Open 699 - Pick your Poison - Town Win

[Transcend]

my twilght was nonexistent because i was at work while it happened

[Transcend]

It may be a little premature, but Mafia 101 dude. You don't hammer without a claim. Why? I already explained why. What if he was the f-ing IC, or Vig, or Cop? You don't even care

this post implies he knew that he wasn't ic or cop because it was his buddy

it's really not uncommon at all that scum get really mad when someone annihilates their partner.

[Fishythefish]

Eh. I don't think that post assumes UC's flip much.

So yeah, I think you're scum. I struggle to believe you'd actually hammer UC as town without thinking about his possible roles. As scum, you don't need to think about that - you already know the flip.

[Transcend]

read any game of mine

you'll see me lolhammer all the time as town

it's just a me thing.

[Transcend]

i also lolhammer as scum but that's not what happened here.

you should probably sort me based on something other than my quickhammer

no one in this fucking game has played any ccompleted game with me except for fitz so he'd be theonly one to back up my meta there.

[Transcend]

actually i think i played a theme game with fishy but i didn't live very long

[Transcend]

well actually boring as well, but she's scum and not gonna back that up lol.

[Fishythefish]

Do you lolhammer because you don't think claims will change your mind, or because you don't care that much about winning, or for some other reason?

[Transcend]

because i work better when information is given to me immediately, rather than drawing the game out and waiting forever

[mutantdevle]

Transcend the fundamental thing here right now is that if a cop has investigated you then they have no reason not to role claim and confirm you both as town.

[Transcend]

i think the only reason cop is gonna out is if i'm geting lynched

[Transcend]

which wasn't the case yesterday but is the case now

[mutantdevle]

Umm no...

The cop gets 1 investigation. Once they use that, they are a vanilla townie with extra information. There's NO reason they should not claim after performing this investigation as all it does is withhold information from the town.

[Transcend]

beause they don't wanna get nked

thy'd rather have vts (luca blight) die

[kelbris]

you know Transcend, I gave you the benefit of the doubt with your "gambit" yesterday, but that hammer REALLY comes off as you attempting to bus a teammate, that and the fact that you never once answered my question regarding your "comment" on Viomi puts you firmly in my scum list.

VOTE: Transcend

[kelbris]

wait wait wait, I just realised...perhaps Transcend is the cop, how else would he know that the cop has "inno" on him. Unvoting for now just in case the scum try for a quickhammer on him.

UNVOTE:

[DeasVail]

VOTE: Transcend

I feel like all game I've been making excuses for why transcend is town, but I don't think I can back that up anymore.

lolhammering alone is not a scumtell imo, but I think Transcend's hammer on UCV makes so much more sense from scum.

Let's imagine that Transcend is town:
- Transcend thinks that UCV might be scum but is more likely to be town (which is much like the opinion that I had at the time)
- UCV has not claimed, so Transcend-town here must be thinking it possible that UCV is a PR if he thinks that UCV is town. I say this because I was thinking much along those lines at the time.
- Transcend-town suddenly hammers because ???

Let's imagine that Transcend is scum:
- Transcend knows that UCV is scum but doesn't really want to bus or wants to be off the wagon for whatever reason.
- A UCV lynch is looking to appear inevitable to Transcend-scum, who knows that he himself is probably not long for the game.
- Transcend-scum suddenly hammers, perhaps in an effort to get brownie points because who would lolhammer their scumbuddy without giving them a chance to claim, right?

So, given the above, Transcend-scum at least has some sort of reason to lolhammer, while there is no reason at all for Transcend-town to.

[DeasVail]

wait wait wait, I just realised...perhaps Transcend is the cop, how else would he know that the cop has "inno" on him. Unvoting for now just in case the scum try for a quickhammer on him.

UNVOTE:

Why do you think scum would quickhammer?

[Transcend]

ah

thought deas was cop with inno on me

just end me you're all bad

boring and hawk are scum

if one of those is wrong, it's deas

[Transcend]

if you guys lynch at least one of boring/hawk i will be satisfied

[kelbris]

because if Transcend is in fact cop, scum would want the cop gone at the earliest chance, since a lot of players suspect transcend of being scum, they can eliminate him without appearing scummy, at least, that's my take on the situation. Following on, IF Transcend is in fact cop, I suspect he might have used his ability on Boring, which is why he wants him gone.

VOTE: boring

@Transcend look, just say it-are you cop? The way you speak as though you know cop has inno when there are no masons, makes me suspect that you are in fact the cop yourself. If you aren't claiming cop, then you had best claim before I put my vote back on you.

[Transcend]

im vt.

if i were cop with a guiltyo n boring, i assure you, uc wouldn't have been lynched.

[mutantdevle]

Tbh I feel like the way kelbris is currently acting is a bus. If Transcend flips scum I'd want us to look more into kelbris next. If Transcend is town then I think we should take up his push on boring.

[Transcend]

how is he bussing me if he's voting boring ...

[mutantdevle]

how is he bussing me if he's voting boring ...

His mixture of both accusing you one minute and defending you the next. His last post also threatened to revote you if you don't claim. This just feels like he's both trying to be critical of you and trying to save your life at once. Overall, it just feels really forced.