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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:57 pm

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Chickadee
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Derpy Hooves
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Mumble
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Tchill13
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sheepssaymeep
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Porkens
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Dunkerdoodles
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Animetrix
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wavemode
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Nauci
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Xiao Long
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Wossi
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Post Post #58 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:02 am

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Chickadee - Looks actually curious and uninformed about things. Genuine.
4

Derpy Hooves - Similar to Mulch’s game in play style, no real scum benefit with posts.
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Mumble - Hi.
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Tchill13
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sheepssaymeep
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Porkens - Accidentally destructive town Porkens or scum?
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Dunkerdoodles
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Animetrix
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Nauci - Tone.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:54 am

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[quote="In post 58, Flavor Leaf"]
Chickadee
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Derpy Hooves
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Mumble
1

Tchill13
4

sheepssaymeep
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Porkens
2

Dunkerdoodles
3

Animetrix
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wavemode
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Nauci
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Xiao Long
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Wossi
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Post Post #212 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:06 pm

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Chickadee
4

Derpy Hooves
4

Mumble
1

Tchill13
4

sheepssaymeep
3

Porkens
2

Dunkerdoodles - He’s got that fire.
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Animetrix - so I thought about it, and I was going to move him up, but at the same time he there’s no reason as to why any of the stuff he stated couldn’t have come from scum. I don’t know him really, though, so I don’t know if it doesn’t make sense for him to play that way as scum. Does it, animetrix?
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wavemode - the Tchill naked vote is actually what I’d expect of Wave here.
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Nauci
4

Xiao Long
2

Wossi - I understand the scum reads, and I still don’t think he’s town by any means, but there is now more doubt. I think he has been reacting in a pretty towny way in response to the neighbors and explaining his vote.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:19 pm

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Mumble - Hi/opportunistic vote/potential chainsaw.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:46 am

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VOTE: Porkens

I’m not going to have much time today or tomorrow, but I will get to this game.

I think Porkens is scum taking advantage for a mislynch on Wossi.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 378, Wossi wrote:Also for a gamble to work it needs to not be blatantly obviously a gamble.....that was weird Xiao and I don't know what you were expecting....
I disagree with this sentiment.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:44 pm

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I forgot to VLA, but I’ll be back tomorrow.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #8) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:08 pm

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Can someone vote me to give me some pressure? I want some pressure.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #9) » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:40 pm

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I don’t think Wossi is scum. I think he’s the mislynch candidate.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:10 am

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VOTE: Wavemode

I think this is actually scum strategically staying off the main wagons...
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Post Post #819 (isolation #11) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:49 am

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I only broke from the table temporarily. Been phone posting past few days. I’ll get back there to do my heavy lifting.

@Wave - Circular reasoning doesn’t mean incorrect reasoning. I generally feel like circular reasoning defense applies more towards TvS because the town accusing can be completely correct, but scum get the “yeah, but if was town, then it makes you scum” kind of deal. Not saying that’s what this is, but I am curious about you.
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Post Post #825 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:40 am

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In post 824, wavemode wrote:
In post 819, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Wave - Circular reasoning doesn’t mean incorrect reasoning. I generally feel like circular reasoning defense applies more towards TvS because the town accusing can be completely correct, but scum get the “yeah, but if was town, then it makes you scum” kind of deal. Not saying that’s what this is, but I am curious about you.
Well, it wasn't a defense. I'm not going to defend not voting Wossi. Why should I?

I'm just curious of why this is the angle you're pushing, and where this scumread is really coming from
It’s really just basic stuff that doesn’t directly incriminate you, but I have a gut feeling that you are scum off the wagons is all. I’ve stated that I think the main two are mislynches. Just interacting with you because I started to feel like you were scum. I don’t see anything curious about that. Not really an angle being pushed. I don’t know what you mean by “really coming from”, I feel I’m being straight forward with it.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:04 pm

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Guys, wossi’s just scummy town.

I keep looking at his posts, and he’s very the epitome of mislynch bait.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:01 am

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If I can’t get to this game, I’ll replace, but I have hopes I can...
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #15) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:12 pm

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VOTE: Tchill

Pretty similar to how he was Day 1 targeting Mumble in Carcalilly’s game.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #16) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:12 pm

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In post 1183, Animetrix wrote:Still think Xiao is the best lynch today, unless someone can change my mind somehow.
Yeah, no. Xiao was mislynch bait just likeWossi.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #17) » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:19 pm

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In post 1187, Porkens wrote:Tchill is town af to me.

VOTE: tchill
I still think Porkens is scum, by the way, as this furthers it more.
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:52 am

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VOTE: Lord Gurgi

I don’t believe that all scum were on the Also wagon, based on the fact that XL had been setup for a mislynch, and then wavemode died. It makes me feel XL is town, as I stated a little bit Day 1 after the initial push on him, which leaves me to believe either Lord or Animetrix is scum. I’m leaning Lord.
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:53 am

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In post 1226, Apple Jack wrote:Dave and flavor, need more content from you guys.
chick is probably scum but i don't really know how to verbalize it.
XL sadly I think is just trolling town and his antics day 1 distracted us but I have no qualms hammering him like I did wossi.

gurgi/chick are who I am liking for scum right now. the 3rd is kind of hard for me but i feel good about the first 2
Interesting. Looks like Derpy is on the same page.

I could see Chick scum, but Dave/Tchill is probably where it’s at along with Lord.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:19 am

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Derpy is blatantly town. I don’t even have the words to explain it. He’s just blatantly town.
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #21) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:19 am

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People are pushing him because he has an abrasive personality, but his actual play is blatantly town.
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #22) » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:23 am

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Derpy always shuts down dumb play and reaction test play styles and pushes it, even if he ends up thinking the player is town do it, there’s that part of him that wants to lynch those players to spite it. I don’t see why that’s scummy.
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:45 am

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@Dave - I’m Boon; why do you think I’d have actively more town stuff stayed.

I’m actually on a major site wide lull is all. Film life is booming in the Bay Area right now, so a lot of work opportunities.

Anywho, I’m coming around on Porkens possibly being town, I’ve taken advantage of his mislynches before as scum, and this is the first time I’m actually town and witnessing Porkens, so I think he’s town.

Animetrix makes me think that Dunker is actually town, although Dunker generally has some fire to him when he’s town, and I’m not seeing that right now. Nonetheless, i don’t really feel dunker is the best lynch today either.

I generally think XL is town due to the mislynch candidacy and the end of Day 1 VCA.

Today, I’d like to go Gurgi or Animetrix.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:46 am

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@Nauci - I dropped it because I’m on a site wide lull where I check up like every two days at the moment, and not for too long, so I’m just trying to post what i can when I can for now.
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:34 am

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My avatar? All my avatars on my accounts are smug and obnoxious just like me.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #26) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:36 am

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In post 1549, Porkens wrote:
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Xiao Long
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Chickadee
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sheepsaysmeep Lord Gurgi
Mumble davesaz
Da hell.
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #27) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:37 am

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@Nauci - Gurgi and Animetrix are my scum reads. Derpy and XL are my town reads.
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #28) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:03 pm

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Ah man, Tchill, you really are scum, aren’t you? Haha.
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #29) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:04 pm

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In post 1726, Tchill13 wrote:also paranoid that scum is just chilling. XL, Flavor, dunk, gurgi all come to mind.
Alright, so Gurgi and Tchill scum. Got it.
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #30) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:05 pm

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Derpy, you’re good. I’ll take your place now.
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Post Post #1734 (isolation #31) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:07 pm

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I’m going to get fear killed pretty soon. I feel it coming. I feeel it comin. Flavor leaf late entrance is scary as hell, I get it. When I pounce, scum’s goin’ down.
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Post Post #1735 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:10 pm

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Nauci is town for legit frustration mixed in with sensible pushes and understanding why she went a lot of the ways she’s gone.

Derpy is town for being pushed so hard for NAI things in conjunction of meta and trajectory of everything.

Porkens is town because I’ve targeted Porkens for mislynches when I’m scum, but this is the first time I’m town and get to see it potentially happen like this, and this is classic mislynchable town Porkens.

XL was a mislynch wagon that scum chose to sit on so they all wouldn’t be on wossi. I wouldn’t be surprised if only one scum wasn’t on Wossi, tbh.
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Post Post #1736 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:13 pm

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Dunker has been on all easy wagons, like wossi, Derpy, and XL, but honestly, i think that leads to townDunker. I don’t see him calling out Tchill’s scummy post, and the Porkens, Tchill, Chick scum team he proposed seems like solid townDunk, and he generally actually hits scum, but nobody ever listens to him. So I’m thinking he hit Tchill there.
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:15 pm

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Leaves Chick, Tchill, Lord, Animetrix, and Dave. Solid. I don’t think the team is Lord, Animetrix, Tchill, so I think I want to take out Animetrix from that. Dave or Chick is the last scum.
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:16 pm

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Also, Tchill, I’m probably a loyal role who got a no result on you last night, so, yeah. Thoughts?
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Post Post #1739 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:20 pm

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Another thing for townXL...I’m the only one who would be foolish enough to take on Derpy day 1 as scum.
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:22 pm

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Chick is probably the last scum. I replaced into Derpy’s slot in that 13 reasons game, and they were neighbor’d with Chick, and Chick pretty confidently town read Derpy. Not going to push this as a reason, but Chick seemed like she could read his slot fairly easy as town, so this seems a bit forced to me. Again, won’t use this as a reason, but food for thought, especially post game for meta on Chick.
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #38) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:32 pm

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Okay, yeah. Looking back into Tchill’s ISO, this is classic ScumTchill with partner Chickadee. Notice how he votes on Chickadee with a very noncommittal push, albeit obviously taking stance against Chick, then goes on to a brand new wagon, and completely changes even after nothing about said bus vote changed. I actually might start calling that the Tchill Distance Theory, the TDT for short.
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #39) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:33 pm

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Gurgi might be town, but if that’s the case, I’d probably throw Dunker back in the mix, but who knows. I think I’d put Animetrix in over Gurgi, just based off of gut and tchill’s semi interactions with Anime.
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #40) » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:34 pm

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You know what, Dunker, you’re solid town. You called out Tchill/Chick, and I see you nailing scum left and right but nobody listens to you. That’s the team. Locking it in with you. I don’t think you’re right on Porkens, though.

VOTE: Tchill
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:04 am

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I don’t think I freaked out at all. I think i legit just started solving the game is all.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:03 pm

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In post 1781, Tchill13 wrote:why should i be willing to run up chick to a lynch atm in this game even if im fairly confident shes scum but im unsure about one third of the rest of the players?
VOTE: Chickadee

Willing to play dick chicken with this.
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:41 am

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Man, my reads are fire this game.
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:47 am

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Porkens may have been crumbing a Tchill inno, but he did say he had nothing in one of his early posts, so likely he got a no result.

Animetrix was lowkey chainsawing Tchill early Day 2 to me, though.

However, Porkens makes sense as a kill of “Tchill wouldn’t kill there” so that’s why he would kill there, but Animetrix was on the wagon, and they decided to shoot on the wago, with people like myself and Derpy being obvious town at this point. Dunker I’d say as well.

It actually seems like it leads towards scum off the wagon, and not Xiao based on Animetrix actions.
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:50 am

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Actually, if Tchill is scum, Xiao was on a very opportune wagon.

Also, Animetrix questioned me on why i thought XL was a mislynch, which is decent distancing.

I actually think it is XL now. Gurgi and Chickadee were on the same wagon, and i don’t see them pairing up like that.

Nauci has seemed town to me for a while.

And Dave is just Dave. If he’s scum, he’s basically lost already. :lol:
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:50 am

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VOTE: Xiao
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:52 am

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I think the right plan is going Xiao —>Dave —>Tchill path. That should win us he game, especially if we get another vig shot somewhere, possibly Nauci/Gurgi who are less likely to be lynched, with a smaller chance of being scum. The other three can be lynched with ease, I feel.
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:16 am

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In post 1843, Tchill13 wrote:Oh yeah and how about that possible guilty from flavor on me now that an investigative role has flipped?
I wasn’t serious...-.- It was a play on our last game, where I also wasn’t serious...:lol:

I’m pretty sure I’m basically conf town at this point.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:17 am

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I literally led the lynch on Chickadee in favor of pushing Tchill. Only makes sense if I was scum with Tchill also.
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #50) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:19 am

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In post 1737, Flavor Leaf wrote:Leaves Chick, Tchill, Lord, Animetrix, and Dave. Solid. I don’t think the team is Lord, Animetrix, Tchill, so I think I want to take out Animetrix from that. Dave or Chick is the last scum.

I’ve had Chick and Animetrix, I was against your guys’ lynch on Wossi.

For some reason, my town games on flavor are fire. I’m 80% sure XL is just the last scum
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #51) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:22 am

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I also pointed out that Porkens was town when he was in prime mislynch territory, and I pushed Chick/Tchill duo.

I seriously can’t see how I’m even still in the running for scum.

I’m actually pretty okay saying Tchill is town, though, so how about I replace you on my plan, deal? I really don’t want to go through what I had to with LQ here.
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:23 am

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In post 1847, Tchill13 wrote:I've been suspicious of XL for a while and after a quick glance at anime I can see why you'd think xl was scum.
I agree that Dave could be the last scum, but I think it’s more likely XL.
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #53) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:24 am

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I wanna say i’m like...90% confident that the last scum is in there....? And that’s because I don’t want to seem too arrogant.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #54) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:24 am

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In post 1850, Tchill13 wrote:As for ppl stating they're conf town... It leaves a bad taste in my mouth lol. I can see you being town here but I'm making sure it's an unbiased view.
I’m not conf town. I’m obv town. Difference. The unbiased view I am town here. You have a biased view of me, so you’re paranoid of me.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #55) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:27 am

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What scum motivation would I have to kill Porkens and then not go after you?

I’m not just saying I’m obv town. I hate it when people say that kind of thing. I’m literally explaining and showing exactly why I am town, because I’m trying to get the fellow town members to see that I am town, which is what you are supposed to do as town; get people to town read you. People seem to forget about this.

I’m 100% sure Derpy is town. Pretty sure I’ve been staying this all game.
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #56) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 1855, Tchill13 wrote:So can you explain dunkers play and why he's town for sure?
He’s Dunker, and he went on Chickadee for no reason when he could have been on literally anyone but Chickadee for no reason.
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:30 am

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as town, Dunker does that pool thing he did, actually believes it, and usually has it be correct. Chickadee was indeed scum, and indeed there was only 1 scum in the three he stated, which is completely correct. That’s what town dunkers does.
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #58) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:31 am

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Tchill, Derpy, Dunker are my solid town now that I’m getting some more Tchill stuff. Gurgi/Nauci are town, but I’m not as confident as the other two, but I’d still confidently say they are town. Leaves XL and Dave.
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Post Post #1864 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:34 am

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Porkens was likely a frame kill to get people to either push Tchill, and I was pretty hard defending Porkens.
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:37 am

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Should we have the vig claim? We’d get another townie, but then we’d likely only get one more shot, which isn’t the end of the world.

We had a Mafia gunsmith, so we basically know that it’s a big and not an SK, but I’m paranoid of SK after that one large game, and it would stop that from ever happening. I think I know who it is, but I wouldn’t put down money on it.
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #61) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:38 am

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In post 1866, Tchill13 wrote:Ew Dave literally any other vote would have made you look better lol
Yeah, but I think Dave is just misguided and lost town. Regardless, he can’t make endgame, but I think the game just ends after XL, tbh.
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #62) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:39 am

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If Tchill was scum, I would have died. Pretty sure of it in this case, but because I lived and Porkens died, I expect that scum expected me to tunnel Tchill.
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #63) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:42 am

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In post 143, Xiao Long wrote:I want more from Chickendee, he’s coasting now
In post 245, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 241, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 232, Xiao Long wrote:Derpy does scum have day chat?
Yes
Hm, not what I was looking for. Towny enough response I guess.
In post 240, Wossi wrote:If Derpy's town, there's a chance the meta of "two-man neighborhood has one town and one scum" tainted his read on me from the very beginning.

I really don't like how Animetrix indirectly asks town to confirm his thoughts in so many of his posts. Like nervous scum trying find reassurance that they're blending in.
Seeming more likely a tvt situation between you two.

Animetrix also doesn’t vote me for whatever reason despite apparently being her number 1 scumspect.
VOTE: Animetrix
Anime gimme some realness

Yeah, XL is scum. Look how he’s distancing with his partners early on. Making sure to push/scum read them in the open, or at least state that you are weary, but basically helps them get out of it by doing it in a way where if they step up, the read will change.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:53 am

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He is. :lol:

Dave should know to trust me at this point. I caught him out in a recent game in a similar way.
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:55 am

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In post 18, Chickadee wrote:With the most votes, I am the most popular.

VOTE: Xiao Long
Level 2's must die


But really, what was that table?
Chickadee’s opening RVS vote was on XL, too. And Chick commented on a vote count error to make sure it was noted that XL was the one she was voting. Don’t push that further, that’s a circular reasoning discussion, but I’m just painting a picture.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:56 am

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I don’t think it was poor scum play. I thought he was a mislynch for a bit, so it kind of worked. We’re just POEing the field.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #67) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:58 am

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In post 154, Chickadee wrote:
In post 143, Xiao Long wrote:I want more from Chickendee, he’s coasting now
She


And ya know, I was just looking at my post count thinking the same thing.

I tend not to post for the sake of posting though. You'll here from me when I have something to say.

Also, there's one slot we haven't heard from at all, so why are you calling me out?
In post 171, Chickadee wrote:So, question to the group here. Do we see Wossi and XL both being scum?
In post 178, Chickadee wrote:Yea, that's straight up scum back pedaling in the hood.

VOTE: Wossi

We do still have a lot of day left though.
This is awkward. Why bring up an inconsistency with XL’s play, only to move over to the leading lynch wossi whom I believe XL was going towards too, while still staying the lynch route should be either Wossi or XL.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #68) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:00 am

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In post 1879, Xiao Long wrote:I guess FL could possibly be scum for this push, but I’m more confident with LG or Dave
This is why this is likely scum. What about this push could make me possibly scum? To me, feels as if there are plenty of reasons to believe I am correct about you being scum, and I’d think even if you were town, you would see that. Would be more like a “okay, I know what it looks like...but I’m actually town.” Kind of defense rather than a noncommittal OMGUS defense. I think even a more committal omgus would be better.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 1878, Xiao Long wrote:You guys are really bad at analyzing shit. With FL’s logic, literally anyone who voted Anime or Chick could be called out for distancing. :roll:

That said, I don’t think the last scum would be on the wagon along with Anime, so lynch should be among LG, Dave, myself and Nauci (I think?)
Also, on this, you basically stated my two preferred lynches plus the two I’d like to have vigged. I like vig’s Shooting from the middle down on their reads.
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:17 am

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I mean, if you are actually town, then you are doing a poor job at trying to get us to see that, which immediately will have us see it as scum trying to discredit. You aren’t even scum reading us, so i feel like you should want to work with us and get us to see if you are town. Hell, that’s probably the better scum play too, but I can see why you’d choose the discredit route.
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:31 pm

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I was thinking that Lord was vig.

And I’m RC’s hero; says so in my sig. He’s never even read me correctly, and I’ve had many games with him post game where I was correct, and he was the reason we were wrong.

I can go Dave first with this info.
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:31 pm

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If he’s not scum, Xiao can shoot me.
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #73) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:32 pm

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In post 1914, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 1868, Flavor Leaf wrote:Should we have the vig claim? We’d get another townie, but then we’d likely only get one more shot, which isn’t the end of the world.

We had a Mafia gunsmith, so we basically know that it’s a big and not an SK, but I’m paranoid of SK after that one large game, and it would stop that from ever happening. I think I know who it is, but I wouldn’t put down money on it.
Gunsmith doesn’t eliminate the likelihood of a sk btw but I’m leaning more towards vig
Eh, Mafia gunsmith does, or else it just gets cop.
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:33 pm

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In post 1918, Tchill13 wrote:I think the fact that chickadee died so quickly after derpy/flavor leaf / and myself discussed it so much means that scum bussed.
Well, yes. Anime is dead already.
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:33 pm

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VOTE: Dave
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:35 pm

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In post 1926, Xiao Long wrote::roll:

Fine
I’m a novice vig. No action night one, shot Anime night two cause of wagon analysis.

Now one of two things are going to happen:
1. Y’all aren’t going to believe me and y’all will lynch me (probably most likely given how fucking trash everyone’s played today)
2. Y’all will believe me and I’ll be NK’d.

This is why I didn’t want to claim. It’s literally useless for me to do so.
Eh, no one’s played like trash. You were scummy, so we pushed. Just shoot me tonight, makes it easier, we kill Dave here today.

My reads have been 100% come time of flip thus far. As per usual on my flavor leaf.
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:38 pm

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I’m VT, by the way. So shooting me won’t lose a PR.
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #78) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:38 pm

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You’d see much more potential crumbing in my posts if I were a PR/scum.
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #79) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:04 pm

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In post 1947, davesaz wrote:"novice" vig? What does novice mean?
Can’t shoot night 1.
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:28 am

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I wasn’t just sitting back. I was actively stating Wossi was mislynch bait.
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:59 am

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In post 1979, Apple Jack wrote:
In post 1978, Flavor Leaf wrote:I wasn’t just sitting back. I was actively stating Wossi was mislynch bait.
But that’s something you could do as scum. I think that’s kind of the point.
Sure, but he was stating I was just sitting back, which wasn’t the case.

I don’t know. If I was scum, I played a pretty poor game this game. Good thing that’s not the case, and I’ll be happy to flip and prove I had a great town game this game.
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:02 am

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I was against both Wossi and XL lynches early, XL changed because I thought I was picking up LG vig. I was stating this was Porkens town. I pushed Chick hard, and was stating Animetrix was scum for a long while. The only thing I’ve been pseudo wrong about was ScumTchill, but I changed that today after the Porkens kill.
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #83) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:03 am

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I don’t know how else you guys want me to prove I’m town. If I scum hunt, boom, he’s scum, if I read people out as town, boom, I’m manipulative
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #84) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:03 am

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In post 1982, Apple Jack wrote:Even if you flip town I wouldn’t say you had a great game.
I would. My reads have been fire.
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #85) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:04 am

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You just wouldn’t say I had a great game, because that’s you. I’ve lowkey had a near perfect game.
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #86) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:05 am

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As per the usual, on Flavor Leaf.
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #87) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:31 am

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In post 1987, Tchill13 wrote:News flash having a "good game" or not doesn't matter. Winning or losing is what matters.
Yep, and I’m on my way to bringing this town to victory. Was hardcore right on 2 scum and multiple town already.
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:32 am

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In post 1988, Tchill13 wrote:Anyways please don't wait for someone to vote you before you become more active next time.
That’s what I do. I caught two scum that way.
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:32 am

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I don’t come into some games on Flavor until even later.
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #90) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:35 am

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That’s how I always become active...?
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Post Post #1996 (isolation #91) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:36 am

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It got me to town read XL, so successful push.
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #92) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:36 am

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That’s what pushing should do. Help people get accurate reads.
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #93) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:37 am

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I would have preferred not to even come into the game as early as I did, to be honest. But I started to see scum connections and pounced. I rallied up the Chick wagon you guys were all wobbling with.
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #94) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:42 am

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Yeah, you enabled the game solver. I’d give props to that, don’t be so modest.
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #95) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:43 am

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I always defend Dunker unless I think he’s scum, which I do generally turn and go on him for a little.
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Post Post #2004 (isolation #96) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:44 am

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In post 2001, Tchill13 wrote:It's not confirmed 3 scum either. I could see a scenario where dunk and flavor are the last 2 scum due to flavors defense of dunk. Wouldn't it be more likely there's 4 scum anyway because of the "backup" modifier?
No. 1 kill night 1, 2 Night 2.
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Post Post #2018 (isolation #97) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:54 am

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Hmm, after thinking about it for way longer than I should, Derpy would actually be the most like an older brother profile. He was in one of my first games, and angrily taught me how to play mafia by way of do not do what you did. :lol:

So Derpy would be the oldest brother, I’m the middle kid. And Mulch can be the youngest.
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:55 am

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Uhm...i mean Tchill.
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:56 am

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And just like the middle kid grasping for attention, I shall take the credit.
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #100) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:59 am

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Oddly enough, if you count the Boon account, we’re all 3 years apart join date wise. How neat.
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:11 am

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In post 2022, Apple Jack wrote:I’ve been on site like 10 years or so
And then your little brother had to come in and squander that.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:12 am

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VOTE: Nauci

Sure, I’ll vote with family. Vig, you can shoot me if you don’t trust me. Unless our little brother is pulling the wool over our eyes.
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Post Post #2026 (isolation #103) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:15 am

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I just accidentally typed Mulch, but I meant Tchill. They’re different. Mulch and Tchill can be twin brothers, though.
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Post Post #2033 (isolation #104) » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:01 am

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In post 2032, Lord Gurgi wrote:Time to claim, Nauci.
This is probably coming from town.
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #105) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:10 am

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VT
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Post Post #2079 (isolation #106) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:15 am

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In post 2078, Tchill13 wrote:My first question is do we still believe XL is the vig?
I do. So there was probably a save somewhere from town, and a block on XL.
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #107) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:54 pm

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I mean, if Dave is a scum commuter, that means he couldn’t have made the kill that night, so it would explain the missing mafia kill as well.

Gurgi is scumming it up for me, though, so I’d say we go Gurgi and then have XL shoot at Dave again. XL didn’t claim any sort of limitation besides Novice.

Dunker is being a bit suspish to me right now, but I don’t think he’d go on Tchill here as scum.

Tchill, Derpy, and XL are like lock town for me.
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #108) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:57 pm

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We only lose if Dunker is scum at this point, and I’m willing to give Dunker the win.
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #109) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:57 pm

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If I’m wrong on Dunker being town.
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #110) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:49 am

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VOTE: Gurgi

I still think Dave should be shot at. There’s not a full commuter, and I think an Odd-Night commuter would make sense here.

If he ends up commuting again, and there’s a kill, then we power lynch Dunker tomorrow.
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #111) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:26 am

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In post 2181, Xiao Long wrote:Is it not possible for Dave to be mafia rb?
Then there’s likely would have just been a kill from mafia unless you were protected, you are correct.

If that is the case, though, then it doesn’t matter who you shoot. So I’d still say shooting Dave is the best choice. His partner was an even night, so good chance he could just be odd.
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Post Post #2208 (isolation #112) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:08 am

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So like, Dave is the last scum, guys.
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #113) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:59 am

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In post 2209, Tchill13 wrote:So like I lit the boonskies signal and you didn't come
I gave my thoughts. :lol:
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #114) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:59 am

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I’d actually prefer lynching Dave, then shooting Lord Gurgi.
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #115) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:27 am

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Or shoot Dunker, and we lynch Dave tomorrow works too. There’s no way we should lose this.
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #116) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:24 pm

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VOTE: Dave

Just in case something’s going on, and he isn’t lynched.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #117) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:25 pm

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But yeH, shoot Dunker, then we lynch Dave tomorrow. Game ends.
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #118) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:46 pm

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He’s basically conf town.
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:44 am

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Good work, guys. :)
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:52 am

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In post 2238, wavemode wrote:With that many obvtowns on day 1 it was easy to PoE the game

Granted, it takes a discerning eye to recognize that kind of thing

But I think if you go back and critically read day 1, Wossi and XL and DH were very blatantly town
Yeah, this game was easy to POE. I’m pretty sure I stated all three of those were town before wossi flipped. :lol:
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:40 am

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The Derpy, Flavor, Tchill family all survived! :)
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:50 am

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We won anyways. :shrug: pretty nicely.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:55 am

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I generally thought you were town the entire game, but I lynched you anyways to move on. I wish I was on earlier after you did claim, though.
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