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Post Post #3350 (ISO) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:51 pm

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This is why i have issues with expecting players to not have to buy multiple rune pages, this is me attempting to edit a rune page before a game.
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Post Post #3351 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:02 am

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Post Post #3352 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:38 am

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Yes me showing the possible bug and why you should pre-make rune pages is totally a bad thing :roll:
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Post Post #3353 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:47 am

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The difference between helping and explaining why you're right is in the details. But I understand that's hard ;)
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Post Post #3354 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:54 am

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oh and the bug is reproducible (and fixable). It occurs when you are in the middle of a rune page, and something pulls you away from it forcibly with it being an incomplete configuration. If you have any invalid rune pages, it will conk your whole shit.

Lucky for you, if you go to the rune section on the main menu, if you have this bug, it will also produce itself there, so all yuo need to do is relog and you are fine.

Fortunately, the only time this bug would hit you while making a rune page in champ select is when someone dodges and force pulls you to lobby/queue... which gives you a chance to cancel/decline queue, relog, and not have the problem.

But hey, I agree with Ani on this, so.
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Post Post #3355 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:04 am

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This is abnormal. LLD and I agree on something.
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Post Post #3356 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:49 am

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In post 3354, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:oh and the bug is reproducible (and fixable). It occurs when you are in the middle of a rune page, and something pulls you away from it forcibly with it being an incomplete configuration. If you have any invalid rune pages, it will conk your whole shit.
I mean... you say this, but this was just after logging in, and i hadn't gone anywhere near the runes.
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Post Post #3357 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:17 am

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You don't have to buy pages tho. Just make the pre-game if you're worried about it, or just play a champ you have a rune page for until you can log out and check it out of queue.
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Post Post #3358 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:52 am

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they'll presumably give us less time to alter runes in the future, but right now i feel comfortable switching stuff up in champion select as information comes in about matchup and whatnot
biggest use of that though has been deciding whether i'll take stopwatch or not based on early kill pressure
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Post Post #3359 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:54 am

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by the way, stopwatch costs like 600 gold
if someone's gonna build zhonyas, isn't it insane not to take it?
(i suppose you can argue a rune that gets you more kills on average or just control over the game/lane might pay off more)

EDIT: it seems that if you get stopwatch through the rune, it actually costs an extra 300g to upgrade it to zhonyas; that changes the math quite a bit, though the item cooldown reduction shouldn't be ignored either
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Post Post #3360 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:17 am

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I mean, it basically becomes is 300 gold worth trading for biscuits, and honestly it's very debatable between them.

And unless your going Zhonya's first item, then the price decrease means a bit less.
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Post Post #3361 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:33 am

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In post 3359, Psyche wrote:by the way, stopwatch costs like 600 gold
if someone's gonna build zhonyas, isn't it insane not to take it?
(i suppose you can argue a rune that gets you more kills on average or just control over the game/lane might pay off more)

EDIT: it seems that if you get stopwatch through the rune, it actually costs an extra 300g to upgrade it to zhonyas; that changes the math quite a bit, though the item cooldown reduction shouldn't be ignored either
this same logic is why i've been contemplating taking magic feet on all my carries. I don't typically buy boots 1 that early unless i'm against brand or lux, but giving up the red damage is real tough right now. Like the requirements are like "can't use cheap shots, sudden impact, or ravenous hunter and is safe enough to not have to use feast". So Ezreal.
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Post Post #3362 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:39 am

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it seems they designed those subrunes to give you ~300 gold no matter what
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Post Post #3363 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:40 am

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Also has anyone else's games been finishing at a ridiculous fast pace? My average game time in my last 20 on this patch is sub 30 minutes.
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Post Post #3364 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 3362, Psyche wrote:it seems they designed those subrunes to give you ~300 gold no matter what
I think magic feet is closer to 4 tbh. Cause it's 350 straight up + the value of 10 movement speed.

edit: 1 ms is worth about 12g. So Magic Feet essentially gives you 470 gold worth of value.

Biscuits gives you 224g of stats(the mana) and idfk how to calculate the worth of the biscuit itself cause it straight doesn't translate to Health Pots.
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Post Post #3365 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:55 am

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any convincing uses for unsealed spellbook come up yet?
best i can think of is when you want to build jg items (like bloodrazer?) but don't want to be stuck with smite all game
does that even work i'm checking
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Post Post #3366 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:57 am

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Yeah that was basically the only thing I thought of. On a guy like Ivern or something. Go Blue Green or something. Take exhaust when Objectives aren't up and take smite when you need it.
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Post Post #3367 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:30 am

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It's a fun idea that doesn't work in practice for most things, imo
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Post Post #3368 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:38 am

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the gameplay rioter on the lol forum found it very swingy; people being either very successful or very bad with it relative to people with other keystones
i really wonder what the very successful people are doing

maybe they're mostly abusing the 25% cooldown advantage?
it isn't nothing, especially for an actual jungler
starting with ignite and progressing to teleport or vice versa seems like a clear use for a toplaner or someone else btw
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Post Post #3369 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:41 am

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some champions seem more gated by summoner spells instead of damage than others
immobile mages like annie, for example, often build lucidity boots for the more common flash, and won't need the extra damage if their teammates have it and can follow up..?
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Post Post #3370 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:11 am

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In post 3365, Psyche wrote:best i can think of is when you want to build jg items (like bloodrazer?) but don't want to be stuck with smite all game
since a lot of the appeal of going bloodrazor seems to be through access to red smite, this is probably a meh idea too
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Post Post #3371 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:31 am

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The only use I've seen of spellbook that I liked was blitz stealing the jungler's first buff, smiting it, then switching back to a lane spell later
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Post Post #3372 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:48 am

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i've been enjoying unsealed on malz as you can take rly variable summs on him throughout the game (tp/ign/exh/ghost/heal/barrier all work) so depending on how the game plays out i can switch it up.
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Post Post #3373 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:56 am

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Do his summoner spell requirements tend to change as the game goes on?

I haven't played him much.
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Post Post #3374 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:03 am

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I like tp for lane and barrier or exhaust for fights but I play aery malzahar so
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