Test your VCA skills

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Ego so remember to do when home

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I dont like vca but the Clue names make this irresistible

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Not going to make an align judgement on slategray but I think I hate them and they shouldn't sign up to games they can't play in

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he's joking my dude

I forgot about this. damn though if I do it now and actually get it right there's no proof it's real or if I looked at the answers, gg

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wait isn't the point of doing anything to brag about it, shit.

how would you feel if I subverted the point of the exercises and did analysis just based on how many posts each player had in each phase

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Spoiler:

Madame Rose (48), The Cook (38), Mrs. White (59)
The Butler (93), Mr. Boddy (39), Captain Brown (28)
Mrs. Peacock (44)
Miss Peach (6)

D1 scum lynch kinda implies bussing? The cook and Mrs White positions being more hop-on and potentially triage in that they felt he'd be lynched anyways
lol brown selfvoting

The cook feels like obvscum IMO. position on the d1 scumlynch, n1 nightkill being mustard who pushed the cook d1
votes azure d2 when scarlet goes through but when azure goes through next day is to be found on sgt grey.
posts to vote ratios very low. Going to make rest of scumteam assumptions based on this being scum so if wrong then everythings fucked.

as for off the d1 wagon miss peach could be scum for sticky votes/parking throughout game and low impact... I guess that would make mrs peacock kinda towny though

Now idk if third would be off as well or bussing. hell it could technically be slategray.

Mr. boddy feels kinda scummy? feels like a scum vote off of the d1 scum vote, seems like brown is low hanging fruit type player also with the selfvote.

?Cook, Peach, Boddy
if wrong then... white I guess?
Damn this is like when you finish a test and you know you didn't do well. Fuck.

is plum a PR kill? I dont get why hed be killed

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Fuck.

Spoiler:

All 3 of them bussed really? I thought if they did that they wouldn't keep killing in the wagon though. If you hard bus someone you don't just kill off the rest of the wagon, that screws you over doesn't it? Damn.

Grumble grumble well at least my first lynch if I was in the game would be right, I guess the rest not so much.

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Spoiler:

IDK, if I 3 man bus someone and the gamestate makes it feel like someone was hardbussed I'm not going to kill everyone else on the wagon and make it so if anyone picks anyone left for bussing they'd be correct. So like the first thing I looked for in the lynch wagon was cook but literally any lynch there would have been right. I guess maybe town in this game didn't pick up on the hard bussing gamestate feel so scum didn't care about killing in the wagon though idk. Yeah I'll concede this scumteam definitely beat me in the VCA sense.

Round 2?

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Spoiler:

cmon how am I supposed to win when I get noobs like capt brown, miss scarlet self hammering and mr slategray on my team?

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theoretically if well done vca is good and semi reliable shouldn't it be decent in most games

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smiths next example is going to be

Spoiler:

scum doesnt bus at all?

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at least we still have good old OMGUS as a 100% reliable scumtell

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Are the townflips all VTs?

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If scum are counting the other scum on a wagon and voting accordingly, that implies an intentional effort to manipulate VCA, and it can be hard enough to do reliably even when it isn't being manipulated by the scum.

Manipulated VCs wouldn't just neutralize VCA but like massively screw over anyone doing the VCA compared to if they were just scumhunting traditionally huh? You have no way of telling manipulated vca apart from actual vca short of mislynching the people and losing the game no?

Oh boy that reminds me of this game people were VCAing the entire game up to and including LYLO even though it was mentioned as a big thing early d1. It's like dude, if you start the game off talking about VCA you think people are going to just ignore it?

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It's number of posts in that phase AFAIK

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Spoiler:

Quick (LYNCH)

- House (34), AwesomeDolphin (123),

Archangel (19

), Csargo (18), Takhitty (34),

philgone (5)

AwesomeDolphin - BATMAN (23),

Quick (101)

,

Alabaster (36)

, TomKat (14),

Fake Passport (16)

gbsfranca - Adrian/Zone (4)

Alabaster

- gbsfranca(13)
Not Voting -

Sagittarius(0)

, Psycho666Soldier(10)
Sagittarius nightkilled

day 2:

Alabaster (LYNCH)

- Takhitty (32), AwesomeDolphin (125), Csargo (44), House (54),

Fake Passport (20)

Fake Passport

- TomKat (11),

philgone (16)

, BATMAN (15),

Archangel (39)

philgone

- Adrian/Zone (70), gbsfranca (27), Psycho666Soldier (12)
BATMAN -

Alabaster (41)

philgone nightkilled

day 3:

Fake Passport (LYNCH)

- BATMAN (23),

Archangel (12)

, Psycho666Soldier (26), TomKat (17), gbsfranca (58), Adrian/Zone (40)
TomKat - AwesomeDolphin (18), House (38), Takhitty (27)
Takhitty - Csargo (42)
Not Voting -

Fake Passport(9)

archangel nightkilled

scum lynch d1 again suggests some level of bussing, however very close dueling wagons decided by town hammer suggests scum counterwagoning as well
why would you kill sagittarius in an all vanilla game...
philgone nk suggests some of the scumreads on him aren't real? idk why kill him though
idk why kill archangel either. slightly suggests scum is in fake passport wagon/ scum wants to keep tomkat wagon to mislynch him if hes town but thats not reliable
WTF are these nightkills.

Speculation: scum either bussed quick or joined the counterwagon, but did not sit around doing nothing while there were intense dueling wagons
result from there would be Adrian/zone, gbsfranca, and psych666soldier prob town
but phil nightkill suggests at least one of these scumreads isn't real?

tomkat feels like scum in any case. in general.

Alternate theory: Quick and awesomedolphin were dueling scum wagons?

Scum 1: probably tomkat
Scum 2: bus vote, either csargo (bad association with tomkat) or awesomedolphin (why is he still alive after winning a duel with scum and posting this much?)
that doesn't explain the philgone nightkill but idk how to sort between those 3 low impact lurkish players who don't do much, they're all kinda the same

err. any in that pool 3 id probably focus on.

Welp this could be entirely wrong fuck

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Spoiler:

lol all 3 as town

well, it's a good thing I don't use vca much

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Spoiler:

so I guess the "tells/suggestions" were there and noticed but just took the wrong conclusions from them
scum lynch d1 again suggests some level of bussing - correct

Speculation: scum either bussed quick or joined the counterwagon, but did not sit around doing nothing while there were intense dueling wagons
result from there would be

Adrian/zone, gbsfranca, and psych666soldier prob town

- correct

idk why kill archangel either. slightly suggests scum is in fake passport wagon/

scum wants to keep tomkat wagon to mislynch him

if hes town but thats not reliable - this was a good conclusion after all

but phil nightkill suggests at least one of these scumreads isn't real? - not correct, but nightkills in general were obviously borked

WTF are these nightkills. - should have thought harder at this. would still potentially have pointed me down the wrong road with awesomedolphin, but house and takhitty getting towncred from bus and making the weird kills as a result wouldve also made sense

This is kinda a hard one though. I guess I'd speculate the reason scum didn't kill awesomedolphin was wifom, but i wasnt expecting logical kills after seeing the n1 kill as more of a crazy move than a tactical move to maintain the status quo

Well that was interesting.