Open 67 Two of Four (a7) Over! before 578

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My name is Latin for "townie fo' shizzle". I'll let you decide whether your apology precedes your unvote or succeeds it.

Vote: DoctorJimmy

because if you replace "Do" with an S and "torJi" with a u, it becomes clear that he is in fact Scummy!

FoS Near and Farside22

. One's near, and one's far? I call that distancing!

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Moz: any reason you put Farside at L-1 rather than Jimmy?

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Moz: How did you not realize you were putting Farside at L-1?

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And, to look even more scummy, lets straight away try and get another band wagon going :)

VOTE LOWELL

I like this guy. He's my number 1 town suspect at the moment.

Why?

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Unvote, vote: Lowell

for not answering 23

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On the other hand, voting someone for not voting this early in the game is pretty stupid. However you didn't point this out. Confirm Vote: farside22

If you know it was stupid why were you doing it?

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Farside responded to my post seriously. I am lead to think this way because he cited "hypocrisy" and voted me. In the mind of a scum, he is concerned that people find him suspicious. So it's natural for scum to get defensive. The fact that farside pointed out my hypocrisy, and accused me in the same way because of it, he is admitting his scuminess without putting much thoughts into it. This is a behavior of a scum.

Defensive = scummy? That's pretty hard to justify, considering every game of Mafia ever played has at least one townie defending themselves. If Farside is town, how exactly would you have expected her to react?

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Well, reading through, we aint got much have we? But I am hardly in a position to moan, seeing as i havent poste for days.
Out of evryone, I say that Erratus Apapthos looks the most scummy-just a few posts , and in all of them hes trying to play the "I am really balanced" card. In the few games i have played, that been a scum tell (and one I have tried when i have been scum).

Of course, he could just be really balanced.

I don't know what you mean by "balanced". Could you explain?

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In a way, that is what i mean. From mmy limited experience, when i have been scum, I have been much more cautious and "balnced" (throwing out comments like "Lets be careful here guys etc).
Now Appoteosis Erratus is prob a better and more experienceed player than that.
But he looks slightly scummy.

Of course, if he is town, then i am simply unfairly accusing him of playing sensibly.

Just too sensibly for my liking 8-)

Okay, but I don't see why you're targeting me with this accusation. Both Jimmy unvoting Farside and Farside unvoting Jimmy were out of fear of a quicklynch, and those unvotes strike me as considerably more cautious than anything I've said or done. Especially Farside's unvote, which was only from L-2.

And as much as I'd like to be called an experienced player, I haven't completed even a single game yet.

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Especially Farside's unvote, which was only from L-2.

Come to think of it, it's contradictory that she worried about a Jimmy quicklynch when he was at L-2, but then voted Near to L-2.

Unvote, vote: Farside22

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Especially Farside's unvote, which was only from L-2.

Come to think of it, it's contradictory that she worried about a Jimmy quicklynch when he was at L-2, but then voted Near to L-2.

Unvote, vote: Farside22

Random vote versus actual reason for vote.

The reason you voted is irrelevant to the contradiction I'm pointing out here, which relates to the reason you unvoted. Specifically you unvoted Jimmy to prevent a quicklynch when he was only at L-2, then shortly afterwards you put Near at L-2 where he could just as easily be quicklynched as Jimmy could have been. The point is that I don't think you were honestly concerned about Jimmy's welfare.

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I unvoted on the 20th of March and voted on the 25th of march. How exactly do you get shortly after in your statement? I stated on the 22nd about not trusting people like moz.

I was going by post count rather than real time. The vote was only three posts after the unvote.

Seriously no matter how I voted it is either I don't vote and Near votes for me for that stupidness or I vote for someone I find scummie and you vote for me for placing someone I find scummie who is avoiding answers by the way, how can anyone defend against either of these two both trying to make me looks scummie no matter how I vote.

You could explain why you didn't trust Moz to not put Jimmy at an early L-1, but did trust him not to put Near at an early L-1.

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Unvote, Vote: Lowell

His constant lack of scumhunting sets off my scumdar more than Farside. Not that I've changed my mind on her.

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Given that I'm currently in the deadline lynch spot, I'd really like to see some kind of a response from Near and Lowell to my questions.

QFT, ignoring questions this close to deadline is really anti-town.

If farside is not gonna be hear then why don't we get rid of him now and move on to the next day?

Lynching someone who can't claim? I can't see how that could possibly be a good idea unless you're really sure she's scum.

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With an imminent deadline, we really need to be deciding who the lynch is.

I'm thinking Greasy is the lynch. His push for a Farside lynch is not only as opportunistic as all nine rings of hell (Hey, let's lynch the player who can't claim or defend herself!) but hypocritical given that he hasn't done any scumhunting himself. And in a format where one mislynch means LyLo, lynching someone just for having limited access is not something that could possibly strike me as a good idea.

Unvote, Vote: Greasy Spot

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Unvote, Vote: Near

for deadline lurking. (Yeah I see you posting in your other games as recently as yesterday, does two days to deadline not prompt you to post?)

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Deadline's in 15 hours I believe.

My voting on EA was more by process of elimination rather than specific thing he did that was scummy. Despite my doubting of your claim, i never thought your predecessor Moz was scummy, so for now I will give you a benefit of doubt.

Lowell doesn't feel scummy because he posted what looks like to me genuine scum hunting contents.

Doctor Jimmy - not sure.

Thorbjorn - scummy because he didn't do anything the whole game other than avoiding the spotlight.

farside- not sure

EA- scummy because he hasn't made any "commitment" posts.

I actually don't mind voting for Thorbjorn or EA. But I think either is the best lynch for today.

1. Why are you voting me by process of elimination if you haven't eliminated Jimmy or Farside?
2. "Commitment" posts? You mean like in post 36 where you "committed" to Farside, or 74 where you "committed" to Jimmy, or 125 where you "committed" to Greasy, or just now when you "committed" to me and Thorb/DGB? And then you use my vote hopping against me, how convenient. Tell you what, here's a commitment for you: I commit that DIE IN A FIRE SCUMBAG

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GS, what did you do last night?

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There's plenty more for you to say if you have an interest in hunting scum.

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I still believe Greasy is scum. I'll write a more detailed post when I have time later today.

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As promised my GS analysis.

First of all

unvote:

I don't get the whole Near vs. Farside thing. Near votes Far for not voting which is a stupid reason at that time in the game. Farside is defending herself from Near who is trying to make something out of nothing (I think). I haven't quite firgured out where DJ fits in there yet. Where ever Farside is DJ is close by it seems. Could be nothing but will keep my eyes open. Generally I am all for a Farside Day 1 Lynch but I haven't seen any scumming yet from her so that can wait.

He starts out implicating Near as having the weaker logic against Farside, but then at the end he'd rather lynch Farside? That really doesn't make sense. Then right after backing the Farside lynch, he tells us that Farside hasn't done anything scummy at all. It looks a lot like he's trying to get attention off Farside, while keeping the bus door open just in case it stays on.

If farside is not gonna be hear then why don't we get rid of him now and move on to the next day?

This could be taking advantage of a townie who can't defend herself, or it could be a jump onto the bus, but it's definitely not scum hunting.

I was not pushing for her lynch it was simply a suggestion being as she was going to be here. It would only strike Farsides scum partner the wrong way not the other townies.

I don't see how anyone could reasonably believe that "I am all for a Farside Day 1 Lynch" and "If farside is not gonna be hear then why don't we get rid of him now" fail to qualify as pushing for a Farside lynch. The bit about only scum objecting comes off as quite a bit OMGUSy, certainly moreso than Lowell's vote for him and Near's vote for me, both of which he called out as scummy OMGUS.

I don't like Lowell. His post in 74

(EBWOP'd to 82)

reeks of scum trying to over analyze to look like a townie.

vote: Lowell

Scums love to stifle analysis, and that's exactly what this vote is.

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Reading all this how do you explain DGB hammer vote when she just comes in the game with nothing else to say. We still had time to talk.

Oh really? Deadline was April 11 4:39 PM; DGB's hammer was April 11 1:46 PM, costing all of us two hours and fifty-three minutes' worth of discussion. If that's your best argument against DGB, I'm not impressed.

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Right now DGB is my top suspect. I'm not sure who her partner would be at this point, but with GS cop and my own alignment assured I only have to look at 3 people so I am believing more and more about one person just need one more person to stand out.

Farside refuses to consider the possibility that Greasy is scum...

Good grief, no wonder gamesnever end, if hammering a player means you're next in line the following day.

GS, that vote on EA was pretty OMGUS was it not. Other than EA accusing you, I think it's fair to say that EA is the most townie player in the game. I don't understand why you'd do something so rash at LyLo.

The scum hasn't come and hammered Farside though, which leads me to believe that Farside may indeed be scum, possibly with DrJimmy, or less likely, with GS with the dodgy night choice, and the rash vote on EA.

Yeah, that would make sense, GS voting EA, but then until a townie votes for EA, farside can't hammer... and that would look bad on both of them, so farside tells him to unvote.

I have bad news for you scumbags, I will not vote for EA today unless he confesses to being scum.

Actually you got it all wrong. See you voted for Farside and she hasn't been quick lynched yet so it shows that you are scum and waited for someone else to jump on board so your partner can quicklynch.

...and Greasy refuses to consider the possibility that Farside is scum.

GS please unvote before we get a quick vote.

Farside if you thought DGB was scum why didn't you vote her?

And they both coach each other's votes.

If this isn't a scumpair then I'll be damned.

Vote: Farside22