: north there you go
oh my gosh,
you
suck!
DAMN. you called it before me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P
so...i don't get enough sleep
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:10 pm

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^scum
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:14 pm

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279 is a scumclaim
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:15 pm

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:facepalm:
UC Voyager wrote:
In post 295, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 279, northsidegal wrote:if i had to place it i would probably put sheep as a slight scumlean for the unvote in and how he hasn't placed it anywhere yet
VOTE: north there you go
one hell of a omgus!!!! AND IT IS PASSED RVS!!!!!!even if you are town, town isn't always right, so NSG could have been wrong!, but this seems scummy as hell
what exactly is scummy about an omgus vote? walk me through your thought process, ucv.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:47 pm

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In post 303, northsidegal wrote:thought process, ucv
an OMGUS vote in RVS is one thing because everyone know it is a joke!


an OMGUS that is serious late day one is shity!
so...i don't get enough sleep
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:48 pm

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In post 237, northsidegal wrote:
In post 235, PMysterious wrote:
While this is counter-evidence, not only was it requested,
but it also shows, that Trans can not be trusted, whether he is Town or not.
Every game shown gives a showcase that Trans could be Town, Mafia, or third party. I'm getting some scum vibes, so I'm sticking with Trans as my option for the lynch. I'll look into the 50+ posts he made this game for more thoughts.
explain this, please (the bold). what did you say in the beginning of the post that would indicate that he can't be trusted, town or not?
every game shows that he could be town, mafia or third party? erm, exactly what conclusion do you draw from that statement? that's true for everyone in the game and is a function of the random role assignments rather than a meta playstyle. if you're trying to say that this style of posting doesn't indicate that transcend is town, that's fine, but you've also just proven to yourself and to everyone else that it also doesn't indicate that he's mafia or third party. so what made you end up choosing scum over "it's non-alignment indicative"?
It's more of a trust thing, as the last time I played against Trans, he was Mafia. There's not much difference between that game and the last game I played with him in, so I'm more inclined, based on my nature of playing with the guy, that he's more than likely Scum.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:57 pm

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In post 304, UC Voyager wrote:
In post 303, northsidegal wrote:thought process, ucv
an OMGUS vote in RVS is one thing because everyone know it is a joke!


an OMGUS that is serious late day one is shity!
it may indicate
bad
play, but does it indicate scum? if so, why?
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:58 pm

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Transfats are bad and transcend took the fat out of them so he must be town
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:01 pm

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In post 305, PMysterious wrote:
In post 237, northsidegal wrote:
In post 235, PMysterious wrote:
While this is counter-evidence, not only was it requested,
but it also shows, that Trans can not be trusted, whether he is Town or not.
Every game shown gives a showcase that Trans could be Town, Mafia, or third party. I'm getting some scum vibes, so I'm sticking with Trans as my option for the lynch. I'll look into the 50+ posts he made this game for more thoughts.
explain this, please (the bold). what did you say in the beginning of the post that would indicate that he can't be trusted, town or not?
every game shows that he could be town, mafia or third party? erm, exactly what conclusion do you draw from that statement? that's true for everyone in the game and is a function of the random role assignments rather than a meta playstyle. if you're trying to say that this style of posting doesn't indicate that transcend is town, that's fine, but you've also just proven to yourself and to everyone else that it also doesn't indicate that he's mafia or third party. so what made you end up choosing scum over "it's non-alignment indicative"?
It's more of a trust thing, as the last time I played against Trans, he was Mafia. There's not much difference between that game and the last game I played with him in, so I'm more inclined, based on my nature of playing with the guy, that he's more than likely Scum.
(assuming by "that game" you actually meant "this game")
i get your argument here about a similar playstyle indicating similar alignments, but didn't you go through his meta and find that his playstyle is more or less always the same, regardless of alignment? if that's the case, does it really make sense to call him scum based on playstyle just because the last game you played with him, he was scum? shouldn't it be non-alignment indicative?
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:13 pm

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In post 272, Gödel wrote:I don't have enough to go on for now that I have a player that I am sure enough as scum, i do have some leans though nm for his trolling play style I have seen this from him in the past as scum. I also don't like some of UCs posts, not the beginning ones where she tried to(or not) play the newbie card how it seems like she keeps on referencing other games(or something the like) and not really engaging. I think NSD and A50 are town cus the interaction felt TvT. and the rest is still ambiguous.
It is the end of Day 1. You should be
voting
someone. But you're still avoiding taking a stance. Why do you think it felt TvT? I'm feeling a disappointing lack of detail from you.

I don't think I like Assemble or UCV as today's lynch, though of the two UCV is definitely the scummier and if necessary I'd vote there. Would much, much prefer Goedel.

N_M, why do you think that a UCV/Assemble scum team would be cross voting at this point?

Transcend wrote:279 is a scumclaim
I'd be surprised if North faked that post as scum. (sorry North)

sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 279, northsidegal wrote:if i had to place it i would probably put sheep as a slight scumlean for the unvote in and how he hasn't placed it anywhere yet
VOTE: north there you go
really
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:47 pm

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Let me address those of you who
are not trying too hard it sucks


1-
The TOWN
is the uninformed majority by definition
2- Being uninformed makes you suspicious of everyone at the start of the game
3- You may or may not feel inclined to trust some more than others on D1 based on their play
4- Regardless if your own intentions to support a wagon or lack of such support; you cannot be
strongly
opposed to one certain lynch unless you have extra info about their alignment
5- There is no day cop in this setup
6- Hence having extra info means you are scum

Like, I'm not gonna vote X, Y or Z myself, but I won't be going all-in in their defence should a wagon start on either of them. I don't think they're scum but I don't know that for sure, so I'll let the town decide collectively on whether said person appears scummy to each of the other players independently.

So, yes.. Doggie looks overly scummy to me. Yet the majority has decided he's not scummy enough for them to vote there which is fine. What's not is someone acting not only as if they're not convinced but rather as of hey were
certain
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:01 pm

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why me?
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:10 pm

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In post 311, Transcend wrote:why me?
Cuz you do. How much more should I explain it to you? Your play simply doesn't look like serving any purpose except for getting by. No real scum hunting, no real arguments, and not even the "intimidating" trolling you used in Real Folks Blues. I mean, you were trolling there too, but it was kind of reckless as if you didn't care if you pissed the whole lot. You're not doing that here either. You're being too careful yet totally unproductive.

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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:11 pm

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maybe you should stop metaing me because i promise you it's not gonna be a good idea
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:24 pm

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In post 313, Transcend wrote:maybe you should stop metaing me because i promise you it's not gonna be a good idea
Then do something
in this game
that I can use to get a read on you. Show me some effort, GDI.

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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:05 am

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well i'm voting someone you sus and i've been voting her since page 1 of this game

does that not qualify as doing something?
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:53 am

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In post 315, Transcend wrote:well i'm voting someone you sus and i've been voting her since page 1 of this game

does that not qualify as doing something?
Not if you don't give proper reasoning behind your vote. You said you voted her on page 1 (which is true) but then the reason I'm voting her could not be yours as she didn't defend you on page 1.

So, I'll take it that it was a RVS vote that turned serious sometime along the way, and I'm interested to know when and why it turned into a serious vote.

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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:40 am

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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:47 am

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Oh no, bye Maki.
In post 310, Almost50 wrote:What's not is someone acting not only as if they're not convinced but rather as of hey were certain that Transcend will flip town.
I'd be interested in knowing how you distinguish between these two things, and having you provide some quotes or something to explain because I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.

The reasoning for voting him is bad. I'm not going to merrily hop on bad wagons because "lol maybe scum", regardless of how scummy
you
think they are. That is not how I play, sorry, I like some actual meat on my cases.
If it was between Transcend and no lynch, or Transcend and one of my townreads, then I'd lynch him in a heartbeat because that's when I compromise on someone who I'm not really scumreading. But it's not, not yet, and there's far better options on the table - which I am pursuing and you seem to be reading as defense of Transcend.

Like I could do the equivalent - why aren't you voting Goedel when he's acting so scummy, or even paying any attention to him at all? This push on me is clearly a chainsaw defense of him, you're trying to draw my attention back to Transcend because you're scum partners with G or you're trying to get towncred because you know he's town etc etc. Does that seem sound to you?

I also notice that your argument has somehow changed from us being partners to me knowing he's town, which would require us to... not be partners.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:48 pm

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Porkens replaces Maki starting now.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:58 pm

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Welcome, Porkens!
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:59 pm

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VOTE: porkens
so...i don't get enough sleep
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:06 pm

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I'm hungry, who's for lunch?
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:07 pm

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In post 320, Keychain wrote:Welcome, Porkens!
Hi Keychain :) Nice to see you!
In post 321, UC Voyager wrote:VOTE: porkens
Vote: UC Voyager
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:11 pm

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In post 323, Porkens wrote:
In post 320, Keychain wrote:Welcome, Porkens!
Hi Keychain :) Nice to see you!
In post 321, UC Voyager wrote:VOTE: porkens
Vote: UC Voyager
VOTE: porkens
why do you bold instead of vote tag?
so...i don't get enough sleep

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