Mini 1939 - Organization XIII (Game Over)

[nancy]

I'm actually a little surprised that my game-long tunnel wasn't wrong and Demyx somehow misread mastina.

[nancy]

Cabd you weren't Axel!?!?

[nancy]

Anyway I really need to apologize for my play this game and also for replacing out. I've already explained to Heartless privately and people who know me know at least most of what caused it but that doesn't excuse it and I'm sorry for being as shit as I was.

[nancy]

Cabd you weren't Axel!?!?

Nope. I wasn't in that alt, nor do I know who it was.

I was kidding

[nancy]

One player I absolutely didn't even try to guess was someone I've played with a lot. Marluxia did a great job of obfuscating, I think.

I tried altering my posting style for like the first bit of day one but then I hated how argumentative and hostile I was so I stopped lol.

[nancy]

Cabd you weren't Axel!?!?

Nope. I wasn't in that alt, nor do I know who it was.

I was kidding

Ah. I only started following halfway. Around early day two.

It was actually perplexing, the old Axel was so icky then the replacement came in and it was exactly the same it was like the slot was cursed.

[nancy]

Yeah, Luxord 3 was fun too after we got over the Fire hump

[nancy]

Also still a little confused as to how Roxas got lynched at the end? Silent voter?

[nancy]

lol Ceph was in this game?

[nancy]

Oh, right.

Heartless said they were releasing the actions/mains in a bit.

[nancy]

I kind of thought Xemnas 1 was Leonshade at first because of reasons but their play didn't match up to that. I feel like they should've been in the game but I didn't really recognize them in anyone although I wasn't looking that hard.

Saix was obviously keyen, Roxas was obviously mastina, Demyx 1 was JR, Demyx 2 was ???, Demyx 2 was Firebringer, Xaldin was MaxwellPuckett, all the Luxords and Larxene and Axel's I have no idea, Lexaeus altslipped but I wouldn't have guessed. I don't understand the point of playing specifically so that people wouldn't guess you if you that would mean that you couldn't even really post at all but vov, I don't know who Marluxia is so maybe it'd make more sense if I knew.

pedit lol

[nancy]

Hi Porkens

Nice to meet you haha

[nancy]

Wait what, how was that not keyen, was he imitiating keyen or something?

[nancy]

lolalts

[nancy]

No wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[nancy]

Jk I already knew it was ffery

[nancy]

I'm curious about your thought process wrt the rolecop because that really made my role obviously town-aligned after Vexen's flip.

[nancy]

Yeah it was. I don't know why RC backed off that tbh.

What was the original concept?

[nancy]

wtf how did I not spot Maria

[nancy]

I mean, I let mastina get away with everything because JR said she was town lol

[nancy]

Xaldin was MaxwellPuckett

Couldn't be more off xD Granted though I played nothing like I normally play.

LOL

You were my first pick but then you continued to be lurkier than a motherfucker THE WHOLE GAME so I was like, okay that's Max levels of lurking I don't think it's Shiro anymore. But when I was saying I had you guessed 100%, it was as Shiro

[nancy]

Funny story, my first guess before I had you as Xaldin, I thought you were Xigbar

It only lasted like five pages but lol

[nancy]

hi jingle i've never heard of you before lol apparently you're good at scum? i thought you were thor because of all that notthor stuff lmao

[nancy]

Antihero not to be an ass but we had issues before with me and mastina in a game so not sure why you didn’t think of that before I replaced in, maybe you forgot or thought I wouldn’t notice.

FWIW I can't speak for anti or tth, but if I was running a secret alt game then unless someone volunteering to replace told me explicitly that the offer was conditional on specific people not being in a game, I wouldn't care about who was in or out. Similar deal for anyone /inning in the first place; it's not my job as a mod to enforce peoples' personal blacklists, and the most I'd even consider bothering to do on that end is to respect things that were explicitly brought to my attention.

otoh it's mastina the player who mastinaclaims in every single post

[nancy]

now i'm more glad i convinced you to stay in the game gorxord

[nancy]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat THAT WAS NACHO!?!?!?!?!

[nancy]

Omfg.

[nancy]

It does make sense yeah he's just the last person I expected to be a player in this game.

[nancy]

Also I'm humiliated that he witnessed yet another emotional avalanche and replace out from me.

[nancy]

cheet you forgot to include cheet

how are you finding acclimatizing yourself back to mafia jingle? can talk with you about why i scumread you if you want feedback or anything over pms. do you prefer scum?

[nancy]

Summary of my PT with Axel:

Zexion: Hi how do you feel about my post-restriction
Axel: Don't worry I'm not going to vote you anymore
Zexion: Wut
...
Zexion: Can you pass on some messages for me? PS I'm a Neighborizing Delayed Cop
Axel: Why did you say I was misrepping!?
Zexion: cuz u were but dw it doesn't mean ur scum
Axel: You're nuts
Zexion: Okay I think you're town

[nancy]

Zexion, I honestly might be able to beat in a fight. But Zexion is nancy. I.e., my girlfriend. That's not a fight I ever really WANT to win. And it's a big "if" RE: beating her in a fight. To beat her in a fight, I'd have to also be beating RadiantCowbells. And while Xigbar-Zexion is a mutual scumread for the whole game fight, they are ALSO smart enough players to recognize if both are alive in lylo, it's because they've been in a game-long TvT. In short, while the theory behind it may be solid, the practice is that I'll basically lose this 10/10 times especially if it's 4p mylo rather than 3p lylo. (The fourth name would be likely to point out the TvT.)

Spoiler: i guess all that work i did paid off

I feel like you should know better than to think that I would be scum here. I don't want to fight you. I feel like you should know that I don't want to fight you. I don't think that I'm forced to fight you here: my position is absolutely fine and while I don't have a 100% chance of getting the lynch that I want through I was in absoultely fine standing. Conversely, with my 100% read claim I'm either bussing, in which case you can lynch with me and question why I wasn't nightkilled later, or I'm about to lynch town while claiming that and be instantly torn apart given -reasons-. Why would I not take this opportunity to make a point about how much better my way (ie bussing) is than your hard defending stance? Why would Axel be worth hard pushing a mislynch to keep alive? I do hard defend in games, occasionally, with players like _________ who are worth it or __________ where I had literally no other options. But this isn't one of those games. And frankly you know better than this: every time I've rolled scum in a game with you I've put you in my townpile and attempted to pocket you. That isn't some magical coincidence and it isn't an aspect of meta that I would change for strategic gain, I do it because it is the strategic gain. I have had a really fucking strong showing in terms of pocketing my friends in general this year and it both makes the game far more enjoyable to cozy up to you and gives me far more control over the game when I have influence over you. Say this is all part of a long protracted play to manipulate you, sure, but I think that you know better than that and with Axel refusing to vote Xaldin despite calling him scum and him trying to push the vote on you I would think that if you were town your conclusion would be that we're both pushing scum rather than that I'm scum hard defending Axel here, and I don't think that I'm wrong.

THIS IS ALL TRUE BUT I'M TRYING TO TUNNEL YOU TO KEEP YOU ALIVE SO

Like fuck why does he have to go and be so genuine in thread and people townreading him and shit it's not helpful at all

I really just... don't know how to signal to Xigbar here at all that I'm pushing him to try to keep the nightkill off him. The best ways I can think of doing it would involve citing meta and I obviously can't do that. I don't know how to speak to him in code in a way that he'll understand and no one else will; I keep feeling like I don't have the heart to keep pushing him because I'm afraid it's making the game unenjoyable for him but I can't give up at this point trying to make it happen otherwise it would've all been pointless and he'll definitely die.

ARG

What to do

Wow I was like this close to just giving up and apologizing to Xigbar and telling him that I townread him, I even had it typed out and in preview and I changed it at the last second.