Beneath The Mask [Endgame]

PenguinPower · Post Post #457 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:31 pm

Hyped for this. Not hyped for 18 pages of pre-game.

PenguinPower · Post Post #464 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:50 pm

In post 458, Creature wrote:How long do you take in average to read each page?

Depends on my motivation. Right now I'm not motivated to read pre-game unless consensus is that it's super important.

PenguinPower · Post Post #473 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:14 pm

In post 465, Varsoon wrote:Oh, also, I'm Hated except in Mylo/Lylo.

Makes sense if you know the flavor at all.

PenguinPower · Post Post #478 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 474, Varsoon wrote:I do,
My role's pretty flavor'd up.

You played the game and know the flavor?

PenguinPower · Post Post #483 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:33 pm

In post 481, Varsoon wrote:I'm not asking anyone to out themselves, I'm just openly brainstorming some mechanics here.
If you think I'm anything but town, you're a loon.

I think you are for now based on flavor, but your hated role didn't seem to reflect in the vote count.

PenguinPower · Post Post #485 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:43 pm

My bad, looked at the wrong side. Assuming it was going to show 2 votes.

PenguinPower · Post Post #486 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:43 pm

Why are we voting Ellibereth? Pre-game or random?

PenguinPower · Post Post #488 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:49 pm

That's cool, I guess. We have vote tags now. Change the b to a v. Looks cooler.

PenguinPower · Post Post #507 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:23 pm

In post 501, Purple Nurple wrote:if you won't read pregame that's trash, because whether or not it should have happened there was a shit ton of content this pregame that is VERY relevant for sorting people properly. it isn't useless garbage.

Probably should point out the things you think relevant, because I'm not reading 18 pages of pregame crap.

PenguinPower · Post Post #509 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:29 pm

Don't wonder what's happened if you suddenly cannot post anymore, LUV. It's simply me abusing site powers to win the game.

(*sigh* despite my jovial nature, I feel I have to state that the above was done purely in jest, and that I, as a site representative, would never abuse said powers *sigh*)

PenguinPower · Post Post #510 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:30 pm

Still not reading pre-game.

PenguinPower · Post Post #521 (isolation #11) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:46 pm

In post 511, Purple Nurple wrote:Like... everything from pages 3-16. It isn't pregame crap at all, it jumped straight into content.

Can it be summarized, or are you telling me I have to go read things? I don't like reading things from the past.

PenguinPower · Post Post #818 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:45 pm

Ann(e) Takamaki is not receiving a Traitor role. Sorry. Won't ever believe it.

So, Mulch may be bad town, but is not scum unless someone cc's that claim.

PenguinPower · Post Post #827 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 821, Ellibereth wrote:
In post 818, PenguinPower wrote:Ann(e) Takamaki is not receiving a Traitor role. Sorry. Won't ever believe it.

So, Mulch may be bad town, but is not scum unless someone cc's that claim.
scum get fakeclaims dude

Ann is not going to be a fake claim. At all.

PenguinPower · Post Post #838 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:49 pm

In post 831, Creature wrote:I don't think any role can be excluded from being a fakeclaim besides Akira.

I find it extremely hard to believe that one of the original PTs would be a fake claim given the opening game circumstances and Ali relying on flavor being alignment indicative. Anyone else, sure, but not the first three.

PenguinPower · Post Post #840 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:50 pm

In post 839, Ellibereth wrote:Dude the point of fakeclaims is for them to be realistic.
Frodo can be a fucking fakeclaim in lotr mafia.

I don't play many games where mod states that "flavor is alignment indicative."

PenguinPower · Post Post #842 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:51 pm

Regardless, that's the game we're in.

PenguinPower · Post Post #862 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:58 pm

In post 843, Ellibereth wrote:flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM

means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.

But not a bunch of PTs. FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT indicative.

Scum fake claim is probably in Haru/Makoto since both have (somewhat for Makoto) scum-aligned relationships. Goro wouldn't be a good fake claim.

Ryuji/Ann, in my mind, cannot be fake claims given flavor. Yusuke/Futuba would be weird fake claims, so unlikely.

There's also a slew of support characters that could be fake claims, so I'm not certain that any PTs are fake claims.

PenguinPower · Post Post #865 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:00 pm

In post 863, Varsoon wrote:Oh, cool, then.
I'm Ryuuji/Skull.
Guess that makes me conf!town.

I knew you were with your Chariot comment.

PenguinPower · Post Post #876 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:04 pm

In post 873, Ellibereth wrote:
In post 862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 843, Ellibereth wrote:flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM

means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.
But not a bunch of PTs. FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT indicative.

Scum fake claim is probably in Haru/Makoto since both have (somewhat for Makoto) scum-aligned relationships. Goro wouldn't be a good fake claim.

Ryuji/Ann, in my mind, cannot be fake claims given flavor. Yusuke/Futuba would be weird fake claims, so unlikely.

There's also a slew of support characters that could be fake claims, so I'm not certain that any PTs are fake claims.
FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE means scum MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PT FAKECLAIM.

Not that they DON'T have a fucking pt fakeclaim.

Great. And if they do, I told you which ones make the most sense from a flavor perspective.

PenguinPower · Post Post #918 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:22 pm

In post 911, RationalNumbers wrote:No we better not believe it. For fuck's sake, we were explicitly told that Scum have fake claims. Alisae isn't an idiot so the fake claims aren't shitty, which means basically anyone EXCEPT the main protagonist can be a fake claim. You are smart enough to realize this, so I'm definitely giving you the stink eye for that post.

He's not a shitty mod, and he's great at flavor. I've outlined my theory regarding it, so feel free to dispute, but that's where I'm at.

In post 911, RationalNumbers wrote:P-edit: What the heck are you going on about with the multiple PTs thing PP?

PTs = Phantom Thieves - not Private Topics.

PenguinPower · Post Post #968 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:40 pm

@mod: Sorry. I have to replace out.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1004 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:03 pm

In post 1001, Purple Nurple wrote:WHY ISN'T KEY A WAGON???? IDIOTS.

Key doesn't have a replacement yet so what's the point?

PenguinPower · Post Post #1006 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:04 pm

No. I'm not replacing. I had a thing happen. I'm good now.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1008 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:04 pm

In post 1005, Ellibereth wrote:are you replacing out because of too much yelling

But, yes, too much yelling is happening.

PenguinPower · Post Post #2001 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:53 pm

Ok. I'm back.

I'll be caught up by the morning.

PenguinPower · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:34 pm

Ugh, prod, sorry. I'm here, and will finish catching up.

PenguinPower · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 2357, Varsoon wrote:Oh, I was pretty sure Yume was claiming to be one of Igor's servants, who are the twins, Caroline & Justine.
They have access to 'execution' kinds of powers.

This is most likely given the hinted at duality and role - and even in terms of "flavor is alignment indicative" - is completely NAI. J&C were servants of the fake Igor (Yaldabaoth), but their true form (combined as Lavenza) helped the Protag.

That said, Yume indicated that she was one-shot lynch proof, and has an ability that can be confirmed...so...moving on.

PenguinPower · Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:46 pm

Has Purple been entirely Eddie this game?

PenguinPower · Post Post #2436 (isolation #29) » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:58 pm

Oh, hey, a VC.

VOTE: Smocaine

PenguinPower · Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:14 am

In post 2440, ChikoritasInAction wrote:
In post 2436, PenguinPower wrote:Oh, hey, a VC.

VOTE: Smocaine
why

Because I town read most everyone on it.

PenguinPower · Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:16 am

In post 2444, ChikoritasInAction wrote:his entire iso is basically just flavour speculation and when he catches up after like eight days of absence he doesn't actually post anything

Not sure how many times I've said this, but let me make it very clear. The only reason I am in a large theme game is because I love the flavor, and it is expressly indicated that flavor is alignment indicative. Discussing flavor in this game, unlike many,

is

helpful.

PenguinPower · Post Post #2449 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:42 am

In post 2448, Yume wrote:Actually, my flavor is Sae, and I am not technically lynchproof, I just can escape my own lynch once. There is a difference between the two.

Makes less sense role wise, but is still a NAI. Sae started out hunting the PTs but ended up helping them.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3000 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:34 pm

In post 2994, Ellibereth wrote:also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.

Ohya is second best.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3003 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:34 pm

That's nice.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3006 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:35 pm

In post 3004, Ellibereth wrote:
In post 3000, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 2994, Ellibereth wrote:also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.
Ohya is second best.
i'm breaking my don't engage scum rule for this

who's best girl

Ann.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3008 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:36 pm

In post 3005, Mulch wrote:Penguin can u link me a recently completed scum and town game?

No. You can not be lazy and search.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3013 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:37 pm

In post 3010, Mulch wrote:
In post 3008, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3005, Mulch wrote:Penguin can u link me a recently completed scum and town game?
No. You can not be lazy and search.
What

Uh...search.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3022 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:39 pm

In post 3019, Mulch wrote:Stop being unhelpful and just link it, thanks

No. If you want to use meta, find it yourself.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3033 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:44 pm

In post 3027, Ellibereth wrote:This me getting engaged with the flavor.

It's a great game. Especially Valentine's Day given certain circumstances.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3043 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:47 pm

PenguinPower · Post Post #3060 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:58 pm

In post 3052, Purple Nurple wrote:Eli/dave/chess/creature/leon/chara/ram/smoc

Unsure with chess, Leon, and ram. Disagree on smoc. Rest I agree.

Also, I think VC 1.36 is incorrect. Chess is on two wagons.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3204 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:56 pm

In post 3189, RationalNumbers wrote:God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World

-- Scum are sent a calling card first post.

Why didn't you copy the whole role? Why are people not understanding what a Nexus does?

"God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World will be redirected to someone else."

PenguinPower · Post Post #3208 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:03 pm

In post 3207, Mulch wrote:
In post 3204, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3189, RationalNumbers wrote:God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World

-- Scum are sent a calling card first post.
Why didn't you copy the whole role? Why are people not understanding what a Nexus does?

"God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World will be redirected to someone else."
Wanna talk about the game? Who are your scums

In post 3060, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3052, Purple Nurple wrote:Eli/dave/chess/creature/leon/chara/ram/smoc
Unsure with chess, Leon, and ram. Disagree on smoc. Rest I agree.

I'm bad at Day 1...especially in a large. I need some time to sort more. Also, as I said before, you are town. Absent a confirmed guilty, I won't deviate from that.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3211 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:14 pm

If we're going off of pure game spec, there is 5 scum + possible traitor. That's unlikely given a 22 person setup.

5 scum or 4 scum + 1 traitor.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3213 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:18 pm

Traitor

PenguinPower · Post Post #3215 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:22 pm

Don't know. This isn't the normal queue, so I have no idea.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3254 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:00 am

In post 3247, Brian Skies wrote:So what are your thoughts on Shadow Ann?

I didn't think about it. She wasn't a main character, or even really real since she only existed in Kamoshida's cognition, but I guess it could be possible.

In post 3251, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Penguin

well, it's D2, start play game

Uh...I am? I mean, vote me if you think I'm scum, but that was a bad reason.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3257 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:25 am

PenguinPower · Post Post #3506 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:52 pm

I'm pissed that Ann was a scum fake claim.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3508 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:54 pm

Oh, no. Now I get to spam post with impunity. Plus, I still have some tricks up my sleeves this night phase.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3510 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Shocker!

PenguinPower · Post Post #3512 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Also, really pissed I rolled scum in a game that I was really looking forward to.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3513 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:02 pm

VOTE: Brian Skies

PenguinPower · Post Post #3515 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:03 pm

PenguinPower · Post Post #3516 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:03 pm

Worried?

PenguinPower · Post Post #3519 (isolation #56) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:04 pm

Cool.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3522 (isolation #57) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:05 pm

<<Still town.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3523 (isolation #58) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:05 pm

In post 3521, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Poor young woman!

Meh. Futaba was the worst.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3526 (isolation #59) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:17 pm

You think I'm going to tell you truthful things? Maybe...what's it worth to you?

PenguinPower · Post Post #3530 (isolation #60) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:30 pm

Right? I'm not

that

bad...I just hate being scum. Thanks, Dunn. Oh, wait...no...Dunn would have voted me.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3531 (isolation #61) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:30 pm

Ok.

VOTE: Smocaine

PenguinPower · Post Post #3534 (isolation #62) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:37 pm

That's because I'm not scum. I do want to die though.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3535 (isolation #63) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:37 pm

Just had to wait for the calling card.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3536 (isolation #64) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:39 pm

One more.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3538 (isolation #65) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:48 pm

In post 3537, Smocaine wrote:Town aint perfect lol.

Neither is third party.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3539 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:49 pm

Promotion complete. Done for tonight.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3543 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:52 pm

Should I kill you Creature? Or Brian?

Undecided at this point. Smocaine is obvs off the table.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3544 (isolation #68) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:54 pm

In post 3542, Creature wrote:From these, I'd eliminate Yume, so you got a list of four to choose.

Why would

you

eliminate Yume?

PenguinPower · Post Post #3548 (isolation #69) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:56 pm

In post 3546, Smocaine wrote:yume died n1.
I am not tp.

Way to ruin it...damn.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3549 (isolation #70) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:58 pm

VOTE: Chikorita

PenguinPower · Post Post #3551 (isolation #71) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:08 pm

Nah, Brian is town.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3553 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:12 pm

Ok.

VOTE: Brian

PenguinPower · Post Post #3554 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:12 pm

No...wait.

PenguinPower · Post Post #3555 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:12 pm

VOTE: LUV

PenguinPower · Post Post #3557 (isolation #75) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:18 pm

VOTE: Creature

PenguinPower · Post Post #3559 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:19 pm

VOTE: Chara

PenguinPower · Post Post #3560 (isolation #77) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:21 pm

VOTE: Creature

PenguinPower · Post Post #3564 (isolation #78) » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:35 pm

It is better to ignore me (though, not sure that's different from when I'm town).

Happy I hit 5000 in the game though. This is probably my last under this name.

Sucks it had to be as scum. I simply love the flavor of the game.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4163 (isolation #79) » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:24 pm

PenguinPower · Post Post #4177 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:30 am

I'm probably going to spam it up for 3 days just because.

PenguinPower · Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:50 am

I'm gonna absquatulate from this thread.

Happy Halloween.

PenguinPower · Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:58 am

Gladly.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4210 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:54 pm

VOTE: Creature

PenguinPower · Post Post #4212 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:19 pm

I love you davesaz. Please don't kill me.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4265 (isolation #85) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:45 pm

You wanted to.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4267 (isolation #86) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:53 pm

You wanted to.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4271 (isolation #87) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:26 pm

In post 4269, Smocaine wrote:I've skimmed this phase pretty lightly since I was pretty behind and saw that there was a game locking gladiate. Would someone be so kind as to spoonfeed me some claim stuff? who was bus driven n1 and were there any claims aside from varsoon and cia?

I'd be glad to help. Let me type up a summary for you.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4273 (isolation #88) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Summary

PenguinPower is Town
Davesaz is scum

Vote Davesaz. The mod lies.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4274 (isolation #89) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Also, moonpies are yummy.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4275 (isolation #90) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:36 pm

they're actually gross. don't eat one

PenguinPower · Post Post #4276 (isolation #91) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:36 pm

PenguinPower · Post Post #4278 (isolation #92) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:37 pm

PenguinPower · Post Post #4280 (isolation #93) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:39 pm

Lost at this point, then.

Gonna start typing out MSI lyrics and see how long 'til I get banned.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4282 (isolation #94) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:42 pm

O'sorry. If only I wasn't so mindless and self indulgent.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4284 (isolation #95) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:49 pm

Aww...I'm hurt.

You love me cause you know that I can rock

PenguinPower · Post Post #4286 (isolation #96) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:51 pm

You love me cause you know that I can rhyme

PenguinPower · Post Post #4289 (isolation #97) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:53 pm

You love me cause you know that I can [damnit, I'm a mod].

PenguinPower · Post Post #4290 (isolation #98) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm

Come on. Someone post something so I can finish the verse.

PenguinPower · Post Post #4293 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm

You love me cause you know that I'm on time.

Thanks, Ali

PenguinPower · Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:13 pm

I'm deadman walking. Let me have my last request. Damn.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:18 pm

prod dodge

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:26 pm

dodging the prod

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:39 pm

Hi, LUV. How are you?

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:09 pm

:sadpenguin:

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:39 pm

I did

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:39 pm

Pretty sure I could help you solve the game.

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:45 am

I'm not hyped.

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:06 am

I blame you tbh.

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:41 am

Your apathy makes me happy.

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:08 am

There's no way I can be alive tomorrow.

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:26 pm

28 minutes, all! Are you hyped?!

I'm super hyped!

PenguinPower · Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:36 pm

I'm town.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:22 pm

In post 5926, Brian Skies wrote:I think Ann...are the worst, but that might just be me.

You're playing with fire...take it back.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:23 pm

Also, thank you so much Ali for running this game. I was sad I rolled scum, but still had a great time, and truly appreciate all of the work that went into it.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:26 pm

Also, would like an answer now:

@mod: who do you consider to be the Akira's canon romance?

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:39 pm

Didn't see, I asked in the scum thread.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:40 pm

Lame answer btw. You can't just bow out of that discussion.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:49 pm

Psh.

You were a Valentine's Day harem then.

PenguinPower · Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:45 pm

You have many positives, smith. You aren't helping.