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[Wickedestjr]

This is the point when I decided Skitter was town

Why is that?

And this is when wicked started looking really scummy. Taking quotes out of context smacks of ulterior motivation, and nothing quoted here warrants a L-2 vote

As for 324, I'm obviously not saying L-2 votes are scummy. It's just a lack of significant reasoning to justify putting someone close to lynch. And his quote from my post 34 was for sure taken out of context. I was responding to TwoInAMillion's confusion over Wavemode's claiming town vs. Flubber's claiming scum. None of that is clear from the quote Wicked chose to crop out of the full post.

Okay thank you for explaining that. I understand now that I may have taken that comment out of context. The way you worded it "You are what you say you are, if you say you're scum you're scum" makes it sound as if that's your own belief rather than you describing HEM's reason for voting Flubber. But I retract that point now.

As for putting you at L-2, I don't believe that there's any danger in L-2. The only danger is that someone might accidentally hammer, but it takes two votes to quick hammer someone from L-2. Plus I am generally active enough that I can un-vote when someone makes a terrible L-1 vote.

Because I thought either or both of you might be scum and I didn't want to say "Oh, I'm voting to apply pressure and get reactions!" because that kind of defeats the point.

I don't understand how people seriously thought I was making a serious accusation on page two. No one catches scum on page two.

This seems like a contradiction. If you were voting to apply pressure/get reactions and didn't want people to know that you were doing that, then why are you now expecting us to realize that you weren't making serious accusations? There was no reason to think that 40 and 70 weren't serious posts. In general, I'm having trouble believing that your Flubber/skitter attack was just a reaction test considering the way that you discredited Flubber's scum claim.

Unvote. Vote: Wossi

(L-3)

I think I would shoot Implosion.

Why would you shoot implosion instead of me?

[Mulch]

Since when is indecision scummy?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAfart

What

[Flubbernugget]

"why is making sure my options are open for the lynch scummy"

[Mulch]

"why is making sure my options are open for the lynch scummy"

Why can't town not be 100% sure on something?

[Flubbernugget]

Wicked, I don't like that the best you can come up with to vote wossi is looking all the way back to the beginning of the thread.

[skitter30]

Mulch, can you respond to 491?

[Wickedestjr]

Lalendra's vote might be the scummiest thing to happen so far. I dont think anyone thought that wagon was leading to an imminent lynch, so dropping the L-1 after it had just been criticized from Serg and asking for a claim no less looks really scummy to me. Lalendra basically just decided for all of us that it was time to end the day with a wossi lynch.

Either her or Serg should be the ones being wagoned. I'm honestly going to be throwing my vote to whichever one of those two others are willing to vote.

Let's make it happen.

unvote: serg, vote: lalendra

Come on guys let's have a real wagon!

Do you have a preference between Lalendra and Sergtacos? Do you think they could both be scum?

If I was scum right now I would be going in the mafia chat. Hope this can help peolle think I'm town.

This comment feels weird to me because it relies on the knowledge that scum have day chat. You went straight to the OP immediately after replacing in to check if scum had day talk?

[Mulch]

In post 373, Mulch wrote:
If I was scum right now I would be going in the mafia chat. Hope this can help peolle think I'm town.
This comment feels weird to me because it relies on the knowledge that scum have day chat. You went straight to the OP immediately after replacing in to check if scum had day talk?

uhh

I guess I assumed

Haven't read the OP actually

[Mulch]

@mulch:

Why do I feel like you're just cycling through names until you find somebody you don't think I'm going to put up a fuss about?

Like you dropped Serg/Flubber with almost no effort on my part. And both of those, and the push on Chip now, almost feel like policy.

I feel like you're just bs'ing everything. 'Wossi is town on meta'. 'Serg is town on meta'. I don't know about the wossi one, but I got you to agree on the Serg meta read pretty easily.

You demonstrably had no idea what I was talking about with Wossi (you didn't know about how Flubber entered the game, and my wossi read is inextricably linked to Flubber's entrance), so I don't see how your claims that my read on wossi is bad are credible.

What's the question you want answered?

[Mulch]

"why is making sure my options are open for the lynch scummy"

Why can't town not be 100% sure on something?

[skitter30]

@mulch:

Why do I feel like you're just cycling through names until you find somebody you don't think I'm going to put up a fuss about?

Like you dropped Serg/Flubber with almost no effort on my part. And both of those, and the push on Chip now, almost feel like policy.

I feel like you're just bs'ing everything. 'Wossi is town on meta'. 'Serg is town on meta'. I don't know about the wossi one, but I got you to agree on the Serg meta read pretty easily.

You demonstrably had no idea what I was talking about with Wossi (you didn't know about how Flubber entered the game, and my wossi read is inextricably linked to Flubber's entrance), so I don't see how your claims that my read on wossi is bad are credible.

What's the question you want answered?

a) Why are you suggesting policy lynches on three different players?

b) Why did you back off of Serg (75% of being scum!) and Flubber ('Let's lynch lurkers!') so easily after I disagreed?

c) Why are my reasons for scumreading wossi bad when you clearly didn't know what they were/understand the context?

a+b makes it look like you're pushing any old mislynch that doesn't have that much resistance to it.

[Wickedestjr]

Wicked, I don't like that the best you can come up with to vote wossi is looking all the way back to the beginning of the thread.

I'm not going to give him a free pass for something just because it happened early on. His explanation doesn't make sense. After what page number can I look for reasons to vote someone?

[Mulch]

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@mulch:

Why do I feel like you're just cycling through names until you find somebody you don't think I'm going to put up a fuss about?

Like you dropped Serg/Flubber with almost no effort on my part. And both of those, and the push on Chip now, almost feel like policy.

I feel like you're just bs'ing everything. 'Wossi is town on meta'. 'Serg is town on meta'. I don't know about the wossi one, but I got you to agree on the Serg meta read pretty easily.

You demonstrably had no idea what I was talking about with Wossi (you didn't know about how Flubber entered the game, and my wossi read is inextricably linked to Flubber's entrance), so I don't see how your claims that my read on wossi is bad are credible.

What's the question you want answered?

a) Why are you suggesting policy lynches on three different players?

b) Why did you back off of Serg (75% of being scum!) and Flubber ('Let's lynch lurkers!') so easily after I disagreed?

c) Why are my reasons for scumreading wossi bad when you clearly didn't know what they were/understand the context?

a+b makes it look like you're pushing any old mislynch that doesn't have that much resistance to it.

A) It's not PL, it's just a PoE read

B) Because he voted someone to L-1, and I like flubber's day 1 post

C) Your scumread is based on a day 1 post...

[skitter30]

A) It's not PL, it's just a PoE read

B) Because he voted someone to L-1, and I like flubber's day 1 post

C) Your scumread is based on a day 1 post...

A):

Any lurkers we can lynch?

I've found that getting rid of those lead to town wins

I can't read chip because I'm pretty sure he's negative value regardless of his allignment.

If there's a vig, shoot him. If he flips town or scum we benefit

How are these not policy?

B/C): Why can you townread someone because of their day1 post but I can't scumread them on a day1 post?

[Mulch]

A) It's not policy because he's in my PoE but OUT of the people in the PoE, he's the most useless


B) Because day 1 scumreads are almost always wrong, plus yours is wrong casuse he had a perfectly towny day 1

[skitter30]

A) It's not policy because he's in my PoE but OUT of the people in the PoE, he's the most useless


B) Because day 1 scumreads are almost always wrong, plus yours is wrong casuse he had a perfectly towny day 1

A) Those two quotes were describing two different people, and I still don't get why those aren't policy lynches. That's literally what you're doing: 'out of my PoE he's the most useless' - how the heck is that not a policy lynch? You're not voting based on alignment, but based on how useful you think he is.

B) No he hasn't, and you haven't been able to show me why he hasn't a towny day1. And what kind of generalization is that? Day 1 scumreads can be right? how else do scum get lynched day1?

[skitter30]

VOTE: Mulch

I think L-3. I still have to read HEM again, but probably will be staying here for the rest of the phase; might go back on Wossi, *maybe* wave.

I will not be involved in any wagon on someone Mulch tried to push, including Flubber, Chip, and Serg.

[Mulch]

A) LIterally any of the 3 I'll wagon. No preference. So I guess he's a MINI policy lynch between the 3.

B) PAGE ONE SCUMREADS sorry, not day 1

[skitter30]

A) LIterally any of the 3 I'll wagon. No preference. So I guess he's a MINI policy lynch between the 3.

B) PAGE ONE SCUMREADS sorry, not day 1

A) THAT IS DESCRIBING A POLICY LYNCH ON LITERALLY THREE PLAYERS, TWO OF WHOM YOU JUST SAID YOU WEREN'T INTERESTED IN WAGONING.

B) I mean . . . I moved off of Wossi, so . . .

[Wossi]

I'm just going to point you to 149 cuz I did this like four times already.

And can you talk about this meta? Or is this the same ongoing game that wave is referencing that he can't talk about.

I can't talk about the meta, and it's not from waves game.

What are you talking about? The ongoing game that I played with wave is the only game I've played.

VOTE: Mulch

It's very susp to me how you just came out of the gate declaring you were gonna town lock me. I've played pretty badly early in the day, i've contradicted myself and made errors of judgement. But then again, it seems like you didn't even read before declaring me town?

Only scum knows for sure I'm town. And it's pretty clear I'm a top candidate for a mislynch, I've been at L-1 twice already. It makes sense for scum to come in defending me hard, and then when I flip green they get to reap town points and say "See? I've been saying Wossi is town since I replaced in, I'm confirmed."


P-Edit: L-2, then

[Mulch]

Welp


I PoEd the game and are being mislynched by my townreads


@skitter, I don't townread any of the 3, I just want them all gone because everyone else I townread

[TwoInAMillion]

unvote

I think both Wossi and Mulch are scummy, but I definately don't want day to end early and Wossi's vote on Mulch makes me unsure on which is scummier.

[Mulch]

unvote

I think both Wossi and Mulch are scummy, but I definately don't want day to end early and Wossi's vote on Mulch makes me unsure on which is scummier.

We're both town

[skitter30]

Welp


I PoEd the game and are being mislynched by my townreads


@skitter, I don't townread any of the 3, I just want them all gone because everyone else I townread

how can you possibly townread 9 players when you demonstrably have not read the game

The dude you're locktowning based on meta just said he's only played one game and since you're apparently not metareading him from that game, ??????

And two of the people who you proposed policy lynches on are voting you.

[skitter30]

unvote

I think both Wossi and Mulch are scummy, but I definately don't want day to end early and Wossi's vote on Mulch makes me unsure on which is scummier.

+1

Two, you get a townlean again, yay.