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[implosion]

Like, I guess I'm not seeing what is AI about the perceived negatives you've written above

It feels like since d1 you haven't contributed substantively in the game and have been sitting on the sidelines commenting on irrelevant things to look active, not really committing to anything and not really directly engaging in the meaningful arguments that have been taking place. None of the questions you've asked people since then have any clear reason behind them other than you just trying to look like you're asking questions. Which has obvious scum motivations compared to town motivations but i can spell it out more explicitly if you want.

[wavemode]

It "feels" that way but none of it's true...

[wavemode]

"since day 1" is literally just day 2. I'm reading my day 2 ISO and not really understanding how you're gathering your observations from it. Where am I not committing? Where am I not making my thoughts known? Why is the onus on me to insert myself into inane day 2 arguments? Was I inserting myself into other people's arguments on day 1? (spoiler: no.) And what questions have I asked that were meaningless? And where am I commenting on irrelevant things?

[Sergtacos]

wave, who do u think is scum?

Implosion, who do you think is scum?

[wavemode]

I've got a nagging suspicion we're looking at a serg/seph/chip team

[Sergtacos]

I've got a nagging suspicion we're looking at a serg/seph/chip team

why me? whats ur case against me?

[wavemode]

im a meme?

Your shade there makes no sense from a town perspective. Do you think Chip is scummy or not? If you do then you should be all in favor of me pointing out that Chip dodged the question I asked him. If not then why are you voting him?

Like, even if I saw a Chip wagon forming and decided to ask that question to spur the wagon on (that's not what happened but let's just assume hypothetically it did)... what would be wrong with that? It's good to engage the person, understand their motivations, and properly determine whether I want to join the wagon or not.

You pointing out my pressure on Chip and calling it "off" makes me feel like your Chip vote is more strategic than genuine...

To be fair I don't necessarily think Mulch and Serg are partners but I'm about 75% sure mulch is scum and Serg is literally just trolling. But I don't think its fair to completely dismiss the possibility given how easily Mulch abandoned his push on Serg...

Seph how does this read to you:

VOTE: Chipbutty

Chip are you avoiding my question

I don't like how this is posted after Mulch and I voted for Chip.

The timing feels off to me. It feels forced. It's like you see us voting for him then you decided to say that.

Because to me it looks a lot like scum who knows that Chip is town and is trying to show reluctance to the wagon. Why would town serg consider me pressuring chip at that point to be a bad thing?

As plenty of people have already pointed out, serg is putting in more effort to seem town in this game than he usually does as town. In light of Mulch's arguments I'm more critical of his behavior. The point I highlighted in 637 is significant imo.

This was a valid observation and matched my perception:

Its almost like Serg is trying to be more erratic after multiple people said town!serg is more erratic, especially this L-1 on-and-off-again little stunt

You say he is just trolling but that's not actually what he's doing, a significant number of his posts make serious arguments and try to reference meta even. So there's a scummy kind of disconnect, I think, when he tries to make serious arguments and throw shade in half his posts, especially more in the early game, but then diverts back to trolling when anyone looks at him sideways.

[Sergtacos]

lame case ^

[Chip Butty]

Votecount 1.14:

Mulch (7-LYNCH)

- Flubbernugget, Chip Butty, skitter30, Wossi, Sephiroth, implosion, iDanyboy

Lalendra (2)

- Sergtacos, Wickedestjr

Wossi (1)

- TwoInAMillion

Sergtacos (1)

- wavemode

Sephiroth (1)

- Lalendra

iDanyboy (1)

- Mulch

Not Voting (2)

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With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 3pm GMT on Sunday 26th November 2017 ((expired on 2017-11-26 15:00:00))

Mulch has been lynched. Flip incoming. wavemode and Lalendra have been prodded.

Votecount 2.3:

Lalendra (6-LYNCH)

- Sephiroth, implosion, iDanyboy, wavemode, Sergtacos, TwoInAMillion

Sergtacos (2)

- skitter30, Flubbernugget

iDanyboy (1)

- Lalendra

TwoInAMillion (1)

- Wickedestjr

Not voting (1)

- Chip Butty

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 8pm GMT on Monday 11th December 2017. ((expired on 2017-12-11 20:00:00))

Lalendra has been lynched. Flip incoming.

First thing i want to say is I can't figure out 2IAM's hammer. If scum it was incredibly blatant. I don't buy his excuse though.

[Chip Butty]

Interesting factoid: Sephiroth, implosion, and iDanyboy were on both town lynches, consecutively and in the same order.

[Chip Butty]

I didn't vote d2 as i was taken by surprise by the early hammer, but i did say i was leaning away from Lalendra and toward 2IAM.

[Chip Butty]

The only one who offvoted twice was wickedest, who was town.

[Chip Butty]

Mulch and Lalendra both voted iDanyboy before getting lynched.

[Chip Butty]

Ignoring for the time being the possibility of an SK, the only unflipped ones not on rhe Lalendra wagon d2 were me, skitter, and flubber. Since i am town, that leaves the other two. Yes i know that's from my pov. Assuming 3 scum, at keast 1 is on Lalendra.

[Chip Butty]

So at least one scum in Sephi, implosion, Taco, wave, and 2IAM.

[Chip Butty]

D1 the only unflipped off voters were Taco, wave, and 2IAM. So either that is the scum team, or there is scum on Mulch's wagon.

Oddly enough, the off team is made entirely of people i have found scummy: wave, Taco, and 2IAM.

The unflipped guys from the Mulch wagon are me, skitter, Sephi, Flubber, and implosion.

[Chip Butty]

Let's make the assumption that each night, there is at least one scum on the kynch, and one off.

D1:
On: one in [Chip, skitter, Sephi, Flubber, implosion ]
Off: one in [wave, Taco, 2IAM]

D2:
On: [Sephi, implosion, wave, Taco, 2IAM]
Off: [Chip, skitter, Flubber]

[Chip Butty]

I suspect scum would be wary of being on both lynches, so a little town cred for Aephi and implosion.

[Chip Butty]

Interesting factoid: me, skitter, and Flubber follow the same pattern. On the Mulch lynch, off Lalendra.

[Chip Butty]

At least one scum must be in the one-on, one-off group, which is
[Chip, skitter, Flubber, wave, Taco, 2IAM]

[Chip Butty]

Nothing damning yet. I'll be back in about ten hours. I noticed some questions to me while skimming through. Will answer after a proper read through of the latest.

[Sergtacos]

Interesting factoid: me, skitter, and Flubber follow the same pattern. On the Mulch lynch, off Lalendra.

does this sound scummy? it does to me.

[Chip Butty]

I'm probably inclined to lynch 2IAM atm...

[Sergtacos]

At least one scum must be in the one-on, one-off group, which is
[Chip, skitter, Flubber, wave, Taco, 2IAM]

what do you mean by this and "one-on, one-off group"?

[Chip Butty]

Interesting factoid: me, skitter, and Flubber follow the same pattern. On the Mulch lynch, off Lalendra.

does this sound scummy? it does to me.

That we follow the same pattern, or that I pointed it out?