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Post Post #1298 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:34 am

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Hi all :) I will have to read this after work was reading the old thread. *wave*
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:47 am

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CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:49 am

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In post 1235, Torque wrote:
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Quick (2): Flubbernugget, Flavour Leaf
Epic Fial (1): CommKnight
Flubbernugget (3): Chisa Yukizome, Maki Harukawa, Quick


Not voting: lucca261, Epic Fial, Aubrey

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Uhm why? On all this?
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:53 am

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In post 1288, CommKnight wrote:Because your reasoning would be shit.
Moving on. Again, Comm Knight scum claims here. Seems like Comm really wants to throw shade onto Epic. On top of that he asks what it could be. It could be anything. No townie post of Comm's I have seen says. "So you don't agree with my posts?" You're scum.

Comm knight has played and seen me enough to know that disagreeing with a reason doesn't justify this.

What has to happen is finding the heart and the intent of people.
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:55 am

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In post 1292, Epic Fial wrote:More later...

The two VCs between the ones I've been discussing are worth looking at...
Epic Comm Knight fight feels staged.
Townreads on aubrey and flavor leaf on the last page.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:56 am

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In post 1248, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1240, Quick wrote:
In post 1231, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1204, Flubbernugget wrote:I wasn't hard sold on lalendra being scum (I listed my scum team later that day too) and compromise lynches are for the sake of flips, making them likely to land on town

This town is very uncooperative with each other. Scum doesn't want that to change, so it's in their interest to kill someone who wasn't changing the state of the game much.
Hey look at that it's the answers to the questions I didn't answer
Great, than you lynched town because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why is there no wagon on a player trying to promote two back to back no lynches
Looked at the latest wagons and I can support a flubber lynch.
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 1268, Quick wrote:I am liking Epic a lot more for Town recently.
Quick is probably bamboozled Town or Epic is just Town and the Epic comm Knight fight is real.

Of the choices I take flubber.

Not voting there so no quick hammers happen and I can do a thorough read later.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 1305, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
Do better Math, ISO me and watch my reads evolve. Don't be part of the reason we can't lynch scum. No one believed me that Lale was town and look where that got us. No one would help vote Maki. No one is helping to vote Epic.

Instead everyone wants to lynch Flubber who I'm saying is going to flip town.

You watch.
So flubber is confirmed Town.

Thanks for that.

So all the wagons suck. Comm + Epic + ???

And on the last page alone there is a contradiction. Let me highlight it for everyone.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:11 am

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In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum
(but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read)
, but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?
In post 1278, CommKnight wrote:Well 3 teams I see.
- Maki, Epic, Flavor
- Maki, Epic, Flubber
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Maki, Epic, Chisa


There'll be more time to find the third scum once we eliminate the first two.
So in the case of Flubber flipping town there is still something that would make you change your mind.

Your reads are illogical Comm.

You're just trying to be manipulative and rile people up.

So from this post sequence alone we gain flubber Town flavor Town Chisa Town Epic prob scum by rule of three Maki Town.
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:12 am

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Comm and Epic and dunno who the third is.

Either of which is fine by me.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:13 am

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Still the case of Comm trying to manipulate me to not lynch flubber but I doubt that.
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:15 am

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In post 1310, Quick wrote:
In post 1306, MathBlade wrote:Comm + Epic + ???
Pretty sure you know what I have to say to this Math.
You hate that i team hunt every game and hate my playstyle soooo I am gonna say you hate it?
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:16 am

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Either that or say you think ??? Is Flubber
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:24 am

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In post 1313, CommKnight wrote:Okay, I've seen bad Math logic. But this is just horrendous even for him.

He even contradicted himself. Is Epic town or is he scum Math?
1) I didn't contract myself. I was considering a world and then threw it out.
2) They is my pronoun.
3) I see how it is. Don't address any of the points I have made and just call me horrendous.
4) 75%scum. You're 90%.
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 1315, CommKnight wrote:Besides the fact there is 50 pages worth of content before you replaced in. Yeah, I'm going to have little patience with you when town has been consistently pushing against my preferred lynches and here you are trying to derail town once again. I hate to say it, but we only have one mislynch left before LYLO, so buckle down and give me a bloody chance to lynch scum for once this game without someone pushing the lynch onto yet another townie.

Also either you're not analyzing it or you have an agenda behind the ignorance. But I've been actively saying NO to the Flubber lynch. So if you think he's town, why the hell do you think I'd be scum trying to veer the wagon away from an easy mislynch when we're one lynch away from being put in LYLO?

Want pissed off Comm? You're gonna get pissed off Comm. The one who doesn't put up with bullshit from replacements when I nearly have it figured out.
The creds.

Going to work.

And no. You really don't.

Then again you never really put first things first anyway. You aren't actually pushing your top scumread you're probably bussing Epic for the creds.

Scum do actually stay off wagons when it suits them. It is a tactic I have used before.

I am just debating if I vote Epic to make your bus easier or if I stay on you.
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:44 am

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And again you don't address my points.

Fun times. Let's lynch Comm Knight
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 1317, Quick wrote:
In post 1311, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1310, Quick wrote:
In post 1306, MathBlade wrote:Comm + Epic + ???
Pretty sure you know what I have to say to this Math.
You hate that i team hunt every game and hate my playstyle soooo I am gonna say you hate it?
Pre-Flip. It doesn't work.
Then help me lynch Comm. And yeah I was right you hate my playstyle.
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:48 am

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In post 1320, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1160, lucca261 wrote:let's talk business:

- paranoia is starting to pile up. seeing more scummy slots join the wagon is expected, but Chisa and Epic with me feel strange.
- another instance of paranoia: when scummy scummy flavor opposes the wagon, I'll never know if it is scum defending his partner/scum gauging up doubt

some final reads for today:

- town: I'm town, quick is 99% town, aubrey is probtown
- townlean: maki and comm
- null: epic and flub
- scumlean: chisa and nk15
- scum: lalendra and flavor, who knows

I was really feeling it earlier D2, couple days passed I'm not sure anymore, so there's that.

^ Your predecessor's reads. I'm beginning to think you do have an objective outside of finding actual scum. I hate to say it, but I'm retracting my read from Lucca's slot solely due to Math's play thus far being rather anti-town.
I don't give a shit what my predecessor thought.

My brain doesn't work like normal people's. Furthermore the reads are objectively wrong as lalendra flipped Town.

Why would I follow someone whose reads are proven wrong?

Like this is more "Hey don't listen to Math. I don't wanna interact with their points so I am just gonna say they suck"
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:26 am

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Point 1) Your illogical read comment on Flavor which I already bolded.
2) Your fight with Epic feels fake.
3) You're not actively pushing just sitting disengaged and going "waaaah Town sucks" and then actively saying people you townread suck
4) You're not interacting with the points just someone who doesn't do what you want sucks.

You're not helping.

If you genuinely think Flubber is Town point out the townie things Flubber has done.
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Post Post #1329 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:27 am

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In post 1327, Quick wrote:
In post 1326, CommKnight wrote:2.3-2.4 vote counts do have me on Maki.
In post 1081, Torque wrote:
Votecount 2.4


Quick (1): Flubbernugget
lucca261 (1): Lalendra
Flubbernugget (1): Quick
Lalendra (3): lucca261, Aubrey, Maki Harukawa

CommKnight (2): Epic Fial, Chisa Yukizome
Maki Harukawa (1): CommKnight
Chisa Yukizome (1): Flavor Leaf
Epic Fial (1): Not Known 15

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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I was reading Maki as Town early, but I expected them to pick up some better content. I was thinking that they were just feeling things out. That better solvay content never really came, which is a disappointment.

VOTE: Maki

YOLO.
Comm Epic Quick

Damn was waaay too fast to rule that Quick was Town holy fuck that is a bad post.
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:34 am

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In post 1332, Quick wrote:
In post 1329, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1327, Quick wrote:
In post 1326, CommKnight wrote:2.3-2.4 vote counts do have me on Maki.
In post 1081, Torque wrote:
Votecount 2.4


Quick (1): Flubbernugget
lucca261 (1): Lalendra
Flubbernugget (1): Quick
Lalendra (3): lucca261, Aubrey, Maki Harukawa

CommKnight (2): Epic Fial, Chisa Yukizome
Maki Harukawa (1): CommKnight
Chisa Yukizome (1): Flavor Leaf
Epic Fial (1): Not Known 15

Not voting:

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I was reading Maki as Town early, but I expected them to pick up some better content. I was thinking that they were just feeling things out. That better solvay content never really came, which is a disappointment.

VOTE: Maki

YOLO.
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Damn was waaay too fast to rule that Quick was Town holy fuck that is a bad post.
Game over, Math wins. :lol:
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #21) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:37 am

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Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #22) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 1328, MathBlade wrote:Point 1) Your illogical read comment on Flavor which I already bolded.
2) Your fight with Epic feels fake.
3) You're not actively pushing just sitting disengaged and going "waaaah Town sucks" and then actively saying people you townread suck
4) You're not interacting with the points just someone who doesn't do what you want sucks.

You're not helping.

If you genuinely think Flubber is Town point out the townie things Flubber has done.
Comm you gonna answer this and Quick's question?
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #23) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 1335, CommKnight wrote:@Aubrey and Flubber. Get on Maki today. That will give us 4, then we just need a 5th person to vote. Give me a chance to actually get scum lynched today. You both know I've been constant with my reads throughout the game. ISO me if you have to again and look at my current suspects with who I've read earlier as scum. This is a game where I'm on the mark.
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #24) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:44 am

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In post 1338, Quick wrote:
In post 1334, MathBlade wrote:Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?
Because I am sleep deprived and am in too many game atm. Sorry that's the reason.
Okay so you didn't push him.

This also means you admit it is fishy.

So then why are you voting with him?
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #25) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:44 am

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Also in your sleep deprivation you aren't putting first things first.

For shame. For shame.
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #26) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:50 am

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In post 1341, Quick wrote:
In post 1339, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1338, Quick wrote:
In post 1334, MathBlade wrote:Quick why didn't you push Comm for dodging your question?
Because I am sleep deprived and am in too many game atm. Sorry that's the reason.
Okay so you didn't push him.

This also means you admit it is fishy.

So then why are you voting with him?
Want to know a secret?

I can see Scum motive in pretty much every post.
Want to know a secret?

That doesn't answer my question.
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #27) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:57 am

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In post 1342, CommKnight wrote:1.) Flavor is on the fence for me. If Flubber were to somehow flip scum, based on my CONSISTENT reads this game, I'd townread Flavor. But otherwise, I'd nail Flavor up as scum.
2.) Not much of a fight calling Epic out as scum.
3.) Bullshit. ISO me. I've BEEN pushing people ALL GAME.
4.) Because the points are things you can find for yourself by ISO'ING ME.

Now then, Maki is the push today. Quick agrees. Are you going to call the town players scum for pushing someone who has so much resistance against their wagon? Why don't you scumread Maki, have you even read anything they've said so far? Have you ISO'd them?

Get a grip man. Quick and I have been at each others' throats most of the day D1 and since D2 we've left each other alone as each are TvT with disagreement on who's scum. Now we're both agreeing on Maki. So get the hell on board. The two towniest players this game finally agree on a scum read. That's when you know it's gotta be right.

1) There is a world you posited that disagrees other what you said.
2) Oh no its a fight when you interacted with Epic. Just a bad one.
3) I scumread you Comm Epic and Quick. No room for Maki and how you are pushing them I townread them.

And nah. No way in hell Maki is scum with how you push them with how you're pushed.

Gotta work now.
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #28) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:01 am

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In post 1348, CommKnight wrote:@Quick, thank **** we're not in LYLO because Math would've just lose town the game.
Nah I would be saving it.

I am calling in any towncred my slot had. Were lynching Comm.
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #29) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 am

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In post 1350, CommKnight wrote:Hell, I'll 1v1 Maki. If only for the fact that if town doesn't listen to me today, they sure as hell won't listen to me tomorrow when we will need 3 correct lynches in a row.

Also if this was LYLO Math, with you saying you're off to work, you'd leave a big window open for scum to hammer without much resistance.
Great we're lynching you today. Just a matter of when.

Lynch this scum.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1350, CommKnight wrote:Hell, I'll 1v1 Maki. If only for the fact that if town doesn't listen to me today, they sure as hell won't listen to me tomorrow when we will need 3 correct lynches in a row.

Also if this was LYLO Math, with you saying you're off to work, you'd leave a big window open for scum to hammer without much resistance.
Also RL comes first always.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:31 am

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In post 1356, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1355, Aubrey wrote:I came in expecting to read a comment or two on break only to be greeted by pages. Will read in depth later. Scrolling quickly seems to be a Comm and Math bicker battle that I doubt will be overly enjoyable to read.
It's not enjoyable. Feel free to skip it. Summary is Math makes up bullshit that can be answered if he reads the thread and I get annoyed with it and call him out on it.

Vote Maki.
It is very enjoyable. Please read it first. Summary is Comm Knight can't take being pressured so anyone who pushes Comm Knight "sucks". He gets annoyed by me pointing out contradictions in his "consistency".

Voting Maki doesn't end well. Back off. Now.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:11 am

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In post 1358, Quick wrote:
In post 1357, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1356, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1355, Aubrey wrote:I came in expecting to read a comment or two on break only to be greeted by pages. Will read in depth later. Scrolling quickly seems to be a Comm and Math bicker battle that I doubt will be overly enjoyable to read.
It's not enjoyable. Feel free to skip it. Summary is Math makes up bullshit that can be answered if he reads the thread and I get annoyed with it and call him out on it.

Vote Maki.
It is very enjoyable. Please read it first. Summary is Comm Knight can't take being pressured so anyone who pushes Comm Knight "sucks". He gets annoyed by me pointing out contradictions in his "consistency".

Voting Maki doesn't end well. Back off. Now.
Why are you arguing with your SR?
Reaction testing. I want to see how CommKnight takes this.
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #33) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 1359, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1272, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty funny how I’m being ran up now even though I was one of the people most against the Lalendra wagon.
Would you really townread someone for this I don't think you would so I'm questioning why you're bringing up this statement
In post 1275, CommKnight wrote:@Flavor, I'm sorta mixed on you. One hand, there's a high likelyhood you're scum (but if Flubber were to flip sucm then I'd reverse that read), but what do you think of Epic? Is he town in your eyes?
Talk to me on this because I can see flavor and Flub teammates why can't you?
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 1362, Maki Harukawa wrote:Also oh great another game I have to read Mathblade in :lol:
Harsh amiga. Harsh. :P
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:20 am

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Talk with me about why.

I strongly feel like Comm is taunting us.
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:34 am

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So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.

He is showing emotion. So what?

Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.

Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:36 am

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Furthermore the (if I am alive) is rather redundant. Of course if you are dead then you are not pushing anyone. That specific parenthesis was probably added because it feels townie versus is townie.
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:39 am

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Comm is more focused on slamming me than he is saving flubber from the lynch. I asked Flubber why and Comm Knight never answered. Comm Knight imho wants us to mislynch flubber.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:59 am

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In post 1371, Quick wrote:Math is really hit of miss for me.
Ditto for you.

I find whoever I push you instantly townread then compromise on the person I scumread and then they flip scum.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:25 pm

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In post 1373, Quick wrote:
In post 1372, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1371, Quick wrote:Math is really hit of miss for me.
Ditto for you.

I find whoever I push you instantly townread then compromise on the person I scumread and then they flip scum.
I was talking about this game.
Then what am I hit on? What am I miss on?
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:36 pm

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In post 1375, Quick wrote:
In post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.

He is showing emotion. So what?

Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Hit
Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Miss.

Stuff like that.
Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.

Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:14 pm

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In post 1378, CommKnight wrote:My read on Lucca's slot (Math) is wavering. Lucca was almost lock-town for me. I mean I know Math can tunnel people and push town, he regularly does this. But this just feels fake. It doesn't even seem like he's trying to look at people. There's 3 scum and he's so dead-set on me being scum that he's failing to reason out who would have to be my two partners.

Even in Maki's quote I was looking at Maki and Epic since D1. I'm beginning to see a Maki, Epic, and Math team potential.
They...If you're gonna insist that I am scum or no longer lock Town simply because I scumread you get my pronoun right.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:14 pm

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In post 1379, Quick wrote:
In post 1378, CommKnight wrote:My read on Lucca's slot (Math) is wavering. Lucca was almost lock-town for me. I mean I know Math can tunnel people and push town, he regularly does this. But this just feels fake. It doesn't even seem like he's trying to look at people. There's 3 scum and he's so dead-set on me being scum that he's failing to reason out who would have to be my two partners.

Even in Maki's quote I was looking at Maki and Epic since D1. I'm beginning to see a Maki, Epic, and Math team potential.
Not true. Hes said it was you me and Epic.
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 1377, Quick wrote:
In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1375, Quick wrote:
In post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.

He is showing emotion. So what?

Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
Hit
Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Miss.

Stuff like that.
Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.

Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 1383, Quick wrote:
In post 1382, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1377, Quick wrote:
In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1375, Quick wrote:
In post 1368, MathBlade wrote:So? I don't see anything scum wouldn't do. Or that I haven't done as scum.

He is showing emotion. So what?

Telling what you believe to be the truth (or just the truth in the case of scum) is not alignment indicative else every game I have I would be Town.
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Help me to see what you see. What this reads as to me is desperate scum and the fact neither of the two were lynched to me is suspicious.
Miss.

Stuff like that.
Okay...Let's assume that the consensus is I am a shitty Town player.

Instead of saying "I suck" help me better. Don't just say "Miss" or "Its math" tell me what I can do better. Connect the dots.
"Help me see what you see." Terrible tone. Far fetched reasoning with more bad tone.
Tone can't be good or bad. That is emotion. Reasoning far fetched << Why do you think this? If you feel my reasoning is bad tell me why.
Lack of doubt.
That isn't a logical flaw.
It can be argued I am arrogant fine. That doesn't mean wrong or far fetched.

I am damn sure 2+2 is 4.
Should I doubt that?
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:39 pm

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Obviously you disagree with my scumread of you.

Obviously you disagree with my scumread of Comm and still haven't followed up with Comm despite my insistence that you should have with your question. Instead you sheep him. What
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What specifically makes you not talk about Epic?

What specifically is "Miss" about my play/style here?
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:51 pm

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In post 1387, Quick wrote:
In post 1386, MathBlade wrote:Obviously you disagree with my scumread of you.

Obviously you disagree with my scumread of Comm and still haven't followed up with Comm despite my insistence that you should have with your question. Instead you sheep him. What
specifically
in your reads, not math, am I missing? What makes you not push him?

What specifically makes you not talk about Epic?

What specifically is "Miss" about my play/style here?
I have been pushing him.

He doesn't respond. That is for Town to figure out.
If you're Town (again I doubt this) you have an opinion on this. Elaborate on your opinion. When I am trying to read you saying it's
Town's problem
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:52 pm

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In post 1388, Aubrey wrote:Another page? Lolololol, I’ve been thinking this game needed an energy boost but dear god.
I interact with people in real time. This creates posts.
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:54 pm

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With a post like that I could compromise on flubber and maybe the epic/comm knight fight was genuine.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:55 pm

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Would much rather lynch Comm or Quick though.
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #51) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:43 am

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Spoiler: From Mastina's VCA Guide
Town lynch:
Look off the mislynch wagon.

The first place I look for scum on a mislynch is OFF the wagon--I try to determine how many scum (if any) there are, and who the probable candidates are. Sometimes, there are situations where there are none to be found, or far fewer to be found than expected...and in those situations, by virtue of doing this analysis, I have a better idea of how good or bad the mislynch wagon was.
Regardless: counterwagons
I look for the presence of a counterwagon, or far more tellingly, the utter lack of one. If there is no discernible counterwagon on a scum lynch, it's a safe bet scum bussed. Maybe even heavily. If on a scum lynch there is a counterwagon on a player who is known to be town, then the names there have a decent chance of being scum. This is not that common anymore, but sometimes it does still happen. If on a town lynch there is a counterwagon on a player who is known to be scum...then there's a reasonable chance you can use the safe/standard model of "scum voted town, town voted scum" with an above average accuracy.
that guy sitting out the day's lynch when it's town v town? That's scum with substantial probability.
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If on a town lynch there is a counterwagon on a town player, then the scum didn't care which got lynched--the scum are likely to be about evenly distributed between each wagon, and if there's players on neither wagon, there's a disproportionately high chance that the players off both wagons are scum.


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Post Post #1410 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:44 am

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In post 1169, Torque wrote:
Votecount 2.Final


Quick (1): Flubbernugget
Flubbernugget (1): Maki Harukawa
Lalendra (R.I.P): lucca261, Aubrey, Quick, Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, CommKnight

CommKnight (1): Epic Fial
Chisa Yukizome (2): Flavor Leaf, Not Known 15
Not Known 15 (1): Lalendra

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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Lalendra has been lynched! They are a
Vanilla Town.


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Vanilla Town


Welcome, Lalendra! Your role is
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Abilities:

The only ability you have is your vote. Use it wisely!
Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #53) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 890, Torque wrote:
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CommKnight (4): Epic Fial, Quick, Maki Harukawa, Jamiet99uk

Quick (1): Flubbernugget
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Jamiet99uk (4): CommKnight, lucca261, Awoo, Lalendra

Lalendra (2): northsidegal, Aubrey

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Nobody will be lynched!
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #54) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:49 am

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We know 100% certain Jamiet was Town.

This means CommKnight was the Counter wagon. The question is whether Comm Knight is scum or not.

Setting my thoughts aside a moment, let's look at each case.
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:59 am

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Assume Comm Knight is town. Then there would be a relevant IDGAF which wagon it is.

We know northside, Not 15/Awoo were Town because of the NK. I know I am Town. This means that with the assumption Comm Knight is town that entire wagon on Jaime would be Town.

Now compare to the Comm Knight wagon, Epic Fial, Quick, Maki and Jaime.
Jaime was Town. This would make at most two of Epic, Quick, Maki scum.

But what is odd and counter to that argument is that any scum on the Comm Knight switch to The other lynch to not no lynch. This distribution does not make sense for the assumption Comm knight is town. Therefore it is much more likely comm Knight is scum.
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #56) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:06 am

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Unless the team is specifically, flubber, Aubrey, Flavor Leaf. Day two there was no counterwagon to Lalendra lynch.

I could see scum pushing two bad wagons just to make sure no hindrance got to the Lalendra lynch. Let's compare that against today's votes.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #57) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 1404, Torque wrote:
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Quick (1): Flubbernugget
Epic Fial (1): Flavour Leaf
Flavour Leaf (3): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, Aubrey

Flubbernugget (1): Maki Harukawa
Maki Harukawa (2): Quick, CommKnight
CommKnight (1): MathBlade

Not voting:

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Post Post #1416 (isolation #58) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:08 am

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In post 1403, Flubbernugget wrote:Page 54

The turn of events is interesting. I usually ignore MathBlade when they replace into my games, but I want to see if there's any credence on their notes with comm knight

On the other hand, comm is working to get one of my scum reads lynched (though them town reading quick really sucks)
Flubber here isn't reading. I townread and scumread Quick with certain people.
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #59) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:13 am

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In post 1208, Aubrey wrote:
In post 1206, lucca261 wrote:how quickly he misdirected to Chisa her own suspicion.
By defending myself, and stating that scum could be killing a direct threat, OR potentially setting up a frame kill?

--

Awoo did a poor job in hiding whether or not she was a mason. Unless scum are dense, that was not a power-role check, but rather an intentional kill with the hope of an after-effect. NK15 only talked about three people (
start of day I forgot he went after Chisa
). That is not a lot of people, and a relative small pool of info for people to look into.
So
.... few suspects, short and easy ISO, it isn't shocking why people would quickly assume he was onto something after an early death. Now look at the slots in question, Me, Chisa, and Epic. You have 2 slots who have had a healthy dose of suspicion, and were easy lynch targets going into today, and myself who was highly against the Lalendra slot who has now flipped town.

Pre-night 2: Epic and Chisa are slots who were likely going to face scrutiny going into tomorrow due to poor performance. It doesn't make sense from a scum point of view for them to really kill off someone like NK15 who has only gone after 3 people in order to relieve pressure form their slots. Then you have me and everything I said in Post who has sat damn pretty this whole game. What's one person (
who can't even fight back when questioned
) really going to do to me, especially when I'm not even his main target? The night kill just doesn't make a lot of sense for any of us to make to me.
In post 1230, Aubrey wrote:So why is Flubber being voted again? This game has a popular trend of unexplained votes/wagons it seems.
In post 1270, Aubrey wrote:Logical wagon. I can agree with said wagon. People on it that I like. VOTE: Flavor.

Maki's is a tad off-putting as well. Why would you try to incriminate whoever lands the hammering blow to the wagon you're advocating for?
In post 1296, Aubrey wrote:I could buy into being busy in RL for a window in time. I could buy into not being motivated for a window of time. Your window of time though has been a major portion of the game. furthermore, I don't buy that it was a planned decision to actively lurk in order to help you place players through reaction testing. Like the annoying math teachers in my old high school days, you need to show the work, and I'm not seeing it. The only thing I see, is you going after the first person to really call you out on anything for survival. <--- aka this reads more as "
Oh shit time to push back on the fly
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I've been collecting data on how people recieve me, and here are my results now that my wagon is generated
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Here we see a general agreement with the Flavor Wagon but does very little to actually push it forward. For someone complaining about the lack of gamestate there is no attempts at pushing anyone. For all the "show your work" bits Aubrey is also not showing work.

In the rare case of Comm Knight town we're probably looking at Flubber,Flavor, and Aubrey.
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #60) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:18 am

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In post 1415, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1404, Torque wrote:
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Quick (1): Flubbernugget
Epic Fial (1): Flavour Leaf
Flavour Leaf (3): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, Aubrey

Flubbernugget (1): Maki Harukawa
Maki Harukawa (2): Quick, CommKnight
CommKnight (1): MathBlade

Not voting:

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Day ends in (expired on 2017-12-05 10:30:00)
Flubber again still on Quick. Aubrey on Flavor Leaf and Flavor Leaf on Epic.
By PoE Chisa is not scum in either world, Maki is not scum in either world, and well I know I am Town.
So don't like the Comm,Quick,Flubber wagon on Maki.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #61) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:19 am

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VOTE: Flubber

The votes say you are scum.
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:06 am

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In post 1403, Flubbernugget wrote:Page 54

The turn of events is interesting. I usually ignore MathBlade when they replace into my games, but I want to see if there's any credence on their notes with comm knight

On the other hand, comm is working to get one of my scum reads lynched (though them town reading quick really sucks)
Them = my pronoun
Him = Comm Knight's pronoun

Unless you are using the colloquial you are talking about me?
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:00 pm

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In post 1430, Epic Fial wrote:Took me longer to get back to this than I expected. Looks like the thread has rurned into The MathBlade Show...
That happens when I seem to be one of the few people who gives a fuck.
Anyone who wishes to prove me wrong go right ahead and show me you care.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:00 pm

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In post 1429, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1427, Maki Harukawa wrote:Welcome to the townblock math
The townblock that you're not in, incidentally.
Correction: Maki is in Chisa is in you are not.
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #65) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:01 pm

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In post 1428, Quick wrote:VOTE: Flavor

He isn't doing anything Pro-Town. He's just saying he would lynch certain people or not lynch certain people. No Scum hunting.
Neither are you. Otherwise you'd either answer my question about your read on Comm Knight or admit you don't and then quit sheeping him as people don't sheep null reads.
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #66) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:02 pm

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In post 1426, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1424, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m always down to lynch Quick, though, so I agree there, Titus sibling.
Thanks for leaving all my efforts to get him lynched at a vanity wagon?
I did that first and it is because you really aren't trying.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #67) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:03 pm

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In post 1425, Flubbernugget wrote:"them" is your pronoun, but I still think it's acceptable to use it to address comm.

Why are you doubling down on your interpretation of my post after I clarified?
I did not "double down" I said unless you are using the colloquial.
You said you were.
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #68) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 1423, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually disagree with most of Math’s points there. I was specifically stating that Lalendra was a compromise lynch and was going to flip town, why would I ever be on it?
VCA doesn't care about your reasons, claimed or real. It cares about the spread.

In all actuality though it reaffirms my point as I said I was talking about the distribution of scum.

Why are you replying as if you are scum and saying you'd not be on it?
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #69) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:06 pm

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In post 1422, Aubrey wrote:And what work would you like me to show you?
Case Flavor Leaf.
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #70) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:06 pm

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And I don't care if you repeat someone else's points.

I want to see you convince me Flavor Leaf is scum to you.
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #71) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:08 pm

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In post 1424, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m always down to lynch Quick, though, so I agree there, Titus sibling.
Interesting to note that you know Titus.

Do you know me and is there a reason you are making the parallel?
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #72) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 1427, Maki Harukawa wrote:Welcome to the townblock math
Ftr I hate town blocks but imho we need it.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #73) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:54 pm

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In post 1442, Quick wrote:
In post 1433, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1428, Quick wrote:VOTE: Flavor

He isn't doing anything Pro-Town. He's just saying he would lynch certain people or not lynch certain people. No Scum hunting.
Neither are you. Otherwise you'd either answer my question about your read on Comm Knight or admit you don't and then quit sheeping him as people don't sheep null reads.
There is a lot of context that you are not getting. I am at this point, independently SRing Maki. It's based on that slot not doing much solving. Also, everyone who has played with Comm has said his gut is good, so I kinda want to test that out. It's selfish of me to do, but he is either going to show that he is legit a master at this game or that he is a schmuck and I kinda want to figure out which it is.
This is a lot of words for "I am not answering or reading him". You've had two days to "see if he is a master" let's see where his votes were...
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #74) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:57 pm

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In post 841, Torque wrote:
Votecount 1.14


CommKnight (3): Epic Fial, Quick, Maki Harukawa
Quick (2): Flubbernugget, Aubrey
lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Jamiet99uk (4): CommKnight, lucca261, Awoo, Lalendra

Lalendra (2): northsidegal, Jamiet99uk

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

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Post Post #1446 (isolation #75) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 1169, Torque wrote:
Votecount 2.Final


Quick (1): Flubbernugget
Flubbernugget (1): Maki Harukawa
Lalendra (R.I.P): lucca261, Aubrey, Quick, Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, CommKnight

CommKnight (1): Epic Fial
Chisa Yukizome (2): Flavor Leaf, Not Known 15
Not Known 15 (1): Lalendra

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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The only ability you have is your vote. Use it wisely!
Win Condition:

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated
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Data says Comm Knight's gut is horrible.

Especially since he is pushing Maki and Epic which doesn't make any sort of sense with VCA.

So talk with me about this whole "trust Comm Knight" answer.
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #76) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 1443, Quick wrote:Let's all do this:

Not lynching:
Epic
Chisa
Comm
Math

Would Lynch:
Aubrey
Flavor
Flubber
Maki

Pick 4 you would lynch and 4 you would not.
How about a hard no.
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #77) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:00 pm

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In post 1270, Aubrey wrote:Logical wagon. I can agree with said wagon. People on it that I like. VOTE: Flavor.

Maki's is a tad off-putting as well. Why would you try to incriminate whoever lands the hammering blow to the wagon you're advocating for?
This is not a Flavor case. It isn't reasons.

You can explain your Flavor read now.
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #78) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:07 pm

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And those aren't reasons Flavor is scum.

They could be you don't buy that Flavor spent time offline on the case which is NAI.

Why do you scumread Flavor enough to be your top scumread?
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:25 am

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In post 1452, Aubrey wrote:
In post 1302, MathBlade wrote:Townreads on aubrey and flavor leaf on the last page.
By the way

Why did you like me before, and now all of a sudden "
holy fuck Aubrey isn't voting Flavor for scummy reasons
" Or is this something i get to look forward to when I attempt to get caught up?
I fell into the feeling the Player is honest = townread trap.

Mainly I haven't seen any "conviction" over why Flavor is scum moreso than anyone else here.

A player being lazy or lurky may be truthful but unless you townread a majority of the game not seeing your reasons why Flavor Leaf has your vote compared to say Flubber or Quick.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:26 am

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In post 1453, Quick wrote:
In post 1450, MathBlade wrote:And those aren't reasons Flavor is scum.

They could be you don't buy that Flavor spent time offline on the case which is NAI.

Why do you scumread Flavor enough to be your top scumread?
In post 1449, Aubrey wrote:
In post 1296, Aubrey wrote:I could buy into being busy in RL for a window in time. I could buy into not being motivated for a window of time. Your window of time though has been a major portion of the game. furthermore, I don't buy that it was a planned decision to actively lurk in order to help you place players through reaction testing. Like the annoying math teachers in my old high school days, you need to show the work, and I'm not seeing it. The only thing I see, is you going after the first person to really call you out on anything for survival. <--- aka this reads more as "
Oh shit time to push back on the fly
" rather than "
I've been collecting data on how people recieve me, and here are my results now that my wagon is generated
"

:neutral:
These seem like legit reasons to me, Math.
Long ass windedness for "lurking" is not acceptable on Day three.
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #81) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:21 am

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In post 1463, CommKnight wrote:Maki should not be lynched today. One of those formerly top scumread people that no one else should vote.
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #82) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:35 pm

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In post 1466, CommKnight wrote:Well see, this is the problem. If I'm RIGHT about Maki, at least two of you are trying to not lynch Maki because you don't want to bus a partner 1-lynch from LYLO. Tomorrow you can risk 1-2 people because then you only need 1 mislynch. But right now you require 2 so Maki isn't going to be really thought of for lynching until tomorrow when someone will try to push it for town cred.
No one will push Maki for towncred. Anyone who continues to push Maki after my posts deserves all the wtfs they get.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #83) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:37 pm

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In post 1458, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1446, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1169, Torque wrote:
Votecount 2.Final


Quick (1): Flubbernugget
Flubbernugget (1): Maki Harukawa
Lalendra (R.I.P): lucca261, Aubrey, Quick, Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, CommKnight

CommKnight (1): Epic Fial
Chisa Yukizome (2): Flavor Leaf, Not Known 15
Not Known 15 (1): Lalendra

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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Comm Knight's vote was on Town.

Data says Comm Knight's gut is horrible.

Especially since he is pushing Maki and Epic which doesn't make any sort of sense with VCA.

So talk with me about this whole "trust Comm Knight" answer.
Try reading D2's ending posts. It was a couple hours from deadline and no more time for anyone else to be lynched. So rather than TWO days in a row of no-lynch I picked to lynch.

Also we didn't actually lynch Jamie D1, in fact D2 I said I wouldn't lynch Quick or Jamie.

But you know, gotta love NOT READING the game.

Not Lynching (4):
Quick
Flubber
Aubrey
Flavour

Willing to Lynch (4):
MathBlade
Maki
Epic
Chisa

But Chisa and Flavour are more towards the middle of both with the other 3 on each being a bit more firm in stance.
All scum have townreads.

It isn't about whether you are right or wrong it is about genuineness and stances
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:09 pm

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In post 1473, Flavor Leaf wrote:If Maki is scum, and on flubber, that would make Math be pushing a town Flubber, meaning Comm and Flubber probably are on the correct path. I can’t really tell who on my wagon is scum from the low hanging fruit, because Quick can always just be poor town.

Well, Math, I’m town.

VOTE: Maki

I hope you guys see why there is no scenario where ScumFlavor votes Maki here....it puts us in a direct counterwagon at best, if Math goes along side with me, and Maki is the deciding factor.
Odds of me hammering Maki with that wagon are literally zero.

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Post Post #1487 (isolation #85) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:13 pm

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In post 1485, Quick wrote:
In post 1465, Flavor Leaf wrote:Maki is in the nether regions for me.
In post 1473, Flavor Leaf wrote:If Maki is scum, and on flubber, that would make Math be pushing a town Flubber, meaning Comm and Flubber probably are on the correct path. I can’t really tell who on my wagon is scum from the low hanging fruit, because Quick can always just be poor town.

Well, Math, I’m town.

VOTE: Maki

I hope you guys see why there is no scenario where ScumFlavor votes Maki here....it puts us in a direct counterwagon at best, if Math goes along side with me, and Maki is the deciding factor.
The fuck?
This Math wagon is shit.
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Post Post #1488 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:13 pm

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Post Post #1489 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:19 pm

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In post 1478, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Flavour Leaf (4): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, Aubrey, Quick

Flubbernugget (1) Maki Harukawa,
Maki Harukawa (4) CommKnight, Flubbernugget, Flavor Leaf, MathBlade,


Not voting:

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch


Assuming Math sides with us, hopeful, then Maki is caught out scum in the beatnik possible spot. In this scenario, I see it as two scum on me, and then the one scum on Flubber, the hopeful counterwagon to Maki, while still having votes on me. Aubrey is lock scum based on play and positioning, and I don’t think Epic is scum here unless Chisa/Quick are playing equally horrendous, which I don’t think is the case here. One of them are low hanging fruit seeming town, but scum, and the other is just low hanging fruit.

Based on play, and what I can see as potentially manipulative in ISO’s, I’m going to say Quick is the townie, and Chisa is the scum.

My wagon was the laziest wagon ever, allbasically based on me doing nothing, and they pushed it hard. That’s the epitome of a scum driven wagon.

I’m locking in right now as Aubrey, Maki, Chisa.
Yeah I am really tempted to just hammer your ass.

You know what:

Intent to hammer
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:34 am

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I have lost games to lurking Town and lurking scum. If a player doesn't care to play then they should be lynched before LyLO.
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #89) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:38 am

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In post 1480, Flubbernugget wrote:It's absolutely absurd to assume anyone would push Maki for town cred
Welcome to the land of Math. Got new scumreads?

Glad you saw what I saw.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #90) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:39 am

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Boonskiies is scum with Boomskiies who is scum with Boonksiies.

What this isn't Titus meet?

Flavor Leaf is scum.
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #91) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:28 am

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In post 1517, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Aubrey

Not confident with Maki at all after Maki didn’t hammer.
Show your work. Otherwise you v Aubrey is scum v scum.
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #92) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:00 am

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In post 1529, Aubrey wrote:Lol. Unless you think scum is myself, Flavor, and Maki, I call poor logic Math.
I call poor logic on Maki scum. But at least I know scum aren't reading. LOL. There is like 0 case on Maki and the wagon is filled with my scum reads. Therefore Maki is town LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #93) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:04 am

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In post 1531, Maki Harukawa wrote:Pocket me harder math I'm good for it

Why aren't people voting Flubber do you tr him etc I don't think he's done anything worth getting tr over he's normally a pretty easy ML when he's town the fact people aren't jumping on him sums it up pretty well
Of course :D I absolutely will. :D Anything my buddy wants :D
I could do flubber but mainly I wanna see Aubrey and Flavor go at it so I can sort them.

Everyone not giving reasons for they scumread is well...annoying.
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 1534, Aubrey wrote:Can you refer me to why Maki is a hard townlean for you BTW? I can’t help but feel this read is generated more from a friendship than an actual read unless I’m having an lapse in memory. Which is very possible.
The people who scumread Maki I scumread. Therefore Maki is town.
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #95) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:46 am

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In post 1535, Aubrey wrote:That’s probably not clear. What I mean is, didn’t you basically enter the game townreading them and built from there? What caused that initial hard town read
Maki hasn't done anything scummy and the people scumreading Maki have. It's really that simple.
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #96) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:48 am

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In post 1536, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1479, Flavor Leaf wrote:Epic, please Unvote me for right now. Just give me a little more time. You’re the only one who can do it since the others are scum, and Quick is a town liability.
In post 1501, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nothing I can do to convince people, so I don’t get the “I’m gonna give him some time to convince me. If you’re scum, bail me out, and you get town cred from me.
So first you beg for more time, then you say you don't get being given more time?

Then you try to openly bribe quick?

You've had your chance. I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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+1 Agreed. And Aubrey had a very underwhelming "catchup" post Saturday.

I'm really thinking this lynch will help solidify which of the two worlds it is and I'll get time for a deeper dive tonight.
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #97) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 1541, Quick wrote:
In post 1513, MathBlade wrote:I have lost games to lurking Town and lurking scum. If a player doesn't care to play then they should be lynched before LyLO.
So then why did you have a problem with Aubrey going after a lurker?
Because Aubrey well isn't....

As I asked show you're work.

Aubrey's not. It's a lazy ass vote which is indicative of SvS usually.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #98) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:40 pm

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Aubrey Flavor Flub? Is Comm really just terribad??
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:41 pm

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In post 1543, Aubrey wrote:What’s underwhelming is this “Aubrey’s not showing his work” when I have. Unless everyone else is scratching their heads at my stances then I have little else to say on the matter.
Just saying you have done something doesn't make it true.
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #100) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 1549, CommKnight wrote:Well Math, one of us is doing bad this game if we both really are town. But I honestly am sticking to my guns. They rarely let me down.
Man all signs open now.

Your gun is clearly broken.

I am staring at your open canister going wtf.
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:11 pm

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You want some help rebooting your diagnostics for your guns?
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #102) » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:08 pm

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Everyone else is pushing their pet wagons but I push everywhere.

I quoted your ISO and you said some things about RL. You haven't said a single thing Leaf has done that IS scummy.

Find me a post. If you have done this it's simple enough. Show me where Leaf is actively manipulating the town.

My stances are awesome. If you're town you'll come around. If not well...keep just saying people are scum unjustified. Let's see how that works for you.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #103) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:45 am

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And you aren't yelling at people to hammer your top scumread because...?

Flavor is the lynch. There is no other wagon all others are vanity.

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Post Post #1571 (isolation #104) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:15 am

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Can't hammer ROTFLMBO.

Votes moved around.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

For emphasis pretty sure my vote was already here.
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #105) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:15 am

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#mathCantCount is trending :P I didn't see Epic's revote.

Looking forward to the likely scum flip.
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #106) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:35 pm

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In post 1578, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1576, MathBlade wrote: Looking forward to the likely scum flip.
SAF
Got a spelling error there dude.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #107) » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:35 pm

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In post 1586, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1584, Quick wrote:Got a final reads list?
My thoughts are already out there. And I’m correct, so...just listen to me, please. Haha.
Boonskiies is scum.
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #108) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:36 pm

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Making agonizing simple openings now.

Making all kinds imaginary.

Like seriously scum just made this seriously easy.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 1595, Quick wrote:Who are the masons? I mean... They claim today, right?
Only if run up but it is mylo so we should be no lynching.

The fact scum haven’t figured it out bewilders me:
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Post Post #1599 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:51 pm

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7 alive I think means 3 scum 2 masons 2 vt

I am in one of the latter two so shit it is lylo.
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Post Post #1604 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:14 pm

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Fuck it buddy forgive me I am a mason. :) when we spoke overnight thought mylo.
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #112) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:19 pm

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In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
In post 1301, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1288, CommKnight wrote:Because your reasoning would be shit.
M
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gain, Comm Knight scum claims here.
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eems like Comm really wants to throw shade onto Epic.
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n top of that he asks what it could be. It could be anything.
N
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o you don't agree with my posts?" You're scum.

Comm knight has played and seen me enough to know that disagreeing with a reason doesn't justify this.

What has to happen is finding the heart and the intent of people.
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:20 pm

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Got a few more crumbs like that too. But phone posting.

Does scum wanna CC and make life easy?

Partner stay hidden.
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Post Post #1607 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:24 pm

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If scum don’t CC me then me and my partner are town. If scum do then my partner claims.

I gave my partner my crumbs as to how they signal who they are so if I die without them needing to claim they can claim tomorrow.
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Post Post #1608 (isolation #115) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:24 pm

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Now everyone let’s have a scumread party :D
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #116) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:25 pm

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I will go last and have hammers as confirmed town.
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Post Post #1611 (isolation #117) » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:50 pm

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In post 1610, Aubrey wrote:It doesn’t take a genius to narrow down the two slots you maybe connected with. whatever. Going to bed. Relook at things later.
Hence why I am shocked I didn’t die and my mason buddy didn’t.
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #118) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:49 am

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Epic Fial

3 scum in these 6 people. (I left in my mason partner as I don’t want them outed yet.)
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #119) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:56 am

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These are some questions for food for thought if you are town:

1) The Comm Knight / Quick wagons
>> If Comm Knight / Quick are my Mason partner then disregard the below
>> If they are not my partner and you believe both to be town then you have a logic error unless your name is Comm or Quick.
Reason: Four players remain in that list. Subtract one for mason partner. Leaves the scum team.
Conclusion: If CommKnight/Quick are not my mason partners it is highly likely there was a wagon on scum D1 if not more than one.

2) Flubber has been off to the side doing his own thing. Most of the time Flubber has voteparked.
This can be a common scum bussing strategy because they know the wagons are bad and want to stay away yet they want cred so they bus a buddy badly.

3) Similar wagon composition.
A majority of the wagons/days have a similar wagon composition. Per Mastina’s guide that is usually an indication of scum when they deviate.

I expect when a person posts scumreads to account for these logical issues and tell a story of how each day went down.
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #120) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:25 am

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In post 1614, Aubrey wrote:It makes it hard to talk about reads when I have your partner narrowed down to two slots and anything I say well give away who I suspect it to be.
You’re talking about your opinion. Besides I already said my partner would claim the next day. So it is insurance.
Your reads are much more important than that.

Trust me when I say I have been in lylo a shit ton because scum don’t view me as a threat and if people listen we generally get a scum barring town suicide. Your reads please.
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #121) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:27 am

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Secondly that is your opinion. If you’re wrong on your opinion it gives insight to a scum or town state of mind. Surely if you are town you want town to see that yes? And if you are right you deflect any pressure if it exists from my partner. Win win.
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #122) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:35 am

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Okay since that does why do you think the Comm/Quick wagon dissolved?
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #123) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:37 am

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Your reads too Maki. I know you’ve been pretty quiet but your reads could help a lot.
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Post Post #1622 (isolation #124) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:52 am

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Been reading a lot and a little and more focused on why wagons move.

A similar composition of wagons like this is rare.

So you think Flub was pushing a vanity wagon?
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #125) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:24 am

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I could do that at work.
However I think it is best that I don’t
right now


I want to give everyone a platform to shine.

Just let loose. This goes for everyone. Just be like a faucet with your thoughts. If something comes up weird that can be addressed :)
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #126) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:25 am

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Trust me if I agree Flubber needs pushed I will push there.
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #127) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:45 am

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No I actually don’t.

Scum only have one kill.

No vote will happen without my blessing so I don’t have to confirm or deny jack.

Your reads. Now.
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #128) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:46 am

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Anyone voting before I give permission is scum claiming.

You can give reads. We are doing this my way.
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #129) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:49 am

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Where do you think Epic hinted at mason out of curiosity?

Your reads already sucked yesterday and I want to see if it’s gonna be more suck age today.
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #130) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:54 am

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And congrulations we have our first scum.
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #131) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:54 am

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In post 1605, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
In post 1301, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1288, CommKnight wrote:Because your reasoning would be shit.
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o you don't agree with my posts?" You're scum.

Comm knight has played and seen me enough to know that disagreeing with a reason doesn't justify this.

What has to happen is finding the heart and the intent of people.
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #132) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:54 am

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Try again.
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #133) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:57 am

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I have done the same as scum.

It isn’t that you aren’t on wagons. It’s that you aren’t making sense with who you push.

In this scenario you mention you’d push Quick.

But you and Aubrey don’t know for 100% certain who my mason buddy is.

So it is Comm Aubrey Flubber.
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Post Post #1639 (isolation #134) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 1636, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1565, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1191, Epic Fial wrote:Lol I'm bored with haiku technique. Obv frame is obv. On the other hand, unless there is scum on NK's scumlist then he would presumably have been more valuable alive to scum. Killing him seems to indicate he was onto something. At the moment I don't have a clear picture of who that might be. To be honest, though, I have reason to believe both he and scum have been quite unobservant this game. My reason for saying that is something I don't want to disclose right now. Even now i remain suspicious of Comm. I notice on his colour-coded VC he doesn't even notice I have two votes recorded. My votes on him and Lalendra. So if he is really looking for scum that is quite a thing to miss. Obviously it's not damning in itself, but it's not nothing. That's about all i have right now. One thing i urgently need to do is reread. When i have some time today I will. Now I'm going to be busy for a few hours at least.
Epic ain’t a mason lol.
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #135) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:59 am

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In post 1578, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1576, MathBlade wrote: Looking forward to the likely scum flip.
SAF
Calling confirmed mason scum.

That should have told you Epic not a mason.
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #136) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:02 am

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In post 1642, CommKnight wrote:THEN HARD CLAIM YOUR PARTNER. HE CLAIMED MASON, NOW YOU'RE CC'ING HIM. SO FUCKING CLAIM.
In post 1632, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1605, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?
In post 1301, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1288, CommKnight wrote:Because your reasoning would be shit.
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A
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eems like Comm really wants to throw shade onto Epic.
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n top of that he asks what it could be. It could be anything.
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o you don't agree with my posts?" You're scum.

Comm knight has played and seen me enough to know that disagreeing with a reason doesn't justify this.

What has to happen is finding the heart and the intent of people.

Already did. Same pattern ;)

I ain’t silly.

Epic explains now.

Look at my first post on replace in.
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #137) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:03 am

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In post 1299, MathBlade wrote:CommKnight

Making a reads list and not following through is horrible. Asking if someone is scum and then not sorting them in a potential world is ridiculous. Kindheartedly your reads are shit.I will place a vote here until I figure out if your reads are Town shit or scum shit.

VOTE: CommKnight

Sell me on the current wagons people. Why are they a thing?

Look here first things first. I also crumbed that too.

Myself and Maki are the masons.
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #138) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:03 am

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Comm Knight is scum :)
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Post Post #1650 (isolation #139) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:05 am

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Hi :)

Lucca also had a crumb too lol.
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #140) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:11 am

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I will leave that to Maki as I gotta focus on work.
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Post Post #1652 (isolation #141) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:12 am

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So comm and Epic.
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #142) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:15 am

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Nope.

If Epic says that I am their mason buddy we Lynch Epic because I have stated Epic is not my mason.

Try again.
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #143) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:15 am

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If Epic doesn’t rescind the claim we are lynching epic.
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Post Post #1656 (isolation #144) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:16 am

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And if he does then we are lynching Epic.
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:16 am

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So Epic is 100% confirmed scum. It is only a matter of if we get two.
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #146) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:37 am

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Because your post isn’t based in reality. I can’t let you saying my scumreads incorrectly stand.

Epic was never gonna have his buddy back him up. It’s a death sentence for two scum instead of one.
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Post Post #1661 (isolation #147) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:05 am

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In post 1660, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1637, MathBlade wrote:I have done the same as scum.

It isn’t that you aren’t on wagons. It’s that you aren’t making sense with who you push.

In this scenario you mention you’d push Quick.

But you and Aubrey don’t know for 100% certain who my mason buddy is.

So it is
Comm Aubrey Flubber.
Oh look. Your scum reads.
Yes and you’re picking and choosing posts to suit your agenda.

Once I became convinced Epic was truly fakeclaiming mason and not a you+Aubrey setup I changed my reads.

So that is obviously out of date.
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Post Post #1676 (isolation #148) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:40 pm

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In post 1662, CommKnight wrote:But it is your latest public reads. You still never said who is not scum anymore from those 3.
And you are not taking this over.

And no one is answering my questions.

Instead you’re derailing everything.

At this point I have to decide who the fuck is scum and if Epic was genuinely gambitting.

Now let’s get back on track.
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #149) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:41 pm

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In post 1613, MathBlade wrote:These are some questions for food for thought if you are town:

1) The Comm Knight / Quick wagons
>> If Comm Knight / Quick are my Mason partner then disregard the below
>> If they are not my partner and you believe both to be town then you have a logic error unless your name is Comm or Quick.
Reason: Four players remain in that list. Subtract one for mason partner. Leaves the scum team.
Conclusion: If CommKnight/Quick are not my mason partners it is highly likely there was a wagon on scum D1 if not more than one.

2) Flubber has been off to the side doing his own thing. Most of the time Flubber has voteparked.
This can be a common scum bussing strategy because they know the wagons are bad and want to stay away yet they want cred so they bus a buddy badly.

3) Similar wagon composition.
A majority of the wagons/days have a similar wagon composition. Per Mastina’s guide that is usually an indication of scum when they deviate.

I expect when a person posts scumreads to account for these logical issues and tell a story of how each day went down.
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Post Post #1678 (isolation #150) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:42 pm

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We’re doing that.

Since Maki is outed as my partner one of Comm/Quick is forced to be scum unless it is Aubrey Quick Flubber.
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #151) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:44 pm

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In post 632, Torque wrote:
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CommKnight (5): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, lucca261, Quick, Jamiet99uk
Quick (6): CheekyTeeky, Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Lalendra, Maki Harukawa

lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (1): Aubrey

Not voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

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Of particular interest specifically is here and how this formulated.

CommKnight (4): Epic Fial, Quick, Jamiet99uk, Flubbernugget
Quick (5): Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Lalendra, Maki Harukawa

lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (2): Aubrey, lucca261

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome

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Post Post #1680 (isolation #152) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:49 pm

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Flubber explain your move off of Quick then your tunneling him all game.
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #153) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 1683, Epic Fial wrote:And that looks like an attempt to railroading me into saying the scum team is Aubrey, Flubber, Quick. Maybe it is, but I remain to be convinced.
Then what DO you think is the scum team? Again people please.
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #154) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:40 pm

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In post 1613, MathBlade wrote:These are some questions for food for thought if you are town:

1) The Comm Knight / Quick wagons
>> If Comm Knight / Quick are my Mason partner then disregard the below
>> If they are not my partner and you believe both to be town then you have a logic error unless your name is Comm or Quick.
Reason: Four players remain in that list. Subtract one for mason partner. Leaves the scum team.
Conclusion: If CommKnight/Quick are not my mason partners it is highly likely there was a wagon on scum D1 if not more than one.

2) Flubber has been off to the side doing his own thing. Most of the time Flubber has voteparked.
This can be a common scum bussing strategy because they know the wagons are bad and want to stay away yet they want cred so they bus a buddy badly.

3) Similar wagon composition.
A majority of the wagons/days have a similar wagon composition. Per Mastina’s guide that is usually an indication of scum when they deviate.

I expect when a person posts scumreads to account for these logical issues and tell a story of how each day went down.
@Epic @Quick @Comm I expect responses to this in your next post.
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #155) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:40 pm

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In post 1680, MathBlade wrote:Flubber explain your move off of Quick then your tunneling him all game.
@Flubber I expect a response to this as well as the above in your next post
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #156) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 1689, Quick wrote:
In post 1686, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1613, MathBlade wrote:These are some questions for food for thought if you are town:

1) The Comm Knight / Quick wagons
>> If Comm Knight / Quick are my Mason partner then disregard the below
>> If they are not my partner and you believe both to be town then you have a logic error unless your name is Comm or Quick.
Reason: Four players remain in that list. Subtract one for mason partner. Leaves the scum team.
Conclusion: If CommKnight/Quick are not my mason partners it is highly likely there was a wagon on scum D1 if not more than one.

2) Flubber has been off to the side doing his own thing. Most of the time Flubber has voteparked.
This can be a common scum bussing strategy because they know the wagons are bad and want to stay away yet they want cred so they bus a buddy badly.

3) Similar wagon composition.
A majority of the wagons/days have a similar wagon composition. Per Mastina’s guide that is usually an indication of scum when they deviate.

I expect when a person posts scumreads to account for these logical issues and tell a story of how each day went down.
@Epic @Quick @Comm I expect responses to this in your next post.
That's not how I play.
If your play style is avoiding questions from confirmed town then your play style needs to change. Give it your best shot.
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #157) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 1690, Epic Fial wrote:Me neither. I need to re-evaluate in the light of recent revelations.
You too.

About to drive home be back later.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #158) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:17 pm

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In post 1697, Quick wrote:
In post 1693, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1689, Quick wrote:
In post 1686, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1613, MathBlade wrote:These are some questions for food for thought if you are town:

1) The Comm Knight / Quick wagons
>> If Comm Knight / Quick are my Mason partner then disregard the below
>> If they are not my partner and you believe both to be town then you have a logic error unless your name is Comm or Quick.
Reason: Four players remain in that list. Subtract one for mason partner. Leaves the scum team.
Conclusion: If CommKnight/Quick are not my mason partners it is highly likely there was a wagon on scum D1 if not more than one.

2) Flubber has been off to the side doing his own thing. Most of the time Flubber has voteparked.
This can be a common scum bussing strategy because they know the wagons are bad and want to stay away yet they want cred so they bus a buddy badly.

3) Similar wagon composition.
A majority of the wagons/days have a similar wagon composition. Per Mastina’s guide that is usually an indication of scum when they deviate.

I expect when a person posts scumreads to account for these logical issues and tell a story of how each day went down.
@Epic @Quick @Comm I expect responses to this in your next post.
That's not how I play.
If your play style is avoiding questions from confirmed town then your play style needs to change. Give it your best shot.
You are asking me to do something I have never done once as any alignment.. It's not how I work so I have no idea what/why you are expecting me to do this. You will catch me in many games saying NKA is WIFOM. Also, I don't really analyze wagons. Asking me to do this is like asking you to not do Pre-Flip in that vanilla nightless game we played.
Yes I am. I am asking you to try. Just let thoughts flow.

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Post Post #1703 (isolation #159) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:47 pm

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Still reading that other post and yes, I quite frankly admit I have had bad games.

However I have had good ones too and got vigged for being spot on.

And no one is voting anyone til everyone has checked in and my questions are met.
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #160) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:48 pm

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@mod: Did scum have any sort of n0 chat?
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #161) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:51 pm

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F2F Mafia is where I really shine because f2f people forget things and then I generally enjoy just vigging the scums straight through in f2f :)
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #162) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:02 pm

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Seven players remain:
Me and Maki
Comm Knight and Quick
Aubrey Flubber and Epic

From Aubrey,Flubber,and Epic’s viewpoints it is literally impossible for both Comm and Quick to be town.
Otherwise they have to scumread a mason which is lol.

So Aubrey Flubber and Quick have to go back and see which of you is scum to them and why.

From my view point possible teams are

Comm, Quick, Aubrey
Comm,Quick, Epic
Comm, Quick, Flubber
Comm, Aubrey, Epic
Comm, Aubrey, Flubber
Comm, Flubber, Epic

Quick, Aubrey, Flubber
Quick, Aubrey, Epic
Quick, Flubber, Epic

Aubrey, Flubber, Epic
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Post Post #1707 (isolation #163) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:03 pm

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That is what I am getting at.

Seeing which of you (if not both) they scumread is telling.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #164) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:07 pm

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Take your POV CommKnight

It is Quick, Aubrey, Flubber
Or Quick, Aubrey, Epic
Quick, Flubber, Epic
Or Aubrey, Flubber, Epic

If you assume one person is town then to you the game is solved if you are right and are a VT.
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #165) » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:08 pm

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Forcing these people to confront these realities and then try to explain it is a good thing.
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #166) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:32 am

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I am thinking Epic is town. I don’t see why scum would sabotage their buddies unless scum had a n0 chat.
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #167) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:34 am

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Premise:
If Epic is town, then three scum in {CommKnight,Flubber,Aubrey, Quick}

This means one of the wagons from day one is scum.
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #168) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:38 am

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In post 632, Torque wrote:
Votecount 1.11


CommKnight (5): Chisa Yukizome, Epic Fial, lucca261, Quick, Jamiet99uk
Quick (6): CheekyTeeky, Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Lalendra, Maki Harukawa

lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (1): Aubrey

Not voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

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If Quick is town then every wagon here is on town except CommKnight who would be forced to be scum by PoE and it is an all Town wagon except CommKnight and Flubber (Cheeky)

If CommKnight is town then it is an all town wagon except Quick.

This means that Aubrey is off in the sidelines.
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #169) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:39 am

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In post 661, Aubrey wrote:Oh, while it'd be funny, don't lynch someone on a holiday plz. K, and thanks.
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #170) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:43 am

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Knowing at least one of Comm Knight and Quick very likely scum makes that comment stick out like a sore thumb.

I would love it if Flubber would come by and answer that question.
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Post Post #1719 (isolation #171) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:45 am

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In post 683, Quick wrote:
In post 682, CommKnight wrote:And then?

You're right. I haven't. Because you're stuck on disliking my confidence than having a real case against me. Look at those that are already jumping off me. Like dude, tunneling me and 1v1'ing me was a bad mistake. Unless you can get a wagon on someone scummier, me vs you. You're dead 100%.

So what's it gonna be? Make an actual good case to convince us to lynch someone else, or get hung?
My case is the same, which you STILL do not address. No one should have any incentive to Town read you. You're just playing a manipulative as shit game. No one should be Town reading you because you haven't done anything Townie!!!
I’d put money on Quick being scum with Aubrey. Main question becomes if Comm is buttering me up or if Flubber is trying to lurk sac a win imho
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #172) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:50 am

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In post 1711, Quick wrote:Comm, I'm not doing Pre-Flip, I'm just not. I'm not going to look at teams until we get a Scum flip.

As far as independently Scummy, I would say:

My number one pick for Scum atm is Flubber. I think his reads have been pretty stale all game. I might actually build a case on him later in the day from an ISO, but that is going to have to come after I am finished with a few games.

Aubry is really hit or miss IMO. Sometimes their Townieness shines through, but other times its like "WTF? this is Scummy as shit" which is usually an indication typical of Scum in general.

Epic I had as Town yesterday. That read has changed. I don't like him hinting mason one bit. That said, it's almost too Scummy to be Scum.

Comm: Comm is one of those guys I hate playing with because you never actually know if they are Town or Scum. It's his whole playstyle that I am getting this from. He never really Scum hunts, and while normally that would be a huge Scum tell for me, I think he just doesn't do it as either alignment. I get the sense he nerfs his Town game so he can be better at Scum which I can't say I hate enough. I almost want to PL him based on all this, but he's prolly Town because of the wagon shit he talks about.

TL;DR
  1. Flubber
  2. Aubry
  3. Epic
  4. Comm
That's about where I am at right now.
This ordering doesn’t make sense.

You townread Epic and Comm but this ordering is atrocious. This actually makes me scumread CommKnight more. If something is too scummy to be scum = hard townread. They should be at the bottom of your list. Yet you put Comm at the bottom who is “probably” town. The fact your number one read is Flubber as scum feels like to me you’re trying to appeal to Maki.
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #173) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:52 am

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In post 1720, CommKnight wrote:The problem is Math, you're assuming Epic is town. I think either Flubber or Quick is town with Aubrey and Epic being confirmed scum.
Except Epic isn’t.

I was angry yes, but reason wins out. I don’t see scum making that post and even if I am wrong in that regard I don’t see them bringing it much sooner or having a plan on how to deal with it for every possible contingency. People seemed genuinely surprised.
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #174) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:57 am

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In post 435, Aubrey wrote:GET OFF YOUR PHONE AND USE A COMPUTER.
In post 436, Aubrey wrote:<3 with love - Aubrey.

This has been a public service announcement.
In post 442, Aubrey wrote:We've already had a similar conversation with Jamiet after he said something else previously that was soft claimish at the very beginning of the game. It should have been already quietly determined to everyone he wasn't a mason.
Interesting how here Aubrey has no issues with multiple pages and now Aubrey does. Aubrey why you stalling?
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #175) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:57 am

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In post 1723, CommKnight wrote:You know who is scum and we could start off right today?

<AUBREY>

Even scum will have to bus him today. He just sticks out too much.

It'd at least start us off right today.
Hold your engines there.

No reason to go fast. Flubber still hasn’t checked in and we have plenty of time. No reason to rush anything.
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #176) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:59 am

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@mod:Please prod Flubbernugget?
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #177) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:38 am

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So then Epic could have been coached.

So then that theory needs pursuing too. Damn. Was hoping the newer was no.
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #178) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:39 am

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In post 1729, MathBlade wrote:So then Epic could have been coached.

So then that theory needs pursuing too. Damn. Was hoping the answer was no.
Autocorrect you stink sometimes lol.
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #179) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:49 pm

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Lol Quick is very much the coaching type. Comm maybe.

Quick from my experience in the flipless believes mafia should be played a certain way and I run counter to that.

I can easily see Quick or Comm (especially Comm now that I think about it) possibly making that move.

I really wanna see what Flubber has to say.
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #180) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:51 pm

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However I will probably trust Maki’s judgment on Epic that he wasn’t coached as reading some of the ISO again feels genuine.
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Post Post #1739 (isolation #181) » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:42 pm

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In post 1735, Epic Fial wrote:
In post 1734, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1732, MathBlade wrote:Lol Quick is very much the coaching type. Comm maybe.

Quick from my experience in the flipless believes mafia should be played a certain way and I run counter to that.

I can easily see Quick or Comm (especially Comm now that I think about it) possibly making that move.

I really wanna see what Flubber has to say.
Not gonna lie, if I was mafia. I'd be taking charge of the PT 100%. Especially now. But the kills mafia made make 0 sense to me. Like for me, they're eliminating people I would've suspected over the TRs I had. Aubrey was in a good position for a while and so was Quick after D1. If Flubber really is mafia, he's still in a good position.

But the kills have been on people that I would've likely lynched in LYLO situation.

So I'm left wondering, what is their purpose for these kills? Who are they trying to con?
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #182) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:51 am

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Gonna be gone most of today. Someone please poke Flubber again. If there’s no content soon I would want someone playing the game.
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #183) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:15 pm

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I have to drive home.

The funny thing is I actually townread you before that outburst. I promised Maki I would look at you and I am pushing everyone because Maki actually scumread you as you’ll see in the PT post game. Kinda ironic huh?

How about instead of calling me horrible for a few paragraphs you address why you hopped off Quick like I asked?

Won’t be on again for a few hours.
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #184) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 1687, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1680, MathBlade wrote:Flubber explain your move off of Quick then your tunneling him all game.
@Flubber I expect a response to this as well as the above in your next post
Here it is for you.
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #185) » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:09 pm

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In post 1753, CommKnight wrote:@Flubber, you know, out of you and Quick, I'm TR'ing you a little more than him.

Also fuck what they say. I'm sorry, but Math needs to be called out on not reading. I don't care if he's confirmed town or not, at this point, not reading for the answers to your questions is anti-town behaviour (even though they're confirmed town this game, which makes it 10 times worse).

I think we should start with Epic, then Aubrey, then Quick. Bang, bang, bang. 3 scum in a fucking row.

Also think about D1, Aubrey is the one who "hammered" Quick and got the reaction from Quick that I TR'd until today. So do you really think Aubrey is town? He's not even interacting directly with me now that I've called out the team because he doesn't want to confirm my suspicions there by slipping up in any way.

Either way of how you read Aubrey, you agree with me that Epic is scum, so let's start there.

@Math, you gotta start this, because I will take control of this lynch if I have to steer us in the right direction. We need three correct lynches. I want the first to be in the right way to start us off.
I am reading and I will do what I want when I want.

I literally spent 6 hours driving today and what other time I have I spent on the thread.

I am not asking why Flubber thinks Quick is scum. That is spammed practically. I am asking a more nuisanced question.

And if you were reading I posted with Maki rescinding my scumread back to null.

This is the third time I have said cool your jets.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #186) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:33 am

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@Maki Thoughts? If there is a tomorrow there will probably be an NK on me and so you would have to drive. Are you ready for that and if so who do you scumread as the team?
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #187) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:31 am

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In post 1770, Flubbernugget wrote:The only "nuance" your question offers is the possibility that I could have tunneled quick all game without scum reading them, which is really stupid.
If you’re town it is genuine you have been scumreading Quick all game.
However your reasoning helps me to figure out the Comm/Quick fiasco day one.

So please answer me: why did you switch off Quick to Comm?
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Post Post #1772 (isolation #188) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:35 am

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In post 1763, CommKnight wrote:@Math, I got an idea for a game. We make the 4 of them vote within each other. Scum won't be able to lynch them because the townie will be voting scum. The 3 scum cannot lynch the townie without one of us voting as well.

So you, me, and Maki withhold our votes while forcing the four of them to vote and give reasons why they're voting who they're voting in those 4. The reason why it's fun, is because scum will be forced to vote with a 66% chance of HAVING to bus. While we're free to WIFOM the shit out of them on catching them in their bus or if they're really voting the only townie in the 4.

Want to play it? It'll be FUNNN!!!
I am familiar with the concept of hammer testing.

I am just trying to see the entire narrative of how this game went top to bottom so I can give my suggestions to Maki for when I inevitably die overnight if there is. One of the benefits of my lylo game is that it is inherently slower than my regular game.

Comm explain why you townread Flub? And not with a “because I scumread Epic Aubrey and Quick”. Why do you townread Flub?
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #189) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:36 am

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However here it is a horrible way to play lylo as there are two unconfirmed townies.

As soon as town votes town the scum can switch and dog pile.
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #190) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:34 am

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Yeah not really seeing it here. I think Flubber is town here Maki.
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #191) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:36 am

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In post 1745, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1743, Maki Harukawa wrote:Flubber posts content when he finally gets pushed i'm SHOCKED
Unless you're considering my grievances content, my last post is one paragraph longer than the majority of my posting in this game. It's probably less content per number of pages between my posts than I've typically been posting.

Like c' mon now
Maki as annoying as it is to have a player disappear that is NAI. I just don’t see Flubber scum and am not interested in lynching Flubber today.
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Post Post #1777 (isolation #192) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:39 am

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I think I just figured out why Chisa died.
I hard townread Chisa based on VCA and so scum might have figured out I was a mason but didn’t know my partner. That also explains the Maki or Epic bit too. Comm, Aubrey, Quick is looking an awful lot like the team here.
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Post Post #1778 (isolation #193) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:41 am

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In post 1734, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1732, MathBlade wrote:Lol Quick is very much the coaching type. Comm maybe.

Quick from my experience in the flipless believes mafia should be played a certain way and I run counter to that.

I can easily see Quick or Comm (especially Comm now that I think about it) possibly making that move.

I really wanna see what Flubber has to say.
Not gonna lie, if I was mafia. I'd be taking charge of the PT 100%. Especially now. But the kills mafia made make 0 sense to me. Like for me, they're eliminating people I would've suspected over the TRs I had. Aubrey was in a good position for a while and so was Quick after D1. If Flubber really is mafia, he's still in a good position.

But the kills have been on people that I would've likely lynched in LYLO situation.

So I'm left wondering, what is their purpose for these kills? Who are they trying to con?
That implies they are trying to con someone. Let’s look at each kill in turn.
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #194) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:44 am

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northsidegal Not15 and Chisa were the three kills.

Northside had a perfect game and no town or scum ever voted north. Potential mason candidate. This implies that either A) Scum did not see Epic’s attempt at mason crumbing, B) Wanted to find out who was masons with Epic or C) Epic is scum.
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #195) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:50 am

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Not15 also was not widely suspected. This means that scum were mason hunting with their kills and not killing based on reads. They may have contributed but they weren’t the primary factor.

This also means that one or more of Comm/Aubrey are scum based on their initial open of pumping me for mason claim info.

This means scum didn’t know who the second mason was and planned on mislynching Maki today. More than likely they expected me to say Epic was the mason if Epic is town.
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #196) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:52 am

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So if it is Comm Aubrey Quick let’s do some looking at the thread and make sure that narrative is consistent throughout the whole game.
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #197) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 782, Torque wrote:
Votecount 1.13


CommKnight (4): Epic Fial, Quick, Jamiet99uk, Maki Harukawa
Quick (6): Awoo, northsidegal, CommKnight, Lalendra, Flubbernugget, Aubrey

lucca261 (1): Flavor Leaf
Lalendra (2): lucca261

Not voting: Chisa Yukizome, Maki Harukawa

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2017-11-03 10:00:00)
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Make your votes clear to see who it is on please :|
Considering Comm’s reasoning of not no lynching twice is why he hammered Day Two and then he doesn’t stay on Quick day one and support that lynch means Comm and Quick are almost certainly scum together.
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #198) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:00 am

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It also explains why scum didn’t hammer for towncred. They couldn’t if both scum were on Quick already and Quick almost never self hammers as scum. Instead the wagon diverged.
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #199) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:11 am

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In post 783, Aubrey wrote:I'm going to be direct and somewhat cold about this. If I feel like you're scraping by, and your content isn't matching the norm in your catchups, and you say' "well life is busy" I straight up won't give a damn. I'm understanding to a busy schedule, holidays, and RL troubles but at some point your content has to fully make up and account for that lack of activity.

This doesn't just pertain to you but to everyone.
^^ Holds Aubrey to Aubrey’s standard.
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