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More what.In post 462, CheekyTeeky wrote:Don't know what to make of this just yet. Need more from Papa.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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yeah see this is a much better post than complainingIn post 464, CheekyTeeky wrote:Like you read things but what do you think about it all? Did you get any reads? Why are you voting BTD6_MAKER? What made him scummy to you?
I do have reads yes and unlike Friend BTD6 I had no trouble getting strong reads.
I'm voting him for reasons I don't want to get into at this time.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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That's a strong reaction? okIn post 474, CheekyTeeky wrote: Complaining? I said I need more...like more information to make a conclusion. I didn't say omg why is Zito not posting more game content. That's a pretty strong reaction to a pretty neutral statement. Prefacing your post like that makes withholding your read seem more scummy than I'd otherwise find it.
Good thing I'm not too terribly worried about what your read on me is I guess.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Shoulda kept reading.
I do have townreads yes.In post 476, northsidegal wrote:so what are those strong reads zito? any townreads? who do you think is scummy? your predecessor (you replaced kawso, right?) thought i was scum, do you agree?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Hello Chip. Let's talk about this sentence.In post 511, Chip Butty wrote:Zito is ex-SS so probably okay for now, even though he seems to be intent on scumming up the slot.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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The Magic Chip Formula.In post 513, Micc wrote:Seriously Chip. Put a vote into play.
Predit: haha, haven't you realized that Chip's go to method of reading people is that activity=Town, any sign of lurkyness=scum and absent=null.
I'm not really lurking I'm just feeling really confident in my reads. Which is weird but nice. So atm I'm much more interested in supporting my townreads efforts in doing things than trying to drill down on my own.
Other than Chip. I do want to have a chat with Chip. Speaking of which:
oh noIn post 514, Chip Butty wrote:Sure. If your slot didn't have the SS history behind it, i would be at least have you leaning scum atm.
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rofl I don't owe that guy anything and I sure as hell don't need to "town it up a bit"In post 519, Chip Butty wrote: So yes, let's chat. We'll both become towner as we go along. And not to be rude or anything, but i feel you kind of owe it to SS to town it up a bit...
Which hey look you've once again made a super vague statement. So here I am asking why you're tossing shade instead of either determining alignment or pushing a wagon. Can you plz solve this mysterious mystery.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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So here's your problem my friend. You've casually insinuated a few times now that my actions are "scummy" without actually giving any backing to the claim. And I've given you ample opportunity to do so. Just to be clear, I'm not asking so you can convinceIn post 525, Chip Butty wrote:Nopes again. You don't get to ask questions while blowing off questions from others. You haven't contributed anything except that naked vote on BTD. How am i supposed to townread you based on that?me, I know what my alignment is! But if you actually well and truly believe that I'm doing vague and mysterious scummy things then your reaction should include things like:
1. Voting me
2. Asking others to vote me; pushing a wagon
3. Pressuring me into answering questions
4. Examining my iso and voting history in detail
5. Putting forth a case
My issue is that you've done none of these things. Instead what you've done is:
1. Throw shade at my slot
2. Complain about my behavior
3. Refuse to explain basically anything
I came in with a pretty strong scumread on your slot, so when you presented the opportunity to engage I took it and you've failed spectacularly. Nothing you've done in reaction to me has been townie. Instead you've tried to take advantage of my nonstandard behavior by throwing shade to erode the townpoints my predecessor gained without actually committing to it with a vote or writing down a stance I could debunk. Doing that would pin you down into a 1-on-1 that you're not sure you want because you don't know how good a player I am or how good my reads happen to be.
@Micc:Are you done with BTD or do you still have things to hash out with that slot?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Rockin.
VOTE: Chip
I feel absolutely no pressure from Chip whatsoever. Complaining that he doesn't like what I'm doing (523/525)/ taking his ball and going home (526) forces nothing from me at all. You argued your own point on 521, well done.In post 529, northsidegal wrote:not really agreeing here. chip actuallyhasdone some of the things you're describing! as for pressuring you to answer questions, what do you call 523 and 525? you say that he's not examining your iso in detail, but that's pretty much what he does in 521. you could make the argument that he didn't analyze it in detail, but i would say that there wasn't really a whole lot to analyze. it doesn't make a lot of sense for chip to just suddenly start voting you and pushing your wagon just because he believes you've been scummier than ss was - the townread on ss still exists.
The SS hedge is fun but either I'm scummy to him or I'm not. He's thrown enough shade to make it clear he thinks the latter so I think I'm perfectly justified asking why his actions aren't aligning with his words.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Good lord almighty. I have answered all that at this point.
For someone who isn't feeling any pressure you sure are panic posting.
This is where you took your ball and went home.In post 526, Chip Butty wrote:I'll answer your questions after you have become more forthcoming.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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That's not what hypocrisy means. I know the big words are fun to use but let's be responsible posters.In post 553, BTD6_maker wrote:I can certainly see the hypocrisy of Papa Zito here, naked voting me and then making this case against you.
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Sure. 518.In post 544, Chip Butty wrote:Can you point me to where you answered that?
Do tell.In post 554, Chip Butty wrote:I'm pretty sure I've caught PZ in a lie there btw.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Neat.In post 567, Chip Butty wrote:Okay, let's look at 518. I'm really glad you brought this post up.
? I voted in 438. I explain in 518. Are you ok?First thing, i don't see how you have answered why you have answered my questions (which hadn't yet been asked at this point). All i see here is a preemptive strike against future questions by saying you don't want to drill down on your own stuff. Guess what, champ? That shit don't fly. I think you are just trying to retro-fit this post to suit your current needs.
That was in response to this post:And why did you feel the need to defend yourself against a lurking charge? Had anyone accused you of lurking? Not that i can see...In post 513, Micc wrote:Predit: haha, haven't you realized that Chip's go to method of reading people is that activity=Town, any sign of lurkyness=scum and absent=null.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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yeeshIn post 574, Chip Butty wrote:Except you don't explain your vote in 518. Is anyone else seeing an explanation there? All I'm seeing is 'I'm not interested in explaining'
Here I'll quote the exact sentence for you.
In post 518, Papa Zito wrote:So atm I'm much more interested in supporting my townreads efforts in doing things than trying to drill down on my own.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I will politely decline to answer these questions.In post 589, Chip Butty wrote:Why the townreads on Micc and Hopkirk? Why so strong you see them as sheepable?
Oh you want some mafia philosophy?Why didn't you want to say this was what you were doing?
Here's you some mafia philosophy. One of my early influences was Thesp, an IC in one of my newbie games, who said this:
So when I play, I tend not to "show my cards" as it were. I monitor what's going on in all the discussions being had, and I poke at people as well, but I don't tend to give much information away unless I'm specifically asked and I think the question being asked is helpful. Mostly I do this to keep the scum guessing - the less I give away, the less they know how big a threat I am to them. If I feel really strongly about a particular read I will go ham to get that lynch through.I strongly subscribe to a limited information theory of mafia in all directions - that is, there is a significant degree of information that everyone ought to keep secret and/or is trying to keep secret. (I think it's important to assess the motivations for keeping such things undisclosed, but it is not always as important to know for certain what people are keeping secret, aside from their alignments.) To that end, I will not explain my actions all the time, nor do I think I should. I do think I owe the town explanations from time to time, and if I expect to convince anyone, I absolutely ought to give more compelling reasons for people to follow along with me.
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@Chip: If you think you can push through a policy lynch you go right ahead bud.
Please illuminate the class on these gaping logical flaws.In post 597, CheekyTeeky wrote:NSG spotted the gaping logical flaws in Papa's caseKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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This isn't true in the least.In post 647, northsidegal wrote:a lot of your reasoning on how my posts make me chip's partner come off as if you already started with the perspective of me being chip's partner and then used that to explain how my posts made sense in that context, rather than starting from a neutral context.
If you want to live past today I'd suggest you start actually doing some work instead of trying to pick fights with Extremely Likely Townies.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I want you to prove me wrong. And Micc is the last person you should be worrying about.In post 652, northsidegal wrote:In post 650, Papa Zito wrote:why does it matter to you, don't you think i'm scum anyways?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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[quote="In post 665, UC Voyager"I think it is BTD6......he also wasn't on the chip wagon.[/quote]
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Yep, cheeky is a distant 2nd in the 2017 Most Likely Scumpartner Pageant.In post 693, northsidegal wrote:also of note is how both chip and cheeky had eachother solidly in the highest tier of both of their readslists, just below the conftown for chip. i honestly believe people are giving cheeky far too little scrutiny today, especially her reaction to the chip wagon as compared to mine.
If I'm bad town what are you, Captain Not-On-The-Scum-Lynch?In post 672, BTD6_maker wrote:That said, I still think they are bad Town.
Also I'm not a they.
What do you wanna talk over?In post 714, Micc wrote: For now. I haven't hit the aha moment that makes me think this is right yet and I'm getting cold feet. I don't want to do anything without talking it through with cabd/Zito/Hopkirk but it's not going to happen today because I'm kinda busy.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Is it bad to be confident in your reads and thus actually driving the game forward or is it bad to just sit on your ass and do absolutely nothing all game. Also my pronoun is tagged on every single of the thousands of posts I've made on this website.In post 720, BTD6_maker wrote:My point about bad Town was that they are much more confident in their reads than the actual probability. For example, I think it's likely that if you take every time a Townie claims to be 80% certain of a read, a lot less than 80% of those reads will be on actual scum.
Unless I am certain of a preferred pronoun, I tend to just use the singular they.
@MiccI came to the same conclusions you did when I read overnight. I'm 100% on board here. I'm also willing to vote Cheeky today.
@Hopkirkdid you read the multiple posts where northsidegal was defending our flipped scum? You really think those come from town?
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Yes.In post 731, northsidegal wrote:are you really going to lynch me
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jfc no please don't get them started on statistics
UC I'll make you a deal. You give me NSG today, I'll give you BTD6 tomorrow.In post 748, UC Voyager wrote:Wait. You don't want us to scum hunt until there is a replacment. If I wasn't so confidant in BTD6, I would say NSG was scummy...KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Few reasons.
1. We're ahead of the pitch count and can afford some mislynches
2. Do you really want BSG alive at lylo given her play this game
3. Micc's points are all completely valid
4. If you really value her input: due to the setup, she'll still get to talk to us tomorrow
Point 3 is what I was driving at with my questions to her earlier. If I were in her shoes I'd be 100% offense 0% defense since even if I was mislynched I could still help tomorrow. Only person in this game who should be super concerned about getting lynched is our last scumbud.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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supIn post 784, northsidegal wrote:maybe it just doesn't work at all on some people.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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hmm
Why would scum Cheeky want to kill him when this was his last post of the day.In post 600, UC Voyager wrote:That really would have looked scummy coming from anyone, but CheekyTeeky! In fact. It honestly makes me town read her!KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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Ok so I re-read Micc, Hopkirk and BTD6 in context of Day 1, side-by-side with Chip.
* Micc is still clearly town here. The early push on Chip was stamped by Micc Industries, he lamented later that it fell apart, and hopped back on as soon as it was viable again. In between those periods he was poking and prodding at everyone. There simply isn't a scum agenda here. If MiccTeam decided to pull off an all-day angry bus then kudos enjoy your win I ain't even mad.
* Hopkirk was a guy most of Day 1. But I think he was a town guy. There very much looks like a progression of reads on Cheeky which culminates in 398; I can grok his frustration with someone refusing to directly answer things and the fact he talks about it and continues to push it is town; scum would just cast nets elsewhere. His BTD6 push next is perfectly logical. His bounce to Chip when it occurred doesn't make a huge amount of sense from a scum perspective, there were a variety of targets he could easily have continued to counterwagon.
* Which brings us to BTD6. Chip really didn't like my naked vote on this slot, which is strange because he noted himself that BTD6 had offered the game virtually nothing. Shouldn't he be encouraging a wagon there? Especially considering that, as scum, all he really cares about is mislynching townies, so why the concern? I also noted that the only interactions between these two were to agree that my case was crap. Beyond that almost all of his "content" is avoidance.
So BTD6 is where I wanna go with my vote. Cabd we're at or extremely near endgame, I'd love for you to make with some words.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I've gone back and forth on that NK and ultimately where I landed was this: The move was so absolutely suboptimal that the only possible benefit it could have was to introduce confusion into the game, so it should simply be ignored. Corollary to that, any discussion regarding the NK should also be ignored since it's just a thousand gallon tank of wifom.In post 913, Cabd wrote:Gods, what to make of post 820. It's the only thing i'm waffly about.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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One of the major problems I have with your play this game is posts like these. I'm not here to argue theory with you or debate How Mafia Works, that's just a bunch of white noise. I'm also not terribly interested in watching you set up strawmen and gallantly knock them down.In post 928, BTD6_maker wrote:Are you assuming that just because a wagon was on scum there was no scum on it?
Secondly, are you assuming that just because Townies lynch scum, their reasoning must be solid?
You are wrong on both counts. A wagon on scum does not necessarily have to be composed entirely of Town, and the people on that wagon should not be automatically treated as unlynchable. Secondly, in this case I do indeed think that Town as a whole were right for the wrong reasons.
The purpose of my post was not to convince you that you're scum here, that's a pointless endeavor regardless of your actual alignment. I'm just giving my opinion on that particular topic, mostly for cabd's benefit. Sorry if you thought that was an opening for debate.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I gave my opinion of a specific event and how and why it occurred in this game. You took that and went full on Mafia Discussion on it. They aren't remotely related topics and I'm not going to go down that primrose path. And, again, my thoughts are going to be mostly for cabd's benefit here.
I've already touched on the topic of why I think you're scum, add "repeat myself ad nauseam" to the list of things I'm not interested in doing.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I haven't voted because I'm assuming this is lylo but lemme think out loud.
Night 1: UC Voyager slot of all people gets primed
Night 2: whoosh
Night 3:unknowngets primed
We have 5 players alive. If we mislynch today, we're down to 4. I think, regardless of whether we mislynched Night 3's primed townie, scum will prime another one. If wedidn'tlynch the primed target, then killing them Night 4 just puts us at 3. If wedidlynch the primed target then they got nothing to blow up and gotta prime again.
So I guess we're not at lylo after all. I'd still like you to weigh in but if you feel like it's better to wait a day we can do that.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I'd only be looking at D1 given how subsequent days went. I'm not expecting a major aha moment and I'm also not viewing time as a super precious commodity rn so I dunno why even if you consider it a waste I can't spend some time doing something wasteful. Suffice to say I've found it helpful in the past so if it provides even a modicum of clarify to a game I've thought was solved several times now I'm all for it.In post 993, Regfan wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of VCA in most games but in this one with only 2 scum members and a D1 scum lynch I'm even more leery of it so what particularly do you think youIn post 989, Papa Zito wrote:I went back to do VCA but the votecounts are too sparse. I'll have to manually recreate the various Day 1 wagons by hand which'll be fun. I'll work on that tonight.mightfind from it that'll be helpful in solving this? Only asking because I fear you'll come out of this learning nothing and having spent quite some time on it whereas I'd rather you spend a little of that just laying down your unfiltered thoughts of the situation at hand.
I don't know what "unfiltered thoughts" (what does that even mean) you want here. "Why the fuck isn't this game over" is basically where I'm at.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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aight prepare to be quotewalled you asked for itIn post 997, Regfan wrote:I wouldn't mind you running through why you thought Cheeky was a likely candidate for scum with Chip since you mentioned it in Post 636 and again in Post 717 and Post 826 but never really explained it at all so while we now know it's not the case I'd still like to hear what made you believe this.
Here Cheeky pre-offers an excuse during Micc's initial Chip foray. (Chip uses it in post 18)In post 16, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I wondered if he missed that rc is replacing out. We should see how long he sits on it for lol.In post 15, Micc wrote:Why aren't yall helping to wagon the guy who planted his RVS vote on a player who is replacing out and then disappeared from the thread?
Again, during Micc's initial Chip push.In post 26, CheekyTeeky wrote:Wow micc are you always so LAMIST?
Part of what made them mixed is they did have some minor back-and-forths midday. 253-255, 317-321, 371-379. Nothing major (no votes, no push) but it did seem like Cheeky was casting about a bit.
This was her reaction to another Micc vs Chip scuffle.In post 334, CheekyTeeky wrote:This feels like TvT...just saying.
530ish is where the flashwagon to Chip happens that leads to his lynch. Cheeky disappears for quite some time until:
Yet again, defending the Chip slot. It's a hell of a reaction, especially after her last encounter with Chip wasIn post 597, CheekyTeeky wrote:Lol just joking. Seriously wtf people get off Chip. The whole case is bad and I know Cabd better be reaction testing when he helped build the wagon or else he doesn't actually read the thread and needs to be ignored. NSG spotted the gaping logical flaws in Papa's case and she fell into the background. This is the strongest proof to me so far that she's either town or scum distancing, but we won't know until Papa flips. For now I'm going to say she's town.
Please can we have some more unvotes. Chip you neglected my slot in your updated reads.
UNVOTE:
There is scum on this wagon, I can smell it.
That progression didn't grok at all.In post 371, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oh no are you scum chip?
So my feeling from her was she was perfectly willing to sling a little mud at him but nothing serious, while simultaneously defending him from attacks.
I'll get to your 910 thing in a bit.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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hiIn post 1033, Regfan wrote:@Zito
I fold- You call
yes thatthat
For me that was a quote wall. I'm not gonna go full Mastin on anyonea quote wall
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oh ho ho you call those wallers, get your shit together Regfan we all know who Captain Wallpost is.MoI and RC
Do they even exist. Do I even exist. Are we all just a random assortment of atoms that happened to come close enough together to briefly swirl about in a state we tell ourselves is "consciousness" but is really just a passing whiff of the True Scent of the Universe?would be
If you'd met either one of those you'd know that was their default statevery disappointed
Don't wanna wait till tomorrow.right now.
By themselves sure, but they a) became something of a pattern, and 2) were completely unnecessary from someone who seemed at least vaguely suspicious of Chip throughout the day if not outright sus as depicted in that quote.The early semi-defenses of Cheeky feel like a really really flimsy reason to think they're linked there.
Can I get one of these in English?Did you take a look at her thinking that Cabd had scum slipped and the way she went into explaining that when you'd scum read her or at any point? Would like to hear how you thought that came from scum.
I took a gander at 910 and it's a fine piece of work. What precisely is your beef with my Hopkirk bit?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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I'm not sure why you're so impressed with that series of posts given it was completely wrong.In post 1040, Regfan wrote:so yeah, what made you think the below came from scum?
But to answer your question: I had the benefit of subbing in after the big reveal + cabd's thorough debunking. I've also seen scum attempt "gotchas" in the past in the name of scumhunting. I didn't think there was anything particularly town about any of that at all.
In 247 Hopkirk says he wants info from BTD. That's because BTD has done Jack and his cousin Shit all game at that point. BTD disappears on V/LA until 383, and when pressed about reads, finally drops this bombshell:As for your Post 910 it's the Hopkirk read I'd like to see a little more explained about since you seem to think his BTD push is and timing is perfectly logical whereas I'm looking at it and reading it as very unnatural there. So what about it did you like exactly at the time and what's your thoughts on itnow?
This post is a solid 0/10 on the Helpfulness scale and absolutely begs to be pushed. It's unacceptable at that stage of the game to both be a completely null presence AND not cooperate.In post 424, BTD6_maker wrote:
I have skimmed the game.In post 422, Micc wrote:Let's start with these:
Have you read the game?
Who do you want lynched today?
I cannot say I want any one person lynched at the moment. My reads are still very weak and flexible. I will be able to give a better answer later today, perhaps. I do have a very weak scumread on the CheekyTeeky slot, but that slot is being replaced and I will have to read the replacement.
Oh look Hopkirk agrees. Micc is also pushing BTD to do something anything please God help because the alternative is, what, listen to a bunch of useless pontificating?In post 425, Hopkirk wrote:Not much point leaving my vote where it is when it’s waiting for a replacement.
VOTE: BTD6
383 – Gives light scumread on Cheeky, doesn’t follow it with a vote, and promises more content later.
421 - Two days later. No further catch up. Follows up slightly on Cheeky but no vote. Complains about activity (kind of ironically).
Don’t really like the entrance. Both those posts look longish, but have no significant content in them. I could very easily see the Cheeky vote as a bus.
So yeh 100% logical. Clearly one of the two in that scenario has to be scum so it's a scum player also recognizing that a push there makes excellent sense, time to do things that look town but that doesn't detract from the argument any.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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That answer was pure avoidance. It offers asingle"very weak scumread" and says answers will be forthcoming.... "perhaps". Given at that point BTD6 had made 5/421 posts (so close) in the whole goddamn game holy hell yes some pressure was absolutely warranted. The game was way too content rich for that post to be viable. I noted this when I replaced in. In what universe is pressuring a 0 content slot a bad thing?
Can I again mention your boy Micc also dropped a vote at this very time and pressured BTD6 as well?Are they both scum here Regfan or are you not reading this with a clear head?
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It comes directly after BTD6 comes back from V/LA and makes a couple giant empty nothing posts.In post 1046, Regfan wrote:What I'm trying to get at is that if you actually open up Hopkirks ISO and look through his reads and thoughts in the day and the progression behind them the BTD one comes out of nowhere.
I am completely lost how this is confusing.
So are we talking about reasoning or timing. I thought your beef was the timing.Look at the reasoning he's presented for the vote, then look at how much (if not all) of that reasoning could be attributed to Chip there and it's bad, add to that the fact that a decent chunk of the reasoning behind the BTD vote just doesn't make sense (Didn't vote Cheeky in his recent post due to replacing out v Hopkirk unvoting Cheeky due to replacing out), like if I'm looking at this reasoning behind his vote the only way I buy it is if he's town and really was confident in Cheeky being scum and was using interaction stuff to convince himself that BTD was more likely due to it but that's a read that'd be attached to him so others looking at that reasoning and calling it good is concerning particularly later in the game when reassessment should have kicked in.
If it's suddenly not the timing then what, are you questioning why I didn't go after Hopkirk for that one post? It's probably because before today I didn't know BTD was town and I'm not a terribly good revisionist historian and also north/cheeky were things that had to be dealt with for reasons I think we're all tired of hearing about?KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.- Papa Zito
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This is my last post on this topic because I'm sick of discussing it and you keep moving the goalposts.In post 1049, Regfan wrote:So I'm looking at the, vote and the timing of it and scratching my head and am unsure why you haven't/aren't doing so too.
1. The vote and timing and reasoning and everything having to do with anything about that post were 0 issue on Day 1 because I wanted Chip dead and he died.
2. The vote and timing and reasoning and everything having to do with anything about that post were 0 issue on Day 2 because north was next most likely partner to Chip.
3. The vote and timing and reasoning and everything having to do with anything about that post were 0 issue on Day 3 because Cheeky was next most likely partner to Chip.
4. The vote and timing and reasoning and everything having to do with anything about that post were 0 issue on Day 4 because BTD was still here doing fuckall in the game other than moaning about Micc and was either scum or a giant liability (see: performance thus far today)
5. The vote and timing and reasoning and everything having to do with anything about that post has been 0 issue Day 5 becauseYou asked me why I had no issue with the timing of that post. I've answered that question a hundred times now. If I was in the game at the time I'd have done the exact same thing. Reads on other players don't fucking matter because
they were actually giving content in the game.
Congratulations you've managed to frustrate the ever loving fuck out of me as confirmed town. As a reminder, I'm not making a post on this subject again, I don't care what you have to say on it or how scummy you decide it makes me.KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity. - Papa Zito
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