Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 446, Ginngie wrote:like, you've been avoiding actually sorting any slot like you're in 2nd grade and you're afraid of the cooties

And none of that is AI.

I’m going to play at my own pace. I’m more interested in riling up Cheese right now than sorting him. I’m more interested in seeing if anyone actually has a case on me. I’m more interested in what others who haven’t posted as much have to say.

momo · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 448, EddieFenix wrote:
Momo, why Snarky?!

In post 422, momo wrote:
In post 323, SnarkySnowman wrote:VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.
I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group
and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.

checkersman7 · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:02 pm

In post 450, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I’m more interested in riling up Cheese right now than sorting him

momo · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:03 pm

Just found out ginngie is gin.

From what I remember, Gin does not play like this.

Does the alt account always act like this?

I honestly don't know.

If they do , it's a TR. If not....

Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view

Either way, gn everyone, seeya tomorrow

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:04 pm

2 down, 19 to go!

Surreptitious · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:04 pm

Be aware that there is a somewhat loose rule against posting too much and too little. We don't want to have to take it any further because we want people to be able to gauge for themselves if they are posting too much or too little, but if it gets out of hand, we are prepared for that.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:05 pm

In post 455, Surreptitious wrote:
Be aware that there is a somewhat loose rule against posting too much and too little. We don't want to have to take it any further because we want people to be able to gauge for themselves if they are posting too much or too little, but if it gets out of hand, we are prepared for that.

The mods are mafia!

checkersman7 · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:05 pm

In post 453, momo wrote:Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view

You need to take a good long look in the mirror and decide which of me/LUV you are scumreading.

Both is not an acceptable answer at this point in time.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:06 pm

And why’s that?

Transcend · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:27 pm

MOMOMAN

Transcend · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:31 pm

Also i read 7 missed pages backwards and i think i lost a 6 digit number amount of brain cells

Transcend · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:36 pm

In post 457, checkersman7 wrote:
In post 453, momo wrote:Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view
You need to take a good long look in the mirror and decide which of me/LUV you are scumreading.

Both is not an acceptable answer at this point in time.

Why not?

If mafia don't know traitors and vice versa, it's plausible.

Majiffy · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:45 pm

In post 362, checkersman7 wrote:
In post 361, Bulbazak wrote:And even if he's scum who claims town PR, do you really think he'll get CC?
....yes, by the real town PR

In post 363, Rautherdir wrote:That's why I am making a policy of no claims. Anyone who claims gets lynched.

Except Chess and I already broke down why this is totally okay several pages ago.

In post 368, Ginngie wrote:I wonder if I'm so sick

Is it really heavy mucus buildup and a lot of coughing? I had that for about 2.5 weeks. Load up on cold/flu meds. I left it untreated for a week and I paid heavily for it.

In post 390, checkersman7 wrote:anyway my vote will remain parked until/unless un-cced claim and I will happily lurk/1v1 the slot/etc because oh my god someone free me from this game.

Welcome to mafia

In post 394, checkersman7 wrote:I don't replace out when i have caught scum I SCREAM
AND I SCREAM

AND I SCREAM

AND I FUCKING SCREAM

Are you sure you're not Kuribo?

In post 395, Bulbazak wrote:I think you're missing that having all town PRs claim only breaks the setup for one side, and it's not the town one.

That's not remotely what we're talking about.

In post 404, Bulbazak wrote:And regardless of LUV's role, whether town PR, stupid VT, or scum (goon or traitor, doesn't matter), there's no way that a town PR in that group CCs him during DAY PHASE FREAKING ONE! That would essentially be signing their own death warrant, which would not be worth it at this point. They'd be more likely to just try to steer the lynch LUV's way anyway, because there's more than enough players who'd be willing to lynch him. The very thought is scum-sided, and not town-sided.

In post 292, Majiffy wrote:Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

In post 448, EddieFenix wrote: Thor-Jiffy, who in your group do you think is scum?

I'm scumreading LUV, which is evident from my very short ISO.

In post 461, Transcend wrote: Why not?

If mafia don't know traitors and vice versa, it's plausible.

Actually less likely to be goon/traitor and more likely goon/goon as this kind of over-the-top back-and-forth would be a pre-orchestrated argument in the known chaotic early game / RVS to distance.

But I'm also willing to bet Chess thinks too highly of his game to fake distancing early-game and would rather just find things about his partners to viably bring up and push weakly on.

Transcend · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:46 pm

Idt it's theatre

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:46 pm

I didn’t know you were scum reading me. That’s new.

Majiffy · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:48 pm

In post 463, Transcend wrote:Idt it's theatre

Yes that's exactly what I said the very last line of my post

In post 464, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I didn’t know you were scum reading me. That’s new.

I had a giant flashing alarm light gif and said "okay this can get lynched today", how much clearer can I be?

Does no one read what I'm typing?

Transcend · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:50 pm

You entertained both options which reads more on the fence to me but ok

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:50 pm

Read like you wanted to policy lynch me honestly.

Majiffy · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:51 pm

Those things are largely synonymous in the first few days of a mafia game.

Majiffy · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:52 pm

In post 466, Transcend wrote:You entertained both options which reads more on the fence to me but ok

No I explained why traitor/goon was less likely than goon/goon.

And then said why goon/goon was also unlikely in this particular scenario.

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Majiffy · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:57 pm

Toodles see you all tomorrow sheep Majiffy ty

Bulbazak · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:44 pm

In post 427, Ginngie wrote:what's the difference between having LUV claim and be counter claimed, meaning we all vote B and proceed to lynch

VERSUS

We all vote B, adn then LUV claims and be counter claimed and proceed to lynch

There are few fundamental differences based on the order of operations, but the biggest problem with scenario 1 is that I don't think anyone would CC claim, regardless of LUV's actual role.

In post 438, momo wrote:Honestly guys, we don't need a D1 claim.

Plus, there are plenty of other poss scum in B.

LUV shouldn't need to claim. He should simply be put under the microscope along with Snarky and Rauth. The time focused on him would be good for a read and even if we are not sure, we have 2 other likely scum.

This guy gets it. And given the rest of his posts, I'm pretty comfortable giving him a town read.

In post 448, EddieFenix wrote: Bulb, reads so far?

I really don't have our group figured out. I got a town ping from Elli, but I still need more. I also think I liked something from WhyMafia, but I can't remember what it was. Group B is more null. Majiffy and Thor are "wait and see". Momo is town. I have a town lean on LUV, although I'm starting to get annoyed by his need to troll. I also have a scum lean on Mick. In Group C I have town leans on Rach, Transcend, and Mikan. I have a scumread on Checkers. Out of all the groups, that's the one I feel the most solid at being able to crack. I think I can figure out Desp and Ginngie by d2, and then Vonflare is just PoE.

Mikan Tsumiki · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:48 pm

I'm sorry! I was away! I am catching up now! Please shoot me!

RachMarie · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:49 pm

LOL peeps I think Jiffy is town, he feels very much like he does at the other sites when he plays. Granted those sites play very short games not like here.

I need more from Thor to peg him as town or scumz

trans is prpb town but I have been fooled by him before so will hold off a bit on that.

I am fine with B getting sorted first there are a lot of good players in there.

VOTE: Group B

RachMarie · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:50 pm

EBWOP

prob town I hate typos.