Mini 1966: A Howl At Midnight Blitz (Game Over)

[drealmerz7]

awwooooooooooo!

[drealmerz7]

srceen, it's that supposed to be a vote for both of us or one of us and if 1 who ?

I need to know so I know how to feel and what to think!

also, PPL, I have a SMALL 'd'

[drealmerz7]

awwooooooooooo!

Wolfy
VOTE: drealmerz7

I know

he's gotta be scuM!

VOTE: drealmerz7

[drealmerz7]

I really wanted to be a wolf

wolves should be scared

cause I'm going to come at them so hard because they took being a wolf away from me

FUCKERS GONNA DIIIEEEEE

I mean I guess I could hope to be recruited but I don't see that happening with this PL

well, maybe Desp would take the pity on me? but ultimately don't think he wouldn't waste a NK on me as scum unless I was onto him and making a good push on him which ya right gludkc there butya he more likely to just try and manipulate me one way or another to scum advantage so ugh, no chance of getting recruited really I think

DESP ARE YOU SCUM?!

[drealmerz7]

so many times

[drealmerz7]

self-contradicting how?

and no no, you misread, I said I didn't roll scum, and I'm upset about that AND GOING TO COME AT THEMMMMM

[drealmerz7]

at them like a BLITZ

from the edge

won't know what hit 'em


AWHAMMMO

[drealmerz7]

srceen, you didn't answer about what the dealyio is with that vote you cast

[drealmerz7]

& !?

& ?!?!?!

I DON'T EVEN GET MY OWN VOTE TAG ?!?!??!

?!!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[drealmerz7]

now THAT is a lie!!!

LIIIEEEEEE

FoS!

[drealmerz7]

0 on that entrance

total 0

[drealmerz7]

werewolves QUIVER IN FEAR AT MY PRESENCE

[drealmerz7]

woooo!

[drealmerz7]

These are all reasons to not respond to this post.

and yet you respond to it...

[drealmerz7]

wow, those are fast reads and that is a serious vote? and you don't know ppl here?

you sure aren't from around here! *keeps eye on mutantdevle*

[drealmerz7]

we're accusing people of LYCANTHROPY HERE

IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS

and you voted

[drealmerz7]

one of the great things about the age of the internet, you can look it up AT YOUR FINGERTIPS with EASE

[drealmerz7]

lycanthropy is a mental illness causing the person to believe that they are a wolf

nono

it's an actual physiological affliction that turns someone into a wolfbeastperson !

p-edit: oh good I was wondering where srceen's vote is officially

[drealmerz7]

never know if there is some weird vote mechanic! until the mod displays in the VC and you can trust the game has no lies anyway

but ya, I was curious/wondering, not caring

[drealmerz7]

UNVOTE: drealmerz7

I was at L-1, but not claiming because of the self-vote from RVS

I like my wagon though !

beautiful

[drealmerz7]

Vote Count

drealmerz7 - 6

(RedFlavor, drealmerz7, randomidget, Tchill13, mutantdevle, Kokichi Oma, )

mutantdevle - 2

(Srceenplay, Maki Harukawa, )

mutantdelve - 1

(Radical Rat, )

TChill13 - 1

(Fresh, )

Not Voting

- Desperado, Dunnstral, WhemeStar

With 13 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch

Activity Check - Start of Day

Deadline:

(expired on 2017-11-27 00:00:00)

Mod Note - 24 hours added to Day 1 deadline due to Thanksgiving

[drealmerz7]

terrible

horrible

awful

mutant at 3, combine those

UGH

*runs crying*

[drealmerz7]

that was the vc before I unvoted obviously, I shared it that way because it's good to see the form

GOOD FORM GOOD FORM!

[drealmerz7]

at least you can edit yours!

[drealmerz7]

our vote numbers may be the same

BUT WE'LL NEVER BE EVEN

[drealmerz7]

psh, with that lack of conviction in your desire to see it, your disappointment is unjustified

PUSH IT IF YOU WANT IT

[drealmerz7]

I have no feel for tchill or anyone around him, I could go for mutantdevle or srceen

they feel good

[drealmerz7]

Okay since this day doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and everyone is still null I think we should just lynch randomly.

So I assigned everyone a number between 1 and 13 based on where thier name is in the mods post.

First of all I got the number 12 which is my number. But I don’t want to lynch me so I randomised it again.

So I got the number 7. That’s RedFlavor. So RNGesus says we lynch him.

VOTE: RedFlavor

No u

VOTE: mutantdevle

this feels like it could be 1 scumbud poking another to participate and the other doing some theatrics with the omgus vote that is "too blatant to be scum" doesn't feel towny to me

[drealmerz7]

mutant, there is no need to do stupid stuff, people get a lynch done before deadline, don't worry

[drealmerz7]

why is which wagon switching? huh?

[drealmerz7]

Mutant

dude

use fucking words

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: mutantdelve

yep, let's do this one

[drealmerz7]

it's not an actual 1v1 just when there are 2 wagons, tchill

[drealmerz7]

dayvig or night vig?

[drealmerz7]

why do you think you'll get shot tonight? don't you think scum (2 of them) are likely to want to leave you alive because odds are you shoot town?

[drealmerz7]

also, if I were scum I'd figure the mod doesn't make a vig. the recruitable role, and so another reason I'd not target you if I were scum

so, if you can share your thought process behind thinking you'll be shot N1, I'd love to hear it

[drealmerz7]

why do you think you'll get shot tonight? don't you think scum (2 of them) are likely to want to leave you alive because odds are you shoot town?

Well obviously if I survive that’s a huge bonus, I just don’t expect to.

that doesn't address the point of my post

[drealmerz7]

orrrrrrrrr

let's not

so you don't want the main wagon but we're closing in on deadline and you're solo on wheme, tell me why we should vote wheme or why you think mutant isn't a good idea?

[drealmerz7]

yep am definitely good for a srceen lynch

[/unvote]mutantdevle[/unvote]

VOTE: screenplay

[drealmerz7]

why is that interesting?

willing to flash kokichi

[drealmerz7]

Hey! I'm here! I was "silenced" for the start of the Day - I feel like this has to have been a scum ability? pretty anti-town ability to silence players, especially in a blitz, especially considering the Day has been shortened, giving me even less opportunity be involved in this Day

someone didn't like what I was saying/doing yesterday, methinks!!!

who could have that been? I think srceen is by far the most likely

combine that with my read on him yesterday, the fact that he's still alive as a cop (before we knew he was useless), and how things have gone today? and the fact that he's essentially useless gives him more excuse to not be NKed, that's just a formula for that slot being very likely scum

it's REALLY bad to play guessing games with a hider's actions, with a hider you check for crumbs - there are NO CRUMBS that I see (and I'm quite good at picking up crumbs) - so for me then the only other thing to consider is that they denoted their target with their vote, while it's not guaranteed, I think it's what is most likely / makes the most sense

[drealmerz7]

I mean, unless a fellow towny would like to claim that they silenced me ?

[drealmerz7]

24hrs

uhh, why do you think I'm full of shit? why would I make that up?

[drealmerz7]

and why am I suddenly scum with random? please show your thought process

[drealmerz7]

use words, holy fuck man, I already said this to you once

I think you're not using words because you know the less you use the less can be used against you

"just that" - elaborate, USE THE WORDS THAT ILLUSTRATE YOUR THOUGHTS

uhh, why do you think I'm full of shit? why would I make that up?

[drealmerz7]

what does ISOing me have to do with anything?

you mean you have to search for things to try and paint me as scum with?

[drealmerz7]

what about rando's vote on me makes you think we're buddies ?

seriously, you need to use more words

[drealmerz7]

is it the vote? the phrase before his vote?

see why you need to use words? I can't read your mind

[drealmerz7]

That’s not true. You played with me enough to know that’s not how I play. So don’t try to use it against me.

WHAT'S NOT TRUE?!?! I have played like 3-4 games with you? that's not enough for anything imo

especially since I don't think I've seen you as scum?

Why are you arguing with pretty much confirmed scum.

to get extra sure that they are scum by reading their responses

to help illustrate to others that they are scum by continuing to go at him

also never know when someone else might out themselves by involving themselves in the interaction in whatever way

if it weren't for the wheme likelihood I'd be pushing srcreen as the lynch and probably not taking no for an answer

[drealmerz7]

I was just about to vote wheme and was like "wait I better check the votes"

he's at L-1

claimtime

[drealmerz7]

huh?

[drealmerz7]

I can't even follow your non-logic

you are flailing scum, it's kind of sad

want to just hammer your buddy before he has to come fakeclaim to try and gain some towncred?

[drealmerz7]

tell me then, how long had the Day been going ?

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: whemestar

[drealmerz7]

yeah no

[drealmerz7]

tell me then, how long had the Day been going ?

23hours and 58 minutes

try 36hrs...

[drealmerz7]

I even was given a handy countdown timer in my PM

the Day started at 1am Tuesday

it is now 1+pm wednesday

that is 36+hrs

wheme: I honestly try not to guess at why you do stuff because I don't think you know how to play very well

[drealmerz7]

Lol.
I’m so dense

no, just desperate to paint me as scum

wheme you're getting lynched because it's most likely that mutant hid behind you

[drealmerz7]

plus silence is a way more likely a scum ability

srceen, seriously? his claim came from an L-1, not from a "ohyo, I'm town and that is my ability"

[drealmerz7]

ohdeargoodness

did srceen just confirm that he knows wheme is town ?????

[drealmerz7]

why? because you silenced someone you didn't want voting you?

or because you lied about the ability?

[drealmerz7]

well, I'm ready to speedlynch srceenplay ...

[drealmerz7]

is this a mix of amnesia mafia?

Day 2 still...

silly tbone

[drealmerz7]

oh sure

now it switches as I make the post

...

[drealmerz7]

it looks like fresh simply wasn't around when srceen claimed to call BS and CC him on D1

then on the next Day

I don't see how your role is useful then if you get a result of not mafia (or presumably mafia). We know already there's 11 town and 2 werewolves at the start of the game.

seems like he's poking at the claim but doesn't want to out himself as cop? (harder to do that after a NL and not an immediate CC, so I can understand the hesitance to outright claim the next Day for fresh, though I still probably would have just done it if it were me)

guessing scum picked up on that and killed him

[drealmerz7]

Mass claim?

WHAT?!

[drealmerz7]

massclaim just helps scum more than town at this point and I FoS you a bit for suggesting it

andya, no idea why mutant didn't crumb, I was sure his vote had to be his target

really sick of town playing like shit and scum having easy games because of it

[drealmerz7]

someone else is probably better explaining to a noob, simply, them knowing the setup in its entirety gives them advantage

if you like open games, go to the open queue, seriously, people on this site claim wayyyy too early so much, you don't massclaim in a closed until xYLO

where am I wishy-washy?

[drealmerz7]

I don't see any crumbs in your ISO either.

huh?

[drealmerz7]

how is that wishy-washy?

why are you looking in my ISO for crumbs? and why is it a problem that you didn't find any?

and who the fuck is hansel?

[drealmerz7]

if you like open games, go to the open queue, seriously, people on this site claim wayyyy too early so much, you don't massclaim in a closed until xYLO

I did not know this was a rule in closed games.

who said it was a fucking rule?

okay you can just be bad scum

[drealmerz7]

wow, you are such a scumfuck

willing to lynch th4t today too

[drealmerz7]

I don't think there's a single obtuse thing I've said, I've been pretty clear

I don't tend to vote hastily/early in Days, even in a blitz, I like a good portion if not all of the PL to chime in first

[drealmerz7]

I like to be patient and I know things can interupt / distract and it's not impossible that I stick my foot in my mouth here but...

yeaaahhhhh....pretty that was just scum who was biting at the wrong ankles and finally gave up because they realized it was exposing them

[drealmerz7]

*sure

[drealmerz7]

Let me solidify your weak scum read on me.
VOTE: Drealmerz

I have a life my bro. I come and go like wh4t.

pay attention, it's no longer a weak read, I flatout called you scum with confidence

you also haven't addressed much that I've thrown back at you

you simply conveniently disappeared and then came back with "life, bro"

BRO?!?

YEAHHHH

[drealmerz7]

how about you make a list of things you believe I haven't answered and I'll give you the courtesy of responding to your concerns.

this is a scum tactic

ignore the shit that you don't want to address when it happens, then come back when called on it and be like "oh what were your concerns?" to make it more difficult and to take them more out of context

I'm just going to ignore you for now and come at you tomorrow cause pretty sure this game is in the bag with you+srceen dead and your buddy will become exposed

I know there is a chance scum wasn't recruited but I go by worst case scenario for shit like that

[drealmerz7]

ftr that isn't 'confirmed' that is just 'uhh duh'

[drealmerz7]

GO DIE

[drealmerz7]

"I'ma throw doubt on the obviously best-choice srceen lynch and then rolefish a bit AND THEN indicate another person is scum"

if I were on your scumteam I'd be fucking furious with you, and busing the shit out of you

[drealmerz7]

Be careful. You are going to end up on dreal lynch list.

no that sort of stupidass comment and vote definitely gets townpings

[drealmerz7]

FOS dreal for

trying to send Town into a death spiral.

what does that even mean? just (more) rhetoric from you trying to get me killed, surprise surprise

wtf are all the players?

this is a blitz, folks, GET IN THE FUCKING GAME

VOTE: srceenplay

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: drealz
You are not even trying.

Trying to push fake answers that just fell into your lap.

I don't even know what the fuck this means

and you didn't answer my last question to you about the death spiral

[drealmerz7]

nah, dreal is town he's just getting distracted

you're the one here with the most experience with me, but how do you know I'm town? or, how did you get that read? though I do think I've been pretty towny (at least moreso than I am sometimes!)

[drealmerz7]

how about someone just explain to me why we're not speedlynching srceen at this point?

and not some nonsense theory of "well he'll get a mafia result on a towny who has mafia flavor" - because that is beyond fucking stupid

[drealmerz7]

BECAUSE I'M NOT A FUCKING HIDER

[drealmerz7]

your town frustration is unmistakable and always has been.

hmmm

I can get pretty frustrated as scum too, though I'd say it's less flaily and more coherent than what I do as town

I'll have to work on that

[drealmerz7]

be assured, if there is reason to crumb, I crumb

there is no reason to crumb, and I think you're (talking to wh4t here) a scum sort of cop that got a non-vanilla result on me and have been fishing for what my role is since

[drealmerz7]

*triggered remembering when dunnstral thought I was crumbing in mystic mafia when I wasn't*

[drealmerz7]

tchill might be scum but I don't want to lynch anyone but wh4t or srceen today, the feeling is VERY STRONG

a town PR doesn't out another towny as having a PR like that

[drealmerz7]

I think scum (especially srceenplay) crapped themselves when they saw fresh flip cop and now are going all in on there being multiple cop-type roles because srceen is exposed and it's the only chance they have

[drealmerz7]

Well I wanted to mass claim and your reaction was pretty bs.

why is that reaction BS? massclaim is a terrible idea

you're going to get that reaction from me pretty much every time a massclaim is proposed prematurely

and your proposal was SOOOO FUCKING PREMATURE - I can't help but continue to scumread it combined with your assertion that it's not a bad idea still

[drealmerz7]

scum should've posted by now instead of staying silent and letting us tear each other up.

this is something I can see as possible too

[drealmerz7]

no that is not what confirmation means

[drealmerz7]

I'll relook.

I think everyone should look

I might think I'm great at crumb spotting but it doesn't mean I'm flawless

but I've looked multiple times and see nothing I can figure as a crumb

[drealmerz7]

FRESH DID NOT FLIP COP AND SAYING HE DID TO TRY AND PUSH A SCREENPLAY LYNCH IS DELIBERATELY ANTI TOWN

He flipped Police CAPTAIN which implies the existsnce of a cop for him to be captain of, thus corroborating Screenplay's claim.

Dreal and Oma are scum

it's like you didn't even follow my reasoning

it doesn't corroborate shit!

srceen, the reasoning I'm seeing is, as I already explained, you claimed cop, didn't get a CC, cop flips (and it is really scummy IMO to try and push the idea that the fucking POLICE CAPTAIN isn't a fucking COP ROLE), you're painted into a corner and now have to sell this idea of multiple cop type roles

the fact that wh4t now also says he is neopolitan is the only thing that is making me go "well hmmm maybe there is something to what RR just said" - but I'm not scum with an agenda, this is simply my read on the situation and I hate getting SR simply because I see something differently - RR isn't even trying to work with me or talk to me about it, he's simply decided I'm scum because of it, ridiculous

[drealmerz7]

RR also said "the people pushing srceen as confirmed are the scumteam" - well guess what? I speciifcally said it's NOT confirmed, to kokichi who was saying it was confirmed

but yet he doesn't make any distinction there

fishy as fuck

[drealmerz7]

this is a blitz though

no one should be coasting or lurking in a blitz

[drealmerz7]

btw if I were scum I'd have worried that my silence was a town ability that only worked on scum and not announced it

[drealmerz7]

aye, I'm down for removing lurksacks, usually best on D2/D3 in a 13p

[drealmerz7]

STU

slaughter

the

useless

[drealmerz7]

Alright dreal, you want to be engaged, riddle me this.

Why would T-Bone have called Fresh the Police Captain instead of just a Cop, if that's what the role is?

because this is a theme game, not a normal

what do you think his power most likely was?

[drealmerz7]

the same reason I'm a regular ________ and not something flavorful, because T-bone is a topnotch wifom troll mod who doesn't want his setups figured out by analyzing the roles

what use would a captain who can communicate to cops what actions they should take be at all? that's completely useless, why would srceen figure "oh my captain must make my role useful" and not consider the communication going from something more nefarious? just seems like too much

I'm not not considering it as possible, with the resounding 'multiple cops exist' message we're getting from you, srceen, and wh4t, the 4 of you would have to be "all in" in it and that seems a bit risky, but if none of you ever die, then not so risky, I suppose

not sure what the deal is with it but you can see how I'm suspect of it I'd hope?

[drealmerz7]

T-bone is a topnotch wifom troll mod who doesn't want his setups figured out by analyzing the roles

But the reasoning you are using to lynch people?

mainly YOU, not "people" but, there is this (not figuring out setups based on the roles) and then there is a cop flip and a cop claim and it is not unreasonable to want to lynch the cop claim after a different cop has flipped and to try and paint it as scummy rather than "umm, yo, no, multiple cops are likely a thing in this game" is scummy to me

[drealmerz7]

the same reason I'm a regular ________ and not something flavorful, because T-bone is a topnotch wifom troll mod who doesn't want his setups figured out by analyzing the roles

Then why are you trying to push a lynch based on analyzing the roles?

I addressed this in the 541

but yes, you've got me questioning it all more than I had been

but if you're all scum who have gone all in on this "multiple cop type role" shit, I'm going to figure it out, it's just a matter of time

[drealmerz7]

ehg, I can't help but read that ^ as a poor attempt at derpclearing oneself

[drealmerz7]

who you willing to sheep?

[drealmerz7]

hmmmm maybe you should read and catch up and then see if you have any SRs :þ

[drealmerz7]

ohhhhhhhkay then

that's a new one for me!!!

I just went and looked it up after maki said that

holycrap!

UNVOTE: srceenplay

[drealmerz7]

nope never heard of that role and when ppl were complaining about my push no one said it is a different role that exists separate from cop

[drealmerz7]

wh4t replaced redflavor

[drealmerz7]

oh shit, jokes!

Who replaced redflavor?

wh4t replaced redflavor

dunn: when?

me: no, what?

dunn: what?

me: right

dunn: who?

me: what!

[drealmerz7]

I think there is no way scum can keep up the fake cop shit until end game if that is what is going on so I'm inclined to let it rest (not saying to stop talking about it or poking around it and whatnot though) and just kill a useless lurksack today and that means:

tchill
desp
maki

seem to be the worst, that is order of preference

going to go ahead and

VOTE: tchill13

[drealmerz7]

Granted I think the same of dreal but at least he is taking a pause and I’m hoping reconsidering.

after the realization of the captain I'm waaayyyy less comfortable with your lynch, but I am still SRing you for a lot that isn't related to that (mostly the engagements with me where it seems like you are really trying to find reasons to paint me as scum - I'm liking your engagement with kokichi and get some good town pings there), and so it's a 'ehhhh' feeling, prefer to give it another Day and remove a useless and see what more knowledge might be figured about all this - and like has been said, just because the captain was town doesn't mean everyone else who has a cop-ish role is town - so yah, willing to let that work itself out a bit more

yeah, not liking kokichi at all with any of this, seems like they're 'stuck' on it too much

actually had bad feelings about that slot D1 but, as I tend to do with players I'm unfamiliar with, I tabled them to let the read grow more

at this point I think tchill is likely scum + the best lynch

[drealmerz7]

why don't you like a Tchill13 lynch, srceen? others, what's your opposition there?

[drealmerz7]

not liking kokichi at all in those exchanges with srceen but srceen is not sitting well with me for the most part either, pretty sure 1 of them is scum and gun to head I'd vote kokichi over srceen atm but wouldn't mind either of them being the lynch and still prefer tchill

if someone has a vig., shoot maki, holy crap!

RR, can you elaborate on the "mistakes" you and rando are talking about? is it just the lack of awareness of the captain role, or is there more to it?

[drealmerz7]

totally good with lynching wh4t, he's a strong scumlean

I just hate getting into D4+ in a 13p and having this many useless lurksacks around

maki
desp
tchill
rando (to a lesser extent but still not giving nearly as much as I'd like, feels like lurking to skirt rando to me)

RR isn't posting a lot but when he does at least it's readable content and so he's not useless

should have no useless lurksacks by D4

[drealmerz7]

Wrong

this was a bad response ^

but then

Your face is wrong.

this was worse ^^

:\

[drealmerz7]

yeah you redeemed after a bit at least

but cant' say I'd be sad if the lynch went to you

RR, do you think srceen can't be scum because of his claim + the captain, or what are your thoughts around that ? - I think all I know about what you think around that is that you find/found kokichi/me suspect for jumping on srceen in light of fresh flip, but that doesn't tell me what you think about srceen

[drealmerz7]

you are not in the slighest semi-confirmed holy fuck

you can die just for saying that shit

VOTE: srceenplay

[drealmerz7]

like I was all set to let you go another day

but holy fuck, that is just scumtasticness right there

[drealmerz7]

I'm adopting a zero tolerance policy for people saying confirmed or semi-confirmed when it's not even in the slightest bit close to that

towns need to get their shit together

fucking sick of shit play

and now that the game is over I can also say even if you are town I have ZERO TRUST in your ability to do well towards end game after what happenedin XP mafia

[drealmerz7]

With the captain and my uncountered cop claim I was semi confirmed.

absolutely not

we've got a neapolitan claim

the existence of a captain does not make you more likely town, at all

in fact, that was the whole issue before, it didn't make you scum, but it DOES NOT make you town either

and pushing the narrative that it does is only something scum do

[drealmerz7]

and yet you argue that yours makes you semi-confirmed town...

yaaaa

hammer feels goooooood

[drealmerz7]

BUSTED SCUMFUCKER

p-edit: so what if there was no counter? scum can have cop roles and there's no way a mod is going to make a captain and then give them a list that only contains town cop roles

[drealmerz7]

so you think wh4t and I are scum together now?

[drealmerz7]

ehhh, I just got a sick feeling...

And that's hammer. Goodnight.

I'm still here because I'm waiting for threadlock and a flip...

this post seems like "well my work is done and I know the flip result so I'm going to bed"

srceen if you're town I am not sorry, you don't get to have it both ways, "they're troll roles!" and "but this one makes mine legit and town!" and about two dozen other reasons I'm SRing you no related to any of the role stuff

[drealmerz7]

I don't give a fuck about "looking better" and that is not a back pedal, it's called knowing I don't know for sure yet reaffirming my decision that it was a good one

pretty sure I've pointed out a lot of the reasons I SR you if ppl want to grill me about it tomorrow if you flip town they are welcome to

[drealmerz7]

Dude I asked for a VC and did not realise it was L1. I thought we had time to squabble but some opportunistic bastard hammered you after seeing the VC and without stating intent to hammer...

Don't worry srceen I'll avenge you!

wow this whole post is super scummy

and the underlined part is even moreso - totally fake

[drealmerz7]

he's neapolitan

wtf ppl pay attention to the GD game

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Day 3

blitz

it's not that hard to keep things in order

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why aren't there more people playing this game?

this isn't how I envisioned blitzes at all

it's like, just like a normal game, but Days are shorter

I thought posting would be more abundant and faster and the players would be more involved/active in a blitz

Maki is not mafia

this is funny

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shooting me would be a terrible waste of a shot

vig should shoot a useless lurksack

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I think 1 of you 3 has to be scum and I keep alternating between you and it's really annoying

I gotta get to bed

if there is a vig, DO NOT SHOOT ME

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yeah me pushing lynches doesn't make me town at all

I was all set to give srceen more time to sort until he tried pushing the "I'm semi-confirmed" narrative. Seriously so fucking sick of town saying that shit when IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE.

I think my mindset should be easily followable through all of that, BUT what I didn't say during it that I was thinking was that if srceen flipped town I am pretty sure either of kokichi or wh4t are scum in that group of the 4 of us that were going around yesterDay. I know I'm town and something just stinks in that.

I look at them both and I SR them both and if tchill is actually town (that I believe even if wh4t is scum, I don't think scum implicates a buddy there and with all the copstuff we have floating around no way someone is going to try and say someone has a role that they don't have)

so that gives me that scum are in 1 of kokichi / wh4t and:

maki (who I think is def. scum at this point and FUCK YOU ALL FOR NOT BEING ON MORE BOARD WITH LYNCHING USELESS PEOPLE. FFS I'm so fucking sick of scum winning by skirting and letting town eat itself apart)
desp
randomidget

to try and sort between wh4t and kokichi I think the main points on each of them for me become:

kokichi was done with EoD after my hammer, and then came back when I called him on it - I think this is the scum every way I look at it
wh4t outted that I have a PR AND his own role completely unnecessarily - I think this is possible town in light of what I originally thought earlier in the game of wh4t being somewhat noobish, which also combines with a few other things such as the thinking I should hav died after being outed as a PR, I don't really know that scum really tries to play that angle at all and makes sense with the other stuff as just being a little wet under the ears or wehatever that expression is

then I see wh4t and desp quickvote kokichi and that makes me unsettled

ugh

p-edit: posted and preview shows kokichi says same thing

ugh

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*scum at all

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why desperado over maki?

I'll leave random out of that because he's at least contributed more than those 2

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not that I'm arguing against you wanting desp, don't misunderstand that, just curious why you pick him over maki

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I think I'm okay with massclaim but I don't think it'll help but I guess never know

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I think scum would have planned to push TChill today. Kokichi had him as a scum read just before EOD and I'm sure he would have continued the push if I hadn't outed TChill as clean.

so why didn't you wait to see who would push tchill?

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when you claim you should claim your name as well as anything else because we might have flavor cops etc.

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I think scum would have planned to push TChill today. Kokichi had him as a scum read just before EOD and I'm sure he would have continued the push if I hadn't outed TChill as clean.

so why didn't you wait to see who would push tchill?

It helps us PoE better if it's known he's clean.

that doesn't answer my question at all

you could have waited and outted later

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uhhh, what? no, that is a legit question and we're still playing mafia

no way am I claiming this early

order should be

kokichi
maki
desp
rando
dunn
dreal

I've been more protown than most of the PL ffs, if dunn wants to go last that is fine I'll go before him but fuck me going after desp

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err before

FUCK I NEED SLEEP

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masons and a friendly neighbor?

that's fishy as fuck imo

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plus tracker AND others

seems like a LOT of town power for scum potentially only ever having 2

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it's not a matter of troll, it's a matter of balance

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ya tchill needs to go on the claimlist after rando now

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or at least say some shit before claiming goes on after that point

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ok maybe wh4t is just noob scum anxious for a ML holy crap

with tchill then

and maki lurking even more

why isn't a friendly neighbor more active in the game? makes no sense, should be out in front leading the charge

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it's like you're not even paying attention, wh4t

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and seriously if anyone has been a voice of reason in this game it's been me

over and over

you are ridiculous a bit, wh4t

[drealmerz7]

and seriously if anyone has been a voice of reason in this game it's been me

over and over

you are ridiculous a bit, wh4t

That whole statement is ridiculous. You've had zero reason and lead at least two mislynches. If we had mass claimed yesterday we could have tested the mason claim. Now we're at freaking mylo and you still refuse to claim and you're pointing fingers at anyone who finds you suspicious.

You call me noob scum but what kind of noob scum comes into the game claiming Town Neapolitan and outing you as a PR?? Noob scum would stay quiet and vote with the consensus as I wasn't even on the lynch radar! Your reason is illogical.

that's not what is happening at all and you either aren't paying any attention or are so set on some whacked scum agenda that you can't see how ridiculous it is

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pushing lynches and being wrong does not make one scum, holyfuck, I really can't tell if you're noob or just set on an agenda

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I am good with lynching maki now and holding on the rest of the claims as to not clue in other scums even more

I think she knows scum got their recruit because she was either it or is scum, and was trying to act like she was doing town a favor by "sharing the knowledge"

and about a half dozen other reasons that I think are pretty apparent

only thing I have in my list of things working against her being scum is that dunnstral is still alive, because my basic inclination is to think she'd kill him so she doesn't have to worry about him being on her or whatever

but then there are many reasons it doesn't need to be like that ^ at all and in the light of all the other scummmmmness of her it's not even close to an overweighing point

still holding off on voting for now though

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and about a half dozen other reasons that I think are pretty apparent

Let's hear it if there so blatant

boil it down to pick a single fucking post of yours and you either have to be 1.) actually not paying attention to pretty much anything at all (including the name of a guy who died - DAVE? huh?, but you know he died!) / caring at all 2.) pretending to not be paying attention or caring at all - I think the most likely is #2 and either way

the likelihoods from either of those choices all lean heavily scum

combined with

I think you are afraid to talk much and get caught so are doing #2 hoping to skirt by as so many ppl do as scum on MS, thinking it shouldn't be too hard to pull off (is my figuring of the most likely of your mentality, being familiar with you)

is it possible that kokichi is a 3p or not?

Game Specifics

- The game will start with 11 town players and 2 werewolves. 1 member of the town is secretly a werewolf and can be recruited by the faction. The town member who is secretly a werewolf will not know this at the start of the game.

not unless the above omits the possibility of something other than what is stated, which I don't think is likely at all (what a towny can turn 3p? a wolf? doesn't seem right at all here)

don't let yourself get stuck on a team combination making you think someone can/can't be scum

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Okay, my last post was a test to you in lover thread. You passed. My win con is actually the same as yours. But, I made that post because I was a bit worried you could have been scum. But, this makes me feel better about it.

do you really expect the majority of people to buy that this isn't just a backtrack after how you've been being read a good portion so far? I've had you scumleaning and so have a lot, and now you just figure ppl will trust you for why you lied?

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part of my lenience on not auto-thinking that is a scumlie and town would make that lie is because it happened in everhope

though, town shouldn't lie like that ever and if it weren't mylo I'd say we lynch with all haste to the liar

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and maki is def scum anyway so...

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I'd never go with something like that as town or scum, not even a consideration

so *shrug*

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again if it weren't mylo, I weren't more sure of makiscum, and if I didn't think town might be blah and make that lie - I'd be screaming for kokichi's head

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thinking maki/kokichi/desp atm ?

still a chance that kokichi and rando are scum together too though, who maybe even sensed our suspicion of the confirmation of masons (maybe even more so after I pointed out how that seems unlikely because of how much power), and decided to go a different route with it

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I want someone to tell me why I should claim before desperado who has done fuckall

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so you have no reason, wh4t? you just want my claim so fucking badly, you found out I was a PR early and GAAHHH gotta know!

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you obviously don't know me is all

I am SO against premature claims and that is premature to me

I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to do what is best for the game, no one giving reason why I should go before desperado makes no sense

also, wh4t, your vote and suspicions on me are ridiculous, I don't really care about your desires as much as most other ppl's in this PL

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I care, obviously

I'm also making lunch and about to eat and only half here atm

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MacCloud

1-Shot Town Desperado

variant is that I'm lynched if I shoot and am wrong, also if I shot the sleeper before they got recruited I'd kill them

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because I should not decide the fate of the game solely, I'm not that arrogant and I'm self aware enough to know my reads are sometime way off, and with you specifically I've been more wrong than right when you're town

it's called playing pro-town and playing a team game

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I think scum has to be some combo of:

maki, kokichi, random, desp, with an outlier in wh4t (I keep waffling back and forth a lot - super uncomfortable with my read on him)

but it's hard to see what the combination would be, I keep wracking my brain

looking back at some stuff maybe maki and kokichi are partnered and some of the stuff between them was distancing? ehh I dunno? desp hasn't given enough to give a read and that sucks, random sounds okay here and there and then not at all here and there, but think is more town likely in light of how stuff went with kokichi - but then they could be scum together with maki and that does make sense?

blah

yeah, I think maki has to be scum regardless of the rest of the team

we are NOT going no lynch

I should be around around deadline and I will likely shoot someone instead of go to nolynch if it gets down to it

VOTE: maki

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maki very excited to have me shoot someone...and is suddenly high TRing me

I don't think it makes sense for me to shoot at all, I just think we should vote for most likely scum, and hopefully hit it and get some wagon read and associations to read from there going forward

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we don't get to do anything after I shoot

pay attention

it either ends the Day with a scumkill or I die as the lynch

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we just need to lynch maki ffs

no, it ends the Day

MAKI FUCKING READ, I said it is a variant, if you would actually pay attention

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I should have used it D1 but it does not make sense for me to use now at all

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I think Kokichi is the sleeper and the motion I saw was the night kill on him.

and I think maki performed it and is how she knew there was a recruit more than she's known anything else this game

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@MOD would a desp kill end the day or keep it going?

THE MOD DOESN'T ANSWER IN THE THREAD, SCUM

QUIT TRYING TO DERP OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE DOING

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wait, those motions can be anything though, dunn

dead tracker or cop

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Why would I even bring up the god dam recruit if I was the one recruited or scum what benefit does that give me at all town cred? town cred isn't good enough compared to the element of not knowing if there's a sleepr or not

yep, trying to get towncred, the way you did it was just light, not with the sort of conviction that doesn't let there still be some doubt either way

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There's no logic in any of your statements just useless assumptions that have no backbone that you just try to fit together into a story because you have nothing solid to give.

ummm, this coming from the person who doesn't even know wtf is going on

at least I have ideas based on things and having been playing the game this whole time instead of just skirting 4 days in a blitz

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wh4t, vote maki? I think that is way more comfortable than whatever is up with the lovers, I don't think both of them as scum makes any sense, and losing an extra town at this point when maki is so much scum doesn't make sense

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also if maki weren't scum votes would be more readily being placed on her at this point and she'd be getting run up easily for how she's been, she'd be total lynchbait and ... ugh, so obviscum!!! I sooo wish I shot you on D1

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I didn't say you should have been run up? you are the one presenting some alternate dream narrative

blarlrgkahgl;ka;fga;lmkfafmlakdkl;amf

trying to get me riled, I'm sure

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Now let us go on the path that I am the sleeper in this case I was hit n1. Why? why was I hit over anyone in this game when I was clearly sheeping votes and not engaged in the game you can say "low info kill" but why kill a slot not engaged that doesn't make sense for scum when there are much bigger targets in the game than me.

let's go the route that I am scum on a 2 person team

we could argue back and forth why or why not you being recruited makes sense, or maybe you weren't recruited

you taking it to that level, which is a useless level at this point, shows you're trying to get the game not engaged ona level that matters

fuuugggoffff with it

I think you think you might as well lurk and make excuses for it because it's a blitz and it's been working so far the whole game for you until now like it tends to around here but too much is pointing to you being scum so of course you're going to refute it and be active you have to at this point!!!

and still you criticize me for having every reason to SR you and don't know dick enough to have any real idea of who scum is on your own

your list is practically meaningless with not having really paid attention to how things have gone, just as you'd do as scum

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yeah, one of them does has to be scum

you are right it does make more sense math wise

maki, your reads aren't comprehensive with the game, as in you didn't read or grasp, presumably, they are plucked out of little pieces instead of having a real picture because you don't have thef ull picture, unless I'm misunderstanding and you've read the whole game now?

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I did give reasons why not to shoot you, you laughed at them!

and if I shoot you and am wrong it is game over I think? ugh I'm not good at figuring out the numbers at end game

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soda kills!

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I am also willing to concede that it makes more sense to not follow my judgement/lynch choice preference, considering I was twice wrong on hammers

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shooting and lynching difference is as I said before, it becomes up to the group, it is more pro-town, more responsibility for all, etc.

it's much better that way

if it were earlier in the game it'd be different but at this point it's too crucial to decide on my own

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you baiting me makes me so anxious too, 'shoot me shoot me' - I wouldn't be suprised if you're not the recruit, but scum with a BP (would make sense considering the town power and the potential for scum to only have 2)

I wonder if I shoot a BP what happens

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that would make sense with the trollish roles too, actually

give me a shot that if I actually hit scum it hits a BP (1/2 or 1/3 chance anyway)

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we don't have a ML to go with it

I don't see half the PL calling you scum, you are really bothering me with that, you act as if they are voting you, you treat it as if it is the reverse

IT ABSOULTELY ENDS THE DAY

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IT SAYS IN MY FUCKING PM IT ENDS THE GD DAY

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I'm certain you must be BP scum now

I PMed the mod asking what happens if I hit a BP scum

or if I hit a BP town (asking both makes sense!)

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well then they need to vote your asssss

BP jailkeeper or RBer

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ppl need to vote for sure, it's the only way to do it

shooting is senseless anyway you cut it

I'm going for a walk

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after thinking on it a bit more I think dunn has it right, one of the lovers has to be scum, and that is the best path, especially if he's not super convinced on maki I have to defer to that as well for a Day

UNVOTE: maki

anyone have any other ideas / thoughts?

we're getting down to it

scum in maki, kokichi, random, desp, or possibly wh4t - and lovers are WAY most likely to be a hit no matter my feelings on maki

VOTE: kokichi

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I'd like to hear more from desperado random and tchill still

annoying at this point in the game with 1 day left to have ppl still piddling about

at least maki got into it

bleerrrghhh

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who do you think we should vote?

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UNVOTE:

I was on both maki and kokichi and scum didn't rush them....ftr

I don't want to push it, but for the windows that they were there...

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yes I know that is why I said it the way I did, not to push it far, but for the windows that were there, I was just noting it

nothing huge for sure

though in a blitz I would hope ppl to be more active and present, but this game has already shown that's not this game

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we may have a full day but things are actually better when not rushed at deadline