Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Mikan Tsumiki]

H-Hi!

Ummmmmm....

[Mikan Tsumiki]

U-uh I-i kinda think your memes are bad. I-I'm terribly sorry! I'm terribly sorry...!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

U-uh I-i kinda think your memes are bad. I-I'm terribly sorry! I'm terribly sorry...!

why can't you be in group 2

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah I'm so sorry! Punish me! It'll never happen again!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

U-uh I-i kinda think your memes are bad. I-I'm terribly sorry! I'm terribly sorry...!

why can't you be in group 2

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah I'm so sorry! Punish me! It'll never happen again!

How would you like a job as a sheep?

AAAAAAAAAh, I-I'm sorry, I don't make a good sheep! Please call me a filthy pig! I'm good at pretending to be a pig.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I-I think if you don't know who I am, that means you shouldn't need to know! Sorry!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oh and also the anime account is in this group and those are fun to lynch

Oh and also the anime account is in this group and those are fun to lynch

This. This so much.

FUCK U D:

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Sucks i have to forfeit my vote to get the anime account or chess lynched but \_O_/

I don't want to cusse you emotional conflict! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Please break my arms!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

ugh ok fuck the syntax for a bit reading up and just waking up

pedit: omfg

[Mikan Tsumiki]

quite honestly this Transcend this game is so lifeless and fake it feels like scum already

H-Hi I notice this too but I don't think its alignment indicative eeeeeeeeeeeeeek sorry!

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VOTE: group b

/me looks at what group Desperado is
VOTE: C

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I think I just said what my main was LOL

[Mikan Tsumiki]

And the tone in 26 just bothers me

H-Hi I'm sorry! I'm sorry! B-but I think Tone is bullshit!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

And the tone in 26 just bothers me

H-Hi I'm sorry! I'm sorry! B-but I think Tone is bullshit!

That's your opinion tho

LOLMAFIASCUM

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also drop the gimmick or you will die at some point in this game

I'll drop the gimmick just to say I'll do whatever the fuck I want because I really could not care about your happiness aaaaaaaaaaah I'm I'm sorry! Please lock me up!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

VOTE: b[/b]

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: b

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

Yeah i feel ya

It would be ok every once in a while

But

EVERY SINGLE POST

is absurd

I'm sorry I'm sorry please lock me up!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: b

This implies you want to lynch Mick?

Good job A+ you did it

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Fight me

In Mother Russia you don't fight me.
Russia fights you.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

You're not making a very good impression >:(

Yeah I know...

But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie

I feel like this is scum signalling to their buddies.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

You're not making a very good impression >:(

Yeah I know...

But I’m not getting lynched so no biggie

I feel like this is scum signalling to their buddies.

You don’t really believe this. You broke character to say it.

I'm sorry! Please kick me in the head!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

But town doesn't know how the Traitor roles work yet.

The traitor would know imo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Yeah but what if it isn't.

They didn't know who they were in the first one.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

My point being that I think you are scum and thus know how it works.

I'm sorry! Please beat my skull in because I understand how the setup works because its open imo.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

p-edit:

You know, the fact that this is a sequel to another game completely slipped my mind.

I deleted what I originally had in that post. I just realized you might have also made the assumption it worked like it had in the previous game, and thus my point no longer holds to a degree I trust.

I buy the townslip

[Mikan Tsumiki]

p-edit:

You know, the fact that this is a sequel to another game completely slipped my mind.

I deleted what I originally had in that post. I just realized you might have also made the assumption it worked like it had in the previous game, and thus my point no longer holds to a degree I trust.

I buy the townslip

That's not a town slip btw

I'm sorry! We tend to disagree a lot on things! Brainwash me!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: c
Because everyone I scumread is in that group.

I should have /in'd on my main and get you WOTC'd.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

A better response would be to explain why you thought it was a townslip.

I just think you genuinely believed what you were saying, I'm sorry!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'm sorry! I was away! I am catching up now! Please shoot me!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

Okay
I'm going to go OOC to explain this becuase I spent some time thinking about what would happen if we massclaimed.
The answer would be Traitor would just claim VT here no matter what and would just rely on other methods to signal to their scumteam.
Claiming PR is a bit too risky I think.

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Let me preface that the following joke was much funnier before I realized nested spoilers don't work on this site and I'm a little upset about that.

Spoiler: A ketchup post

Spoiler: Sorry I meant catch-up

Hello this is your fearless leader CHECKERSMAN7 here to give you the THREE SIMPLE STEPS to winning this game.

1. SHAMELESSLY AND BOLDLY SHEEP CHECKERSMAN7
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4(Bonus). UTTERLY HUMILIATE THOR AND MAJIFFY SUPPORTERS AROUND THE WORLD

Gonna need you to go ahead and just check that Flowchart I have handily linked in my siggy there because your steps appear to be in direct conflict with the proper order of operations.

A TOWNBLOC OF 11, with a MAXIMUM OF THREE IN THE SMALLEST GROUP, CAN DECIDE THE DAY ONE SCUMFUCK

This is actually a good idea so I'm gonna claim it as my idea and we can proceed.

o7

the fuck is this nonsense

Looks like me looking for who the fuck asked you tbh

Sucks i have to forfeit my vote to get the anime account or chess lynched but \_O_/

I don't want to cusse you emotional conflict! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! Please break my arms!

Boy this account went from desudesukawaii-masochism to wtfasaur at breakneck speeds

Vote: Group B

Both Majiffy and I are inside of it - this sounds like money to me.

But I

like

voting

I'm not sure why you think that's a good idea. That would mean that one of you or Majiffy would likely be the NK, since scum would be forced to kill in that group.

Oh shit now I see what he's doing. Thanks Zak.

VOTE: Group B

Hey bulb how come you are sure that both Thor and Jiffy are town?

I'm not, but it's extremely likely that at least one is. If either or both are town, it'd be nice to have them around for as long as possible, so I'm not really wild about the idea of giving scum the guaranteed ability to kill some of the best players in the game right off the bat.

I legit haven't played a single game of mafia in like 2 years I don't know why you think I'm worth a damn beyond shouting loudly and demeaning people merely on the basis that they disagree with me.

Not that I was any better before my very long hiatus.

actually I am in agreement that I would like to see thor and jiffy stick around a while, if they are town.

I wouldn't. This shit is eating into my Rocket League time.

Ain't gon be no scum in my house VOTE: Group B

lul the interactive based reads on page 5. This will be entertaining.

IME early interactive reads trend more accurate and towns actually get worse as they start second-guessing themselves.

Oh how I've missed this phrase. The cornerstone of every wagon I try to start.

ugh ok fuck the syntax for a bit reading up and just waking up

pedit: omfg

You have shattered my worldview by posting OOC

Gimmick accounts need to be banned rofl

>Half the playerlist

Unnecessary text-based stuttering

You gotta self-narrate as a high-pitched stereotypical anime voice it makes it much funnier.

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

@mod In addition it appears from the role pm's that were provided that Secret Agents do not have a private topic to speak in, is this correct? And in addition, if the answer to the first question results in the goons not knowing the secret agents identities, what would occur if a Goon were to night kill a Secret Agent?

They would die like a normal traitor does

Have you people never played with traitors before?

This game really shouldn’t be off to such a boring start

DW Thor and I will get into a hefty multi-paragraph multi-quoted argument around page 25 or so

And that'll probably carry us through Day 2 or 3 before one or both of us is dead.

That’s also my entrance for every game so good luck pushing that it’s AI

Okay this can get lynched today

traitor is


a traitor

not hard to understand

I think the Uzz is town

fite me

@Mod I am uncertain which mafia members know the identities of which other mafia members. Could you please clarify post-haste?

Goons only know who each other are. Traitors do not know who the Traitors are and do not know who the Goons are.

what happens if goon kills traitor

The Goons can kill the Traitor just as the Goons can kill Town as long as the goon doing the kill isn't RBed or the Traitor that is targeted isn't RoleStopped.

Oh look it's like every other mafia game with traitors ever

Someone intelligent bounce this off me.

if we are running some fool up and they claim PR is it optimal to have a CC period and leave both alive yes/no

Always CC if you're town unless the run-up is result of an investigative report. In which case, soft your reports before day ends and hunt for partners.

And because it's buried in the spoiler
VOTE: Group B

This catchup is terrible and no one should be TRing this I'm sorry but its true! Please burn me if you think otherwise.

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The question really should be "Does

LUV

makes this post as town or as scum?". This isn't a generic town/scum argument, this is a LUV argument, which is why I think this "he softed" argument is dumb and likely a distraction.

I-I think I'm starting to coming around to LUV's cockiness coming from town tbh.

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P-edit: I'm saying that I think LUV is probably the type of player to do this sort of thing without thinking. I've seen it before, and he kinda fits what I'd expect to see. I don't think it's folding, but probably not thinking. If you have experience otherwise, go ahead and give it, but this is looking like a kneejerk lynch to me.

Chairthrow.gif

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And regardless of LUV's role, whether town PR, stupid VT, or scum (goon or traitor, doesn't matter), there's no way that a town PR in that group CCs him during DAY PHASE FREAKING ONE! That would essentially be signing their own death warrant, which would not be worth it at this point. They'd be more likely to just try to steer the lynch LUV's way anyway, because there's more than enough players who'd be willing to lynch him. The very thought is scum-sided, and not town-sided.

Chairthrow.gif

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VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

Ok cool thanks.

@LUV: Please hardclaim in your next post thank you

No.

Anyone who asks for a claim, or claims will get my undying condemnation. If you cannot convince us you are town by your play, you deserve it.

VOTE: Group C

I understand the reasoning behind no claims provided (it is actually fairly good) but I do feel like this post seems a bit harsh. If Rauth was scum, this right here would be a good excuse to jump on a wagon away from his group

. This is definitely something to consider if we get to a B lynch as well as the stuff on snarky I said above.

That being said, Rauth has been contributing and trying to further discussion. Anyone who has played with him before...can you tell me about his meta? Does he normally make tunnel threats as town?

I-I'm sorry but please kill this!

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Babies, for those who look to have them, wear you down and out, just like trying to keep up to simply slam down initial thoughts, omg. Just as an FYI. Initial thoughts:

Checkers/Chess, doing what I expected for the game, attempting to be the loudest one in the room and run the town/call the shots.
Ginngie, shit and caps posting as usual.
Bulb, It's day 1, I'll see what happens with you as the day(s) go on
Thor, being a god of thunder.
Rauth, we'll get to you in the question round/segment of things....
LUV, mehillgettoyouatsomepoint
Anime Apologist Account, dear me this is gonna be a long game....
The rest.... Dear thunder god the damn posts keep piling up.....

Questions:

Rauth, open set up yo, what -townie/scum PR- in their right mind is going to go "I'm the PR of group Z?!"
Checkers, why B, bb? I'm understanding the surface level, on a baby mind you, but I'd like a deeper explanation
LUV, if you want Checkers/Chess gone so badly, why is your vote not on group C? Also, within your group, who do you think is scum?
Bulb, reads so far?
Ginngie, reads?
Thor-Jiffy, who in your group do you think is scum?
Momo, why Snarky?!

Checking out for the night. I know when I come back tomorrow, it's gonna be another slog to bloody read.

mumbles and curses about everything

This screams extremely faked to me okay I'm sorry please run me over if you disagree!

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Momo, why Snarky?!

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.

Just found out ginngie is gin.

From what I remember, Gin does not play like this.

Does the alt account always act like this?

I honestly don't know.

If they do , it's a TR. If not....

Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view

Either way, gn everyone, seeya tomorrow

Again, please murder this.

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Be aware that there is a somewhat loose rule against posting too much and too little. We don't want to have to take it any further because we want people to be able to gauge for themselves if they are posting too much or too little, but if it gets out of hand, we are prepared for that.

The mods are mafia!

lolmods
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Mikan do we HAVE to do the gimmick? It is getting old rather fast...

I'm breaking character in and out sometimes I think its managable and if you don't like it well, you can pl me, but I'm better alive then dead

[Mikan Tsumiki]

also i think you are who i think you are

Yeah no shit the way I write my catchup posts I can only name two people who do that.

One of them is MoI.
The other is me.
Guess I just suck at doing the hidden alt roleplaying thing.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

@Mikan: You don't like Momo? I like Momo.

Are you illiterate?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I-I'm sorry I'm just moody please tie my legs together!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: c

[Mikan Tsumiki]

P-Please vote for C, Desperado is openwolfing ok I'm sorry!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Desperado isn't bad at this game.
He can gamesolve and the fact he has no intention of doing so or posting anything that remotely looks town is indicative of him being scum.
Kill it.

Also the fact momo scumreads Snarky and not Desperado is noted.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

How the fuck does town even come up with this hard of a fucking stance and this analysis D1 of someone who has 2 posts
Oh wait they fucking don't.

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Ok cool thanks.

@LUV: Please hardclaim in your next post thank you

No.

Anyone who asks for a claim, or claims will get my undying condemnation. If you cannot convince us you are town by your play, you deserve it.

VOTE: Group C

I understand the reasoning behind no claims provided (it is actually fairly good) but I do feel like this post seems a bit harsh. If Rauth was scum, this right here would be a good excuse to jump on a wagon away from his group

. This is definitely something to consider if we get to a B lynch as well as the stuff on snarky I said above.

That being said, Rauth has been contributing and trying to further discussion. Anyone who has played with him before...can you tell me about his meta? Does he normally make tunnel threats as town?

This sounds extremely awkward and probably isn't coming from town. Like look at the questioning it's extremely awkward.

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Honestly guys, we don't need a D1 claim.

Plus, there are plenty of other poss scum in B.

LUV shouldn't need to claim. He should simply be put under the microscope along with Snarky and Rauth. The time focused on him would be good for a read and even if we are not sure, we have 2 other likely scum.

wtf even is this post.

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Momo, why Snarky?!

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.

How the fuck does town spin a narative this fucking bad
oh wait
they don't.

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Just found out ginngie is gin.

From what I remember, Gin does not play like this.

Does the alt account always act like this?

I honestly don't know.

If they do , it's a TR. If not....

Edit: Checker stop...this is looking like scum diversionary tactics from my point of view

Either way, gn everyone, seeya tomorrow

His concern here screams really faked.
The paranoia here isn't genuine it can die.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

mikan i'm getting bad feelings in my stomach about you ....

I'm sorry call me a filthy pig!

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k but this is momo we're talking about

momo...

Spoiler: Guess what

I don't care

[Mikan Tsumiki]

The fact that anyone townreads that slot is fucking beyond me.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

This is what a Town!Desperado looks like
This is what a Scum!Desperado looks like
The difference is light and day and if Desperado is town that will become obvious.

pedit: Don't give me that bullshit man
If he's that much of a giant lynchbait why is it even worth defending him?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Okay and what if he's scum?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

So that's not a judgment call you can make now is it?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'd much rather bacade you like a collared sex slave in rotterdam tyvm

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Ok Chess I think you may have misunderstood me.
I was thinking about how the setup could be broken so my first step was massclaim and deciding if that's a good idea or not.
Then I came to these conclusions.

Here is where we are on the same page
> Town PRs will always claim PR.
> A Period for a CC should be given.
> If there is no CC, we don't lynch it and it is confrimed town.
> LolBulba

Here is where we may not be on the same page
> I don't think Traitor claims PR here ever.
> I think a Goon is more likely to claim PR then a Traitor.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Is there like still some misunderstanding between me or you?
Or is it just me?
Because I am pretty sure I understand what you are trying to say there. and I don't think that's a sinareo that would happen.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Let's say this is a group

Billy
Bob
LolBulba - Lol Traitor
Dab - Goon
Joe
Phill
Mother Russia - Town PR

Let's say lolbulba gets wagoned and claims, Mother Russia CCs
If we were to leave the CC alive and wagon Joe, then Joe flips town.
Lolbulba blocks Mother Russia, Scum shoot Phill

We are left with
Billy
Bob
LolBulba
Dab
Mother Russia

Now if for some reason we decided to stay in this group, and we lynched Mother Russia because lol
Then Billy gets shot
and now we're in a bad position where there's 2 scum left in one group and 1 town remaining in that group.
glgl

pedit: The massclaim is a redhairing dude
forget about the fucking massclaim

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oh yeah and if D2 we lynched Billy/Bob because lolmafiascum then it gets even worse and the goon is free to out itself and lolcat
Doesn't matter, can't lynch it without lynching before lynching another scumfuck

pedit: Hey Chess, its mafiascum
town does some pretty stupid shit imo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Either way yes, we do not lynch in the same group twice
we are on the same page good job A+

[Mikan Tsumiki]

btw that sinareo doesn't include other SAs that may target either PR.
Judging by how the role pm is written, you get two seperate lists.
lmao

I think we massclaim after we lynch the scum traitor then?

That way we can just have the SA's watch each other because lol great setup design.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

oh wait naaaah one of them becomes a gunsmith lolrip

Fuck these roles are REALLY Fucking confusing

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also i read 7 missed pages backwards and i think i lost a 6 digit number amount of brain cells

I can at least agree with you on losing brain cells with this game already...

Vote Group C

I've got at least 2 hits here already that I want to nail to the floor.

Could you please use vote tags?

I'm using bold tags for now on.

If people join me the mods will give in.

In all seriousness I'll play laterz.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I am pretty sure Mikan is alisae

FUCK UUUUUUUUUU

[Mikan Tsumiki]

And my "narratives" are not bad or spun. They are what I believe. I am scum hunting.

Town can't even spin those naratives they don't have enough information. The fact you can is mind blowing.

I don't care about yourself meta, and if you're lynchbaity or not.
I don't care if you don't play like a "normal" person what the fuck even is normal anyways.

Outing the Alt is just flat out rude btw.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

Omae o wa shinderu

These are Snarky's two posts.
Who btw
Lurks a lot of the time early game.

So how the fuck do you get this quote pryamid

Momo, why Snarky?!

VOTE: Group C

Feeling that or my own group for right now.

I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group

and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.

VOTE: Group B

What do y'all think?

p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this game

I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.

I would however consider SRing her is Snarky flips scum.

And coming up with a read in 2 posts. I based my read on a LACK of content and the timing of the posts while considering how few posts there were. I know what I am doing. I am pretty lynchbait but if you give me a chance I can hunt scum well.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also Why I never looked at them rofl I got too lazy

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oh come on Alisae, the alt was obvious. I knew it as soon as you started scumreading me.

I do not care
it is still rude.
And tbh you were far more likely to be told imo.

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None of you know me irl but let me tell you something, if there is one thing I am good at, it's reading people. In life, when judging someone who you suspect is trying to manipulate you [or an audience] timing is everything. The timing and the content of Snarky's posts suggests scum. See, the timing [and the carefully controlled degree of minimal content] would be a perfect scum play at this point, especially for someone known to lurk early game. It would seem normal while alleviating pressure and turning it against another crowd.

lol shut the fuck up this is complete bullshit and you know it.

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Oh and Alisae, next time you make an alt, do remember that a new account won't have any grudges going into their first game.

Um
you're scum?
I don't see the problem.

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This is a semantics argument, and it is bad.

Okay
so I understand lolbulba
but there's a difference
Town does some stupid shit so don't is the wrong word, because it implies they can do it but they won't.
Can't implies they litterally cannot do it not matter how they try.
The fact that momo was able to come up with that is bullshit imo.

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also lmfao Elli called it in signups thread Alisae

Love you too Chess <3

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Oh my god Alisae, I was reading your GTKAS to help me get a read on you and I just realized you were a guy. I always thought you were a girl due to your avatar and kept on calling you she. Sorry man...totally my bad.

Go read the bottom of page 5 imo if you want clearification on gender, I don't go by he pronouns anymore.
and why the fuck does it even matter?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Nah Bulba you're just intertaining to tease <3

[Mikan Tsumiki]

entertaining*
fuck

[Mikan Tsumiki]

(Also I kinda think a bit low of mafiascum in general but that's a different story)

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hate is a strong word. I don't hate anyone except for like one person rl.
I read your posts as scum and you are probably scum.
You're not addressing my concerns, you're saying "Oh this person has a grudge" and being a victim

like
fuck off with that

Address my concerns

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also
am I lynching you based off a "grudge" or am I scum?
I can't be doing both
pick one.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I have been

stance on two posts is indicative of you being a scumfuck and is not nonsense.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

No one was talking about you not posting.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

What does that have to do with Tran's read on you

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Eh I coulda been confused by how you formatted it
Thought you were talking to trans

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: Group C

If this fixes things, cool. If not, just gonna keep using bold. Will catch up tomorrow.

I'm sorry! I thought we were only using bold tags! Fry me on a grittle!

--

So if I made an alt called TheLegend27 would I be lock town in every game? SWEET!


/s

lmfao

--

You didn't become the most pro-town player until near the end of the game, and I called you out on day 1. You didn't start playing pro-town until Screen ticked you off.

Bulba...
Oh Bulba...
Some of your pushes in Night and Day were questionable and made you look VI in my mind
but oh Bulba...

GROW THE FUCK UP

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Who cares besides your ego?
Seriously.
We don't need this fight right now.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I do not care.
Defuse and move on.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also LUV isn't scum.
Desperado and Momo are tho

[Mikan Tsumiki]

This catchup is terrible

Go on

You do nothing that is anything remotely town in it. You just say a lot of stuff that's already been said, you're not adding anything new. it just reads scum to me alright? I'm sorry, run over me with your rocket league cars!

So much AtE going on here. Mikan looks pretty bad to me.

I'm sorry! Throw a snowball with rocks in my face!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also I am kinda of like
obvious town?
Just saying.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also I am kinda of like
obvious town?

what? why?

Here is a suggestion, have you considered reading the game?
It would be benefical for your mental health.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

idk if anyone can really call themselves obvtown and have it be credible

If you think I am scum then case me.
Go

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Sure you can, guys.

For example, I am obvious town because with THIS playerlist, I would not devote nearly 200 pages to attempting to correct stupidity as scum. I would meme and I would be active, but I wouldn't get in everyone's faces and have like 5 people scumreading me for trying to teach them how stupid they are. That's my 'why I'm obvtown'

So, ANIME ALT WHO MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE ALISAE WE DONT KNOW, why don't you tell the class why you're obvtown?

Because I'm not trying to deathtunnel obvtown!LUV and I'm overthrowing your dictatorship ass

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Sure you can, guys.

For example, I am obvious town because with THIS playerlist, I would not devote nearly 200 pages to attempting to correct stupidity as scum. I would meme and I would be active, but I wouldn't get in everyone's faces and have like 5 people scumreading me for trying to teach them how stupid they are. That's my 'why I'm obvtown'

So, ANIME ALT WHO MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE ALISAE WE DONT KNOW, why don't you tell the class why you're obvtown?

Because I'm not trying to deathtunnel obvtown!LUV and I'm overthrowing your dictatorship ass

once again you're going to have to walk me through this, because in LUV's own words, nothing he's done in AI, so how could he be obvtown?

Well that's because LUV's
hint
Bad
at
mafia
and
doesn't
know
how
to
deal
with
pressure

LUV's approach to this game feels like a natural one, LUV's confidence in his towniness I believe comes from his townplay.
If he was scum tbh I would expect him to have a way different approach to this game.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like LUV likes playing scum
He's not going to fucking roll over and fucking DIE as scum.
I think he just believes his towniess will become self-evident.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'm missing how LUV is obvtown too. I don't read him as obvscum like everyone seems to but calling him townie at all is a stretch

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Yeah okay one scumfuck in {Snarky, Momo}

pedit: Alisae because momo decided to out it for ~reasons~

[Mikan Tsumiki]

A Town ISO
A Scum ISO

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hot Take
Checkers is scum.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

How is his Scum ISO here ANYTHING remotely close to what's being here.
Like
can you see?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like, LUV is TRYING to hunt in the scum ISO I don't see as much hunting here lmao

[Mikan Tsumiki]

In the scum ISO i am reading a verbose motherfucker who is trying to be reasonable
in the Town ISO I am reading a whining crybaby who did hardly nothing D1, and D2 Kept on saying he was town over and over again and stuff like that.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

What Will be stopping your deathtunnel is the fact we're voting Group C

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Group A
EddieFenix - Scum
Assemblerotws - This can die
Bulbazak - Lolbulba
WhyMafia - Town I guess
Elliberetta - Policy Null
InactionDan - Haven't read a single post
Creature - Will obvtown or scum when they start posting

Group B
Majiffy - Scum
Rautherdir - Obvious Town
SnarkySnowman - Could be scum but not with Momo
Thor665 - Haven't read a single post
momo - Could be scum but not with Snarky
Lil Uzi Vert - Obvious Town
ConManMick - Don't remember

Group C
vonflare - Don't remember, tho I think their towngame would have more flare as opposed to what's being presented here?
Desperado - Lockscum, guy can solve games instead he's lurking for days. This is our D1 lynch.
RachMarie - Town
checkersman7 - Could easily be scum but I could just be paranoid.
Transcend - Need flips before getting a read here
Ginngie - Haven't read a single post

I'm catching some zs bye

[Mikan Tsumiki]

See the problem with this is that there are at least 3 confirmed SANE people in group C

How do you connect sanity to alignment exactly?
Because those players who are sane tend to be sane regardless and vice versa - so I'm pretty sure that you're debating a policy preference with me here, no?

Ok I actually like this imo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hot Take Ginngie is scum

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Elli I'll trust you on Chess if you're town.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Group A
EddieFenix - Scum
Assemblerotws - This can die (their first post reads gut town)
Bulbazak - Lolbulba
WhyMafia - Town I guess
Elliberetta - Policy Null
InactionDan - Haven't read a single post (Don't think they did AI things yet)
Creature - Will obvtown or scum when they start posting

Group B
Majiffy - Scum
Rautherdir - Obvious Town
SnarkySnowman - Could be scum but not with Momo
Thor665 - Haven't read a single post (Townlean)
momo - Could be scum but not with Snarky
Lil Uzi Vert - Obvious Town
ConManMick - Don't remember (Townlean but I need to see them do solvy stuff)

Group C
vonflare - Don't remember, tho I think their towngame would have more flare as opposed to what's being presented here?
Desperado - Lockscum, guy can solve games instead he's lurking for days. This is our D1 lynch.
RachMarie - Town
checkersman7 - Could easily be scum but I could just be paranoid.
Transcend - Need flips before getting a read here
Ginngie - Haven't read a single post (Scum)

I'm catching some zs bye

(Revisions in these going to get sleep now)

[Mikan Tsumiki]

POLICY
NULL

ALI WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS

We are
I think you could fool me so I'm putting you to the side for later

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Ginngie - Haven't read a single post (Scum)

Everything you have posted
could come from you as scum.
Litterally everything.
None of it I don't see coming from town you.
You're not even doing much yourself either.
Your read with Trans at the time ok I bought it but looking back at it seemed really faked.

pedit: Because sometimes some people's posts just don't interest me at the time.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also your read on LUV seems really faked to me.
Either way I wanna lynch one of Ginngie or Desperado

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Mhmm

fite me lets go

[Mikan Tsumiki]

POLICY
NULL

ALI WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS

We are
I think you could fool me so I'm putting you to the side for later

ali bb
if you're still haunted by fortnight
read my comments about my scumplay in the qt <3

I remember reading it but I keep on saying I need to get zs but I don't why help me

[Mikan Tsumiki]

POLICY
NULL

ALI WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS

We are
I think you could fool me so I'm putting you to the side for later

Lul you're just basing this on that one Elliscum tryhard game aren't u

yeaaaaaaaaaaah

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'll relook at it when I wake up

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also Ginngie I don't know why you're pretending to be heartbroken imo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also Ginngie I don't know why you're pretending to be heartbroken imo

I'm not?

and I dont understand why you think I'm faking everything?

and how your main line of attack (really any line of attack that comes from scum in the last 4 completed games) have been saying I'm fake as shit.

I read your posts
they don't seem like they're coming from obvtown!Ginngie
They seem a lot more like a predator being stealthy.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also with over a year's experience

you saying I'm fake.

Is silly to say the least.

Nothing you do stands out to me here

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like your play here seems way more subtle imo.

pedit: Then I guess I'm just not seeing you push your own shit and gamesolving? Or doing that in a way that seems town?


Okay
is this conversation going to go
Ali: I scumread you
Gin: You can't read me
Ali: Oh ok.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

and you dont get to say nothing stands out about me if you also say you dont read my god damn posts

I have a small attention span I read what looks interesting to me.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'm sorry! Please stuff me in a washing machine!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Okay in all seriousness
I feel like the way you react to me coming out with this read here is way different then how you react to me coming out with a read on you when you're like
actually town
Because here I'm trying to pick a fight with you and you seem to want to avoid it for some reason?
If you were town I kinda expect you to fight back with some bite, because this is a great sorting opportunity for you.
Here you're just "Fuck you, you can't read me."

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'll stuff you in a washing machine.

uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Mikan Tsumiki]

He’s caught and is too sick to try.

I actually
forgot she was sick

pedit: Then why are you on the defensive.
If you're town I expected you to be on the offensive here.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

INTERMISSION

can people who think they've been obvtown raise their hand ty

ME! ME! PICK ME!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

sigh
I'ma catch some zs now.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

ali if you're awake who in this playerlist isn't LOLMAFIASCUM in your opinion.

Majiffy - Its been awhile so can't really remember
Thor665 - I am really looking forward to being in a game with Thor
vonflare - lolmafiascum
checkersman7 - Chess is cool
Assemblerotws - Lolmafiascum
RachMarie - I hardly remember Rach
Elliberetta - Elli is cool
ConManMick - honestly don't remember
Bulbazak - lolmafiascum
Mikan Tsumiki
Rautherdir - Lolmafiascum
SnarkySnowman - lolmafiascum
Transcend - We have very different approaches to the game
WhyMafia - lolmafiascum
InactionDan - I don't ever seem to care? shrug
Creature - He's not going to win games but he's okay
Ginngie - lolmafiascum (I really do not think your townplay is as good as others say it is)
momo - lolmafiascum
EddieFenix - lolmafiascum
Desperado - Decent
Lil Uzi Vert - lolmafiascum

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Honestly the people I look foward to playing with here are {Majiffy, Thor, Chess, Elli, CMM}

pedit: my opinion is mostly based on being deathtunneled by you in the Ari game and Night and Day.
I want to see you lynch scum again imo.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

But yeah
I hate playing on ms if that wasn't obvious.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I should read them then

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hell
maybe I should just stop playing mafia and just mod
maybe that'll make me happy.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

oh god this is making me depressed help.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hell
maybe I should just stop playing mafia and just mod
maybe that'll make me happy.

you know what else would make you happy
when i make you eat your own liver.

uuuuuuuuuuu

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Can I sleep now?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Why am I lolmafiascum

I kinda don't think your townplay is that great.
If anything I just enjoy playing with you.

I'm judging townplay not scumplay because towns make me want to gauge my eyeballs out on ms.

--

can you stand the nightmares

what if you wake up and you've been kidnapped

I need some excitement in my life yes please do kidnap me, take me away to a faraway land and castle

[Mikan Tsumiki]

If I still feel like I am suffering when I make a post in this game by the time I wake up I am replacing out
Everytime I make a post it just feels depressing.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

yeah there'll be a beautiful garden
gorgeous lakes
a thriving marketplace
elegant tamed beasts
money and riches as far as the eye can see

and you'll be tied up in the dungeons

I actually want to hear more
I don't think this is healthy.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hi I couldn't sleep

Go on

You do nothing that is anything remotely town in it. You just say a lot of stuff that's already been said, you're not adding anything new. [/quote]
So it's a bad catch-up post because I... Caught up? And expressed my opinions on the relevant topics?

Okay.

idk if anyone can really call themselves obvtown and have it be credible

If you think I am scum then case me.
Go

Is this an open invitation? Because I just might.

[reads list]

Seeing an awful lot of scum reads and an awful little reasoning in your post history[/quote]Oh I would love it.

Your opinions on relevant topics were consensus and added nothing new imo.
You might as well said "Ok I read I found nothing useful."

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also Creature Obvtowned
A+
Never lynching that slot.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Desperado Lurks as scum and doesn't really do much
As Town he actually makes attempts to solve the game

I expect way more gamesolving from Desperado.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I still haven't gotten the "yeah, Alisae is town" ping yet this game

When do you ever get those pings when I'm actually town?

--

ikr...his push on me was kind of scummy considering

The only thing he had on me was that I SR someone with 2 posts when he did the same to desperado

You tried to come up with some narative bullshit
I just simply said I expected Desperado to do solving things.
There's a difference scumfuck

--

[Agree WhyMafia is town btw
As are Elli + InactionDan + Mikan + (likely) Vonflare + sadly likely Transcend.

I need to quit assuming that people can see what I see, and that I can just prod them in the right direction. So let's talk about what's wrong with this statement. Hint: It's the town reads. Why/Elli/Dan are called town in Group A. That's fine (although there are some danger signs there, but I'd need to go into a full long post about why I'm scumreading Checkers for that to make sense). No, what should be setting off alarm bells are that he gives townreads on Mikan, Vonflare, and Transcend, who are all in Group C. Why is that important? Well, because Checkers is in C himself, which only has 7 players total with 2 scum. So assuming that Checkers has himself as town (and why wouldn't he), that would leave only 3 names left, with 2 scum in them from his PoE PoV. That also makes me wonder about Ginngie, since Checkers left her off the list, and it seemed like he had a townread there before. If he is still townreading Ginngie, he should believe he has both scum in C locked down. Boom! Group solved! But even if he doesn't think Ginngie is town anymore, or that she's null, that's still a 2/3 chance to lynch scum in C. So why lynch in B again, where he doesn't have solid reads and only a hate boner for LUV?

As Checkers himself would say: BOOP BOOP! ERROR DETECTED!

oh my god

this is

beautiful

No its Bulba being bad, and you are scummy for agreeing on it.
That is such a convoluted thought processes that it makes it more likely Bulba and Chess are just town.

--

Ass is obv town cause his first post was town gold

VOTE: c
Because everyone I scumread is in that group.

I too also have a slight townread on that post.

--

Also Bulba and Elli are scum

No

[Mikan Tsumiki]

meh this feels like town Jiffy peeps

Hey Rach, would you be able to catch scum!Majiffy if it existed here?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
I kinda want you to explain what gives you townfeels about him.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
I'll trust you for now?
But I don't feel ok about it.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I never said you were scum for it?
Why did you assume I did.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oh wait thought you were talking about Assembles post.
Ok give me amoment.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

But basicly what it narrows down to is that fact that scum!Chess is probably not thinking the way Bulba is describing because scum think things in a much much more simpler way then what he is describing.
And honestly
the way you're agreeing with it just looks scummy.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

“Bulba is being bad and you’re scummy for agreeing with it”

I misinterpretted! I'm sorry! Please turn me into a myspace page!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

But basicly what it narrows down to is that fact that scum!Chess is probably not thinking the way Bulba is describing because scum think things in a much much more simpler way then what he is describing.
And honestly
the way you're agreeing with it just looks scummy.

1. You’re generalizing
2. You haven’t explained why Bulba is wrong in his logic
3. Do you actually understand the point Bulba was making?

1. Yeah and?
2. I don't explain why people are wrong, I just try to explain why people don't think that way.
3. Yes and I really don't care, scum!Chess doesn't act that way.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

give praise to his analysis of a player.

OH MY GOD
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING
HELP

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'm sorry give me 5 minutes that is just hilarious.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Ok I'm done.

I'm not saying its illogical.
I'm saying that scum is probably not going to think like that, their plans are a lot more simpler then Bulba is making them out to be. Their thoughts are a lot more simpler.

And look
I know I'm being an ass
so honestly
I think I'm just going to do this

V/LA till the 18th

I'll come back when I'm in a better headspace to want to play and not absolutely hate everyone.
Its not really anyones fault by my own so...

[Mikan Tsumiki]

hi I feel like a nice person atm so I'll make a post then do a wolfy popout
1041 - You don't tunnel me this much when I'm town.
1059 - tbh I'm starting to think who votes for what group is NAI.
Like
you pick a group
and you vote it.
it's that simple.

1077 - Vonflare maybe, but your reads can't be this bad when you're town. Yet again you're not really scum with Ginngie.
I'm actually starting to SR you more then I SR Ginngie at this point.

There's another post about Bulba being lol what else

Yeah Thor is kinda town.

No Chess, LUV is not scum.

1123 - The fact you scumread Rauth is mindblowing he is like obvtown.
more lolbulba

Yeah ok I'm starting to think Elli is town.
that means I have my free win ty.

Group A	Group B	Group C
EddieFenix Assemblerotws Bulbazak WhyMafia [if my reads are messed up somewhere, it's here.] Elliberetta InactionDan [trusting Chess here for now.] Creature	Majiffy [Kinda feel like trusting Rach here. Atleast for now] Rautherdir SnarkySnowman [not scum with momo] Thor665 momo [not scum with Snarky] Lil Uzi Vert ConManMick	vonflare Desperado RachMarie checkersman7 Transcend [not scum with Ginngie] Ginngie [not scum with Trans] Mikan Tsumiki

VOTE: CMM
Come play the game friendo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

If anything needs an explanation I'm here for like, 5 minutes?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Actually tbh Vonflare shouldn't have a color.
Oh well.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Assemble is purely gut.
There are some Thor posts I liked let me go grab them.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

See the problem with this is that there are at least 3 confirmed SANE people in group C

How do you connect sanity to alignment exactly?
Because those players who are sane tend to be sane regardless and vice versa - so I'm pretty sure that you're debating a policy preference with me here, no?

This question feels really town to me.
Like I really like this.

--

Thor-Jiffy, who in your group do you think is scum? [/i]

It's day 1 in a large, anyone advancing any scum read as particularly meaningful is being silly.
I'd be willing to lynch any of them besides Majiffy, and it's not that I town read him, I just want him to live till the game is small enough we can sort of interact, get paranoid at each other, and set up a 1v1

Are you claiming you had your own reasons to vote your own group and that you weren't following the avalanche of B votes? What about your C vote? That group is starting to get a lot of attention now. Was your vote not influenced by that?

I would absolutely claim that about B.
At the point I moved to C it was smaller than B, so if my move was sheep oriented for C it weakens your argument for B to be sheepy.
Your move.

This feels town to me.

--

Why are so many people town reading me so early? That is actually making me nervous about my own reads.

People are throwing out reads and adjusted reads like Skittles - why do you think it matters?

Creature often does lists as town.

Does he not do them as scum?

Oh god you're scum and want me to townread you in endgame aren't you

Nah, I want you to townread me until the day before lylo, then, at night I want you to figure it out, then I want to kill you that night for epic lulz and Dead QT rage.
You got me into a Large at game start - I'm going to kill you regardless of my alignment

This vote count is gold. The group B voters are so town rich I think I've got my daily dose of vitamins from just looking at it. In contrast there are a lot of people voting Group C that are null-scum with a only couple town reads sprinkled in-between. I think that the reason why is that in Group C there's a lot more reads that are all over the place while people are slowly forming a consensus on group B.

The only one that I think there is stark disagreement with among those voting in Group B is LUV (He's scum btw).

I don't even get this, scum are in two sets of 3 that don't know each other, so the idea they're going to bother to influence the Group selection much...meh? I mean, if they're doing it, great, but I'll be fascinated to learn their reasons.

It always takes me a while to sort out Thor, though usually I end up town reading him more than scum reading him. I am more familiar with him in newbie games than large games. Last time we were in a game together that was a large theme game, was the 42 player role madness game. He turned out to be scumz and even though I was a known and confirmed Mason, he still did not try to kill me. In fact he did not kill anyone for several nights in a row, which made everyone think that the red scum were all gone.

It was definitely not a play one usually sees from scum, and that is why I always am suspicious of him even if I think he is town.

And this is why I spend all of day 3 in most games with you battering my head against a wall?

UNVOTE: Group C
VOTE: Groub B

That is L-1 if the last voter tallied things right, someone should lolhammer.
Or, better yet, demand a claim and then get pissed when someone else lolhamers.

His majiffy interactions to me come off as honest. They're most likely NAI but they kinda make me feel good about Thor.
His response to Dan is really good and kinda mirrors what I think.

--

Transcends' vote is pretty meh within the context of why Group B was a better group to select.
Not that I'm sure I'm buying that context, but if he did, then, y'know, suspect that skeeve.

PEdit - I refuse to use a "hurt" tag. I'm a man full grown, we don't admit pain.

The Transcend read kinda feels naturally formed to me. It doesn't really come off as agendy or anything.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

likewise

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that large NY game brings back memories

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I think Thor is a read I'm not taking super strongly atm and will come back to later on in the game.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I don't care about the fact you two are in the same group.
I care about your interactions.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

tbh I kinda forgot about the traitor

[Mikan Tsumiki]

fuck the V/LA

[Mikan Tsumiki]

VOTE: LUV

P

L

A

Y

T

H

E

G

A

M

E

--

phonepost but hey Mika u realise your ginngie and transcend not scum with each other read is shit because the scum within group don't know each other rite

I kinda forgot a traitor existed imo

--

Pls don't lynch CMM today I wanted to play with him

This reaction is noted.

--

Mick wagon reeks hard.

Um
Mick needs to play the game.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

LUV the person who does nothing D1 as town is not scum here.
He quite frankly does not do nothing on D1 as scum and would be somewhat townread.

Your LUV wagon is trash, and so are you.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I feel like Mikan's actually not reading anything I say.

Also yeah I really don't need to read your posts if you're town imo.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

No
Desperado has a scum role pm.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also I'm voting Mick because he's null

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I townread Bulba
and because of that
I don't need to read his posts

[Mikan Tsumiki]

How is that hard to understand?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I'm sorry! P-please forgive me! Please tase me!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

uuuuuuuuuuuh

I'm sorry! But I already won the game if I'm scum.
Just so you know.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

PLAY THE GAME

1059 - tbh I'm starting to think who votes for what group is NAI.
Like
you pick a group
and you vote it.
it's that simple.

keep in mind that mikan has been hawking me from the word go because i haven't been "gamesolving"

then they say that literally everything that happened in the first 50 pages was NAI

riiiiiiiiiiiiight

This is always a scumpost.
This is always a reaction that comes from scum
not one that wants to attempt to genuinely form reads.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

LUV the person who does nothing D1 as town is not scum here.
He quite frankly does not do nothing on D1 as scum and would be somewhat townread.

Your LUV wagon is trash, and so are you.

yo whatever baselines you're using are what's actually trash here

How scum!Desperado works
> Pick something to tunnel
> Tunnel
> Don't make much of an appearance, lurk, stay under the radar.
> Tunnel to avoid having to form other reads.

Basicly what you're doing here is that.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like
would you like to educate the class on why LUV is scum?
Or are you going to keep at it with the obvscumming.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

yup

you got me

i only play scum and town one way and you are the true arbiter

I'm sorry! Please crumple me up like a paper ball and throw me away!

pedit: LUV doesn't need to claim lmfao

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like you want him to claim
why od you want him to claim?
Because ~reasons~
What are those reasons?
I guess we will never know LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Mikan Tsumiki]

if i felt like i needed to explain why he's scum, i would do that

This is how scum!Desperado works everybody.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like Chess and Elli
Tomorrow you are giving me scum!Desperado's flip
no matter fucking what.

He is not town.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Because ~reasons~
What are those reasons?

he soft claimed pr in an open

Yep
therefore he has to claim
becaues VTs can't soft PR

[Mikan Tsumiki]

-looking at watch- So, I might have been wrong. It'll be Desp and Mikan that go the 4 pages

Hi do you feel like being useful or...

[Mikan Tsumiki]

-looking at watch- So, I might have been wrong. It'll be Desp and Mikan that go the 4 pages

Hi do you feel like being useful or...

I could ask the same. But right now I'm watching you death tunnel Desp as hard as you can, when really we need to focus on group B. So, I think you got your hands full right now.

wtf even is this a wifi password?

Like
what am I supposed to be doing when I'm voting CMM and waiting for him to show up.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like I sorted out most of Group B I just need to sort out CMM atm.
There isn't really much of Group B I need to "focus" on.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

-looking at watch- So, I might have been wrong. It'll be Desp and Mikan that go the 4 pages

Hi do you feel like being useful or...

I could ask the same. But right now I'm watching you death tunnel Desp as hard as you can, when really we need to focus on group B. So, I think you got your hands full right now.

wtf even is this a wifi password?

Like
what am I supposed to be doing when I'm voting CMM and waiting for him to show up.

CMM is

honestly

meh. He's not too impressive. Easy to look at, go "well that LOOKS like an easy pick for lynch, imma vote it".

I want CMM to come play the game so I can sort it.
it is the only slot in the group that I don't have a read on.
Come bus it'll be fun

[Mikan Tsumiki]

And it won’t be me.

So you claim.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
no wonder all your friends are dead

[Mikan Tsumiki]

jesus crist I am so used to playing on MU for a second I thought there was a request votecount button

[Mikan Tsumiki]

@MODS Prod people and #doyourjerbs

Yo Creature wanna vote ConMan with me so we can get him to play?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Thanks Friend~

Fuck I kinda wish I knew, but according to Eddie we need to "Focus on group B" lol

Want to sync up?
Its not like there's anything else better to do.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I scumread it, since mostly I don't really understand how Town can get a strong read off of Snarky's two post with the anlysis he provided.
However the aggressiveness he presents here can come from town.
However I feel like if he wasn't groupscum he would getting a lot more attention then what he currently is getting since he claims to be lynchbaity.

I'm kinda leaning scum on him right now.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

jesus crist I am so used to playing on MU for a second I thought there was a request votecount button

Lol is MU that good?

I got invited to play on there a few times but I doubt I’ll mesh.

Yep!
They have a modbot where you can request votecounts on demand.
Play is also better because people care. People caring makes the game rewarding, fun, and challenging.
They also use discord for deadchats/scumchats

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I scumread it, since mostly I don't really understand how Town can get a strong read off of Snarky's two post with the anlysis he provided.

I also townread Snarky off a few posts.

Ok
but the read he presented
was extremely strong.
Town doesn't have the information to present a read that strong based on those two posts.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Have you seriously never seen a town player do this/see it done like half the time by scum players?

Which is why I am voting CMM and trying to sort that slot.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Pretty much.
I want to sort CMM to attempt to find out where to go next basicly, and if I townread him after he starts playing the game then re-evaluate my own reads.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

If I still scumread Momo after the re-evaluation that's where I'm going.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I scumread Mikan now.

Good job
A+
10/10
Amazing Read

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Why is Alisae being scum read BTW

Oh young WhyMafia.
When I'm actually town
everybody scumreads me for no reason.
Get with the program man

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I assume Thor has a reason, so I'm not talking about him.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

And good luck getting me lynched, I have people townreading me for basically existing.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I would sheep Elli

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I would sheep Elli

Last I checked I am available to be lynched.

U-Uh. I can do a very good pig impression!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oink Oink!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I would sheep Elli

how's the weather on Mars?

I'm sorry! Please stuff me in a rocket and send me to space!

[Mikan Tsumiki]

tbh
I'm starting to get townfeels from momo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

HEY MOMO
I TOWNREAD YOU

[Mikan Tsumiki]

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[Mikan Tsumiki]

dam forgot the bold

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Who we're totally not lynching today out of Group B?

Luv
Rauth
Maybe momo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Snarky is someone I expect to be town later in the game if they are town since they pretty much always lurk

I tr majiffy but some people don't
That leaves cmm and thor

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Ik it's like his lack of understanding of mechanics makes him town even after playing in the first one

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Oh wait it does

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Yeah we'll see about that after I hardbus CMM and get all of the cred for it.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like
sorry for having good reads
seesh

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Ik it's like his lack of understanding of mechanics makes him town even after playing in the first one

Oh wait it does

Considering your 'whoops, ruling out people as scum together in the same group, silly me!' moment - this thought process makes you my assured desire for death tomorrow.

Actually ya know what
nah
you're explaining this more.

I really don't feel like letting you slide with "I suddenly scumread Mikan because LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL"
I believe you're better then that.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Well, for starters - feel free to justify the 'suddenly' because I've been expressing some issues with you for at least a day or two now.

Secondly, I think you proving some self awareness about the idea that setup slips are townish increases the chances of you, as scum, choosing to try a setup slip, and you otherwise have appeared quite comfortable and aware of the setup besides your slip, which made it feel not too legit to me.

If you think my attempts at a setup slip are faked then I dunno what to say.

--

Mikan's progression is fake news and if you can't see it then you probably need to visit an optometrist.

man fuck off

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like Trans
when did you become so dogshit at this game?
Seriously.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Desperado is like basicly locked scum
So I mean
you're probably just a traitor
but if you flip town you're just
playing extremely badly

and I kinda don't want to deal with it.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Like
you're tunneling me
you only tunnel me when I am town.
You know this.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

you legitmately
cannot read me.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

When have you led a lynch on me when I was actually scum.

pedit: My lack of awareness.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Actually Trans
when was the last time you even voted me when I was actually scum.