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I think this is the first actual serious post I saw. While I don't necessary agree with tchill, I like the thought process that he has in this post. Shows that he's looking for tones in others posts, and he isn't worried about himself so far.In post 76, Tchill13 wrote:In post 27, Wossi wrote:Putting up a disclaimer like Derpy did doesn't do anything to advance the town, and makes it more difficult to gather tells. Does making a first-post disclaimer like that null all future texts? It shouldn't...
don't see how that's not scum hunting, prodding for clarity on actions that are unusual or untownlike
Wossi is scum. Found a half ass "this will make me look towny" reason to vote someone day 1 early.In post 28, Wossi wrote:and to not be a hypocrite, because day one votes are important.
VOTE: Derpy Hooves
VOTE: wossi- Animetrix
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This post gives me bad feelings, I feel as thought that it's a cheap reason to just jump on a vote early. There is really no explanation why they would sheep the vote. Maybe he was still making joke posts after the first actual scum read of the game? Either way. both reasons give me reason to pause.In post 80, Xiao Long wrote:Bah, fine
I'll just sheep the Wossi vote then VOTE: Wossi
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This is the 2nd post that gave me pause about Xiao Long, that reasoning for the vote is a stretch at best. And his questioning seems like it's fake. "Are you saying you know alignments already?" Sounds like a very bad post to me, because the post he's replying to didn't make it seem that way at all. I think he's trying to make it look like he's scumhunting, when he really isn't.In post 113, Xiao Long wrote:Isn't everyone assuming things at this point? Are you not assuming things? Are you saying you know alignments already?
VOTE: Derpy
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At this point of reading the posts, I noticed that others were picking up my scum vibes for Xiao as well. This post seems just like jumping on a wagon, though. Again no explanation, and it looks like trying to be busy by voting, while asking a question to deflect of the vote.In post 146, Dunkerdoodles wrote:hello friends
VOTE: Xiao
scummy imo
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Do you think you can try to show me the posts that you don't like? Or is it more on tone from experience?In post 157, Apple Jack wrote:Wossi is definitely scum. I just don’t know how to convince people.- Animetrix
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Flavor Leaf, I like the fact that you are trying to make your reads known with the graph thing you are doing, but I would like some more expansion on some of them. Like your tone read on Nauci, what about their tone? Is there a certain post? Cause I haven't seen anything alignment indicative so far from them.- Animetrix
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Is this directed to me? Or possibly is it to help explain the read on which I asked you to expand on?In post 212, Flavor Leaf wrote:so I thought about it, and I was going to move him up, but at the same time he there’s no reason as to why any of the stuff he stated couldn’t have come from scum. I don’t know him really, though, so I don’t know if it doesn’t make sense for him to play that way as scum. Does it, animetrix?- Animetrix
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This is a questionable statement. But, I do agree that it could be likely that one of the people in neighborhood is mafia sided. I do think it's likely wossi as well, if that were the case. I think I still think Xiao has been more questionable.
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Can you expand on this? All I did was catch up. It would help me analyze you better. I personally don't see what I could have done in the catch up to make you think I'm one of your top town reads so far. But, perhaps that is just my skeptical nature.In post 229, Nauci wrote:Animetrix (shoutouts to Animatrix) as towny- Animetrix
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Interesting, but I suppose I can understand this thought process. But, I must ask. Would nervous scum really be trying to put themselves into the conversation and asking for reads, rather than blending in completely?In post 240, Wossi wrote:I really don't like how Animetrix indirectly asks town to confirm his thoughts in so many of his posts. Like nervous scum trying find reassurance that they're blending in.- Animetrix
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Well, that's an interesting reason to vote me. Have you taken into consideration that I'm still trying to sort everyone before laying down a vote? It's why I've been asking questions. I don't like this reasoning for voting me, though. It seems like the first mention of someone suspecting me slightly, you tried to jump on it.In post 245, Xiao Long wrote:Animetrix also doesn’t vote me for whatever reason despite apparently being her number 1 scumspect.
VOTE: Animetrix
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In post 278, Xiao Long wrote:FOS Everyone with fewer posts than the mod.I'm not quite sure what you are trying to accomplish here...
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I can't comprehend the point you're trying to get across. What makes me an 'overly-eager' scum hunter, when I've only scum read two people so far? Also, you're saying that me not voting yet, makes me scum? How so? What is the thought process behind that?In post 377, Wossi wrote:VOTE: Animetrix
Also for such an overly-eager scum hunter he doesnt have a vote on anybody. There's plenty of choices, no good reason not to vote- Animetrix
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For someone who wanted Wossi so bad earlier, you were very quick to switch. You are just going to switch because "they seem smart"?In post 449, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
derpy's town meta is to bus other towniesIn post 435, Lord Gurgi wrote:Hello, I'm replacing Sheep. Mod hasn't announced it yet, hope this is okay.
Gonna call Derp Hooves/Xiao Long team.
- Xiao Long claimed scum in his first post.
- When feuds aren't actually trying to lynch each other, it's a distancing technique. Seriously, they've been feuding since Derpy's first post.
- First post admitting that they won't be lynching their reads. In this case, we even get an explicit admission that they won't lynch their read/feud in Derpy's first post. Second post admits to a desire to cast the hammer. Scum behavior.
- Couching scumreads as "I don't like anti-town behavior". This is an attempt to build deniability for leaving the wagon if it accidentally grows. Calling it now that Derpy will attempt to defuse any Xiao Long wagon. "I just dislike him, that's not a reason to lynch him".
- Always wagon "fake" hammers.
PS. Hey Porkens, long time.
i saw a game where derpy was scum though and talking about wanting to manipulate his meta by hard tunnelling someone
could be happening here, i''d see him hard bussing early
you seem smart, i'll trust you for now
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So you say that you think Nauci is my partner, correct? But, your originally statement was that I was trying to get assurance from town because I was nervous scum. If the post was directed to Nauci, how does that make them my partner by your logic?In post 521, Wossi wrote:Yup! Let's get this day over. Please lynch Wossi before he keeps drawing attention to me and my bumbling partner.- Animetrix
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So now you're saying it's the way I speak? I am trying to gather reads, at the time of my last post, we were only 3 posts in, and I had already given 4 reads, so your point doesn't make sense here. What exact substance are you talking about?In post 527, Wossi wrote:Overly-eager in tone, not in actual results. If you were producing reads and results, I wouldn't be scumreading you. The tone and energy with zero substance is what you makes you a fraud.- Animetrix
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You have to realize that from my point of view, it looks like you latched on when Xiao said they thought I was suspicious, and you jumped on the bandwagon. Especially after I stated I scum read you. Would that not be enough to suspect you? Besides the other things that I already posted about you that I didn't like.- Animetrix
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Why are you trying to misrep me? I clearly said I scumread you and Xiao. And I also clearly stated I had a semi town read on Derpy and Tchill. This is 4 reads that I gave, and I explained them all. But, you state that I had no substance. Which is clearly a lie.In post 204, Animetrix wrote:Ah, okay. The neighborhood post. I didn't read into it until I was doing my quoting, but I understand what you mean now.
Like: Derpy, Tchill
Don't like: Wossi
Really don't like: Xiao- Animetrix
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This is a peculiar group of people. I can understand Derpy, but may I ask why on the other 2?
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So you really think that if he was scum he would blow up the neighborhood? Why wouldn't he just try to buddy you and get on your side? Possibly eventually getting you to Town Read him enough for you to fake claim Mason with him?In post 694, Wossi wrote:
No, intention is clear. You slipped and now your backtracking. You implied there was action in the thread when thee was none.In post 690, Apple Jack wrote:
That wasn’t what I was implying. At least it wasn’t my intention. Even after I shut it down your last post was saying I’m making a mistake. Clearly I wasn’tIn post 684, Wossi wrote:"No town would dare make this terrible of a post while blowing smoke up my ass saying you assume I’m town and trying to get me to talk with you."
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This is present tense, implying that I made post 165 while simultaneously talking to you in the neighborhood. That's false. You are being dishonest and attempting to manipulate town to push my lynch.
Now I understand why you shut the neighborhood down so quickly and for so little reason. You were afraid YOU we're gonna slip up. And then you turned it against me to cover up! Of course scum isn't going to want ANOTHER front where they have to keep a consistent deception. You tried to give yourself a free pass!- Animetrix
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Isn't this a contradiction? You said that derpy and wossi were tvt, but then you put derpy in the next post? Dunkerdoodles has become highly suspicious after this post.In post 734, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i think there is a scum in (xiao, gurgi, derpy)- Animetrix
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Oh, wossi caught it as well. I think I definitely prefer lynching Xiao over wossi now for certain.In post 738, Wossi wrote:Dunkerdoodles wrote:stop this tvt madness and lynch xiao
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Tvt nonsense but Derpy's in youe scum pool? Huh?In post 734, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i think there is a scum in (xiao, gurgi, derpy)- Animetrix
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I think after this post, I'd be fine with lynching Dunkerdoodles.In post 750, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i guess ill lynch derpy if we want to
This order of lynching preference for today: Xiao -> Dunkerdoodles -> Wossi- Animetrix
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Interesting, what brought upon this change?In post 799, Nauci wrote:anime to null- Animetrix
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Perhaps because I'm trying to sort them?In post 849, Wossi wrote:In post 239, Animetrix wrote:
Can you expand on this? All I did was catch up. It would help me analyze you better. I personally don't see what I could have done in the catch up to make you think I'm one of your top town reads so far. But, perhaps that is just my skeptical nature.In post 229, Nauci wrote:Animetrix (shoutouts to Animatrix) as towny
Why does he only make these posts to Nauci?In post 815, Animetrix wrote:
Interesting, what brought upon this change?In post 799, Nauci wrote:anime to null- Animetrix
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In post 850, Wossi wrote:It just looks to me like scum trying to get guidance from a buddy
What he said. Also, this seem like a poor reason to push on someone. Do you really think that someone as scum would openly ask guidance from their partner? I find your logic flawed. Why did you not consider I was laying false associations as well? Because you have a one track mind on trying to force a scumread on me and not trying to sort me, that is why I think you are scum. You still haven't given a good reason for scum reading me at all, this being further proof, wossi.In post 851, Apple Jack wrote:
Scum have day chat so they could get guidance in their pf.In post 850, Wossi wrote:It just looks to me like scum trying to get guidance from a buddy- Animetrix
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Well this is an awful post. How does me posting = me being indicative of my alignment? I just happen to log on one time a day, so that automatically makes me less town? I don't understand what you mean by impact as well.In post 882, Nauci wrote:Not enough posting. Like, I gave you town cred because your posting seemed like it was going to be very useful, but then you kind of didn't post nearly as much or have nearly as much impact as I had hoped.- Animetrix
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I agree. Also, the ones that aren't prodges are awful posts (the ones I quoted earlier.)In post 897, wavemode wrote:My compelling argument is all of dunker's posts are basically prodges
This can die
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I suppose I see where you come from.In post 919, Nauci wrote:
It's not that I scum read you. It's more like I was town reading you because your posts showed you have a play style that would mean really good questions and engagement draw from others. I thought you'd have great potential to do that. But the hopes and expectations town read had a cool down and waned because the engagement and activity I'd thought you'd go on to extract from other players didn't really come to fruition. I want to see you ask alignment pulling questions of others that you asked of me. So null until then.In post 915, Animetrix wrote:
Well this is an awful post. How does me posting = me being indicative of my alignment? I just happen to log on one time a day, so that automatically makes me less town? I don't understand what you mean by impact as well.In post 882, Nauci wrote:Not enough posting. Like, I gave you town cred because your posting seemed like it was going to be very useful, but then you kind of didn't post nearly as much or have nearly as much impact as I had hoped.- Animetrix
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I agree with this 100%In post 941, Chickadee wrote:Derpy has been pretty transparent the whole game. It looks like you're looking for reasons to scum read him, Wossi. He was reassessing, and furthermore, I don't think anything derby has done this game has been done quietly.- Animetrix
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It would be great if you could explain why and which posts.In post 965, Flavor Leaf wrote:Guys, wossi’s just scummy town.
I keep looking at his posts, and he’s very the epitome of mislynch bait.- Animetrix
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Well this is interesting. Why do you scumread me? Because based on your catchup, it seemed you agreed with mostly everything I've been saying. So for you to suddenly put that label on me is a red flag.In post 971, davesaz wrote:Animetrix - weak scum, I think I'm getting this feeling because it doesn't flow but I wouldn't put much faith in the read- Animetrix
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No. Lynch should be Xiao, Dunkerdoodles, Wossi. In that order of preference.In post 998, Lord Gurgi wrote:
Would you compromise for a Nauci lynch?In post 984, Porkens wrote:How many more pages do you people need?- Animetrix
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I've clearly said I've scumread Wossi, so I don't get what you're trying to say. He's just last on my preference for today. Xiao and Dunkerdoodles are both higher.In post 1041, Nauci wrote:Dave, Gurgi, Anime, Dunk: you're all okay with how much Wossi inaccurately portrays what people have said? Are you saying he hasn't been doing that, or that you don't scum read what he does?- Animetrix
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In post 197, Animetrix wrote:
This post gives me bad feelings, I feel as thought that it's a cheap reason to just jump on a vote early. There is really no explanation why they would sheep the vote. Maybe he was still making joke posts after the first actual scum read of the game? Either way. both reasons give me reason to pause.In post 80, Xiao Long wrote:Bah, fine
I'll just sheep the Wossi vote then VOTE: Wossi
P-Edit: Hey look man, it's not my fault I'm stupid at forum tags!In post 198, Animetrix wrote:
This is the 2nd post that gave me pause about Xiao Long, that reasoning for the vote is a stretch at best. And his questioning seems like it's fake. "Are you saying you know alignments already?" Sounds like a very bad post to me, because the post he's replying to didn't make it seem that way at all. I think he's trying to make it look like he's scumhunting, when he really isn't.In post 113, Xiao Long wrote:Isn't everyone assuming things at this point? Are you not assuming things? Are you saying you know alignments already?
VOTE: Derpy
Let's go back to here for nowIn post 286, Animetrix wrote:
Well, that's an interesting reason to vote me. Have you taken into consideration that I'm still trying to sort everyone before laying down a vote? It's why I've been asking questions. I don't like this reasoning for voting me, though. It seems like the first mention of someone suspecting me slightly, you tried to jump on it.In post 245, Xiao Long wrote:Animetrix also doesn’t vote me for whatever reason despite apparently being her number 1 scumspect.
VOTE: Animetrix
Anime gimme some realnessIn post 287, Animetrix wrote:In post 278, Xiao Long wrote:FOS Everyone with fewer posts than the mod.I'm not quite sure what you are trying to accomplish here...
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I hear that's the worst. I hope you feel better soon.
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I'm not sure you should go by this logic. Perhaps mafia killed because they thought the person was a power role.In post 1170, Lord Gurgi wrote:I also think wavemode's death makes Porkens look bad.- Animetrix
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@Derpy, well this was their last vote.In post 910, wavemode wrote:
Got itIn post 907, Porkens wrote:I can think of a reason.
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How so? Can you explain? Wossi had a town post or 2 which is why I shyed away from wanting to lynch him towards the end. But, I haven't seen one from Xiao. Can you explain what makes him Lynch-bait over mafia?In post 1185, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Yeah, no. Xiao was mislynch bait just likeWossi.In post 1183, Animetrix wrote:Still think Xiao is the best lynch today, unless someone can change my mind somehow.- Animetrix
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He at least has a town post or 2. I can't find anything from Xiao that would lead me to believe they are town.In post 1191, Chickadee wrote:Wossi was in your lynch pool yesterday. I know he wasn't your preferred lynch, but was still a possibility. Have you not reconsidered at all?- Animetrix
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Why this sudden change?
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First of all, why are you answering for Dunkerdoodles? This looks a bit like defending. If we are trying to put pressure on him, how does it help for you to answer for them. Secondly, Dunkerdoodles never actually explained why they changed, which is the premises of the whole argument against Dunkerdoodles.In post 1223, Lord Gurgi wrote:Derpy why can't dunkerdoodles have decided to reevaluate? Your read on XL is not materially different from his read on you.- Animetrix
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Interesting, what does that have to do with me? I clearly wanted Xiao yesterday and was not on the Wossi lynch. What makes him a mislynch? No one has given me a reason as to why. If you honestly think this, why aren't you giving me reasons to change my mind?In post 1227, Flavor Leaf wrote:which leaves me to believe either Lord or Animetrix is scum. I’m leaning Lord.- Animetrix
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@DerpyIn post 1235, Animetrix wrote:Can someone that townreads Xiao tell me why? @Derpy, since I think you're town and you seem to town read Xiao, can you explain to me since it seems no one else can? - Animetrix
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