Mini Normal 1964 - Hell Is 56k Dialup - Endgame!

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VOTE: everyone else

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VOTE: Transcend

always the optimal play

Who diz

i honestly have nooOOoo ideeEEEeaa

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VOTE: firaga

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zachary what has gotten into u.

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we have like 5 latent policy lynches. where is bins

i'm excited to Get Endgamed and Lose who's with me

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keychain u r scum, hello!

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im pretty sure it's just me

and pretty much everyone else i think ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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cy be a dear and vote firaja with me?

Hmm, tempting.

VOTE: firaja

i c that you were in fact all the way tempted

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o yea sorry for misreading u last game havo

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like literally lmao

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weeEEew i'm reading the game thread at all

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can kind of see havo as feeling himself too much

keychain has a lot of padding

bork bork

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zachary isn't like hard town yet

katy also sort of isn't ultrahard town but she towntells later

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uc voyager are u excited to Hunt Some sCum!

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guys look at me i'm a hyperposter hahahahahahahaha

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prob town

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doggoread go

bork

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vote was, like, weird

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Wow it's been almost a year and a half since my last game here. How's everyone doin'?

VOTE: transcend

VOTE: transcend

he is scum at least 60% of the time

If we're going by this logic, I think this would be a good place to start.

Transcend, can I get a list of previous games so I can verify this myself?

I hate this post

Last two lines are artificial

No offense, but that's like...really bad logic. If you are the only person who feels this way, maybe you should expand?

why would he be offended

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Wave is my strongest tr lol

ya i get this

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keech is there anything u would have transcend do differently

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if u don't get it and other people do that's pretty much ideal!!!

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I failed telepathy in uni tho

wait lmao what

how do you play mafia then

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keech the leech

transcend, have you not been lynched enough times to not play like this?

lmaoooooo

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she can like kind of be town

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youcie is maybe lynchbait but also maybe like super transparent??

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like i have a strong feeling that if town there's some point where he whips out the big guns and we're all like oh

he has mini-done that already sorta

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no arguing allowed

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it's bullshit but i got the impression from shut up and vote 2

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in postgame

lol

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it's bullshit but i got the impression from shut up and vote 2

this makes no since

whatchu gon do bout it

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VOTE: cy the dry pie

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it's bullshit but i got the impression from shut up and vote 2

this makes no since

whatchu gon do bout it

idk. your post made no since

u gonna fite me?? tryna call me out???

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right now i think townhunting = strughunting ufeelme?

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allnighter

read this as asslighter

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i have a HEADACKE

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VOTE: jodaxq

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Spoiler:

Null will be purple since mod color is yellow

Zachstralkita

don't tr yet which is alarming

Dunnstral*

probtown but should prob null read to be safe

Keychain

town

Firaja

town by gut but has really bad posts

Havo

was thinking scum leaning town now

Jodaxq

scum

cytheflyguy

scum

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town

Transcend

d

o

g

g

o

wavemode

gut town

UC Voyager

unsure, prob town

Katyusha

town

Everyone Else

\_O_/

This post in particular bothered me for a while and it didn't hit me earlier today as to why. Transcend's entire game has been about making claims and then never backing it up. People don't really question it either. Looking at this list, his hardest gut town was someone who, as of this post, has posted 5 times, and as of that post, posted once. One time and that's his "gut town", and because of this endorcement, and next to no one questioning Transcend on his reads, wave has easily claimed a role that no one can varrify, and no one (as far as I know) scum reads him. He says things as if they are fact, but in reality, they are gut guess that he cannot defend but treats as facts, which is why when I asked him, he refused to clarify anything. . Like...isn't that questionable logic? Like even more questionable than my original blunder. You can't assume someone is town for lack of scummy post. You have to townread them for things that look like town motivation.

This game is so damn weird and I don't like it...

Both Zack's and Transcend's games have been weird compared to everyone else's (Scadd too, actually). Zack is on the defense and Transcend is on the offensive but both seem to be built on little to no foundation.

Well, that's my two cents before moving to phone for a week thanks to thanksgiving break.

haha do u think transcend is scum or town

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shadd/UCV/transcend? MAybe keychain or zach

I still think Transcend is town but it's wavering.

what is causing the wavering? he is scumreading you and has been statically doing so for kind of a while

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he even shot you chrissakes!

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Itt Zach is talking to a corpse

on theme tbh

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having a wavering townread on you is just weird

like you have been rather consistent in posting and in reads, don't see how her read of you would be changing

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i mean i guess she could be reevaluating lmao. but you usually don't see yourself

about

to reevaluate i think

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this game is everything i wanted and more

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joda wagon is still garbage

do u have a read of her

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townlean from whence!

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dr if i said but i'm ok with keech town

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will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita

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ooh wait no. maybe nsg then

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why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?

how about no

How about you contribute to the game?
You signed up to play....so play.

This post makes it obvious you are lurking.

You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?

You know, play the game.

no me

How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?

how about no

How about you contribute to the game?
You signed up to play....so play.

This post makes it obvious you are lurking.

You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?

You know, play the game.

will try to work on that as soon as possible when im sober and when i have free time.

I might actually believe this if you hadn't been posting quite often in another game at the same time that you've made some of these posts.

why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?

How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?

These are both very good observations

Okay then

Did you think your slot was getting a red or green pm?

oh, i misinterpreted this the first time i read it - are you asking if i replaced in thinking that my slot was town or scum? i honestly don't follow games that i'm just reading as close as games that i'm playing in, so the slot was null for me. that didn't factor into anything, though - i was on the replacement queue and had no idea who i was replacing.

okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.

can someone explain the wagon on the ucv slot to me? i get that he really hasn't done much this game except for a weak push on jodaxq, but i'm not sure that that's especially alignment-indicative enough to warrant a lynch. lynches for "null" behavior like that have always struck me as lazy in the same way as lurker lynches. with that in mind i'm not necessarily saying i'm against it today, just saying that hopefully screenplay can clarify the read there on that slot.

i'm getting a scumlean from jodax, but it's something i'm constantly doubting myself on. the intial motivation for ucv makes total sense to me - ucv wasn't really contributing anything but was clearly in the thread, so that warrants suspicion. at this point, though, i wonder about the motivation behind singling out ucv specifically over other posters who weren't really contributing much or were just lurking it out. the later continuation of the read and the justifications are what leads to the scumread - specifically, i take issue with this:

3. It's not about low contributing, it's about fake contributing. In that same newbie game I hard cased sheepsaysmeep (who was scum) very early on in the game for similar reasons as I'm casing you now. He posted a lot of fake contibution (he always wanted pagetops and asked for reads instead of provided) and I feel like you're doing the same with your asking about meme posting or trying to keep people from insulting one another.

jodax, what makes you read ucv's posts specifically as intentionally fake contributions as opposed to just intentional non-contributions? you're saying that he's attempting to put forward the image of contributing but to me it seems like he never attempted to put forward that pretense.

another thing that grabs my attention is the explanation of ucv's actions in 489. it just doesn't make sense to me: ucv's actions can hardly be considered a serious push and the explanation doesn't explain anything outside of the one post where ucv says he scumreads jodax.

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i wonder how easy this game would be if i took it seriously. lol
i am 100% positive scum want to lynch bait me.

I love how this post precedes your boldest read of the game. So I'm guessing you made this post so if I turn up vanilla civ you can just say you weren't taking it seriously, right? Making sure you cover all your bases is a typical scum move.

finally, this post just exudes someone twisting facts to fit their beliefs and constructing narratives. this is a telltale sign of either a confbiased townie or scum who deliberately has to contrive pushes on people given that they already know everyone's alignment. i'm getting the feeling that it's the latter of the two.

splitting the rest up to avoid a wall for transcend's sake.

the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.

schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?

define: scum!katy

VOTE: joda

Scared of my FOS

Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate


nsg, lol

K I actually have no idea how to read this fucking game

Which is unfortunate considering I'm currently invincible

Still gut feeling that 2 of shadd/Transcend/Keychain are scum. Dunnstral/EE could be scum as well. tinfoil hat theory that Zach is scum

None of these people are wagons so I will start one! VOTE: Transcend

Katy is a knight. Not town. That’s the only thing giving pause about cy/espe but not big enough pause.

bettr not be fucking wagoned rn

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fuck i just porkens'd i knew i was gonna do that

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i was reading and realized halfway through i might be being wagoned and so i said that i bettr not be and it dumped all my multiquotes

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why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?

man i'm like on record somewhere about things that don't need to be questions

it would be back from when i thought any weird wording meant scum but

how about no

How about you contribute to the game?
You signed up to play....so play.

This post makes it obvious you are lurking.

You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?

You know, play the game.

seemed a bit genuine

no me

do u remember what this meant

How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?

what more should i be saying etc.

how about no

How about you contribute to the game?
You signed up to play....so play.

This post makes it obvious you are lurking.

You know, tell us who you think is most likely scum and why?
Who’s most likely town and why?
And who do you think would be the best slot to Lynch today?

You know, play the game.

will try to work on that as soon as possible when im sober and when i have free time.

I might actually believe this if you hadn't been posting quite often in another game at the same time that you've made some of these posts.

eh. good detective work that isn't like under spotlights. i started not scumreading her at this point

why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?

How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?

These are both very good observations

i think there was some angery reason i multiquoted this but i forget

Okay then

Did you think your slot was getting a red or green pm?

oh, i misinterpreted this the first time i read it - are you asking if i replaced in thinking that my slot was town or scum? i honestly don't follow games that i'm just reading as close as games that i'm playing in, so the slot was null for me. that didn't factor into anything, though - i was on the replacement queue and had no idea who i was replacing.

this is goofy, a bit overexplained/details seem odd (read games without having any reads?). i guess you could just say town though? like you don't go through the motions of making up how you read the slot you replaced without making some sort of argument from it if scum

okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.

there was also some weird stuff from this, she feels too eager to play up the thought processes she has. i think that's what lamist is. "something i'm constantly doubting myself on" is odd having been in the game for like 9hr and seemingly not having spent all 9 of them reevaluating. and note that she said she didn't have reads replacing in (i guess, didn't have strong reads replacing in. like 558 might not be categorical)

the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.

this feels like it's starting from the fact that i'm town

define: scum!katy

i think i multiquoted this as a "transc is town"

i was thinking about it for a while because when nsg asked for townreads i considered explaining them uncaught up from memory if i could get all of them in like a few sentences (i was on my phone! in my grandma's living room! and i was like oh shit the prod timer!) but i couldn't think of any good way to do the transcend one because it's like goofy and incoherent. but this is an example of him being interested in something in a way that i liked

VOTE: joda

how confident

Scared of my FOS

well i was surety annoyed

at this point reading i was all hopped up on the idea, like, this dude is like 40 something and sees all the children on mafiascum that get away with just making jabs like that at each other! and so that is how he approaches playing scum! but he is also like kinda consistent in attitude with the micro we played uh a year ago.

anyway i helped your son with his math homework one time and you're not fucking welcome

Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate


nsg, lol

zach and srceen are probably not both scum?

tinfoil hat theory that Zach is scum

did u have like a proper theory or is this just a figure of speech

Katy is a knight. Not town. That’s the only thing giving pause about cy/espe but not big enough pause.

utterly don't remember why i quoted this. it seems maybe salient. i think i thought it was town and i think i still do like 20 minutes later?

Is this believable to people? ^ ^ last two

happy thanksgiving to you too!

I’m not confident enough to defend a town read this early. That town read should be doing it themself. Help me solidify my town read.

I’m sure scum are confident this early on who is town or not.

barf but ok

schadd can i get like a readlist from you because your trajectory feels all over the place to me from a quick iso

VOTE: schadd

i'm gonna do a readlist but it's not because of u

why is trajectory all over the place notable

why vote

I don't have a tell ;-;

u probably do

hey keychain you might not have to write a case at all :/

still trans why vote for ee over schadd?

omg!

i guess i sorta don't know what she expects to get out of this if scum. like >asking transcend to do a thing

will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita

the explanations are the more important part of that equation so i'd still appreciate those, but this is still useful.

yw!

im getting voted on?

i think i quoted this because i thought it was adorable

VOTE: Jodaxq

gut read scummy

Please omg please. Do the fuck something. Cite something. There's even a case on the slot and you go with gut scum. Make a stand.

This feels wifom town so idk, but if you are town put in some effort. This is a real hard game to get anything out of.

didn't like this considering 689. if you told me about this like 6 months ago i would've been like esp and ee are bothscum!!! but especially from later on it seems like that's not the case

VOTE: jodaxq

duuuuuuuuude, no.

Bad vote on a good wagon.

what!

we have like 5 latent policy lynches. where is bins

i'm excited to Get Endgamed and Lose who's with me

I think it might have been this.

Sorry

i forgive you

Can this have SKs?

yes, normal games can have at most one serial killer.

fuuuuk

i saw that and was like "but isn't this 10:3?" but no that's just like every other normal game worth beans

sk hunting is supposed to come from scum i think.

Christ

Play the fucking game you sign up for

It is absolutely miserable for both alignments to have to deal with extreme amounts of replace outs.

Jeez

usually when i see someone rant about someone and include "both alignments" they're usually scum.

didn't you like

replace out

will attend to this later! nsg asked for townreads and explanations and i can give one of those transcend keychain wavemode maybe dunnstral espeonage? did espeonage replace fajita

This post is awful. You say you can only give one of town reads or explanations and you did so what will you attend to later?

see earlier! i was sitting in a family area operating a cellphone with internet. my intent was not to say i chose not to explain townreads but rather didn't really think i would have time to do it effectively at all before moving on to another family activity like eating birthday cake because we also celebrate some birthdays on thanksgiving

the use of "awful" made me like "aw man" also. saying "this post is bad" and "i didn't like this" to mean "looks like scum" is something i do as well but it makes me feel weird to read it. like i'm sorry u didn't enjoy my post

ends in Cum.

me too kid

wait holy SHIT he replaced cy

okay i'm dumb and stupid

and really stupid and dumb and fuck me what the fuck am i doing

this was another "transc is town" i think.

or do you actually have a reason to eliminate the rest of us from your scum pool?

Nope

I'm not going to get much done this game without some flips and VCA. Most of this game has been fluff

this makes me very think town.

VOTE: Espeo

yeah i'm calling bullshit on everything he's done on this slot

i went like "whoa!" out loud because my roommate isn't here. because like i wanted both of them to be scum! : (

VOTE: schadd

Skimmed. This is a dumpster fire and I’m not allowed to complain. I did it to myself

s@me

VOTE: uzi

Ite

I really don't find very much that I like about LUV's posting at all.

do u expect to like things about a given person's posting usually?

Why is Schadd scum?

Katy, your reasoning for voting is Schadd is shit. If you can’t follow his thought process and feel he’s been all over the place, attempt to understand where’s he’s coming and don’t just lazily park. Just voting him without any follow through isn’t going to suddenly make him provide content you not only deem satisfactory, but clear.

do u know who her main is

the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.

schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?

North, could you explain how you ever vote for Schadd after this post. It sounds like you genuinely believe he’s clueless town.

ay!

Clueless town can mean those things but also can mean town who often blindly trust the information that is being presented to them. I thought that is what you were getting at, North.

So because Schadd has not explained his town reads, you think they’re not real. I don’t understand how you can reach that conclusion if he’s not offered an explanation for those reads yet. Also, how does fabricating town reads without offering any explanation for them helps him achieve a scum win-con? All that does is bring an unnecessary amount of attention to himself and doesn’t help him control the game state at all. The opposite of what you believe he is doing, which is buddying to avoid suspicion.

I think your problem with Schadd is that he’s not showing any paranoia. Meaning, there is no fear or suspicion displayed in regards to the players he feels are town. There’s no doubt and that worries you. If so, that’s a fair reason to scum read someone but I find a lack of paranoia is a personality trait.

this feels like a bit better prodding/follow through than boonskiies garbage fire game. idk tho that game made me think the only thing i oughtta trust with susie vert is meta bullshit because there was an item of meta bullshit that made me feel like "no! he can't be town!" and also i didn't pay attention to his prodding/follow through i think so who fucking even knows at all

He vanished

Like he always does in every game he plays

they hated jesus because He told them the truth

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i usually spoiler= those but fuck usually. i'm pleased to have gotten pagetop as well.

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i think town:

transcend, keech, wavemode

more town than the i don't fucking even know pool:

srceenplay, dunnstral, jodaxq (???) (but i think so) (?)

i don't fucking honestly even know:

uzi, havo

like marginally more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking honestly idea pool and she gets her own tier because it feels like a read that 2016 me is very confident in and wrong:

north side gal

there's also like zachary and there's like so much bullshit i'm thinking up about how i would think he would go and i think it's like reasonable that he thinks he has some way to read me that works but he's also like weird and motivated by different things than i would think and seems like he could be agenda/lynch-driven but also like the only (completed) game that i've played with him was trash garbage bullshit and i don't have any idea. like remember last time how i was like "lmao i'm judging zachary from speakeasy" well I'M SOMEWHO NOT FUCKING ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS GAME IS LIKE DIFFERENT AND LESS SMOOTH AND STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN KIDNEY WHICH IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING KIDNEY WAS TRASH GARBAGE BULLSHIT

zachary

like rather more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking clue pool but honestly this game feels like a game where my reads are trash garbage so like whatever honestly fucking and it feels weird to put katy lower than zachary?????? but i think i think that:

espeonage, katy

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i think if u look hard enough there are things that count as explaining reads up there.

keech and katy and dunnstral i think i didn't talk conclusively about. keech is informed by something i can't talk about. katy it's weird and i wanna talk 2 her. dunnstral idk my dude. he is able to dump some stuff into the thread if he's scum and i don't think he would decline to do that if he rolled scum here, maybe unless he's worried that people here would be good @ reading him

VOTE: espeonage but will also just vote with transcend on whoever

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good night! also i change my mind srceen u r in fact welcome for me helping your son at math homework it was fun he's fun to help with math homework

like he's good at communicating what is clear and unclear which is nice when you're used to working with like elementary school kiddos

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bonus analogy because i was unable to sleep because of thinking about mafia: this game is like the part of a sitcom clip show episode where they're like "and these were all the bad things"

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happy birthday transcend. ur father and i are proud of u.

Oh hi schadd! Always lovely to read your posts.

thank u! i try

A few pages ago LUV and schadd were both at L-2 and looked like the only two in the running for a lynch. I think scum would be more likely to find a way to compromise for a schadd lynch so him continually pushing a town read on schadd looks town to me.

do you suppose i am town?

yea i re read the post and i still dont know what sgoing on
schadd why is your read around me centered around my read on you
what is the weird metric im being read on lmaoo
kidney was indeed trash garbage bullshit zachary


u tryn smoke

"why is your read around me centered around my read on you" is another one of those things that should be a statement and not a question. ya, when i'm thinking about stuff that zach did that informs my read of him the way he talks about me is one of the things that stands out. it's a sort of standin for a general issue which is that a lot of your reads / posting style seem convenient, like more aligned with what i think u r good at doing as scum (explaining things! rhetoric!) than what i expect u to gravitate to as town (callouts! a bunch of other foggy things that i'm not sure about exactly because kidney was garbage fire). 962 for example also has a bunch of things that are questions that should just be statements and like trying to explain your way onto the mislynch but also try to seem engagey. which came after my readlist but fukkit it's a good example and the sort of thing i was thinking of.

i don't do drugs.

good night! also i change my mind srceen u r in fact welcome for me helping your son at math homework it was fun he's fun to help with math homework

like he's good at communicating what is clear and unclear which is nice when you're used to working with like elementary school kiddos

I remember him telling me he got help on site chat.
I callled him a wheme.
And
I’m not fucking 40

hey be nice to ur child who is trying to enrich his academic experience.

also soory i tend to assume parents are like around 25 years older than a given child but i understand that does not represent all family situations

So I don't think I actually buy this. or the following post. I think it's forced.
For one I definitely don't buy that you scumread Katy. What the hell? I don't think you bought it yourself. You manage to fence sit and not at the same time on like all of these.

The trend of towning Dunn for no reason is bullshit. As one of like the main events of this, how is Uzi in the null pile? You only mention him once in your catch up and it's the post where he mentions his read on you. I could be reaching but it's like you engaged with what gave you an in.
Like for your read on me it's basically talking about my read on you which, for most of the game (while you weren't here) it was put to the side.

i

am

fence sitting, thanks for noticing! it's like, if u want to scumread me you have the choice of doing it because you think my reads are bad or because you think they aren't confident enough

these are dominantly what i think about the game, there are just macro things that make me feel like i have large potential to be dumb and wrong

for example i do somewhat confidently scumread katy. sorta the same reason as you, engagement feels weird. she isn't trying to talk to me which is natural for her and was the last time we played together. i would link but alt. it would kind of make sense if she genuinely really really thought i was scum but like. i was scum in the game i just mentioned. i don't think i gave enough reason from the wall / list to make an assumption as to whether i was confident about the read other than that i said it felt weird. i didn't talk about the substance of it.

what i said with dunn is what i'm thinking about him, it's not no reason. he tends to be pretty active as both alignments iirc and it makes more sense to me that he would underperform as town than scum.

i don't see why it's weird that little mention of uzi makes him null. that sounds intuitive to me. i also don't think it's true that he wasn't mentioned much? there was some stuff from ee i pointed out. like, ee is contentless and uzi is good at scum. so like. that is null.

i am flattered you suggested i am scum that is trying to engage lmao

I hate minis

I won't sub tho

so like i kind of hate minis also but i reaally don't like larges i think so maybe mafia just sux

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Gotta Go to Lecture

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Like Dunn, you only engaging with what's given to you directly is scummy as hell. You're doing this with me and while you mention your reads being convenient yours are literally even more convenientest.

925 974?

i don't remember dunn engaging with anything

I see the thing you're going for here but
You'd have to paint a clearer picture of what you perceive my scumgame as
Substance like wrt to other things I've done that don't involve me pushing you would look a lotttt better than what you're doing currently does

so like there's 386 which is just a tallpost that i found indiscriminately as an example (and if you want me to talk about how a specific other post factors into the thought that is also helpful)

at face value it's just a regular tallpost, goes through a bunch of things and talks sorta nuts and bolts about your reasons for thinking things. this is something that like a striking number of people, especially the 2016 crowd is good at faking - like uzi, katy, probably transc if he did that as town, probably me if playing scum didn't make my life force evaporate, and probably you since people talk about your rhetorical style and stuff as scum. but like i kind of also expect all of us except like katy to not bother with it as town. like uzi town is often just like "lmao" "lmao ur wrong" from what i remember. because it stops being interesting to like talk about the game and stuff after a while unless you're scum and faking it. and this is like foggy and not always true and leaves me at the point where i can only really just say "idk zach's posts are like kind of not what i expect them to be"

meta reading me as a rule is terrible. It makes sense that your bar for reading me like that would be that sole experience but I expect town you to know that I'm a wild card.

i mean meta is how i think of everyone like always. you can see me meta read people i haven't played with or read any games of oftentimes.

i guess you could within reason expect me to think of you as a wild card. i mean at the same time the only* thing i played with you was a d1 in a large that i half paid attention to. and like speakeasy posting. and stuff. from this game alone i wouldn't suppose you're a wild card, because of the nuts and boltsy stuff i mentioned.

do you not take issue with katy saying she has a tell on you?

yeah, It reads like you're leaving yourself a lot of room to have literally any progression you want is what I meant. Katy - Being that she's one of the most obvtowniest people ever you not doing the same is super hard ping. Oh, and also happens to have been pushing you. Just saying. This isn't that far fetched. Even in the same post you doubtcast that she actually scumreads you..

927 is what i think. when you say i'm open to having any progression i want what about this makes it different from other people? like you're saying i'm plotting this readlist such that it seems easy to change at convenience? but how do i do that? i don't really change my mind as town very often.

i mean i disagree that katy is obvtown. you disagree that transc is obvtown. etc etc.

i think that she would be less likely to scumread me as town, like, at all.

What did Dunn actually do that's of substance? Like what did he provide that wasn't prod dodging or engagement for engagement's sake? The question doesn't have an answer. You can't give me one. It's just no one really cares. Also his allure says "let me not do shit" and that's basically what happens.

He's not underperforming here. There's literally no performance. That's the big thing.

i mean he's voting people. his reads kind of align with mine. i don't posit that he's doing anything else of substance, rather that him being town doesn't unilaterally imply that he would be substantial. do you suppose it does?

Uzi's been the primary wagon like the focus so I would expect you to have something to say about any...anything about it really.. so you shouldn't really be confused at that point. It explains itself. Good at scum or not he's still given a lot of AI stuff to interact with or divine anything from. EE was EE.

uzi being a big wagon (which he's also like not at the moment) doesn't impact me having thoughts about him. i say what i have thoughts on. good at scum makes his things less alignment indicative, like considering He Got Me! last game. i rather thought he was town and was wrong. so i am in turn less likely to think of the stuff i think about him as salient. like my thoughts on him are:
-content seems gut good. which it did last game. but it's like different than last game? but like i have blocked out a lot of stuff from last game as well.
-he hasn't been lmaoing as much. that might be bullshit.
cool we landed at null. wow! even though he is a big wagon!

hey i like barely read but where the fuck did schadd's scumread of me come from

actually where in general did it come from

from thoughts, and sensations

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schadd what do you want to talk about? at this point i dont really know how to make myself active and useful and im lacking the drive to do so here which is bad but i just desperately need a starting point this game and i'm lacking it

fucken i dunno dude.

who do u townread rn

what are you worried about

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ooh wait why do u think me scumreading u means u r wrong about things exactly

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Eating Lanch

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i mean dinner

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what do y'all think about nsg

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ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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it's like, if u want to scumread me you have the choice of doing it because you think my reads are bad or because you think they aren't confident enough

This is like the center of your entire read on me which isn't really a problem it's just you're going about it with certainty that you shouldn't have and I can't see to what end.

how did i know

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paperback writer also

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if dunn is scum he was like distanced as hell

zach pushed him he pushed esp at eod

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i kind of like don't tr havo still but that's just me

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i think we have 0% chance of losing if there isn't sk?

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ya

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I mean i still kinda want joda

Can someone town case her?

549 735 idk

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kinda not like intensely strong looking back but not like top of lynchlist for me

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other folks should talk

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good christ zachary being scum and dead is so liberating. i was just gonna go through all the things from the last wall and be like

You're High.

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VT

Scum are in {Dunn, Katyusha, Keychain, Havo, Transcend}

Night guys

Um pal

yeah this is like lmao/10

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>=2 joda votes?

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to what end

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That would be a first for me

Although me and rb (mostly rb) hard carried a town in large normal and won d3

not for me! uh wait do micros count

schadd whats your stance on almond milk

i had unsweetened kind but it kind of tasted like plantchalk. and it seemed like it wasn't like healthier than regular but it is probably veganer. it's like an unsettling roadblock to vegan gay space communism.

transc confirmed not sk is handy tbh.

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VOTE: northsidegale

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meergh, murgh

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subtle nutty flavor

me too kid.

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north side dad.

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idk my chakras tend to be music-dependent.

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Everyone and their dog town reads joda for no fucking good reason at all so fuck it

this is the townscend i'm used to

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idk i don't think almond milk is for me

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you weren't!

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like are you saying we should lynch you last instead of first!

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Tell me more about how I'm scum because I'm a lurker Katyusha

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lmao

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joda what is ur goal right now

what are some things you're worried about that would make us not win

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VOTE: katyusha

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the only thing that keeps me from driving this town

mislynch, wrong vig, into the endgame right now

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DO I CARE IF I GET NIGHTKILLED

IT'S PROBABLY A TOWN WIN I KNOW

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in a list of like 6 obvtowns

how do i deal with zach's ghost?

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should i fakeclaim sk now?

every read i make, is nsg somehow

should i treestump myself now?

every vote i make, is nsg somehow

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VOTE: katyusha

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.

..

it is a culinary equivalent of milk that is produced without animal cruelty

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katyusha do u know what the significance of sufjan stevens' 2015 album

carrie and lowell

is here

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are u sure

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the sheer four word string "sufjan stevens being irrelevant" made me upset so thanks,

pedit

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am i right that we should decide on who the vig hits

like if they don't shoot the item of joda/nsg that we don't lynch they are confirmed sk

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brORK

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yeah uzi is maybe probably town i thinks.

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lmao what

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THAT'S ALL WE NEEDED TO HEAR BOYS

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yeah nsg would be pretty ideal 2 shoot imo

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^

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uhh

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i think it's havo

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feel bad about not hard towning joda

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that's quick maths

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yeah havo is like scmu?

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so like there are two claims that are false

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thanks pal.

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can katy and i claim at the same time at the end

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srceenplay please hardclaim in your next post or get instaynched

good impression

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^

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i'm tracker

uzi didn't visit / dunn didn't visit

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yup

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VOTE: dunn

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This isn't a reaction test or anything, schadd?

nope

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yeah havo is like scmu?

so like there are two claims that are false

Can you explain both of these posts schadd

i was thinking havo was scmu and my results conflicted with transcend and dunn's claims

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^

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also nice shot katy

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you have a gif u could have used dearest.

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i mean i was just thinking of the beyonce one

pedit

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ugh that reminds me i wish i knew who ur main was :( :(

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i think the only trackery thing i did was 1397

(was making sure track/vig wasn't redundant)

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oops guys i looked back at my results and dunn visited srceen :( shucks oops

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that was a lie oops

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lmao what

so he just... holstered

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yeah this list was gonna be a town win every time.

espeonage scum felt too good to be true but t o w n c o h e s i o n

10/10 flavor

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he can only use one action per night

though yeah dunn why didnt you use your rb on srceen...?

ya i meant like holstered the block

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but yeah i've kind of been literally lmaoing my ass of for like most of a month?

also sorry for not believing u about dunn zachary

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it was very coherent

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Dunn + Zach as scum = roflstomp

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Can we talk about how schadd thinks the game has a Cop, Tracker, Vig and Motion Detector with two goons flipped.

schadd should be stringing trans up rn.

d2 i wasn't really thinking about it but it seemed reasonable that there was an SK and/or that transc was just lying. also potentially roleblocksmanship or ninja or whatev

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also cop was 2-shot, for all i knew vig was 1-shot, etc.

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schadd if he is smart would be tracking Trans to confirm the claim.

i could also just track scum????

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i mean wave was realclaiming

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er, 2-shot to 1-shot i guess

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I don't think there's any way scum pulls this off now unless Schadd sits down and does the smart thing (check Transcend) which would actually be the stupid thing

you guys

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it literally didn't even cross my mind. transc was hardtown by play anyway.

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Also let's talk about how Transcend is going to probably get himself lynched if he keeps going with this claim because Schadd knows he moved last night and Dunnstral didn't.

you're way more of a mafia puritan than i would have expected my dude

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oh paint mafia is over

that was how i was reading keech & zach

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key player

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ya i had the joda or nsg thing because i figured nsg was scum and didn't think about it

and joda as the secondary because it seemed like people were hellbent on lynching her and you might as well

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keech was like transparent nicetown and i probably could have gotten that without paint mafia

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schadd and i would expect town!you to fakeclaim here

this is true

is it bad that i'd like a massclaim bc if theres a protective theyre probably not in the clears

or do we resolve that tomorrow

even night jailkeeper I targeted Srceenplay

Waveplay's claim has me squinting my eyes btw, 2 shot bp in a 13 player game? And why is he self aware?

tbh this should have tipped me off early dunn was lying

no reason to make other scumreads when you have a very reliable guilty

ya he did a lot of that e.g. shading u for no reason

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you have given m e the blueprint schad

ya lmao

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I wouldn't do it with some rando

you say that.

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