Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The issue is your conclusion lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’m saying that if you believe Creature is lying and is possibly using that to push you as scum, why would he risk being outted for the play of his teammates in Group B?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature: I don’t expect Thor to play like this as town.
Thor: You don’t know my meta, you’re lying.

It’s a jump that doesn’t make sense.

[Thor665]

If it's misinformation or a misunderstanding, and I'm town (or scum, frankly) - what is the problem with me forcing him to assess the misunderstanding in order to realize he's wrong?

My "conclusion" is one of factual reality.


"It is best for your personal health to drink milk after it curdles."

That is factually wrong, and even if I'm genuine in believing it does *not* mean it's okay to let me keep believing it.

I'm saying that, if Creature is scum, he's not trying to out himself - but that doesn't prevent him from outting himself.

[Thor665]

Creature: I don’t expect Thor to play like this as town.
Thor: You don’t know my meta, you’re lying.

It’s a jump that doesn’t make sense.

I don't expect you to play like this as town.

[Thor665]

Also, that's a sad strawman of my actual reply. Let's look at what I actually said.

In what universe do you know anything about my meta exactly?
Saying you find me scummy - sure, i can buy that because, meh, you don't play well.
But saying you have expectations on my play? I'd like to hear that one justified a little.

[Thor665]

How is having expectations of your play alignment indicative? Do you believe he’s intentionally lying?

I know he's lying, I'm trying to figure out if it's intentional.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The problem is that in my experience, most meta reads are usually given with a sense of convinction and I see trying to prove him wrong a waste of time.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don’t expect Creature to blow us away with a analysis of your meta, but I don’t think you can prove he’s lying until he describes your town and scum game. I also don’t think you can convince him he’s wrong.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And I kinda feel like town would know that or realize it isn’t fruitful. Whereas scum would pursue it to look like they’re doing something.

[EddieFenix]

gonna wait for the guilty because there better be one/world's most obvious shot

NOW you want to wait, after pulling the trigger on the hammer for CMM? By far, one of the most "low-hanging fruit lynches" in B?!!?

I guess we already have scum in a silver platter from Group B, we just got distracted with CMM.

Scum on a silver platter when the goon and the traitor are still alive in group B?! Can you show me, on said silver platter, who said scum is in group B!?!?!? Cause if that's the case, then we go back, and chow down.

Vote Count 1.6 B

momo (3): bulbazak, RachMarie, EddieFenix [L-5]

Lil Uzi Vert (1): Desperado [L-7]

ConManMick (8): WhyMafia, Transcend, Assemblerotws, Ginngie, Elliberetta, InactionDan, Ramcius, checkersman7 [

Lynch!

]

Not voting (2): vonflare, Creature

It takes 8 to lynch.

DPII ends in (expired on 2017-11-26 19:13:00)

Mod Notes

The list of the 8 people who got "distracted" by the CMM lynch and the hammer lies with Checkers on this one. Just want to point that out to you, Creature.

And I kinda feel like town would know that or realize it isn’t fruitful. Whereas scum would pursue it to look like they’re doing something.

Scum pursing something to look as if they're doing something.... Like lynching CMM when he was low-hanging fruit/not worth lynching AT ALL?



Null/Scum was my read and I even stated, and you can QUOTE me on that statement, throw it in my face, whatever, that my read on CMM was weak for scum and that we needed to look elsewhere in group B.

If we do go after C, I'm voting Checkers. If we're going back to B, I'm voting Momo because that has scum written all over it.

[Transcend]

ok 1885 sucks

but i think it's town suck

[Creature]

Curiousity of the day: Did you know that in order for someone to be lying it must be an objective statement?

[Creature]

but i think it's town suck

There are Desp and Ginn and town!Eddie thinks checkers is the best lynch from Group C?

[Creature]

Thor, who's scum in your group?

Because for me, by PoE it's you and Majiffy.

[Creature]

I played Newbie 1725 where you were very very obvious scum but town just didn't get in time to start a wagon on you then completely forgot about it next day, remember?

[Creature]

The list of the 8 people who got "distracted" by the CMM lynch

We were expecting CMM to do something.

[Creature]

Btw, did anyone realise EddieFenix managed to make a wallpost with zero reads?

[Transcend]

yo eddie who else besides momo doyou think is the mafia in group b

i think if people are like me, mick was a "get the fuck in here" / compromise lynch since basically no other lynch would come to fruition

[Creature]

We tried to wagon Majiffy, remember?

[Creature]

It was a lot easier pushing Majiffy lynch in Biochemistry.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mick lynch was no surprise considering Group B contained the most low-content and inactive players at the time. Town like to get distracted by those kind of players and scum like to capitalize on that. That’s still the case for Group B.

[SnarkySnowman]

Cmm was weak.

Momo was left because that's an easy mislynch. Same here. Thor is probably the scum and majiffy would be my alternate. Whoever I'm missing there is probably VT. Is that LUV? I think it's luv

[Creature]

Watch out, there are Micks in the other two groups.

Assemble in Group A, vonflare in Group C.

I townread both of them though.

[SnarkySnowman]

Yeah so

Scum
Thor
Jiffy
Momo
LUV
Town