Mini 1960: League of Legends U-Pick - Minions Have Spawned!

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

Uhh bullshit this is the first page and you have that sure of a read on me?

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

Uhh bullshit this is the first page and you have that sure of a read on me?

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

Blatant omgus much?

I can have as sure of a read on you as I want you are being scummy whether it's the first page or not

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

Uhh bullshit this is the first page and you have that sure of a read on me?

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

Blatant omgus much?

I can have as sure of a read on you as I want you are being scummy whether it's the first page or not

You don't even know who I am how would you as town have a confident scumread on me this early?

The read feels made up and I think that you're scum trying to look like you're being useful by having reads early

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

Uhh bullshit this is the first page and you have that sure of a read on me?

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

Blatant omgus much?

I can have as sure of a read on you as I want you are being scummy whether it's the first page or not

You don't even know who I am how would you as town have a confident scumread on me this early?

The read feels made up and I think that you're scum trying to look like you're being useful by having reads early

Yeah I agree with AAA this is too early in the game to have an actual scumread but I don't think that AAA is necessarily scum, might just be trying to get us out of RVS?

I mean I'll vote here since I guess it's >rand scum but I don't feel as sure as you do that the read is outright made up.

Either way, VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

N0 Guilty.

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I don't think that they're town this game.

Uhh bullshit this is the first page and you have that sure of a read on me?

VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

Blatant omgus much?

I can have as sure of a read on you as I want you are being scummy whether it's the first page or not

You don't even know who I am how would you as town have a confident scumread on me this early?

The read feels made up and I think that you're scum trying to look like you're being useful by having reads early

Yeah I agree with AAA this is too early in the game to have an actual scumread but I don't think that AAA is necessarily scum, might just be trying to get us out of RVS?

I mean I'll vote here since I guess it's >rand scum but I don't feel as sure as you do that the read is outright made up.

Either way, VOTE: An Anonymous Alt

I mean given that I'm not the only person who has that read I don't think it's at all unreasonable for me to think that AAA's scum.
You're saying that I'm just trying to propel the game forward but I sincerely think that they're flipping scum and I don't think that's an unreasonable viewpoint.
The turn on me this early in the game for voting me felt like a scummy overreaction as well.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Monaca-Chan please protect me Dunnstral-Kun is bullying me

[An Anonymous Alt]

/me kisses back

<3

[An Anonymous Alt]

I will recall before I go to bed tonight by the way.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Wait why am I useless that's upsetting

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: dunnstral

Non-rvs vote. Could also see Panzer being scum but this was worse imo

[An Anonymous Alt]

Also not at all a fan of Monaca telegraphing intent to hammer but given the player I think that it's NAI

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: Panzerjager

Okay speaking of policy lynches this I'd definitely one.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm aware he was banned for nine months but how he's playing is absolutely absurd and if this is really how he plays I can't say I'd miss him.

[An Anonymous Alt]

In addition, if I find you sufficiently insufferable, I couldn't really care less whether you're an alt or not. I'd prefer you out of the game rather than in it.

then sub out no one is forcing you to be here

If you're legitimately pushing policy lynches on D1 you shouldnt be playing this game.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm on him because he's threatening to play against win condition because apparently half the game annoys him that much. I think he's scum but if he's legitimately doing what he is as town then he needs to die anyways.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I don't think Panzer is doing anything that Titus can intervene on.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Also Monaca is very probably scum regardless of PJ alignment

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: Monaca Towa

[An Anonymous Alt]

I would believe it given that she was Sona when this was last modded by RadiantCowbells and had similar restrictions placed on her play based on being mute.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Kise is one scum

[An Anonymous Alt]

His Poe includes me and excludes everyone I'm scumreading

[An Anonymous Alt]

Dunn stop defending your scumbuddy please.

Yes it does given that his reads are bullshit. I'm not locked in Maki but she's more scum than town ATM and Dunn is scum like 85% of the time and there's no way someone honestly townreads that much of the playerlist and still thinks I'm scum.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm pretty confident Kise is just looking for easy mislynches and underestimated me so selected me.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Dunn stop defending your scumbuddy please.

Which one, Kise or Maki?

Kise for sure, Maki might be scum as well if Monaca is town

[An Anonymous Alt]

Your list is randomidget who is sxumread, me who was getting flak for an RVs joke, and the two people with the weakest content and I don't think you're a bronze six player who hits on all the easy scumreads and avoids actually having a stance on the relevant players

[An Anonymous Alt]

VOTE: kise

Im using my vig on him if he's not lynched and I strongly recommend others do the same.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Not sure why you're claiming?

Because unless he's a support or adc I can't kill him alone?

[An Anonymous Alt]

Your list is randomidget who is sxumread, me who was getting flak for an RVs joke, and the two people with the weakest content and I don't think you're a bronze six player who hits on all the easy scumreads and avoids actually having a stance on the relevant players

Your rvs was too try hard. I'm not one to suggest policy lynching but it stuck out to me. You try too hard to be the cool kid but your shades are broken

Speaking of broken, by all means vig me. See what happens to your monkey behind.

Nice pgo claim D1 because getting investigated is never fun to also molten shield doesn't become a bomb me till rank 3 so I fucking guarantee that if you're a pgo it's a scum role.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Lynch kise please thanks.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Because everyone else reads town

You aren't supposed to tell us you know everyone's scum you know.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Nah I was joking I'm not pgo

Feel free to target me asap

Solid backtrack when your scum motivated claim becomes untenable also ive seen your era scum play the same scum game hundreds of times learn to do something new yeah?

[An Anonymous Alt]

My actions night targeted and I don't expect you to live to be on the receiving end of it. Shit scumread someone else next time.

[An Anonymous Alt]

shield AAA

I GOT CHU TOO

Kiss me again.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Okay Monaca is town because she doesn't use that much tongue as scum

[An Anonymous Alt]

My first pick was fountain Laser but it was rudely denied.

[An Anonymous Alt]

My first pick was fountain Laser but it was rudely denied.

THATS BECAUSE I GOT TO BE FOINTAIN JAJAJAJA

DID YOU TARGTE ME???

My action is not a day action and I don't see the point in targeting into potential scum PGO.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Your dinner is important to us.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm slow to want to townread LLD early but I feel like if she were scum she would want to have more of a presence in the game.
She's highly likely to eat a bullet for her current playstyle and is confirmed to have one health (I believe the sona claim) so I feel like if she were scum she would be trying harder to be town.

Kise jumping everyone he saw as easy targets while townreading all the players with the most influence is textbook that-era scum and the reads themselves don't make sense. He also hasn't done any actual scumhunting: his claimed reason for scumreading me is that I voted panzer which is crap, the rest of his scumreads are low activity people, and he's somehow townreading every single other active player when a lot of them are scummy as fuck. I do not believe that he comes to a set of reads that scumreads all the people that he saw as easy lynches. I'm also heavily townreading Kokichi and them being on the list is super weird, and just generally there's nothing behind anything they've done. They called the entire playerlist town without giving reasons besides that 'Nag feels town' and 'Maki is town-minded' and the rest of their content has been entirely not game related. They claimed modified PGO when I said that I was vigging them to deter the vig when based on their claimed scumread on my slot and their claimed role mechanics they should have wanted to encourage me to target them, not vice versa, and it reads to me as scum deterring targeted abilities.

They should be the lynch today in any universe and I don't understand how people are townreading this slot atm.

[An Anonymous Alt]

{Nagito}
{Kokichi, LLD}
{Panzer} I guess is unlikely to be scum even though he's obnoxious as hell.
-Null line-
{Monaca, Dunnstral}
{Kise}

I also want to point out that Kise PoE excluded Yume despite her only having two posts where she called Monaca Nebby.
It was RC's, they were town and had to give someone else their vote.

[An Anonymous Alt]

If Kise were town he'd actually have people voting for him right now

[An Anonymous Alt]

Randomidget is almost certainly town by the way scum are powerwagoning Randomidget to distract from Kise.

I've made several cases on Kise and the most that anyone has said about Randomidget is that they're lurking and that's a shit reason to scumread someone. Town lurk too and Randomidget is a naturally scummy player who is if anything kind of towny this game. Not a single person in this game has responded to anything I've said about Kise and it feels like scum are pushing the game onto easy lynches and town isn't putting effort in so they sheep.

I'll compromise on Dunnstral if I have to but Kise is scum and if town was actually trying this game he would be the lynch today 100% of the time. I have yet to see an explanation for RI scum.

[An Anonymous Alt]

{Nagito}
{Kokichi, LLD}
{Panzer} I guess is unlikely to be scum even though he's obnoxious as hell.
-Null line-
{Monaca, Dunnstral}
{Kise}

How did you go from this to then saying LLD & Maki as scum wagoning random?

Monaca just voted Random, you've been expressing support for the wagon since earlier in the day, Dunn was defending you earlier today, Maki had a vote down and no mentions of your name.
You can twist my words all you want but you're still getting lynched today.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Worth noting that I am less comfortable about my scumread on Monaca since I thought that he might be jester based on his play at the time so I'd buy him intentionally being scummy.

[An Anonymous Alt]

She/her, my apologies.

[An Anonymous Alt]

No one accused them of it but given no other reason has been given for the wagon I'm assuming that's why people are voting them.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Either that you didn't feel the need to put her in your scum block or you respected her enough to not take that risk given that her town play this year has been stellar when she actually shows up to bat.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up cult of personality here given it's irrelevance to the game. I don't think you're not being wagoned because you played super well, I think town has just not considered you because you've actually done stuff.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Maria/Dunn have visible connections and you would expect them to defend each other if unjustly wagoned. Nagito was widely townread and has connections. Panzer would throw a huge scene if he was wagoned. LLD's, well, LLD. Leon is known for being a strong town player.
Contrast that with myself, who had been voted a lot for an RVS joke and was not in popular esteem with the thread, Randomidget who is lurking and not particularly well connected, and two alts who don't have super strong ties nor have done much.

If you push a mislynch on anyone in that group there's going to be flak suffered for it. You push a mislynch on me who people wanted to PL, the absentee lurker alts, or Randomidget who isn't a strong player, less consequence paid in terms of your standing.

I don't believe that you as town picked out the four safest pushes in the game to scumread but I do believe that you as scum thought through who you could safely scumread and came to this conclusion.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I don't think that you would have excluded Yume from your scumpool if you were scumbuddies if that's what you were asking. I don't see that as likely to be SvS.

[An Anonymous Alt]

It's not based on anything out of game it's solely based on the information you have in this game. Yume perhaps not but maybe you missed her, Nagito and Leon already had strong standing on entrance, Maki & Dunn well.

I don't think that you needed a vast amount of experience from other games with them to put together the pieces of who were safe pushes since all the necessary information was in this game.

[An Anonymous Alt]

apathy wagonned wooh
nagito probably isn't happening so
VOTE: kise
going for easy reads and not fake engaging their reads without actually answering people

i mean lol

Even if I knew who all is "easy reads", why does that make yall exempt for being sr?

Oh I'm not a safe read at all and I would sincerely hope that you've learned a lesson about scumreading me because you think a poorly received opener makes me an easy lynch.
I also disbelieve that I would be scumread at all here, but that's something that I could get past if you weren't objectively obvious scum.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Nagito and Ali were both highly active in thread and that says that you probably went off of the other two being safe lynches due to low content rather than just perceived isolation.
If you're not going off of people who are liable to have defenders then that probably suggests that one of Maki/Dunnstral is scum but I would have said that either way.

[An Anonymous Alt]

And that's if I take everything that you say at face value because I sincerely doubt with the way you negotiated the game that you have as little knowledge of the players in it as you claim to.

Even the cult of personality comment screams you having information that you shouldn't.

[An Anonymous Alt]

is being wagoned for lurking (said no one)

No one gave a reason for the wagon so I'm assuming it's lurking! I await a case on Randomidget that isn't 'oh everyone else is town on Day 1.'

claiming I know intricate player relationships that influence me to target players without much backup (I haven't played with a lot of you...have you played with me that much/at all before Maki/Dunn/Nagi/Himiko/Ali//Kokichi/Leon/Yume/random?)

It's not hard to see that Maria is talking about Dunn knowing her role or to know that going after LLD is dangerous or that Alisae and Nagito were townread. I said that was one aspect of your reads being easy scumreads and even totally excluding that you still went after all the people in the game who were easy wagons. You don't need to know anyone in the game either since your scumbuddies obviously do.

And if you've never played with any of us and that's the extent of your information on the players in the game... what's with the cult of personality comment?

and continually insinuating Himiko & Kokichi are bigger scumreads than him and random (in my 2nd post, I literally say scum is between Himiko & Kokichi, meaning I'm LESS SURE of them than I am of AAA and random)

I literally never did this.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Except "everyone else is town D1" can actually be true/works

Are you saying that there's no way a randomized scumteam could be all people perceived as easy targets? I'm not going for some trophy by hunting "harder targets" and my history(as any alignment) proves I go after "da big dogs" D1 IF I suspect them

Oh so did your teammates already tell you who I was when you scumread me?

[An Anonymous Alt]

None of that crap matters though. You throw out theories because your best trick against me is to cast illusion instead of pointing out any facts about what I've said. I hope no one has been swayed by your fake truths

This comes from scum 100% of the time btw

[An Anonymous Alt]

I mean I could but that's not required to lynch you and it's generally not how I play mafia.

[An Anonymous Alt]

1) Sure, the scumteam could all be LHF/easy targets. Does that make it any less sketchy that everyone you're going after in the early game is an easy target? No,i t doesn't.
It's something that I see a lot from newer players but I'd expect with your

experience

that you would be at least paranoid of the stronger players in the game. I think even if scum were all weaker players you'd be concerned about more of the stronger players.
I flagrantly don't buy you having a hard townread on slots like Maki or Dunnstral either given their play so far in this game.

2) You're zeroing in on one aspect of the definition of easy target and ignoring the rest. I think that even if you genuinely believed that all the danganropa people knew each other that you would see those two as relatively easy targets. Most of what you're going off of has been stuff exclusive to this game: Randomidget having a weak start, me antagonizing people with my opener, the other two being lurky and just not specifically towny. Everything else is just ice cream on top of the warm delicious brownie. Perhaps I'm reading more into your play than actually exists but that's just because I see scum play differently than you do.

3) I think that playing with facts and argumentation is an extremely inefficient and basically wrong way to play mafia. If I can get you lynched via quips and other means rather than bogging the game down in a lengthy analysis of everything that you'e done I would prefer to do that. Furthermore you talk about facts but I have brought lots of facts to the table about why I'm scumreading you given your set of reads and your PGO claim and pointed to scummy posts whereas you've basically just said Randomidget is scum because everyone else is town without providing facts abut everyone else and are calling me scum largely for defending him without any facts about why that's something that I would want to do. If anything, I'm the one playing the rigorous point case analysis mode of mafia.

It's not about successfully lynching me. It's about proving you aren't full of shit. You have the option to prove yourself here and now (before I flip)

I don't particularly care if anyone thinks that I'm full of shit as long as scum are dying, but I've answered your posts regardless.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm at a party and I don't have time to post please just lynch Kise he's flipping scum.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Dunn/Kise/+1

Please lynch Dunn tomorrow if I'm dead he hasn't even given a read on kise but is hard pushing every single counterwagon

[An Anonymous Alt]

Dunn is the only flashwagon I'd accept.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm the obligatory scum nightkill you'll have forever to push whatever lynches you guys want just lets lynch scum today.

[An Anonymous Alt]

We're traveling between venues

[An Anonymous Alt]

If your team would just bus you or not hard defend you I wouldn't have to work so hard at this.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Unless Maki is bussing you which she might very well be

K

[An Anonymous Alt]

If randomidget is scum that doesn't make kise town.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Who if anyone reviewed this game @Titus

[An Anonymous Alt]

I shot Dunn because I thought Kise might actually be some flavour of pgo

Doubt the himiko shot came from town

[An Anonymous Alt]

Slow the fuck down

Maki is probably scum but we lynch Kise today

[An Anonymous Alt]

My q also gives me an extra ability when it kills people so I believe that portion of the claim. That said I don't put scum fakeclaiming a guilty in LyLo past most players in the lobby, particularly Monaca and LLD.

[An Anonymous Alt]

some sick gambit that you got a guilty on me with a lvl 1 skill haha yup

This feels like a scum reaction honestly.

Not no I'm town but instead lol you can't guilty me at level 1

[An Anonymous Alt]

Monacas justification for the torque shot feels like scumisae

[An Anonymous Alt]

AAA Annie: experience granting damage.
Maki ???: Forces someone to Target someone.
Kimichi: assuming no one lied about actions, Ahri with Dunn kill.
Monaca Towa: assuming that's a gnar claim, killed himiko
Panzerjager: claiming jinx with result on Maki
LLD: Sona ???
Kise: Fountain laser turned Nautilus damages/hatedizes
Leon: ??? Tracked or scumbuddies with Alisae

[An Anonymous Alt]

some sick gambit that you got a guilty on me with a lvl 1 skill haha yup

This feels like a scum reaction honestly.

Not no I'm town but instead lol you can't guilty me at level 1

vote me then bucko you think I give a single fuck about a bliz game that's at lylo after 1 day? LOL

I still want to win this and I think that if you're town I will end up seeing it. Who do you think the scum are?

[An Anonymous Alt]

If Kikichi is not claiming Ahri then either he's lying or someone lied about one of their other claims.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Monaca is my most confident Sr despite her wet tonguey kisses.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Could see it as a reaction to a scumbuddies cop claim as well.

Don't think it's ever town nor is the claimed action.

[An Anonymous Alt]

No Monaca reaction was definitely after.

How would you feel about lynching Monaca then I kill you at night and if you're town we lynch panzer tomorrow?

[An Anonymous Alt]

If I kill you I get rank 3 e and become immune to turret shots and do twice the damage to anyone who attacks me than they do to me. If LLD is town or whatever supports are left spam heal me I can get q to 2 damage tomorrow and basically win the game by force.

@Maki arguably yes. I think I could single handedly wipe out everyone else in the game from here if I do t get roleblocked and im hoping someone can give me immunity

[An Anonymous Alt]

Do you passively get two shield a turn, immunity to turrets, and return 2 damage for every one damage you take? Yeah didn't think so bitch.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Annie is love Annie is life.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I still want to safety Lynch Monaca but its objectively a shit play

[An Anonymous Alt]

Monaca if you're town you're voting whoever I tell you to next game

[An Anonymous Alt]

Do you passively get two shield a turn, immunity to turrets, and return 2 damage for every one damage you take? Yeah didn't think so bitch.

That's anime passive? Jesus xst

That's rank 3 molten shield my passive is that I stun people with some of my abilities

[An Anonymous Alt]

Monaca if you're town you're voting whoever I tell you to next game

Ok do you townread me now or?...

I wouldn't care if I did with how bad your claimed reads are

[An Anonymous Alt]

If Panzers scum it's not with Leon and I'm sorta obvtown

[An Anonymous Alt]

You also wagoned random who was pretty clearly town over kise who is still probably scum so for you to be town means you've played proscum at every juncture of the game.

[An Anonymous Alt]

No complaints about the vote itself but why are you willing to follow my read on Monaca when I'm your top scumread Kise?

[An Anonymous Alt]

It occurs to me that there's a non zero chance Maki let Panzer guilty her as his scumpartner.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Maki was weirdly noncombatative when Panzer started pushing on her day 1. She looked for a reason to townread him then didn't really fight back besides to call him bad. Even now she's not really struggling. And the way she's treating Monaca is weird unless she's trying to falsely associate them. Like if she was town who got guiltied by scum she would be fucking pissed. She would definitely fight more than this. If she was scum who got guiltied by town then I guess she has teammates but I'd still expect more than this. But it actually makes sense with Panzers weird deathtunnel on her and hoe little she actually fought back and just tonally the way she talks to and about him is weirdly, like, passive? And I can totally see this being a play that either of them would make.

[An Anonymous Alt]

Like she would have known the level two stuff was scummy I think but if she was trying to make sure Panzer got her lynched successfully, then Panzer is trying to get everyone to make excuses for why he didn't die by mass protecting him.

I mean it's a shit play under the circumstances but it makes more sense than anything else. And third could be like Kise but also pretty much anyone else

[An Anonymous Alt]

Kimichi what is your character

[An Anonymous Alt]

interesting

[An Anonymous Alt]

Panzer you're up

[An Anonymous Alt]

That was not the most difficult game I've ever played.

[An Anonymous Alt]

I'm assuming my identity was super obvious to most?

[An Anonymous Alt]

Nooooooooo

I was basically Informed that Gnar flavor is scum and Nautilus flavor is town, and that I would join the side of whichever one died first. Once I found out that Ali was Gnar, I was trying to get him lynched, but I thought that his reaction meant Maki was also scum, and I couldn't think of a way to swing the lynch on Ali.

I was trying to bus Alisae to help you

[An Anonymous Alt]

Yeah it was obviously fake

damn we should have gone through with hardbussing Alisae D1