Open 700: Donner Party - ENDGAME

[northsidegal]

My pool is North you and NotMafia and assemble. However the latter two baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely have their fingers in and that's because they haven't done jack and could be scum lurking but again that's in so poor taste I only want to go there if I townread literally every other player.

why do you clear godel and pmyst? why do you scumread porkens?

[northsidegal]

u r right.

But I'd like both of you to stop arguing with each other and give reads on other players.

I am not joking. I am the vig. Believe it.

i think pmysterious is scummy. as for other reads i'd have to think more to reconcile the possible teams of mafia/sk with the nightkills.

who did you shoot, and what were they? from what you said before i'm assuming you shot a50.

[MathBlade]

My pool is North you and NotMafia and assemble. However the latter two baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely have their fingers in and that's because they haven't done jack and could be scum lurking but again that's in so poor taste I only want to go there if I townread literally every other player.

why do you clear godel and pmyst? why do you scumread porkens?

I don't clear them perse I just suspect both you and porkens more. I don't "clear" anyone.

I scumread porkens because porkens play is hella weird and because his pool is terribad. He is asking you questions and not following up.

Pedit: Porkens I don't believe you. Who are you claiming to shoot and why?

[Porkens]

Neither of you are reading the game.

[MathBlade]

Oh no..I read your joke posts at the start of the game. I believe you're trying to attract an NK or an evil cannibal not the town vig.

[MathBlade]

And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.

I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.

[northsidegal]

My pool is North you and NotMafia and assemble. However the latter two baaaaaaaaaaaaaarely have their fingers in and that's because they haven't done jack and could be scum lurking but again that's in so poor taste I only want to go there if I townread literally every other player.

why do you clear godel and pmyst? why do you scumread porkens?

I don't clear them perse I just suspect both you and porkens more. I don't "clear" anyone.

I scumread porkens because porkens play is hella weird and because his pool is terribad. He is asking you questions and not following up.

Pedit: Porkens I don't believe you. Who are you claiming to shoot and why?

first point is nai as far as i can tell, porkens always plays a little unorthodox. could you give an example on the second point?

regarding the "clearing", i guess what i'm asking is why do you seemingly townread pmysterious and godel?

Neither of you are reading the game.

right, can't believe i missed that.

[northsidegal]

And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.

I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.

consider how you're scumreading the more active people and certainly the only people who have been active today. don't you think it's likely you're making large conclusions just based on what you've seen rather than the entire gamestate?

[Porkens]

A winner is you!

VOTE: mathblade

In that crazy fountain game, math, I replaced in and town read you so fucking hard that when you flipped scum, I KNEW your flip had been tampered with.

This game, not at all.

[Porkens]

And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.

I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.

consider how you're scumreading the more active people and certainly the only people who have been active today. don't you think it's likely you're making large conclusions just based on what you've seen rather than the entire gamestate?

Wrecked.

[MathBlade]

And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.

I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.

consider how you're scumreading the more active people and certainly the only people who have been active today. don't you think it's likely you're making large conclusions just based on what you've seen rather than the entire gamestate?

Oh you're trying to imply it's only based on what I have seen. I guarantee you I have read this thread and am entirely caught up and it's on all of it. Getting your question in a sec.

[MathBlade]

A winner is you!

VOTE: mathblade

In that crazy fountain game, math, I replaced in and town read you so fucking hard that when you flipped scum, I KNEW your flip had been tampered with.

This game, not at all.

A) I didn't flip ANYTHING I was janitored.
B) You aren't townreading me because I scumread you.
C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.
D) Knowing what someone's alignment was makes it infinitely easier to put this puzzle together. And if you're ever wrong on an alignment you become policy.

So who'd you kill? Why? And what were they?

[northsidegal]

so here are my stream of consciousness thoughts about the nightkills, taking into account the new information. among keychain and a50, one was the mafia shot and one was the serial killer shot. i just can't see any serial killer motivation for killing a50, whereas if i consider the scenario where the sk killed keychain, godel's name jumps into my mind immediately. that slot just moved a lot more down the list for me. then, if we're to take it that the sk shot keychain, mafia shot a50. i'm not entirely sure why this would happen so it casts doubt in my mind if this is the case. possibilities for who as mafia would want a50 dead would be a mafia keychain and... can't really think of anyone else. i'll definitely have to think about this a bit more.

this is all assuming, of course, that porkens is telling the truth.

[northsidegal]

And if you are the town vig you'd answer the questions north and I asked.

I'm quite wondering if this game is just solved and it's north and porkens. North being group scum with key and porkens being the SK and almost 50 and key is in porkens belly and north has transcends remains.

consider how you're scumreading the more active people and certainly the only people who have been active today. don't you think it's likely you're making large conclusions just based on what you've seen rather than the entire gamestate?

Oh you're trying to imply it's only based on what I have seen. I guarantee you I have read this thread and am entirely caught up and it's on all of it. Getting your question in a sec.

not necessarily, i'm just saying you're basing your reads entirely on the people that you yourself have interacted with.

A winner is you!

VOTE: mathblade

In that crazy fountain game, math, I replaced in and town read you so fucking hard that when you flipped scum, I KNEW your flip had been tampered with.

This game, not at all.

A) I didn't flip ANYTHING I was janitored.
B) You aren't townreading me because I scumread you.
C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.
D) Knowing what someone's alignment was makes it infinitely easier to put this puzzle together. And if you're ever wrong on an alignment you become policy.

So who'd you kill? Why? And what were they?

porkens has said who she killed. i thought you said you read the thread?

[MathBlade]

I ate transcend cause I thought he was crummy and irritatingly non contributor. He was vanilla. Still delicious.

Again...This was a joke.

I'm waiting for porkens to tell the truth. Because I don't believe porkens.

And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.

[northsidegal]

C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.

wait, what are you trying to say here? you've said that you scumread porkens for the odd play, but aren't you saying here yourself that it makes sense for porkens to act so unorthox about being the vig? all of the baiting makes a lot more sense now. if scum don't believe porkens, she should be able to stay alive longer. also, you have to forgive me if i don't really understand how your reasoning supports your assertion. the two things seem pretty unrelated, to me. like, that reasoning would actually support porkens lying about her info, because then it'd be like hypoclaiming - scum would think porkens is lying if she said she shot the person that scum actually shot (given that we know there were three separate kills).

[MathBlade]

so here are my stream of consciousness thoughts about the nightkills, taking into account the new information. among keychain and a50, one was the mafia shot and one was the serial killer shot. i just can't see any serial killer motivation for killing a50, whereas if i consider the scenario where the sk killed keychain, godel's name jumps into my mind immediately. that slot just moved a lot more down the list for me. then, if we're to take it that the sk shot keychain, mafia shot a50. i'm not entirely sure why this would happen so it casts doubt in my mind if this is the case. possibilities for who as mafia would want a50 dead would be a mafia keychain and... can't really think of anyone else. i'll definitely have to think about this a bit more.

this is all assuming, of course, that porkens is telling the truth.

LOL This is a crock. No decent SK/scum ever shoots keychain.

Keychain was primed and ready for pressure by multiple players.

[northsidegal]

And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.

why wouldn't scum porkens also just eat you?

[MathBlade]

C) If you were the town vig you'd actually give TOWN the info here of who you killed and their alignment.
Reason being if scum believe you and you're the vig you're dead
and if scum don't believe you then you get more time to operate and shoot scum.

wait, what are you trying to say here? you've said that you scumread porkens for the odd play, but aren't you saying here yourself that it makes sense for porkens to act so unorthox about being the vig? all of the baiting makes a lot more sense now. if scum don't believe porkens, she should be able to stay alive longer. also, you have to forgive me if i don't really understand how your reasoning supports your assertion. the two things seem pretty unrelated, to me. like, that reasoning would actually support porkens lying about her info, because then it'd be like hypoclaiming - scum would think porkens is lying if she said she shot the person that scum actually shot (given that we know there were three separate kills).

Yes I do scumread porkens for the odd play.
I'm not saying anything about making sense to be unorthodox.
I'm asking porkens to be orthodox.

At this point if porkens is the vig he's outed. That means to give as much info as possible because if scum believe porkens porkens is dead.
So the simple answer is to be upfront and honest about who porkens shot and why.

There's literally nothing I can find in porkens iso that supports shooting transcend.

However ironically enough I do believe porkens shot transcend if they were telling the truth just they aren't the town vig IMHO.

[Porkens]

I swear to god you flipped scum in that game. I have a vivid memory of it. But it's not there now, so...huh.

Here are the notes I had for it:

VOTE COUNT 1 . 19
XnadrojX ------ 3 ( Nahdia, JaeReed, Lil Uzi Vert, Purple Nurple, Impoetic ) L- 2
Purple Nurple - 2 ( Garrybote, osuka ) L- 3
Nahdia -------- 1 ( Oggs Benedict ) L- 4



- MathBlade Smocaine* Oggs benedict** (Lynched but Janitored)
- Lil Uzi Vert***
- Eddie Cane/Skirt Skirt*** Purple Nurple (Hydra of mastina and Eddie Cane)** (TOWN AS FUCK)

- XnadrojX Aristophanes** (TOWN POST RESTRICTION RESTRICTION BREAKING GLADIATOR)


RadiantCowbells osuka* Section 9 (Hydra of Zachstralkita and kraska77) Mathblade was town AF

{Impoetic, RC}
{Gerryoat}
{Nahdia}
{Jaereed/Sonia, Skirt}
{LUV}





- Nahdia**
- Impoetic***

- gerryoat
- xSoniaNevermindx* JaeReed*




Me - Asectic Tracker
Gerry - Flavour Cop
Impoetic - 1-Shot Masonier
Nahida - Crier
osuka - ??
Purple - Split Jailkeeper
Sonia - Reflective Director

You are right. muh bad. still, I knew you were town anyway. and I was right!

[MathBlade]

And if porkens was an actual vig porkens would just eat me. However Porkens isn't a vig and is scum so Porkens has to push me.

why wouldn't scum porkens also just eat you?

Because my being eaten or my flip implicates porkens way too much.

Porkens wants me to shut the fuck up and tries to intimidate me with a vote but apparently porkens hasn't seen a math tunnel.

Because porkens is going down and we are winning this game.

[MathBlade]

I swear to god you flipped scum in that game. I have a vivid memory of it. But it's not there now, so...huh.

Here are the notes I had for it:

VOTE COUNT 1 . 19
XnadrojX ------ 3 ( Nahdia, JaeReed, Lil Uzi Vert, Purple Nurple, Impoetic ) L- 2
Purple Nurple - 2 ( Garrybote, osuka ) L- 3
Nahdia -------- 1 ( Oggs Benedict ) L- 4



- MathBlade Smocaine* Oggs benedict** (Lynched but Janitored)
- Lil Uzi Vert***
- Eddie Cane/Skirt Skirt*** Purple Nurple (Hydra of mastina and Eddie Cane)** (TOWN AS FUCK)

- XnadrojX Aristophanes** (TOWN POST RESTRICTION RESTRICTION BREAKING GLADIATOR)


RadiantCowbells osuka* Section 9 (Hydra of Zachstralkita and kraska77) Mathblade was town AF

{Impoetic, RC}
{Gerryoat}
{Nahdia}
{Jaereed/Sonia, Skirt}
{LUV}





- Nahdia**
- Impoetic***

- gerryoat
- xSoniaNevermindx* JaeReed*




Me - Asectic Tracker
Gerry - Flavour Cop
Impoetic - 1-Shot Masonier
Nahida - Crier
osuka - ??
Purple - Split Jailkeeper
Sonia - Reflective Director

You are right. muh bad. still, I knew you were town anyway. and I was right!

And guess what I am town and you are scum!

[northsidegal]

so here are my stream of consciousness thoughts about the nightkills, taking into account the new information. among keychain and a50, one was the mafia shot and one was the serial killer shot. i just can't see any serial killer motivation for killing a50, whereas if i consider the scenario where the sk killed keychain, godel's name jumps into my mind immediately. that slot just moved a lot more down the list for me. then, if we're to take it that the sk shot keychain, mafia shot a50. i'm not entirely sure why this would happen so it casts doubt in my mind if this is the case. possibilities for who as mafia would want a50 dead would be a mafia keychain and... can't really think of anyone else. i'll definitely have to think about this a bit more.

this is all assuming, of course, that porkens is telling the truth.

LOL This is a crock. No decent SK/scum ever shoots keychain.

Keychain was primed and ready for pressure by multiple players.

not really. keychain's wagon never went anywhere and it was never really going anywhere. meanwhile, keychain was the one, increidbly active player who was casting suspicion on godel and forced activity out of him. it just makes a lot of intuitive sense to me that the serial killer shot keychain, and that serial killer was godel. if keychain being shot by mafia makes more sense to you, what's your reasoning behind that?

[Porkens]

Again: I'm not joking. That is the correct info.

I think A50 was probably scum who shot keychain.
and the sk ate a50.

[Porkens]

I'm glad you are getting lynched today. I was really happy that you /inned but you have no reason not to believe I'm vig other than desperately wanting me lynched.