Open 695: Making Friends and Enemies [Mafia Win!]

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Post Post #1275  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:29 pm

@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?
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Post Post #1276  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:57 pm

In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?


Unlike Quick, I think his case he is building on me is scum taking advantage of my lack of attentiveness to this game. I’m a reaction test player, so I knew eventually if I kept doing pointless nonsensical things (i felt it was pretty obvious I was disassociated from this game) that scum somewhere would try to take advantage of it. I just had to sift through town seeing it as scummy, and scum taking the opportunity. People voting me gets me invested in the game, so now I’m here, and starting to see things.

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Post Post #1277  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:58 pm

Chisa knows I’m a reaction test player, though, and I believe he knows how manipulative and how much of a game runner I am when I’m scum, so his push is a bit off to me as well.

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Post Post #1278  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:01 pm

Well 3 teams I see.
- Maki, Epic, Flavor
- Maki, Epic, Flubber
- Maki, Epic, Chisa

There'll be more time to find the third scum once we eliminate the first two.
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Post Post #1279  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:09 pm

In post 1278, CommKnight wrote:Well 3 teams I see.
- Maki, Epic, Flavor
- Maki, Epic, Flubber
- Maki, Epic, Chisa

There'll be more time to find the third scum once we eliminate the first two.


I've given you all you need to dig me, several times, and now quite straightforwardly. Since you still fial to get it you are either dense or scum. Which is it?

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Post Post #1280  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:11 pm

In post 1266, Chisa Yukizome wrote:epic who's town in [aubrey, flubber, maki]

flavor who's town in [aubrey, flubber, maki]


I feel relatively good about Aubrey.

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Post Post #1281  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:26 pm

In post 890, Torque wrote:
Votecount 1.15

CommKnight (4): Epic Fial, Quick, Maki Harukawa, Jamiet99uk
Quick (1): Flubbernugget
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Jamiet99uk (4): CommKnight, lucca261, Awoo, Lalendra
Lalendra (2): northsidegal, Aubrey

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Nobody will be lynched!


This is the final VC for the d1 no lynch. It bugs me because if jamie and comm are competing town wagons, scum should have been trying ro push one through, and it would have been easy to jump on either one 'to prevent the no lynch'...

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Post Post #1282  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:29 pm

Unless of course all but one was already ON the wagons.
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Post Post #1283  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:36 pm

In post 1282, CommKnight wrote:Unless of course all but one was already ON the wagons.


Right. We know awoo and lalendra were town. That leaves you and lucca on the town.jamie wagon.

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Post Post #1284  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:37 pm

...and me, quick, and maki on yours...

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Post Post #1285  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:40 pm

Yep, how would it look if you, Maki and someone else were to hop on at the end of the day?
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Post Post #1286  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:40 pm

I think if it was competing town wagons, some would contrive not to be on competing leading wagons? I mean, jumping from one to the other would be easy to sell as 'avoiding a no lynch'...

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Post Post #1287  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:41 pm

^scum, not some

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Post Post #1288  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:42 pm

Because your reasoning would be shit.
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Post Post #1289  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:48 pm

Have you even reread me in the light of my Assembler question?

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Post Post #1290  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:59 pm

In post 782, Torque wrote:
Votecount 1.13

CommKnight (4): Epic Fial, Quick, Jamiet99uk, Maki Harukawa
Quick (6): Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Lalendra, Flubbernugget, Aubrey
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (2): lucca261

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome, Maki Harukawa

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Make your votes clear to see who it is on please :|


How about this one? If quick is town this must have been tempting for scum to hammer. Unless of course they were all on already. And we know awoo, lalendra and NSG were town. Leaving comm (again),
Flubber, and Aubrey. But we probably wouldn't get all three scum on the wagon, but likely at least one.

IF quick is town. But you're townreading quick, right comm?

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Post Post #1291  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:09 am

In post 1276, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?


Unlike Quick, I think his case he is building on me is scum taking advantage of my lack of attentiveness to this game. I’m a reaction test player, so I knew eventually if I kept doing pointless nonsensical things (i felt it was pretty obvious I was disassociated from this game) that scum somewhere would try to take advantage of it. I just had to sift through town seeing it as scummy, and scum taking the opportunity. People voting me gets me invested in the game, so now I’m here, and starting to see things.


So on what basis are you doing this sorting? Sounds like an excuse to sort any way that helps your (probably scum) wincon...

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Post Post #1292  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:10 am

More later...

The two VCs between the ones I've been discussing are worth looking at...

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Post Post #1293  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 am

In post 1291, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1276, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?


Unlike Quick, I think his case he is building on me is scum taking advantage of my lack of attentiveness to this game. I’m a reaction test player, so I knew eventually if I kept doing pointless nonsensical things (i felt it was pretty obvious I was disassociated from this game) that scum somewhere would try to take advantage of it. I just had to sift through town seeing it as scummy, and scum taking the opportunity. People voting me gets me invested in the game, so now I’m here, and starting to see things.


So on what basis are you doing this sorting? Sounds like an excuse to sort any way that helps your (probably scum) wincon...


So this is actually a Freudian slip. The way he phrased it, the helps my “probably scum” wincon means that in doing so, there’s the possibility of doing what I did to help out my town wincon as well, but that makes his entire argument moot and NAI in that sense because if you can see it being done either alignment, which the word, that one word probably, means he sees/knows that it is happening from a town perspective. He pushes it completely as scum reasoning yet contradicts himself directly due to having insider knowledge.

I don’t think most people would notice this, but for me that locks it in.

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Post Post #1294  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:49 am

In post 1293, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1291, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1276, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?


Unlike Quick, I think his case he is building on me is scum taking advantage of my lack of attentiveness to this game. I’m a reaction test player, so I knew eventually if I kept doing pointless nonsensical things (i felt it was pretty obvious I was disassociated from this game) that scum somewhere would try to take advantage of it. I just had to sift through town seeing it as scummy, and scum taking the opportunity. People voting me gets me invested in the game, so now I’m here, and starting to see things.


So on what basis are you doing this sorting? Sounds like an excuse to sort any way that helps your (probably scum) wincon...


So this is actually a Freudian slip. The way he phrased it, the helps my “probably scum” wincon means that in doing so, there’s the possibility of doing what I did to help out my town wincon as well, but that makes his entire argument moot and NAI in that sense because if you can see it being done either alignment, which the word, that one word probably, means he sees/knows that it is happening from a town perspective. He pushes it completely as scum reasoning yet contradicts himself directly due to having insider knowledge.

I don’t think most people would notice this, but for me that locks it in.


LOL, no.

I didn't think you were a reaction test player with this account fwiw. We had a discussion about this stating that you play different on different accounts. This still hold? What's different about your play from one account to another?
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Post Post #1295  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:08 am

Well, I’m more analytical on this account. It’s hard to completely get rid of playstyles, and I reaction test in ways on all of them.
Morality I role play like I’m in Death Note.
Boon, I’m loud and gambity.
Boon is the hardest to lynch, and is super manipulative.
Flavor isn’t really manipulative at all. More just a “it is what it is”.
Morality’s just a bitch. :lol:

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Post Post #1296  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:34 am

I could buy into being busy in RL for a window in time. I could buy into not being motivated for a window of time. Your window of time though has been a major portion of the game. furthermore, I don't buy that it was a planned decision to actively lurk in order to help you place players through reaction testing. Like the annoying math teachers in my old high school days, you need to show the work, and I'm not seeing it. The only thing I see, is you going after the first person to really call you out on anything for survival. <--- aka this reads more as "Oh shit time to push back on the fly" rather than "I've been collecting data on how people recieve me, and here are my results now that my wagon is generated"

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Post Post #1297  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:32 am

MathBlade replaces lucca261 :clap: :clap:

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Post Post #1298  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:34 am

Hi all :) I will have to read this after work was reading the old thread. *wave*
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Post Post #1299  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:47 am

CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
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