Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection
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@mod In addition it appears from the role pm's that were provided that Secret Agents do not have a private topic to speak in, is this correct? And in addition, if the answer to the first question results in the goons not knowing the secret agents identities, what would occur if a Goon were to night kill a Secret Agent?In post 191, InactionDan wrote:@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?- Rautherdir
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I mean I would agree...In post 214, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:
I feel like this is scum signalling to their buddies.In post 203, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Yeah I know...In post 201, Ginngie wrote:You're not making a very good impression >:(
But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie
But town doesn't know how the Traitor roles work yet. Or even whether scum have daychat or not. As far as we know scum wouldn't need to signal to their buddies.- Rautherdir
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Yeah but what if it isn't.
My point exactly.Mikan Tsumiki wrote:
The traitor would know imoIn post 216, Rautherdir wrote:But town doesn't know how the Traitor roles work yet.
My point being that I think you are scum and thus know how it works.- Rautherdir
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I had that problem on my phone, but at a computer I can see it.In post 234, checkersman7 wrote:
it's not visibleIn post 225, Ginngie wrote:
it has a reindeer lapel and a reindeer tie for Christmas seasonIn post 221, checkersman7 wrote:I totally missed there were not PT links in half the scum PMs. anyway, lets wait for the mod and stop mechanics speccing yes.
more important business
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I'm not saying it only affects mobile, just saying try a different device/browser.In post 236, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I’m on mobile and I can see it just fine.- Rautherdir
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In post 238, Rautherdir wrote:
I'm not saying it only affects mobile, just saying try a different device/browser.In post 236, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I’m on mobile and I can see it just fine.
Well... I mean you could try my suggestion maybe?In post 239, checkersman7 wrote:I can't see it and i care
Well, okay then, go ahead. I don't actually see how that is a townslip though.In post 240, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:In post 232, Rautherdir wrote:p-edit:
You know, the fact that this is a sequel to another game completely slipped my mind.
I buy the townslipIn post 233, Rautherdir wrote:I deleted what I originally had in that post. I just realized you might have also made the assumption it worked like it had in the previous game, and thus my point no longer holds to a degree I trust.- Rautherdir
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In post 243, Rautherdir wrote: -snip-
Well, okay then, go ahead. I don't actually see how that is a townslip though.In post 240, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:In post 232, Rautherdir wrote:p-edit:
You know, the fact that this is a sequel to another game completely slipped my mind.
I buy the townslipIn post 233, Rautherdir wrote:I deleted what I originally had in that post. I just realized you might have also made the assumption it worked like it had in the previous game, and thus my point no longer holds to a degree I trust.
Okay, but I already said that. Well said something along the same lines, but whatever.In post 247, Transcend wrote:
That's not a town slip btwIn post 240, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:In post 232, Rautherdir wrote:p-edit:
You know, the fact that this is a sequel to another game completely slipped my mind.
I buy the townslipIn post 233, Rautherdir wrote:I deleted what I originally had in that post. I just realized you might have also made the assumption it worked like it had in the previous game, and thus my point no longer holds to a degree I trust.
A better response would be to explain why you thought it was a townslip.Mikan Tsumiki wrote:I'm sorry! We tend to disagree a lot on things! Brainwash me!
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No.
Anyone who asks for a claim, or claims will get my undying condemnation. If you cannot convince us you are town by your play, you deserve it.
VOTE: Group C- Rautherdir
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No, after a review of the rules the PR should not claim, ever. Therefore the only alternative is to lynch all claims.In post 362, checkersman7 wrote:
....yes, by the real town PRIn post 361, Bulbazak wrote:And even if he's scum who claims town PR, do you really think he'll get CC?- Rautherdir
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Where's the "haven't played in a while" option?
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Okay chesskid. I've been thinking, and how about a compromise.
1. Standard "Do not hammer until Claim/Last words" applies. And by standard, I mean you get lynched if you quickhammer.
2. People should try and keep track of how many votes it takes to lynch someone, preferably something like VOTE: Group C(L-2)
3. Therefore people should not have an excuse that they didn't see it. That also means no quick-posting votes when someone is at L-3 and lower.
4. If someone claims a town PR, one of the following applies:
a. Today: They will not be lynched. Any counterclaim will be treated as false.
b. Before Day 3: They will be forced to give a list of results. Only counterclaim if you have a guilty that was not likely to be tampered with.
c. After Day 3: They will be forced to give a list of results. Counterclaim is more or less mandatory at this point except in extenuating circumstances (i.e You are the last PR, no scum have been lynched, and every other PR is dead. Basically, everything is falling apart and being able to get more guilties is worth more than immediately exposing a mafia member.) After day 3, past claims should get CC'd at this point.
These are what I really want, though if someone gives me a good reason not to go with this I can try and fix it. I mean, I will probably continue working on these anyways. I am open for negotiation about this, you just have to actually talk and not scream.
On a side note, no one seems to want Group A. I can't really figure out why.
And game theory questions for everyone: What is the best way for town to benefit from the Groups system? Should we focus on a single group? Spread the attention evenly? Our town PRs have different abilities depending on group size, should we try and get a town PR of each ability? On the other hand, Traitors have different abilities based on group size, should we focus on getting/keeping them to their weakest?- Rautherdir
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I don't know why someone would, just making sure people understand what would happen if they did.In post 448, EddieFenix wrote:Rauth, open set up yo, what -townie/scum PR- in their right mind is going to go "I'm the PR of group Z?!"- Rautherdir
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Okay, a few things then:
First of all, you didn't do the Monty Hall problem correctly, checkersman. You have to specify that you know what is in the boxes, because if you don't know which box is the correct box the odds are 1/2. If you do know, then assuming you always offer a switch and always avoid revealing the correct prize, the odds are 1/3 if Eddie stayed, and 2/3 if he switches.
Second, there are no hydras allowed in this game, Creature.
Third, I may have missed questions asked to me since I last posted.- Rautherdir
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Transcend, why the townread on Snarky? I seem to recall this being his posting style in Night and Day
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Yeah, this probably is town Creature. Hope your cut heals up well Rach, and make sure to clean it and change the bandage every day if you're worried about infection.
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I'll work on my own reads soon, I have a paper due in a few days that I haven't even started first.- Rautherdir
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I mean, we could just use the vote tags too.In post 1098, Transcend wrote:Also all group B members please use the HURT: tag to designate who you want out most since... you kinda don't have a vote and I like to know where everyone's head is at.
Fun fact: you can set different themes for different accounts.In post 1161, Elliberetta wrote:i ifnally remembered to log into this account on the first try hurray
I agree with Thor here. The game may start like three 5-2 minis, but every time town wins in one of the groups, the remainder is given to the remaining groups. Including any power roles if there are any left by that point.In post 1191, Thor665 wrote:
No it can't.In post 1180, Elliberetta wrote:this game is practically three 5-2 minis and can be treated more of as such.
And even if I were to accept that claim - feel free to explain the scumhunting possible in the group vote section.
Like, explain how scum are motivated and how you can possibly track that at this stage.
I'll wait.
Umm... None of the above. I've played with momo before (I think) but that would be all of my experience (As far as I can remember)In post 1194, Creature wrote:If anyone's here, answer: Which of {Majiffy, Thor665, momo, ConManMick} can you sort easier?
That said I actually have time to play now that my paper is done. So, I'll go do reads eventually (Within the next 2 days)- Rautherdir
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Uh... Pretty sure we actually want to kill both of the scum in each group. That way we should have more confirmed town.In post 1207, checkersman7 wrote:
???? this is why we lynch 1 scum from each group ans then proceed to the next groupIn post 1202, Rautherdir wrote:I agree with Thor here. The game may start like three 5-2 minis, but every time town wins in one of the groups, the remainder is given to the remaining groups. Including any power roles if there are any left by that point.
Also Creature, what about whoever we lynch and whoever is night killed? They won't get a vote.- Rautherdir
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