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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:28 pm

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Votecount 3.01


Quick (2): Flubbernugget, Flavour Leaf

Aubrey (1): Chisa Yukizome
Chisa Yukizome (1): Maki Harukawa

Not voting: lucca261, Epic Fial, Aubrey, CommKnight, Quick

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:06 pm

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In post 1103, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1072, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 978, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 976, Maki Harukawa wrote:Top tr flips town? Shocked.
I will have to make time to ISO you and Lalendra.
Please not to forget
To make time for these ISOs
I will try also
Just did lalendra iso

Focuses way too much on Jamie, who we now know was a very convenient slot for scum to target

Also meh
In post 1145, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1143, Flavor Leaf wrote:Lalendra is a compromise lynch and will flip town.
Yep
Flubber, can you explain how you got from the first quote to the second please?
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:10 pm

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In post 1189, Flubbernugget wrote:D1 was a no lynch
D2 was a compromise lynch

I see a perfect reason for scum to kill someone that wasn't making much of a difference in the game
Can you explain this? Why would scum kill someone who hasn't made mych impact?
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:31 am

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Gonna be inactive for the giving days. Be back soon.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:30 pm

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I wasn't hard sold on lalendra being scum (I listed my scum team later that day too) and compromise lynches are for the sake of flips, making them likely to land on town

This town is very uncooperative with each other. Scum doesn't want that to change, so it's in their interest to kill someone who wasn't changing the state of the game much.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:40 pm

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I'm back. Let's finish my D2 re-read and I'll talk.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:10 pm

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hey, comm didn't you have a big case to do on those three pairs of associative tells? I kinda wanna see your theory.

aubrey page 48 feels manufactured. how quickly he misdirected to Chisa her own suspicion. makes me paranoid.

in fact, I'm fucking paranoid all over. I have this gut feeling that I know exactly the scumteam and I'm not going to focus on them.

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Spoiler:
D2 Lynch - I

Quick (?? 3) - Awoo (town), Flub (??), Lalendra (town)
Flub (?? 1) - Maki (??)
Lucca (Town 1) - Comm (??)

D2 Lynch - II

Awoo (Town 1) - Jamie (town)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Flub (?? 1) - Maki (??)
Lucca (Town 4) - Comm (??), Lalendra (town), Awoo (town), Flavor (??)
Lalendra (Town 1) - Lucca (town)

D2 Lynch - III

Awoo (Town 2) - Jamie (town), Quick (??)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Lucca (Town 4) - Comm (??), Lalendra (town), Awoo (town), Flavor (??)
Lalendra (Town 3) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Maki (??)

D2 Lynch - IV

Awoo (Town 1) - Quick (??)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Lucca (Town 4) - Comm (??), Lalendra (town), Awoo (town), Flavor (??)
Lalendra (Town 3) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Maki (??)
Comm (?? 1) - Fial (??)

D2 Lynch - V

Awoo (Town 1) - Quick (??)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Lucca (Town 3) - Lalendra (town), Awoo (town), Flavor (??)
Lalendra (Town 3) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Maki (??)
Comm (?? 1) - Fial (??)
Maki (?? 1) - Comm (??)

D2 Lynch - VI

NK15 (Town 1) - Quick (??)
Chisa (?? 1) - Flavor (??)
Quick (?? 2) - Flub (??), Lalendra (town)
Fial (?? 1) - NK15 (town)
Lalendra (Town 3) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Maki (??)
Comm (?? 1) - Fial (??)
Maki (?? 1) - Comm (??)

D2 Lynch - VII

NK15 (Town 1) - Lalendra (town)
Chisa (?? 2) - Flavor (??), Comm (??)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Flub (?? 1) - Maki (??)
Fial (?? 1) - NK15 (town)
Lalendra (Town 5) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Quick (??), Chisa (??), Fial (??)
Comm (?? 1) - Fial (??)

D2 Lynch - VIII

NK15 (Town 1) - Lalendra (town)
Chisa (?? 3) - Flavor (??), Comm (??), NK15 (town)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Flub (?? 1) - Maki (??)
Lalendra (Town 5) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Quick (??), Chisa (??), Fial (??)

D2 Lynch - VII

NK15 (Town 1) - Lalendra (town)
Chisa (?? 2) - Flavor (??), NK15 (town)
Quick (?? 1) - Flub (??)
Flub (?? 1) - Maki (??)
Lalendra (Town 6) - Lucca (town), Aubrey (??), Quick (??), Chisa (??), Fial (??), Comm (??)


this is my vote count checker that I made for D1 and D2. I'm putting the D2 one because reveals shit and I was kinda tired of thinking about it. the one interesting movimentation can be seen in the VII spot. before that, D2 was a crapshoot with several small wagons and no real focus. three new players voted Lalendra from VI from VII. knowing it was a mislynch, there's definitely scum there. the only movement other than quick/chisa/fial jumping on Lalendra is Maki starting a wagon on Flub and Comm voting Chisa.

the point being: scum wasn't being threatened. there was no clear reason for the pile up on Lalendra. what I think about it is that there's definitely 1 scum off the wagon, maybe even 2. but the D1 chart is much more interesting. tomorrow I'll put it.

so this post is kinda shit, but kinda not.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:47 pm

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lucca ftr mine (and iirc everything after) was 100% "regardless of alignment here I don't want a fucking no lynch" so I don't think that's a reasonable read

I wanna think / wait for a certain person to post before I post more thoughts
i put myself on v/la for another week; don't give me free reign just make prods 72 hours instead of 48

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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:21 pm

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In post 1206, lucca261 wrote:how quickly he misdirected to Chisa her own suspicion.
By defending myself, and stating that scum could be killing a direct threat, OR potentially setting up a frame kill?

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Awoo did a poor job in hiding whether or not she was a mason. Unless scum are dense, that was not a power-role check, but rather an intentional kill with the hope of an after-effect. NK15 only talked about three people (
start of day I forgot he went after Chisa
). That is not a lot of people, and a relative small pool of info for people to look into.
So
.... few suspects, short and easy ISO, it isn't shocking why people would quickly assume he was onto something after an early death. Now look at the slots in question, Me, Chisa, and Epic. You have 2 slots who have had a healthy dose of suspicion, and were easy lynch targets going into today, and myself who was highly against the Lalendra slot who has now flipped town.

Pre-night 2: Epic and Chisa are slots who were likely going to face scrutiny going into tomorrow due to poor performance. It doesn't make sense from a scum point of view for them to really kill off someone like NK15 who has only gone after 3 people in order to relieve pressure form their slots. Then you have me and everything I said in Post who has sat damn pretty this whole game. What's one person (
who can't even fight back when questioned
) really going to do to me, especially when I'm not even his main target? The night kill just doesn't make a lot of sense for any of us to make to me.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:22 pm

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In post 1207, Chisa Yukizome wrote:I wanna think / wait for a certain person to post before I post more thoughts
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:25 pm

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You're over analyzing the fuck out of this dude
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:35 am

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Prodge for today.

Gotta get some time tonight hopefully before bed. My laptop screen is cracked so I gotta use the TV hookup to even play. Got a laptop on order to arrive Monday though so will be good by next week.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:30 am

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I meant comm but I'm not waiting for him to finish prodging so

VOTE: flubbernugget

testing one two three
i put myself on v/la for another week; don't give me free reign just make prods 72 hours instead of 48

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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:23 am

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Vote quick
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:02 pm

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In post 1212, Chisa Yukizome wrote:I meant comm but I'm not waiting for him to finish prodging so

VOTE: flubbernugget

testing one two three
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VOTE: flubber
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:15 pm

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I think it was Epic who made an excellent point on Flubber.

Let's see what happens when I do this:

VOTE: Flubber
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:11 pm

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In post 1215, Quick wrote:I think it was Epic who made an excellent point on Flubber.

Let's see what happens when I do this:

VOTE: Flubber
That's L-2 btw.
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:08 am

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In post 1213, Flubbernugget wrote:Vote quick
wtf is this?
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:38 am

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huh. I could go for Flub. but this was really fast.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:39 am

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I'm curious overall at how people will react to this, though.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 1220, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty sure flub is town.
Why?
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 1221, Quick wrote:
In post 1220, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty sure flub is town.
Why?
Because I think he isn’t scum.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:07 am

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In post 1222, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1221, Quick wrote:
In post 1220, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty sure flub is town.
Why?
Because I think he isn’t scum.
Top kek, really :neutral:
https://youtu.be/LRkYiRnRzY0

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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:02 pm

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In post 1215, Quick wrote:I think it was Epic who made an excellent point on Flubber.

Let's see what happens when I do this:

VOTE: Flubber
I did? What was it?
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