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Its purpose is to end as quickly as possible. Building cases seems like a much better way to find scum than cracking witty jokes.
I don't know why you want everyone to prove their existence before RVS can end. Isn't that what the confirmation stage is for?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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No, I'm just stating how unproductive it is to be voting an empty slot at that stage of the game.In post 28, Chip Butty wrote: Micc, if we are going to get all serious, it seems to me that that slot has as much chance of being scum as any other, so why would it matter that RC was replacing out? Are you trying to discourage votes on that slot?
I don't think so. By that logic one could argue that self voting is a productive way to end RVS and I don't agree with that at all.In post 30, northsidegal wrote: if you're saying that rvs voting an empty slot doesn't help leave rvs because it doesn't draw reactions the same way that rvsing a player who's in the game does, shouldn't your own reaction to that prove that wrong?
So who of Cheekyteeky, Micc, and nothsidegal is most likely to be scum on your wagon?In post 56, Chip Butty wrote:Well, if somehow I do get lynched, look for scum on my wagon. There's only 8 available votes, and there are 5 needed to lynch and I can't see 5 town voting for this RC thing. Or even 4, really...Gotta go..."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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You haven't really done anything interesting at this point so that's where I'm at.In post 76, Cabd wrote:Oh are we done. Okay. Let's talk about how micc just skipped over my entrence entirely?
I guess we will just have to wait and see what Chip says Chip meant instead of what northsidegal thinks Chip meant.In post 78, northsidegal wrote:
although that's a valid question on its own i think he was talking more generally about the idea that he'd be lynched just for the placement of his rvs vote and how scum would have to be on that wagon if it went trhough. i don't think specifically he was calling any of those three scum.In post 65, Micc wrote:So who of Cheekyteeky, Micc, and nothsidegal is most likely to be scum on your wagon?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Really tho. what's up with this vote northsidegal?In post 84, northsidegal wrote:rude!! we're still sort of in rvs so i don't feel bad about this!VOTE: micc
You're clearly analyzing the game at this point and thus not in RVS anymore...but I was being rude so I get a vote...and its ok because RVS?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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This seems to imply you got a town read on Hopkirk from post 38. Can you explain that one please?In post 39, Sobolev Space wrote:now i've got two trs and one of them isn't cabd"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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I think if youre serious about your vote you should be stating a case to convince the other players in the game to join you in forming a wagon.In post 100, northsidegal wrote:pagetop!
micc, it was a mostly random vote but now it's a serious one. what do you think about that?
Sure, if I was reaction testing it would make sense that I should have expectations prior to receiving a response. But this wasn't even a reaction test. I'm just legitimately curious what northsidegal was trying to do with the vote. Like, I got snarky because she was interfering with my line of questioning on Chip. Yet her questioning seemed like an attempt at engagement. I didn't want to shut that down so I reached out again by asking about the vote, but she's clearly not interested in engagement at this point. Guess I probably answered my own question and it was a reaction test. Regardless she's not getting town points from me until she explains the vote or explains the reaction test.In post 101, CheekyTeeky wrote:That's very "Switzerland" of you lol. I think your logic is bad though. You can have expectations prior to receiving a response, and get a better read by digging asking questions. I assume that you already have a read on me then, since you're not digging and asking me questions?
nothing from you has struck me as awkward or scummy enough to begin questioning. I guess that makes you a town lean but in truth it just means that I haven't begun to try and sort you yet. ill get there at some point tho. I promise."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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I'll aknowledge the meta argument when you provide analysis of quotes from games of mine as each alignment.
But like, I tried to engage you about your vote in posts 85 and 96. Forgive me for getting snarky again with post 102, but posts 85 and 96 were my response to your vote...and then you just brushed them off. If you followed my advice and posted a case I would have gotten to see why you're vote changed to serious and posts 85 and 96 are exactly me "pressing you for an oddly timed RVS vote". Like what gives?
Pretty sure these are the only scum games I've played besides marathons. I'm looking forward to the meta analysis regarding my mechanicalness.
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...and that's why it's rude to answer questions that aren't aimed at you.In post 105, Chip Butty wrote: What NSG said.
@Chip: How is "If I get lynched there is likely scum on my wagon" a useful post if you don't even have an opinion about who the scum on your wagon is? Can't literally anyone who gets lynched make that argument and have it be true more often than not?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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sup. For what its worth I wrote the set up with no self protect, but according to the role pm's it is allowed in this game. That might affect possible breaking strategies. I'll have to think on it as well. I remember being pretty confident there were none in the original setup but I don't have or remember any of that analysis.In post 128, Cabd wrote:I realize the creator of this setup is here, but my itch to try and break setups will never truly go away.
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you don't get to admit that you made a bad vote and then still leave it on all while ignoring the posts I made that showed how bad of a vote it was. Also, where's that meta analysis?
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I remember coming to the conclusion that just being a named townie was as much if not more powerful than the actual protection ability. Named townie guarantees town either a confirmed player or a 1v1 counterclaim at some point in the game. Self protection does guarantee the protection role won't get nightkilled before claiming if they go that route. the quickest path to victory for scum isn't to ignite part way through the game tho so I don't think it's high impact that the protection role can guarantee it survives to "Lylo""To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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has your opinion on chip butty changed as his wagon fell apart? the lack of traction for the wagon meant there was less pressure than I would have liked. I'm left feeling like I don't have a read on him because of it.In post 119, Sobolev Space wrote:
yea i thought that his questions in 38 meshed a lot with what i was thinking when i read those posts which indicates a towny thought process. it wasn't a super strong read at the time but its been strengthened by his recent posts as wellIn post 97, Micc wrote:
This seems to imply you got a town read on Hopkirk from post 38. Can you explain that one please?In post 39, Sobolev Space wrote:now i've got two trs and one of them isn't cabd
ftr my other tr at the time was chip but when i entered the game the wagon on him was pretty much the only thing happening and i wanted to see what happened with it"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Well, I think ive refuted the points you made regarding the seriously serious vote and I think this post unfairly mis represents my contributions to the game thus far. Do me a favor and seriously think about my play and ask yourself what is likely to come from town/scum and why. If you decide that youre scum reading me solely because you don't like what I'm doing or how I'm doing it then back off. If you really think I'm scum bring the evidence to the table. Right now I'm trying to decide if I caught scum you pushing a bad case or if youre town that is confirmation biasing herself because she doesn't like my approach to the game.In post 143, northsidegal wrote:sorry, i wasn't clear again. me voting you initially wasn't entirely serious. my vote as it stands now is where i want it to be. let's look at the sum total of your contributions this game: you threw a little fit over someone's rvs vote and then you threw a little fit again over my vote on you. i hope i'm not making the mistake of letting how much i dislike you cloud my judgment, but i don't think i am.
and thus why I think this argument doesn't hold water. Its pretty clear that you decided my posts look "awkward" and went into my previous games in order to find evidence that proves to yourself that its alignment indicative. As Cabd can attest to, it takes A Lot of time to make a legitimate meta argument. And if you're going out to find the evidence after you have your hypothesis then your doing it wrong.In post 143, northsidegal wrote:it's hard to display in quotes how natural you sound in one game as opposed to the other
could you expand on post 56 please? that's the post I picked out as pretty useless to make as town and questioned him further on. Is there a reason a newer player wouldn't have this type of reaction as scum? for me it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that needs to be said if he's town and as scum he would likely be using it to discourage the players on his wagon from staying on it any longer.In post 146, Sobolev Space wrote:
eh he's still a tr. i thought his response to his wagon in 56 was fairly towny. it was a lot like how i reacted to being wagoned early in my first newbie game although given his join date i'm a little less inclined to tr it than i would if he was a newbie.In post 142, Micc wrote:has your opinion on chip butty changed as his wagon fell apart? the lack of traction for the wagon meant there was less pressure than I would have liked. I'm left feeling like I don't have a read on him because of it.
i wish he would contribute more but i'm most interested in hearing btd's thoughts rn"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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how much consideration have you accounted for regarding the time left in the Day? Looks to me like BlueBlake was at L-1 with 12 hours left in the Day and Sunlit Diamond went to L-2 on page 4. One player was basically 99% to be lynched that Day and the other maybe 25%. Transitioning back to this game I think its silly for anyone think that Chip was in danger of being lynched on page 4...and with that in mind its more likely that he was trying to dissolve his wagon instead of give sound advice to the town.In post 149, Sobolev Space wrote:resignation to being lynched is more townie amongst newbies than not imo. especially trying to give advice for where to look for scum post-flip since scum doesn't really care what town does after they're lynched - they just want to stay alive - while town does.
for example in my last game we wagoned scum early d1 and they responded by being much colder than they were early game
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meanwhile the newbie townie that we wagoned d1 seemed like they kinda gave up and resigned themselves to being lynched eventually and expressed similar frustration to chip as to the case on them:
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i didn't realize chip was as experienced as he was however, so the i'm not tring these as much as before"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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So you think there was a reasonably high likelihood of you being lynched in the 10 hours you said you'd be gone...less than 48 hours into the game...and before you claimed?In post 155, Chip Butty wrote:This is just my second micro and the first finished well over a year ago. I'm just not used to the idea of 5 being enough to lynch on d1, and i was a bit startled that i had 3 seemingly just from the RC thing. It just felt like i was getting railroaded and i want to draw people's attention to it since i wasn't going to be around to defend myself.
no. I don't buy it at all. I want to keep pushing and if there's support for his wagon ill gladly switch my vote.In post 156, Sobolev Space wrote:what do you think of him now? do you buy his last post?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Its not like you've made my point invalid with your play tho... You're most recent vote is still the RVS vote on RC/Cabd. Your contribution to the game thus far is primarily reaction to other players having questioned you and complaining of my playstyle. There is some posts pushing at Cabd but nothing that resembles a case or a reason that you think he's scum. I guess I'm still not convince you've jumped into the game yourself at this point.In post 161, Chip Butty wrote:I'm flattered you think i would cook up the ingeniously villainous idea of voting for RC just to drag out RVS a bit longer, but if you go back and read the post you're fixating on, you'll see it says 'If somehow i get lynched...' That indicates i think it is low probability but am saying jic. And it's not like people don't do idiotic things in Mafia.Can we go back to RVS? I feel like we missed out on a proper RVS thanks to your no-fun-allowed policy...
Re post 56: but what are you contributing to the town by saying there's likely going to be scum on your wagon if you get quicklynched on page 4? Looking for scum on mislynch wagons is a level zero scumhunting strategy that no town needs to be reminded about. I especially have a problem with your defense given that the equivalent of a vanilla townie in this game gets treestumped upon being lynched and can come back and say whatever they wish the following day."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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This is what we're analyzing?In post 50, Cabd wrote:The setup isn't anything too complex, I will note we will NOT get flips night one; and no-lynching in this setup is almost always the wrong move.
Everything before the semicolon is just fact, and everything after the semicolon is fact for anyone who is town. I guess you must be picking out the word "almost" and trying to argue that that its a scum slip because the only reason to use that qualifier is if your alignment is scum.
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If the thing is to actually dive into this game then yes pls do. everytime I go to try and read you here I get reminded of newbie 1516 and I don't want a repeat of that game. I know there were reasons for your disengagement to that game that aren't present here but if feels like you're headed down the same path."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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yeah idk. I spent some time thinking about it the other night but it never felt like it was going anywhere.
when x=100 we get 1 confirmed town to lylo. when x=0 we have the least amount of information of any value of x. Clearly 100 is the best value of x to get the most for sure confirmed town players. but theres some value of x between 0 and 100 were the scumteam decides the risk is worth it to target the protection role. I would think its just 100percent dived by 7 town players but ehh maybe that's not the right way to look at it?
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bah this is why you don't allow self protection in mafia. ive attacked it from a bunch of different angles and my conclusion is that publicly announcing a value of x just gives scum information they wouldn't otherwise have. There is some amount of room for WIFOM about whether you're actually following the announced strategy...but when it comes down to it there are lines of play for scum to navigate all values of x when the value of x is publicly announced.
so do what you want and don't tell us. I think?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Cool beans. I can work that.In post 226, northsidegal wrote:i've been a little but busy but i've also been thinking a lot about this game. the more thought i give to the issue the more i think it's possible i'm reading through the thread with the goal of trying to make you scum in my mind to fit some narrative rather than objectively looking at things. for the sake of both the town and myself i think it's counterproductive for me to keep going with it, so for now i think what i'm going to do is just try to focus on other people.
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The lack of ability to build momentum on any wagons so far this game makes me want to look for scum in the lower activity players. At the same time I'm conflicted because I generally view parking a vote on a player for lack of participation as a waste of time."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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yeah that's where I got hung up as well.In post 233, Cabd wrote:I mean yeah NSG's approach to this game has been very weird; but can somebody explain why it's SCUM-weird?
how do you feel about what I said in post 229? ive got a lynch pool of kawso, BTD6_maker and hopkirk and then chip butty and northsidegal are on the second tier."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Yeah I can see that. your push lines up decently with what I was pushing her for. I unvoted to give her room to focus on other players which is what she said she wanted to do. She's not really taking advantage of that right now.... and with other two players in prod range and yet another on MEGA-VLA the game's stalling out...and she's still voting me?
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She's not in my lynch pool right now. I guess that makes her a default town read.In post 247, Hopkirk wrote:What are you thoughts on Cheeky?
Micc > Profile page > view their topics > take your pick. Any game thread that wasn't started by me is probably a game I played in. All but two if them I'll be town.In post 255, CheekyTeeky wrote:Micc do you have some town games I could look at please?
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Im gunna reply to everything aimed at me in the thread and then go back and reread a bit. if I don't have inspiration in any other direction ill join you but it'd be like 99% a policy lynch because Im not even going to bother trying to get a read based on two posts.In post 259, Sobolev Space wrote:
micc can i convince you to vote for kawso. like i get he's been lurky but i just don't see at all how a townie comes back to the game, sees 4 new pages and just makes 107 with a garbage explanation for a vote. its like he's just searching for reasons to vote so he's at least doing something without actually engaging in the gameIn post 236, Micc wrote:
yeah that's where I got hung up as well.In post 233, Cabd wrote:I mean yeah NSG's approach to this game has been very weird; but can somebody explain why it's SCUM-weird?
how do you feel about what I said in post 229? ive got a lynch pool of kawso, BTD6_maker and hopkirk and then chip butty and northsidegal are on the second tier.
I haven't had an opportunity to sit down and digest the last few pages yet so this is still where I'm at:In post 280, Cabd wrote:For the record, I am reserving my real reads list until everyone else has posted theirs, i don't want "sheep the confotown's reads" being a thing.
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I had a little chuckle. got stuck doing the work I actually get paid for 3 hours past the end of the shift last night. so yeah, it didn't feel like a drop off to me.In post 294, Chip Butty wrote:Micc's work rate has definitely dropped off..."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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well I appreciate the respect but I hardly see how having designed an interesting open setup makes me a talented scum player, and I especially don't see how it makes me scummy in this game.
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No, I'm not interested in wagoning anyone who's not here. That's never productive. I kinda want to wagon you because it still bothers me that it never got traction the first time.
Let's talk about Hopkirk. He's your lowest read of the players with more than two posts. I have him moving above you because I liked a lot of things he did in his catch up. What's your read based on?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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It looks to me like he's actively pushing a wagon on a player he thinks is scum. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by penetrating, but in a game where more people aren't voting than are voting I'd say there evidence that he's got an opinion and he's pushing it. Do you agree?
Im not saying I don't think he can be scum. I'm just saying that voting him isn't gunna make him talk. At some point he'll post or be replaced"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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VOTE: Chip butty
Well none of that moved me away from wanting to see this wagon happen. I don't like his trajectory on me. He moved me from towniest among the active slots to being null simply by not posting for a day. I thought the creater of the setup thing was a joke at first but he reemphisised it without anyone else bringing it up and I can't see why he's letting that have an impact on his read.
My understanding of his point against hopkirk is that hopkirks reads are superficial and or lack deep analysis. Not only do I disagree with that I think I could accuse Chip of that same thing. Seems like more of his reads are activity based than anything else which I see as very superficial."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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I could quote every post hopkirk has made that is either a) actively pushing a wagon on a player he thinks is scum or b) questioning a player in order to develop a read. I could then do the same for you. His list would be significantly longer.
Second paragraph is just being unnecessarily cryptic. I'm over here perfectly willing to engage you, my largest scum read, in conversation with an open mind and thats what you give me. It's like going down my Facebook feed and seeing all the click bait shitty news articles. "You'll wont believe what Micc did - whole player list now thinks he's scum!" Follow thirty different links to find out more!"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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I wasn't badgering you during the period of the game where my work rate decreased was I? It's not like you locked in a target and started pushing a wagon. You keep complaining about not much happening in this thread but I don't see you actively trying to fix it. That's the irony is see.
Also the case has built beyond what it was on page 1. Stop pretending like it hasn't."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Nope.In post 320, Chip Butty wrote:Sobolev is scum leaning Hopkirk too, yet you have no problem with that?
I missed it because I don't have a keen interest in Hopkirk assessments and progressions.In post 322, Chip Butty wrote:@Micc: Given your keen interest in Hopkirk assessments and progressions, how did you fail to notice this?
The case is that:In post 323, Chip Butty wrote:
The 'case', as you call it, seems to amount to this:In post 316, Micc wrote: Also the case has built beyond what it was on page 1. Stop pretending like it hasn't.
1. A joke RVS vote on a guy who was replacing out.
2. Post 56, where you failed to notice all the content.
3. We differ in our assessment of Hopkirk. Yet you don't question at least one other who shares my assessment.
4. I downgraded you a notch, and you don't like the reasons stated so far. Yet you don't comment on the unexplained Sobolev progression on Hopkirk.
5. I haven't apparently been gamesolving enough for you, perhaps because like i said I've spent most of my time in this game responding to 1-4. I mean, show me where anyone has come up with a solid case on anyone in this game.
1. There is no town motivation behind your post 56, just the scum motivation of trying to disband your wagon.
2. I think the trajectory and reasoning behind your reads are unnatural and have bad logic.
3. You aren't voting, don't have a primary scum read, and don't appear to be doing anything to change that.
"Badgering" is the equivalent of "pushing" in my opinion. One's a little more in line with the festivities of central Wisconsin on a college football Saturday so that's what I went with.In post 325, Chip Butty wrote:And is this an admission that you have been badgering me the rest of the time? Interesting that you introduce the term badgering which i didn't.
But yeah. I was pushing you before and then I stopped and now I'm pushing you again. I will admit to that."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Yes, you pointed that out. And I responded to it in 154 and 164 among other posts. I agree we've done this dance already. We don't need to continue fighting over it, but my opinion hasn't changed and I'm obligated to bring it up when you ask me to state my case.In post 327, Chip Butty wrote:No town motivation behind 56???
I was saying if i got lynched there was a high likelihood of both scum being on my wagon, effectively narrowing the field to 5. How is that not town motivated? I've already pointed this out.
Btw, for the record, which of 1-5 do you currently stand by? And, again, is there anything else you want to bring?
I literally made a numbered list. I'll go on record for standing by the things on my list. If I had more things they would have gone on my list.
Re 327:
I'm not pushing you for scum leaning Hopkirk. I'm pushing you because I think your reasons for scum reading Hopkirk are poorly analyzed and look like fake reasons. That's not how I feel about Sobolev's reasons which is why I'm not pushing him.
We could flip this around and talk about your assessment of non Hopkirk players and it wouldn't change how I feel. I already gave your read on me as an example and could do the same for your read on now essentially confirmed town Cabd if I wanted to.
Yeah I pushed you because your progression sucked. You moved me down three spots on your reads list because I hadn't posted for like 30 hours. If I noticed other players with read progressions as unnatural as that I'd question them for it too.
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Geez it doesn't end. Let me grab my laptop so I don't have to try and quote stuff on my phone"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Sure.In post 329, Chip Butty wrote: Speaking of progressions, you've gone from having Hopkirk in your lynch pool here (above me, I might add) to thinking, apparently, that he is towny. Please detail specifically what changed your mind in the intervening 7 (if i counted correctly) posts.
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They do if they are trying to act like town. What's your point? I don't think Hopkirks push is fake. I do think what little amount of pushing you have done looks fake. I don't know how many different ways I can try to explain or show examples of that.In post 330, Chip Butty wrote:
Because scum never do these things, right?In post 314, Micc wrote:I could quote every post hopkirk has made that is either a) actively pushing a wagon on a player he thinks is scum or b) questioning a player in order to develop a read. I could then do the same for you. His list would be significantly longer."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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ehh, that's certainly possible. doesn't mean i'm going to stop pushing tho.
In post 285, Lycanfire wrote:Kawso has been prodded.Lycanfire, do you have an update on this? It's been nearly five days now since he last posted."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Nah, you can run pretty much anything you want in the micro queue with one game of moderation expierence as long as people will sign up for it. Not too long after I first ran it, the setup won one of the categories of an open setup design contest and got put into the wiki and now it gets ran every once in a while. It's cool and all - I'm certainly proud of it, but I wouldn't even say I'm the most accomplished moderator playing in this game.
So why does this matter again?"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Yeah that's fine and dandy with me. I don't think I've done anything but respond to your questions or call for other players to join your wagon since I voted you. So yeah, do your thing.
And because I'm not sure if those questions are rhetorical or not, the two sentences I was referring to are quoted below. They summarize the second and third bullet points of the case I made in post 326 quite nicely.In post 378, CheekyTeeky wrote:...I've just noticed that a few of your posts mention that this game is confusing and that everybody else is confused also. That in combination with, what looks like, you unsuccessfully trying to game solve, leads me to believe this is more of an act than not."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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cheeky I don't understand what your problem with hopkirk is. He clearly had northsidegal as a larger scum read than you. That's why he made a 5 post case on northsidegal and voted her instead of making a 5 post case on you and voting you. He only switched to you after you called him out on things that are explicitly not true and then refused to engage further with him when he tried to explain why you were wrong.
predit: well I didn't read that and I have to go back to work"To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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where'd you respond to northsidegal's points? I'm admittedly trying to understand where each of you are coming from on this one and I don't see it.
With regards to Hopkirk, what thing is there to do? You can't blatantly misrepresent what someone's saying then refuse to engage with them when they take issue. There's no master plan buried deep down in that.
Northsidegal, can you try and summarize your case against cheeky in three sentences or less? I get bits and pieces of 400 but im having trouble seeing how it all comes together to make cheeky scum."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo- Micc
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Do you want me to give you room engage with other players or not? I'm making a conscious effort to let you do the things you say you want to do. Yet these snarky posts about how I'm treating you unfairly keep coming out of nowhere.
I'm sorry that I scum read you and that pressuring scumreads through wagons is how I play the game. If I thought being unnecessarily obtuse was evidence of Cheeky being scum I'd be pressuring and calling for a wagon on her. But I don't so I'm not."To hide a tree, use a forest" -Ninja Boy Hideo - Micc
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