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Depends on my motivation. Right now I'm not motivated to read pre-game unless consensus is that it's super important.In post 458, Creature wrote:How long do you take in average to read each page?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Makes sense if you know the flavor at all.In post 465, Varsoon wrote:Oh, also, I'm Hated except in Mylo/Lylo.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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You played the game and know the flavor?
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I think you are for now based on flavor, but your hated role didn't seem to reflect in the vote count.In post 481, Varsoon wrote:I'm not asking anyone to out themselves, I'm just openly brainstorming some mechanics here.
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Probably should point out the things you think relevant, because I'm not reading 18 pages of pregame crap.In post 501, Purple Nurple wrote:if you won't read pregame that's trash, because whether or not it should have happened there was a shit ton of content this pregame that is VERY relevant for sorting people properly. it isn't useless garbage.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Don't wonder what's happened if you suddenly cannot post anymore, LUV. It's simply me abusing site powers to win the game.
(*sigh* despite my jovial nature, I feel I have to state that the above was done purely in jest, and that I, as a site representative, would never abuse said powers *sigh*)<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Can it be summarized, or are you telling me I have to go read things? I don't like reading things from the past.In post 511, Purple Nurple wrote:Like... everything from pages 3-16. It isn't pregame crap at all, it jumped straight into content.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Ann is not going to be a fake claim. At all.In post 821, Ellibereth wrote:
scum get fakeclaims dudeIn post 818, PenguinPower wrote:Ann(e) Takamaki is not receiving a Traitor role. Sorry. Won't ever believe it.
So, Mulch may be bad town, but is not scum unless someone cc's that claim.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I find it extremely hard to believe that one of the original PTs would be a fake claim given the opening game circumstances and Ali relying on flavor being alignment indicative. Anyone else, sure, but not the first three.In post 831, Creature wrote:I don't think any role can be excluded from being a fakeclaim besides Akira.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I don't play many games where mod states that "flavor is alignment indicative."In post 839, Ellibereth wrote:Dude the point of fakeclaims is for them to be realistic.
Frodo can be a fucking fakeclaim in lotr mafia.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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But not a bunch of PTs. FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT indicative.In post 843, Ellibereth wrote:flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM
means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.
Scum fake claim is probably in Haru/Makoto since both have (somewhat for Makoto) scum-aligned relationships. Goro wouldn't be a good fake claim.
Ryuji/Ann, in my mind, cannot be fake claims given flavor. Yusuke/Futuba would be weird fake claims, so unlikely.
There's also a slew of support characters that could be fake claims, so I'm not certain that any PTs are fake claims.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I knew you were with your Chariot comment.
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Great. And if they do, I told you which ones make the most sense from a flavor perspective.In post 873, Ellibereth wrote:
FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE means scum MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PT FAKECLAIM.In post 862, PenguinPower wrote:
But not a bunch of PTs. FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT indicative.In post 843, Ellibereth wrote:flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM
means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.
Scum fake claim is probably in Haru/Makoto since both have (somewhat for Makoto) scum-aligned relationships. Goro wouldn't be a good fake claim.
Ryuji/Ann, in my mind, cannot be fake claims given flavor. Yusuke/Futuba would be weird fake claims, so unlikely.
There's also a slew of support characters that could be fake claims, so I'm not certain that any PTs are fake claims.
Not that they DON'T have a fucking pt fakeclaim.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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He's not a shitty mod, and he's great at flavor. I've outlined my theory regarding it, so feel free to dispute, but that's where I'm at.In post 911, RationalNumbers wrote:No we better not believe it. For fuck's sake, we were explicitly told that Scum have fake claims. Alisae isn't an idiot so the fake claims aren't shitty, which means basically anyone EXCEPT the main protagonist can be a fake claim. You are smart enough to realize this, so I'm definitely giving you the stink eye for that post.
PTs = Phantom Thieves - not Private Topics.In post 911, RationalNumbers wrote:P-edit: What the heck are you going on about with the multiple PTs thing PP?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Key doesn't have a replacement yet so what's the point?In post 1001, Purple Nurple wrote:WHY ISN'T KEY A WAGON???? IDIOTS.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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But, yes, too much yelling is happening.In post 1005, Ellibereth wrote:are you replacing out because of too much yelling<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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This is most likely given the hinted at duality and role - and even in terms of "flavor is alignment indicative" - is completely NAI. J&C were servants of the fake Igor (Yaldabaoth), but their true form (combined as Lavenza) helped the Protag.In post 2357, Varsoon wrote:Oh, I was pretty sure Yume was claiming to be one of Igor's servants, who are the twins, Caroline & Justine.
They have access to 'execution' kinds of powers.
That said, Yume indicated that she was one-shot lynch proof, and has an ability that can be confirmed...so...moving on.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Because I town read most everyone on it.
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Not sure how many times I've said this, but let me make it very clear. The only reason I am in a large theme game is because I love the flavor, and it is expressly indicated that flavor is alignment indicative. Discussing flavor in this game, unlike many,In post 2444, ChikoritasInAction wrote:his entire iso is basically just flavour speculation and when he catches up after like eight days of absence he doesn't actually post anythingishelpful.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Makes less sense role wise, but is still a NAI. Sae started out hunting the PTs but ended up helping them.In post 2448, Yume wrote:Actually, my flavor is Sae, and I am not technically lynchproof, I just can escape my own lynch once. There is a difference between the two.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Ohya is second best.In post 2994, Ellibereth wrote:also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Ann.In post 3004, Ellibereth wrote:
i'm breaking my don't engage scum rule for thisIn post 3000, PenguinPower wrote:
Ohya is second best.In post 2994, Ellibereth wrote:also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.
who's best girl<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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No. You can not be lazy and search.In post 3005, Mulch wrote:Penguin can u link me a recently completed scum and town game?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Uh...search.In post 3010, Mulch wrote:
WhatIn post 3008, PenguinPower wrote:
No. You can not be lazy and search.In post 3005, Mulch wrote:Penguin can u link me a recently completed scum and town game?<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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No. If you want to use meta, find it yourself.In post 3019, Mulch wrote:Stop being unhelpful and just link it, thanks<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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It's a great game. Especially Valentine's Day given certain circumstances.
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Unsure with chess, Leon, and ram. Disagree on smoc. Rest I agree.In post 3052, Purple Nurple wrote:Eli/dave/chess/creature/leon/chara/ram/smoc
Also, I think VC 1.36 is incorrect. Chess is on two wagons.<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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Why didn't you copy the whole role? Why are people not understanding what a Nexus does?In post 3189, RationalNumbers wrote:God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World
-- Scum are sent a calling card first post.
"God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World will be redirected to someone else."<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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In post 3207, Mulch wrote:
Wanna talk about the game? Who are your scumsIn post 3204, PenguinPower wrote:
Why didn't you copy the whole role? Why are people not understanding what a Nexus does?In post 3189, RationalNumbers wrote:God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World
-- Scum are sent a calling card first post.
"God of Control (Real World Immunity / Nexus): You are immune to all actions that target you in the real world, and you cannot be sent a Calling Card. Any action except for killing actions that targets you in the Real World will be redirected to someone else."
I'm bad at Day 1...especially in a large. I need some time to sort more. Also, as I said before, you are town. Absent a confirmed guilty, I won't deviate from that.In post 3060, PenguinPower wrote:
Unsure with chess, Leon, and ram. Disagree on smoc. Rest I agree.In post 3052, Purple Nurple wrote:Eli/dave/chess/creature/leon/chara/ram/smoc<(") | (")>- PenguinPower
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I didn't think about it. She wasn't a main character, or even really real since she only existed in Kamoshida's cognition, but I guess it could be possible.In post 3247, Brian Skies wrote:So what are your thoughts on Shadow Ann?
Uh...I am? I mean, vote me if you think I'm scum, but that was a bad reason.
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