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[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not scum.

[Wickedestjr]

This was your last post before you quick hammered:

I want to vote but don't want to quick hammer.

Yet you still decided to quick hammer. The only thing that changed between that post and your quick hammer was me explaining why you're scum and voting for you. And I repeat: you hammered before she even had a chance to claim.

Why in the world would you think that's acceptable?

[TwoInAMillion]

Because I know I am town and I think she is scum. Obviously I am not alone in that thought.

[iDanyboy]

TIAM lynch next...

[Nexus]

Votecount 2.3:

Lalendra (6-LYNCH)

- Sephiroth, implosion, iDanyboy, wavemode, Sergtacos, TwoInAMillion

Sergtacos (2)

- skitter30, Flubbernugget

iDanyboy (1)

- Lalendra

TwoInAMillion (1)

- Wickedestjr

Not voting (1)

- Chip Butty

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 8pm GMT on Monday 11th December 2017. ((expired on 2017-12-11 20:00:00))

Lalendra has been lynched. Flip incoming.

[Nexus]

Lalendra - Town Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2

Night 2 now begins. It will end in 48 hours (ish) at 8pm GMT on Monday 4th December 2017 (expired on 2017-12-04 21:00:00)

[Nexus]

Wickedestjr - Vanilla Townie - killed Night 2
iDanyboy - Vanilla Townie - killed Night 2

Day 3 begins. With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline in 10 days, at 9pm GMT on Thursday 14th December 2017 (expired on 2017-12-14 22:00:00)

[TwoInAMillion]

I am the town backup roleblocker and am now the active roleblocker now that Lelandra has died.

[Flubbernugget]

Cool

Your scumbuddies tell you to say that?

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: tiam

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not scum, so no.

I have a provable power so lynching me is dumb.

[Sephiroth]

This is pretty easy. There's no excuse for hammering without waiting for claim that early in the day.

vote: Tiam

Provable how? You didn't even claim your targets...

[TwoInAMillion]

I haven't had any targets, I was a backup. NOW I have targets going forward. And yeah, i did have an excuse because I didn't want to be mislynched and Lelandra was acting really scummy.

[skitter30]

Can y'all not be idiots and not vote yet? There's pretty decent evidence that we might be dealing with an sk, and if there's 3 scum we could well be in mylo right now - 4 town, three scum, one sk.

So like, don't do anything stupid.

More when I'm not about to be driving.

[Sephiroth]

I considered that possibility but I don't have any issue with someone being at L-3. I'll unvote if anyone else votes them.

[wavemode]

VOTE: tiam

Serg is scum. Seph is scum.

This is likely mylo. If anyone has any useful results they might as well claim...

[wavemode]

Didn't mean to quote that

[skitter30]

I considered that possibility but I don't have any issue with someone being at L-3. I'll unvote if anyone else votes them.

Yeah, sorry if I was harsh.

I'm just feeling:

a) really, really annoyed about how the day ended. We weren't anywhere close to ending day2. I'm usually here and can keep an eye on developments, but I'm offline on Saturday for religious reasons, and I came back after literally like a day to find that the game basically got set on fire and imploded in my absence.

b) kinda concerned that we'll have another quickhammer, given that we have wave (pops in to naked vote the L-2 vote, and appears to be aware that he was casting that vote, and literally hadn't mentioned her at all day2, and hasn't implied a read on her since like early-mid day1), serg (wanted to lolhammer his locktownread and pops in to naked vote the L-1 vote without checking the vc), and two (doesn't want to end the day early but quickhammers someone without intent or a claim or anything)

c) completely unconfident in all of my reads, which I'm now throwing out the window and completely resetting, so I don't necessarily actually trust you to unvote when other people vote. Can you like unvote so that we can work this out?


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Things that I'm thinking right now:

1. 8 players. Strong evidence that we may be dealing with an SK: wossi flipped FBI agent, and there were two kills last night. I don't really believe that a vig would decide to kill either dany or wicked (as opposed to killing like serg/two), so sk looks pretty likely. If true and there are three scum, right now we have 4 town, 3 scum, and 1 sk. If true and two scum, there are 5 town, two scum, and 1 sk. Either way, we're decently close to endgame right now. I'm strongly encouraging people to exercise caution when they vote given that we're pretty close to endgame and we have people who lolvote and are willing to quickhammer or lolhammer.

2. The Lalendra wagon is god-awful (I was suspicoius about how fast it happened on Friday which is why I didn't want to vote there and I was going to talk about it when I got back Saturday night since I figured we had time, but that didn't happen obviously) and I'm going to have to look at it in greater detail. Off the top of my head, wave's, serg's, and two's votes were all varying degrees of ick, and I have to look at the earlier votes as well.

3. Two, that was a *really* awful thing to do. 898 on the heels of 889 is ick. The fact that other people thought she was scummy did not mean that you should have quickhammered her without like giving intent or asking for a claim. 902 is not a good explanation for that. The fact that you have a proveable ability doesn't really do much; like you're right, we can prove that you have that ability, but that doesn't really tell us anything about your alignment. (910) And why on earth would you be worried about being mislynched with one vote on you? (912)

4. I'm throwing out all of my reads and completely resetting. On my to-do list is that I want to go back and look at wicked/dany's reads and see what they were thinking. I'm aware that they both wanted two, but I'm just asking that people exercise caution given the gamestate and the fact that we have several lolvoters.

[Sephiroth]

b) kinda concerned that we'll have another quickhammer, given that we have wave (pops in to naked vote the L-2 vote, and appears to be aware that he was casting that vote, and literally hadn't mentioned her at all day2, and hasn't implied a read on her since like early-mid day1), serg (wanted to lolhammer his locktownread and pops in to naked vote the L-1 vote without checking the vc), and two (doesn't want to end the day early but quickhammers someone without intent or a claim or anything)

That's fair.

unvote

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I'm fairly confident that TIAM is not town. I think the lolquickhammer with no claim and after explicitly talking about how we can't afford a mislynch crosses the line from 'lol TIAM' to 'this dude is actively making moves with the purpose of hurting town'. Its certainly possible that TIAM is SK and that would explain why their playstyle is very outside of their norm this game. Either way he's far and away my number one lynch candidate. I think Wave is a far scummier vote than Serg's given the context of Sergs play and the context of waves play. I don't see how waves naked vote makes any sense, especially given the fact that they had a chance to unvote AFTER the -1 and AFTER Wicked noted it was L-1. Why not unvote, or ask for a claim? Why are you sitting there saying that you think TIAM is scummy and putting a player at -1 with no stated reasoning? Like wave, you literally saw wicked vote for tiam with a post full of reasoning, how did you not move your vote there or at least unvote when it became clear there was a chance of a competing wagon?

[wavemode]

Your question is sort of loaded and makes a lot of assumptions and I'm on my phone so I'm just gonna sidestep that and say in general that A. I've thought Lal was scummy since early game, and B. I didn't think we'd have a hammer without a claim.

[Flubbernugget]

Hngh

UNVOTE:

[TwoInAMillion]

I realize that hammering was not optimal, so I apologize that it had to be done. In hindsight, I obviously would not have done it. I felt like the odds of Lelandra being town vs. the odds of me being lynched necessitated it.

[Flubbernugget]

I'm drunk and I have a small little notepad of things I want to say to you right now and I'm pretty sure they would all get me banned

[Flubbernugget]

I guess that means the troll wins then

Life is a bitch

[Sergtacos]

VOTE: 2 in a million

keep on him