Mini Normal 1964 - Hell Is 56k Dialup - Endgame!

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VOTE: schadd

Boi.

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I forgot to say AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Ok I got some shit to say Ima hit this when I get back.

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Katyusha.

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Your posts are giving me this vibe

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It's definitely to do with your aura...







Also Havo do me a favor and make your first vote in this game schadd.

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tentative scumread on UC Voyager
If it weren't for cys first post I'd be voting there tho tbh

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you dont think firaga's scummy?

Observing that interaction
Which is why I should step out after this post

zachary what has gotten into u.

The lord spirit



@Keychain I mean.. um.. you could have started by voting with me

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Is every single player in this game an alt

I'm still trying to process this one

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Btw on the table not to detraxt from the main course... but did Keychain roll mafia

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Is there anything else that particularly strikes you to comment on atm


I would
Like to know

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Transcend

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Is there anything else that particularly strikes you to comment on atm


I would
Like to know

Yup. I don't understand Katyusha's scumread on Firaja because she's given no reason for it apart from disagreeing with him, and it looks like she mixed up Jodaxq and Firaja in 68 or else I just didn't understand that last comment at all. Also schadd's posts are works of art but I don't know what I think about them alignment wise yet.

Were you asking after something in particular?

Ya it feels like to me first impression; you spent your time expanding on a cy scumread that wasnt that great to begin with :////


Im aware Im townreading him for a reason you might not be looking at but
Well, it's actually a reason that you've acknowledged in 83
Post 68 from Katyusha is a good point but apparently it's not enough to impact your read on cy in any noticable way?
It's sort of pinging me.

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Wow it's been almost a year and a half since my last game here. How's everyone doin'?

I didnt vote him initially cause his content and approach makes perfect sense given this statement imo

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#STOPSNITCHING

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schadd can you do me a favor and act town or something so i dont keep ignoring the Keyscum situation

let dunnstral take over once i hit submit

well fuck you too

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havo
transcend
firaja

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VOTE: Keychain

god damn it

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I can't read 100 and 110 and not scumread u

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what do you think scum should like to do in RVS, firaja?

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I asked cause
your post has a lot of words but in 144 the merit of your town reads on cy/Katy basically amounts to "they're scumhunting/solving"
Am I wrong
So it makes me wonder what you actually think scum would be doing.... or trying to give the impression of
Cause that post doesn't seem like it comes from town



Also your UC Voyager read is actually boggling and I didnt like his posts that much either
townread cy and Katy for adding game content but scumread UC Voyager for distracting the game
When that interaction actually was the start of advancing the game
Whether he's scum or town it was really clear the impression was joke-y
What was being distracted from tho



In the span of the posts you're referring to what happened in order was
- you talk about uc / cy interaction
-Katy pushes you
-Katy pushes you
- Keychain scums it up

Am I high? Im not high

Scum

Keychain
Firaja
Dunnstral
Jodaxq
schadd(lmao)

If Uc is mafia here I think he'd be with Firaja

Fwm

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YEA I'm on that early game shit

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Dunnstral literally has one post. How are you SRing him?

HE DUCKING THIS SMOKE

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i have problems with your cy progression basically
but im conflicted about a thing rn

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listen Ik im a little hyper but this shit is too quiet some of you motherfuckers are up to some shady activities

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do you think i should die transcend

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Im reinventing myself bro
Your lack of vote atm is a little icky tho

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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actually. i think i will stick arund!

What are your reads

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i have problems with your cy progression basically
but im conflicted about a thing rn

Is this a thing you're planning to share with the class?

No Key Chain it actually is not thanks

VOTE: Dunnstral

_badvote_

Let me work.

pedit that has nothing to do with anything

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Why is mariaR wearing a ushanka

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Holy

boi

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I'm gonna go back in my foxhole and when I come out things are going to make sense
Btw transc Im not fucking with ur havo read atall




VOTE: Schadd

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No Key Chain it actually is not thanks

You don't have to be aggro Keychain will remember this though.
Can you explain your schadd scumread?

schadd is obvious town
when hes not
hes scum

also concerned if transend is finessing atm

I feel like a lot of Cy's post are really forced and he's saying a lot of words without saying much of anything.

so What does Firaja do then

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Why townread keychain
And whats ur Havo meta

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my havo meta is i have 0 completed games with him

the read is ass buddy


also keychain cant be read with vibes most likely
that cy push was wonky regardless how you feel about cy

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[x] Applesauce

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transcend what's wrong darling
is it cause i didn't buy you dessert that one time

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Im on Schadd btw

This man said Dunnstral dead null


he hasnt said SHIT

pedit the post after that was worse imo

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I get the impression Joda should have more to comment on

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i need something a bit more than "schadd isn't obvtown" to be parsed by the lynch

Yall love to ask me this shit for people that post weird and not content-heavy


the way hes entering into the thread
the posts you can get info from it looks like he's just setting up stances
And not much else cause he'll get townread for doing his "thing"

keychain u r scum, hello!

can kind of see havo as feeling himself too much

keychain has a lot of padding

bork bork

I didnt read this well where hes like agreeing with my kc read but didn't push there for x reason
It's for that reason that I don't think he actually believes that read

Anyways I was like "maybe I need more conten" then I let the thread breathe and nothing happens besides the same people being scummy

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I scumread Dunestral.
Ur boy Transcend is the one giving out townreads

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He kinda does that tho

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Do you scumread Transcend?

pedit u dont like any of his posts but hes town?

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@Zach

Also your UC Voyager read is actually boggling and I didnt like his posts that much either
townread cy and Katy for adding game content but scumread UC Voyager for distracting the game
When that interaction actually was the start of advancing the game
Whether he's scum or town it was really clear the impression was joke-y
What was being distracted from tho

There doesn't need to be something being distracted from for something to be distracting.

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Firaja the rest of that paragraph actually doesnt make sense
Every interaction provides information the way it is?
Uc didn't undo anything
So scumreading him by that metric is ???


that's an awful convenient read keychain
I was saying you employ logic when you're scum so reading you with -vibez- is bad

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No

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VOTE: Jodaxq

gut read scummy

schadd lite has arrived

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Cy if transcends posts bother u what is your read on me

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The second part of my comment was not an idle question. I left the door open for you to tell me why I shouldn't be scumreading you. You responded by trying to scare me off with how my scumread of you

looks

, but gave me no reason why it's

wrong

.

I said why I scumread schadd, I don't know why you scumread me so I assumed it's cause I'm lynching you? I feel the evil, Keychain. I feel it in the pit of my soul.

Null will be purple since mod color is yellow

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don't tr yet which is alarming

Dunnstral*

probtown but should prob null read to be safe

Keychain

town

Firaja

town by gut but has really bad posts

Havo

was thinking scum leaning town now

Jodaxq

scum

cytheflyguy

scum

schadd_

town

Transcend

d

o

g

g

o

wavemode

gut town

UC Voyager

unsure, prob town

Katyusha

town

Everyone Else

\_O_/

Did you import this reads list from Carcalilly
LMFAO

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his posts don't feel genuine to me. However, when I went back through I couldn't pinpoint a particular post or really articulate why I felt the way I did, so I decided it was best to leave it be until something more significant draws me a particular way on him.

Im not saying exactly nothing though so there has to be at least one not-vague thing you can say unless you just made the read up

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i want to electrocute my self

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it's not lik e i havent been thrown for a loop by the fact that schadd is actually posting its just not likely to mean a whole lot if he tried hard to play scum i feel like

but fuck it

Keychain = Dunnstral > Firaja > Joda > EE

is where I'd lynch

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my throat is numb

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if uc voyage is mafia he doesthe best lynchbait impression ive ever seen

I don't think you're understanding my point, so I will try and explain it a different way.
The reason I find UCV scummy is he seemed like he was trying to peg Transcend as Scum using "meta"/probabilities, which in my opinion isn't a valid reason, he let cy start a conversation about it, spanning a fair few posts, before saying it was "just a joke", derailing what had happened. This is scummy to me, because if he was joking the entire time, why did UCV let it escalate? That is what I mean by distracting and "undoing" what had happened, however I guess I explained that badly. Am I missing anything else out here?

ya it seems like you think the discussion became worthless after he said he was joking (which was the clear impression)
like peoples reactions dont matter
like you.......didnt value sorting them

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So when you're a town PR (who was outed and therefore roleblocked every night) you come right out and scum hunt openly, but when you're a vanilla civ you don't?

Does this look a little like rolefishing to anyone else...? Or am I overthinking it?

VOTE: Firaja

i c what's going on heree now

Is Transcend a scumfuck? Find out on the next episode of Blues Clues

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When did I go from Cy to UCV? I made a comment that I agreed that the early interaction between Cy and UCV looked more bad towards Cy. Since that point Cy has responded adequately and I buy his excuse about being out-of-practice. UCV has just posted a bunch of filler posts and I know he's been playing a lot of mafia recently.
The joke seemed obvious to me but I guess not. It was just an immature "oh you don't like me? Well I don't like you!"

Reading your ISO - posts 66, 67, 104 are all cy-negative, the first two were either furthering my push or agreeing with it via direct quotes and the last one repeated a point I had made in 100. I notice when people agree with me.
Plus 213, where you voted UCV. After I did in 209, after dropping cy. Maybe I'm seeing things because ego.

VOTE: Jodaxq

Why do you think that being out of practice is a reasonable explanation for cy's actions? Like can you go into more detail?

K E Y C H A I N

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That isn't what I'm saying... I didn't say the discussion became worthless, I'm saying that it went on for longer than it should have and It can be seen as an attempt to look like they were scumhunting when they weren't, which is why I found the exchange scummy, but now that cy went from that and is actually scumhunting, while UCV still isn't is why moving on from that exchange is suspect UCV.

yea but the thing is I don't believe that you can actually believe this at this point
Attributing like motivation to UC's actions here is a super big reach
he hasn't been contributing but he seems very carefree etc also he may have dumbtold

reason you're probably scum over joda atm is cause joda has an actual town reason to have reasonably suspected UC Voyager

Also joda's reactions have actually been rather consistent throughout

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joda pov of town who is sorta fazed by the amount of static in this game is more believable
scum wouldn't really be afraid of such an atmosphere

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which of my reads changed?

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wat

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what crowd would i be playing to lol

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if it wasnt clear before i was reallt asking joda why i'd be lynch shopping as scum with plurality
assuming even two of these wagons could be town makes it not hard to just idle on a wagon...

Its probably why we're not seeing that much of a consisent pace here

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in 284 you blame me for not telling you why a read is wrong when i don't know why you had the read
then you say its not relevant LMAO

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town

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I feel as if you're trying to correlate me saying you can't be read with " vibes" with how you read me
as if the two are at all related

does a working definition for vibes need to be established

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Would you prefer if I made a case on why I think you're scum?

is this real life

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Translateion : case me please

and Id like one order of "Why r u acting like I don't have a Firaja scumread"




jesus christ
KATYUSHA


I NEED HELP

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HAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I'll respond to that later but you have a few outdated points

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Translateion : case me please

and Id like one order of "Why r u acting like I don't have a Firaja scumread"

You can't ask me to case you and then beg for help!

The first time I said I thought you might be scum was in 259. Reasons for that weren't that strong. Your read on me was fine but saying you have an idea of how to read me felt more like discrediting Transcend's townread than anything else. Your schadd read was always empty. 174 was defensive and 181 was a weird retreat.

It only benefits scum to attach weird ass angles to my motivations. Transcend's townread on you was basically gut at that point so there wasn't a lot to discredit. Why would I be discrediting a read rather than talking about one? Oh it's cause I happen to be doubtcasting you. schadd's posting is generally always empty but that read does suck atm. Your interpretations of my posts are hilarious. Why would I want to h- nevermind

I was more interested in how you'd react to my read, and you were focused on it being "convenient", which is like... no, it's not, as scum I really wouldn't want to get into a 1v1 with you. Like I said it didn't seem like you cared that it was wrong, which it would be if you were town. I guess that's believable if you were sure I'm scum, but not liking my cy progression is pretty sparse for being that sure.

Also if your reason for scumreading me is my cy progression, I'd have expected you to comment during the course of this conversation on that zigzag I just did, but nothing.

convenient because it materialized in mention after I began pushing you
what part of that is hard
also i don't like, really anything you've done

You've been hopping from mislynch to mislynch cause scum are driving lynches
I don't take you guys seriously because you're lynching on obvtown so no I'm not really considering your "progressions" if I think they could all be faked


The Uc Voyager wagon got abandoned by scum cause the day wouldn't go on without that being revealed blatant mislynch
Rest of the slots are more "yea ok" in terms of lynchability so where does scum sit? on a lynch they can be safe with


joda may have been spooky at times but her reaction to pressure isn't really scum at all and not realizing it going forward means you're probably doing it on purpose

I know you have a scumread on Firaja, I saw it and asked about it about part of it thirty seconds ago in 368 but you didn't answer. Your read on him is a point in favour of you being town. 346 is probably the strongest part of that read. Are you voting there because it's where you think you'll get the strongest support or because it's your strongest scumread?

No one here will lynch with me cause scum are manipulating the wagons
Firaja is mafia yes

You had Jo listed as a possible lynch in 334 but then seem to defend her shortly after in 350 and 351.

that sequence of posts basically says "this is why firaja is scum and joda is more likely town here"

and you still pose this like you're trying to id dissonance

You've been maintaining suspicion of Transcend, which I would be super keen to hear about, but nothing further than that. And you had EE as a potential lynch, is that for lurking? Where did your schadd scumread go?

transcend might be pushing Mls and giving out trs like candy, maybe with you, possibly with schadd, I'm not thinking about any thing until we get a flip, I'm not moving my vote cause Firaja's probably mafia
Firaja has been sitting on one for ages

i disregard the schadd read because no one's going to lynch him but there's probably more likely mafia who are actually pro-scumming this game rather than just fluff

Sorry for not being invested. I will try.

Same, give me a bit

daily reminder that this is somehow still alive??

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i hate u cy

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i hate u cy

please don't just insult someone like that. it isn't necessary and makes no since

i love you cy






yo 80 and 140 aren't reads lists. Lol. Did i scumread cy? I don't think I did.

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Zach

defensive

I don't see a problem here officer


pedit I was trying to get my senpai Transcend's attention ofc. 140 is people I wanted to post more at the time.

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<--- look at my face

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@joda yeah bro.

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I read all of wavemode posts in Mickey Mouse voice it has brought great enjoyment to my life

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@joda yeah bro.

So why didn't you want to hear from Dunnstral, wavemode, or Everyone Else at the time?

Mind you i'm more specifically contesting that you can't tell me what I wrote is or isn't a read list lol
i don't really care about explaining my "then" reads... altho i will say there was a period where i forgot ee was in the game
As for dunnstral i fuly expected town!him to enter this game active so hes prolly scum lmao

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the day i believe you day vig anyone

lmfao

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LMAOOOOOOOOO

You asked me directly to tell you when I thought your reads changed lol

Yeah and you happened to say some stuff was reads when they werent. It's ok! . The devil is a lie!

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LMAOOOOOOOOO

You asked me directly to tell you when I thought your reads changed lol

Yeah and you happened to say some stuff was reads when they werent. It's ok! . The devil is a lie!

And how were we supposed to know that without questioning? You are acting hella paranoid here.

well you know now




L2 btw lol this game is hilarioua

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can we lynch the mafia guys as oppose to these bum ass wagons

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his uc voyager push does not make sense form a townie perspectice
that whole whaon is dumb too

And I know what he said like i actuallt parsed it

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can we lynch the mafia guys as oppose to these bum ass wagons

Please convince me that UC Voyager is not scum

what is his agenda as scum that's being played out here?

Spoiler: @Katyusha

BUGS AT THE BARBECUE... I LET SOMETHING FLY IN HIS RIBS

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whomst've

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Umm r u hi

Burden of proof is on you to prove your Sr

It's also a simple question :/ what the hell is he doing besides not establishing any stances , not caring and to what end?
Is he really the best place for a vote

Questions have answered themselves to me alreadt which is why I asked you.. why is the lynchbait scum and not lynchbait?

doesn't uc voyager remind anyone of dunkerdoodles

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U guys can't be deadass lol this is not flipping scum

town and scum

we should no lynch every day

then mafia, you no kill every night, then see how many days we can get in before the mod gets mad and tells us to kill people!

JK, lets not do that, i wan't to join a game to do that one day, but i don't think this one, i really like the flavor in the vote counts

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Keychain can I get an update on your jodaxq read

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i



W

What

Lmao you're killing me man

Am i even a real person

what is unreasonable to ask you how someone's actions fit in with the game state for x alignment?? Literallt asking you to analyze the game lol



Firaja is Coasting Done Right™, on a mislynch in a way that won't draw attention
Remember? Plurality etc
The main wagon is you lol

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Joda there's a scenario I'd like you to run through.

Transcend, UC Voyager, Katyusha and I are tied to a set of train tracks. Naturally, there is a train approaching.
Havo , schadd, Dunnstral, and Firaja are tied up on an adjacent rail. Pulling a lever will divert the train onto this rail.
Do you pull the lever? Y/N

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as you just said you answered the question that was unfair
Was it really unfair lol
It's a pretty typical question

firaja has only done one major thing (push ucv) and the rest of his stuff is non committal
What I said was pretty fine
his motivation for (pushing a mislynch) is self explanatory

his motivation for pushing uc exactly is because Uc isn't a hard target
he probably chose ucv cause assuming and ucv are both town you can easily appear to be scumhunting by pushing based off of that interaction
which is why his (real) entrance to the game was focused on cy;uc, progresses into the uc push
hangs out there
doesn't attract lot of pressure





Side note 133 is still best post in the game

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The scum motivation for UCV's actions are to mislynch me. He chose me because I was the other significant wagon.

your wagon was driven by scum y/n

Hey buddy who's scum

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The scum motivation for UCV's actions are to mislynch me. He chose me because I was the other significant wagon.

your wagon was driven by scum y/n

I still don't think Transcend is scum and same with Keychain so I'd say no. Dunnstral still could be but my gut says no there also.

O_O

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all lies ^

this slot

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WHy did u leave havo :/


i'd vote ee/Dunn


Hey why is cy scum besides that he posts like thomas the tank engine
You scumfuck

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you god forsaken commies

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Joda what I don't get is why you sr Firaja but prefer to vote UC

Uc voyager as scum doesn't get to day 3 playing like this

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did you just react to your own post my guy...

zaqq

U roled scum ya

WHy did u leave havo :/


i'd vote ee/Dunn


Hey why is cy scum besides that he posts like thomas the tank engine
You scumfuck

Are you talking about my vote?

Yep broke my heart
Thats a good wagon tho

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hi northside, you got a scumslot champ

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It's Happened.

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TFW U WRITE A POST JUST TO GET LOCKED OUT WELL GEE THANKS ISN'T THAT FUCKING DANDY

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I see, okay.

Let's lynch cy

Sure. I'd also be good with EE and Zach as of right now. There's a couple people "supporting" the EE wagon but not voting him which makes me want to push that, but Cy is probably scum.

Yeah It's Really Nonsensical For Me To Be Voting My #1 Scumread Right Now When EE Can Literally Die At Any Time... Plurality Bro
There Is Definitely Evaluating To B Done Tho

@Zach: I feel like a lot of your scumread on Firaja is scumreading inexperience, and it makes you maintaining a townread on Joda seem really awkward in comparison.

I Scumread Firaja For His UC Push That Doesn't Make Sense At All. If He Were Actually Sorting That Interaction I Believe He'd Have Found Cy Scummier Objectively But He Was Probably Just Looking To Push The Lynchbait
I Never Considered Firaja Inexperienced After I Read He Had Another Account Before.

Also

You've been hopping from mislynch to mislynch cause scum are driving lynches

if it wasnt clear before i was reallt asking joda why i'd be lynch shopping as scum with plurality
assuming even two of these wagons could be town makes it not hard to just idle on a wagon...

...how does lynch hopping make me scum and you town
.

Your Two Main Pushes Are Town

the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.

schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?

It Seems Like You Care More About His Townreads Than His Scum Reads Here? Also Have You Avoided Expressing A Read On Me? I've Pushed You The Most At This Point.

okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.

can someone explain the wagon on the ucv slot to me? i get that he really hasn't done much this game except for a weak push on jodaxq, but i'm not sure that that's especially alignment-indicative enough to warrant a lynch. lynches for "null" behavior like that have always struck me as lazy in the same way as lurker lynches. with that in mind i'm not necessarily saying i'm against it today, just saying that hopefully screenplay can clarify the read there on that slot.

There's Not That Much To Clarify Lol. It Doesn't Really Warrant A Lynch More than EE or Dunnstral Who Are Both Better Choices In The Same Category.

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i wonder how easy this game would be if i took it seriously. lol
i am 100% positive scum want to lynch bait me.

I love how this post precedes your boldest read of the game. So I'm guessing you made this post so if I turn up vanilla civ you can just say you weren't taking it seriously, right? Making sure you cover all your bases is a typical scum move.

finally, this post just exudes someone twisting facts to fit their beliefs and constructing narratives. this is a telltale sign of either a confbiased townie or scum who deliberately has to contrive pushes on people given that they already know everyone's alignment. i'm getting the feeling that it's the latter of the two.

Explain More On This One Here?

another thing that grabs my attention is the explanation of ucv's actions in 489. it just doesn't make sense to me: ucv's actions can hardly be considered a serious push and the explanation doesn't explain anything outside of the one post where ucv says he scumreads jodax.

At The Time Joda Was A Main Wagon And UC Was Present On Her Vote. Plurality Lynch Can Favor Scum Heavily Or It Can Favor Town Heavily With A Bloc. The Situation Makes Complete Sense Tho And This Specific Instance Makes It Appear As If You're Trying To Present Otherwise.

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The Bait Is Set Btw

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The Sub Tweets Are Real
But Our Eyes Aren't Real

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Vision Is 20/20 Six Eyes Like Mississippi

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I'm probably



VOTE: EE

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Screenplay our reads are sort of similar ish
Schadd probably won't happen today and is not the besr cnadidate


nsg, lol

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Id bet money Espe has a town slot lol

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VOTE: Transcend

THE DREAM. FOH.

Id bet money Espe has a town slot lol

I disagree but we'll see. You getting that read from Espeon or Cy?

Espeon For sure lmao.

Why didn't you do this when I was voting him?

A lot of people are scums

Dunnstral

Dayvig

I can't read 100 and 110 and not scumread u

I stg, you better explain this.

this is going to be entertaining

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it's time to get muzzled, transcend

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what actually sucks is katy is obvtown but MIA
thats why this game feels empty
and vacant
like my soul

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I don't have a tell ;-;

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Sort of meming tho tbh

VOTE: EE

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The dog is too swingy of a read atm but I have like 19 srs so

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Lol

*Why EE

I can't say his posts aren't doing shit because they are, he's aware when he enters the game, they're just deliberately not doing nothing which is pretty scummy
Same with Dunnstral

schadd is also a non entity but he's also wavy so I'm fine with having my read be dynamic there
schadd is more or less doing the same thing he was doing the whole game he's just not posting him now which is why katyusha kind of confuses me

I have unfortunately been delaying getting into this game

this is all he's said lmao

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when the molly too strong

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hey keychain you might not have to write a case at all :/

how is espe not town


now keep in mind having shit reads is not ai LMAOOOO

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mfw 693

literally, my face when

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so what made you choose ee over dunnstral?

i don't put priority on scum
but the outside possibility exists that dunnstral is just being a fuck nugget. which is something that's actually liable to have happened


i dont care tho id vote either way

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ok hold the fuck up this is not no compromise lynch

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Christ

Play the fucking game you sign up for

It is absolutely miserable for both alignments to have to deal with extreme amounts of replace outs.

Jeez

usually when i see someone rant about someone and include "both alignments" they're usually scum.

ewwwwwwwwwwwww

More votes pleas

so what made you choose ee over dunnstral?

i don't put priority on scum
but the outside possibility exists that dunnstral is just being a fuck nugget. which is something that's actually liable to have happened


i dont care tho id vote either way

Oh my goodness I understood literally zero sentences of this post. Can someone translate?

LMFAOOOOO

I don’t care.
You don’t go calling people out and pr hunt/announce.

Go swing from a tree.

I just realised this is in relation to your slot. Now I am left wondering, why are you angry about it. And really a callout of VT really only stops a different claim without proof.

You know who does those.

It starts with S and ends in Cum.

Um what , bro dumbtold I'm pretty sure?

I don’t care.
You don’t go calling people out and pr hunt/announce.

Go swing from a tree.

I just realised this is in relation to your slot. Now I am left wondering, why are you angry about it. And really a callout of VT really only stops a different claim without proof.

You know who does those.

It starts with S and ends in Cum.

Later UC posts were badstuffs, now this.

Vote: Screenplay

uh, i'm pretty sure this is bad.
VOTE: espeonage

Um what

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Espeonage I know in 1997 mafia was different but that is a garbage vote
Can we have ur current reads??

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...are you on drugs

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^annoying

VOTE: Jodaxq

Scummy

VOTE: joda

when i read this i tried to scream but nothing came out

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can
I

More votes on Ee

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what does that mean to me

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you're joking right

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Someone save me please

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there's this hump i have to get over
Scum espe doesn't fake those reads cause with replacing in there's plenty of room to construct an entire narrative and be given leeway as is clearly evidenced this game
I've been reading some of those reactions as knee jerk town and the Havo read looked good even if it's just wrong



i feel like this is wrong, this slot's been semi pushed and focused on the whole game along with obvtown uc
The wagons this game have been fuckery

And fuck espe for a sec is no one going to fucking point out Dunn and Transcend just revived the awful Joda wagon??

I'll switch on Dunn if someone votes with me
Havo wya

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I'm calling bullshit cause Dunn's engagement sucks
He's clearly aware about his noncontribution but his follow up is to only engage what he's pushed with rather than the gamestate
You can't tell me I'm lying




pedit ya my scum game is great, i lose autowins so eloquently

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VOTE: Dunnstral


now to wait for reasons why this wagon

can't happen

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Havo let's go boi. Hmu

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If that greens Im hitting u with a traffic cone.

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AYE MY MANS

LMAO UZI YO BUM ASS ROLLED SCUM

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hi guys, what's going on

it's pretty lonely

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i'd be more vocally dissatisfied about some of uzi's actions here cause there's stuff i dont like
but i feel like max payne 8 days sober with malaria and a bullet in my leg drinking salt water

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preference would be schadd over uzi right now though

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ok nevermind i'm not taking my vote off unless there's a deadlock
Tf

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These r way better than the old wagons

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Zach, how many people do you think you can get to vote Dunn?

that depends
are you bussing c:

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Oh that's what I was gonna ask
Uzi why is Katyusha scum?

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Guys, what would you say if I told you I had Dunnstral nailed like a cabinet door?

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schadd
tf is u talking bout cuz


pedit OH NAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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THIS MAN REALLY JUST SAID THAT DUMB SHIT

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yea i re read the post and i still dont know what sgoing on
schadd why is your read around me centered around my read on you
what is the weird metric im being read on lmaoo
kidney was indeed trash garbage bullshit zachary


u tryn smoke

@Zach You can't even read me when I post normally, so...

has nothing to do with this game where you havent done shit that is town

zachary daiquiri

what case doyou have on dunnstral other than living up to his current meta

Nah nah nah nah nah na see that's where u got me fucked up

Idk what his "meta" is but not being a hyperposter doesn't mean that you get to not do shit
or it does from him

Something that is NAI doesn't warrant a town read
Also his engagement is to deflect and only work on what he can manipulate? Imo

but whatever

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if u wagon my mans havo then it's on sight for all of u

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AYE Hbd Kid Amen

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can you feel my burning hatred for you

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i mean ily i just hate you too

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Oh that's what I was gonna ask
Uzi why is Katyusha scum?

I’ll get back to you if I’m alive Day 2

THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS

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So how about those votes

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i think town:

transcend, keech, wavemode

more town than the i don't fucking even know pool:

srceenplay, dunnstral, jodaxq (???) (but i think so) (?)

i don't fucking honestly even know:

uzi, havo

like marginally more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking honestly idea pool and she gets her own tier because it feels like a read that 2016 me is very confident in and wrong:

north side gal

there's also like zachary and there's like so much bullshit i'm thinking up about how i would think he would go and i think it's like reasonable that he thinks he has some way to read me that works but he's also like weird and motivated by different things than i would think and seems like he could be agenda/lynch-driven but also like the only (completed) game that i've played with him was trash garbage bullshit and i don't have any idea. like remember last time how i was like "lmao i'm judging zachary from speakeasy" well I'M SOMEWHO NOT FUCKING ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS GAME IS LIKE DIFFERENT AND LESS SMOOTH AND STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN KIDNEY WHICH IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING KIDNEY WAS TRASH GARBAGE BULLSHIT

zachary

like rather more scum than the i don't fucking honestly have any fucking clue pool but honestly this game feels like a game where my reads are trash garbage so like whatever honestly fucking and it feels weird to put katy lower than zachary?????? but i think i think that:

espeonage, katy

So I don't think I actually buy this. or the following post. I think it's forced.
For one I definitely don't buy that you scumread Katy. What the hell? I don't think you bought it yourself. You manage to fence sit and not at the same time on like all of these.

The trend of towning Dunn for no reason is bullshit. As one of like the main events of this, how is Uzi in the null pile? You only mention him once in your catch up and it's the post where he mentions his read on you. I could be reaching but it's like you engaged with what gave you an in.
Like for your read on me it's basically talking about my read on you which, for most of the game (while you weren't here) it was put to the side.

On the other hand the votes on Havo actually sucked and that means something to me. I'm wondering if they're related. I mean it's hard to tell with Espe cause I think their reads are genuine but they're terrible
Joda could you go over your Uzi progression again cause it's pretty confusing


VOTE: schadd

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Town
Katy
Wave
Screen
Havo
Espeonage

Margin for Error
Northside
Uzi
Joda

Scum
Schadd
Dunnstral

Later
Transcend
Keychain

Only thing important is scum pile and a few people I won't let get lynched atm.

I took a gamble here but Uzi's said some shit that's more likely to be from town!him today so I'm giving him a pass on that read. Meanwhile I actually do not like schadd posting. If I switched my read for this and Uzi's slot mafia tho, LMAO. Fuck you
Katy's the strongest town I have
UC Voyager played classic lynchbait and Screen has been fine. I don't feel like I'm misreading Havo. I feel like he'd be trying to use more influence as scum. The way he acts reads like he actually has a genuine read on Uzi.
I just remembered I'm not supposed to like long day ones but oh well.

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After seeing vc I don’t like the composition.

UNVOTE:

I still have time to think.

I'm not gonna lie this struck me as odd considering this wagon had (sorta) the towniest composition
Even before I joined...

Wait a minute do you still scumread Katyusha lmfao

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"why is your read around me centered around my read on you" is another one of those things that should be a statement and not a question. ya, when i'm thinking about stuff that zach did that informs my read of him the way he talks about me is one of the things that stands out. it's a sort of standin for a general issue which is that a lot of your reads / posting style seem convenient, like more aligned with what i think u r good at doing as scum (explaining things! rhetoric!) than what i expect u to gravitate to as town (callouts! a bunch of other foggy things that i'm not sure about exactly because kidney was garbage fire). 962 for example also has a bunch of things that are questions that should just be statements and like trying to explain your way onto the mislynch but also try to seem engagey. which came after my readlist but fukkit it's a good example and the sort of thing i was thinking of.

Okay so no that's definitely a question. I don't know why they have to be statements. What? Can we start there? LMFAO
Like Dunn, you only engaging with what's given to you directly is scummy as hell. You're doing this with me and while you mention your reads being convenient yours are literally even more convenientest.
Also you're asserting that, like, I would have even needed to explain my way onto your lynch if I were pushing you as scum. Like I was in a position where I needed to do this or had to for this agenda that I supposedly have but it doesn't make sense.



I see the thing you're going for here but
You'd have to paint a clearer picture of what you perceive my scumgame as
Substance like wrt to other things I've done that don't involve me pushing you would look a lotttt better than what you're doing currently does

I was Miller IC In Kidney. I VI'd that game. You can argue that I VI every game but that's not what I'm getting at here. meta reading me as a rule is terrible. It makes sense that your bar for reading me like that would be that sole experience but I expect town you to know that I'm a wild card. And lol explaining shit and rhetoric is def not a scumtell for me, unfortunately.

Like I know how you were saying it but it only fits better cause we're doing this thing and I'm pushing you

i

am

fence sitting, thanks for noticing! it's like, if u want to scumread me you have the choice of doing it because you think my reads are bad or because you think they aren't confident enough

these are dominantly what i think about the game, there are just macro things that make me feel like i have large potential to be dumb and wrong

for example i do somewhat confidently scumread katy. sorta the same reason as you, engagement feels weird. she isn't trying to talk to me which is natural for her and was the last time we played together. i would link but alt. it would kind of make sense if she genuinely really really thought i was scum but like. i was scum in the game i just mentioned. i don't think i gave enough reason from the wall / list to make an assumption as to whether i was confident about the read other than that i said it felt weird. i didn't talk about the substance of it.

what i said with dunn is what i'm thinking about him, it's not no reason. he tends to be pretty active as both alignments iirc and it makes more sense to me that he would underperform as town than scum.

i don't see why it's weird that little mention of uzi makes him null. that sounds intuitive to me. i also don't think it's true that he wasn't mentioned much? there was some stuff from ee i pointed out. like, ee is contentless and uzi is good at scum. so like. that is null.

they are both bad and not confident enough i would say
only in the important areas
yeah, It reads like you're leaving yourself a lot of room to have literally any progression you want is what I meant. Katy - Being that she's one of the most obvtowniest people ever you not doing the same is super hard ping. Oh, and also happens to have been pushing you. Just saying. This isn't that far fetched. Even in the same post you doubtcast that she actually scumreads you..
What did Dunn actually do that's of substance? Like what did he provide that wasn't prod dodging or engagement for engagement's sake? The question doesn't have an answer. You can't give me one. It's just no one really cares. Also his allure says "let me not do shit" and that's basically what happens.

He's not underperforming here. There's literally no performance. That's the big thing.

Uzi's been the primary wagon like the focus so I would expect you to have something to say about any...anything about it really.. so you shouldn't really be confused at that point. It explains itself. Good at scum or not he's still given a lot of AI stuff to interact with or divine anything from. EE was EE.

i am flattered you suggested i am scum that is trying to engage lmao

okay this kills me lmfao
you're getting wagoned
...

..

?

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U...

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what have you done

You're an easy read Katy. Well I have some people that are like that on this site. Not a lot. It's really like, some chakra shit that has to do with your playstyle. Not joking.

But Ya Mans Finessing U


Pedit BRUH

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NAW AYE WHY YOU EVEN DO ME LIKE THAT SMH
you're so transparent lol it is very easy to see your thought processi
like very easy





ill be back later for this.... you havw failed me

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i mean like as a baseline you're very transparent

i have good reads on town when i hit them you usually see it when i white knight people into the ground. certain people towntell pretty well. its why the whole angle you're taking here is just eh. I get you think I'm trying to nat geo you and it hurts me too but you've seen me do this. you've also been finessed before so i don't really blame u? but that was a while ago.

I'm sort of, townhunting is what I'm good at? to tie this in specifically with the read on you, that shouldn't really be surprising, nor should the fact that i've arrived at a conclusion on you be surprising like you're not an enigma or anything. it seems like you're assuming me not having provided an explanation like you want means i'm refusing to engage which.. is...uh ... a little redundant

example i could tell you were actually trying to solve firaja for one; i disagreed with you but that interaction was what i would expect. other actions etc etc. this is pretty boring. the way you scumhunt and react to certain people / approach certain reads is actual organic consideration



yeah this rushing around seems about right for the deadline. well. i don't care at this point.

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screenplay what did you review on nsg/katy?

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example i could tell you were actually trying to solve firaja for one; i disagreed with you but that interaction was what i would expect. other actions etc etc. this is pretty boring. the way you scumhunt and react to certain people / approach certain reads is actual organic consideration

i dont disagree zach that you can townhunt well and you defend them but you also emulate that often as scum. it's actually a notable thing i remember from the times i've seen you as scum (not related to tell)

what im missing here is though is that srceen and espeo (and I think luv? dont recall) both said that they felt my premises on firaja were leading and even I conceded that there was some bluff involved. why are you different here? like

i know this seems tedious but there's a blank spot here. i'm at point a, you're at point c. you're explaining to me c when i still need b here

you seem to be forgetting i disagreed with your firaja read when you started pushing it.
i didn't say much but the conclusions you arrived to seemed pretty reasonable in terms of what i'd expect from you. just cause i didn't like the read didn't mean i couldn't see why town you would press that the way you did. like i notice when you scumread people you do interact with them a certain way as to work the read. but really my first impressions are what they were. when i have reads like this i usually hit but if i miss it's really, really bad.

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Like Dunn, you only engaging with what's given to you directly is scummy as hell. You're doing this with me and while you mention your reads being convenient yours are literally even more convenientest.

925 974?

is a catch up i mean ya

I see the thing you're going for here but
You'd have to paint a clearer picture of what you perceive my scumgame as
Substance like wrt to other things I've done that don't involve me pushing you would look a lotttt better than what you're doing currently does

so like there's 386 which is just a tallpost that i found indiscriminately as an example (and if you want me to talk about how a specific other post factors into the thought that is also helpful)

at face value it's just a regular tallpost, goes through a bunch of things and talks sorta nuts and bolts about your reasons for thinking things. this is something that like a striking number of people, especially the 2016 crowd is good at faking - like uzi, katy, probably transc if he did that as town, probably me if playing scum didn't make my life force evaporate, and probably you since people talk about your rhetorical style and stuff as scum. but like i kind of also expect all of us except like katy to not bother with it as town. like uzi town is often just like "lmao" "lmao ur wrong" from what i remember. because it stops being interesting to like talk about the game and stuff after a while unless you're scum and faking it.

and this is like foggy and not always true and leaves me at the point where i can only really just say "idk zach's posts are like kind of not what i expect them to be"

Right so here's the thing. You're using this as a frame of reference when you don't even have that frame of reference.
We have one completed game
This is like the center of your entire read on me which isn't really a problem it's just you're going about it with certainty that you shouldn't have and I can't see to what end.

Also what's really fucky is these posts you cite are largely one offs this game, like the ones you mention are individual instances. I really, haven't done shit this whole game besides push reads Firaja/nsg and EE Dunn and just vomit all over this thread. The one you quote here is when Keychain was pushing me and I didn't like it.

So its like you're trying to present I'm deliberately pro scumming with this "content" stuff ie choosing to talk about the game to appear proactive like that's something i had been doing while everyone else was disinterested. or had been doing this game. That's not the case here even at all.

meta reading me as a rule is terrible. It makes sense that your bar for reading me like that would be that sole experience but I expect town you to know that I'm a wild card.

i mean meta is how i think of everyone like always. you can see me meta read people i haven't played with or read any games of oftentimes.

i guess you could within reason expect me to think of you as a wild card. i mean at the same time the only* thing i played with you was a d1 in a large that i half paid attention to. and like speakeasy posting. and stuff.

from this game alone i wouldn't suppose you're a wild card, because of the nuts and boltsy stuff i mentioned.

do you not take issue with katy saying she has a tell on you?

if you were doing this genuinely you wouldn't get here.
I literally just talked bout the bold. That doesn't make sense given I haven't been doing the nuts and bolts stuff whereas you preface it like I'd been attempting to dominate the gamestate by engaging it in that way which isn't really true.

People say that they have tells and shit all the time. I don't really care about that lol. Dunn's known me the longest and he can't read me worth shit.

927 is what i think. when you say i'm open to having any progression i want what about this makes it different from other people? like you're saying i'm plotting this readlist such that it seems easy to change at convenience? but how do i do that? i don't really change my mind as town very often.

i mean i disagree that katy is obvtown. you disagree that transc is obvtown. etc etc.

i think that she would be less likely to scumread me as town, like, at all.

What did Dunn actually do that's of substance? Like what did he provide that wasn't prod dodging or engagement for engagement's sake? The question doesn't have an answer. You can't give me one. It's just no one really cares. Also his allure says "let me not do shit" and that's basically what happens.

He's not underperforming here. There's literally no performance. That's the big thing.

i mean he's voting people. his reads kind of align with mine. i don't posit that he's doing anything else of substance, rather that him being town doesn't unilaterally imply that he would be substantial. do you suppose it does?

Transcends scum game is to play like hes obv town.............

oh yeah dunn he's voting people. that uh. yeah.

I suppose him being town would mean he'd actually do shit yes. I get treated like I'm literally insane for this and it's sort of not comical by now so I think I am being fucked with

look for instance his latest actual input

unless you're saying that bc you're implying people need to save you you realize we have plur right

we dont need a full 7 votes for lynching

I want to be able to be around if I need to defend myself or claim.

claim now or you will be the only viable lynch with our time

like I swear he went to the fucking detective academy

uzi being a big wagon (which he's also like not at the moment) doesn't impact me having thoughts about him. i say what i have thoughts on. good at scum makes his things less alignment indicative, like considering He Got Me! last game. i rather thought he was town and was wrong. so i am in turn less likely to think of the stuff i think about him as salient. like my thoughts on him are:
-content seems gut good. which it did last game. but it's like different than last game? but like i have blocked out a lot of stuff from last game as well.
-he hasn't been lmaoing as much. that might be bullshit.
cool we landed at null. wow! even though he is a big wagon!

yeah he's not now but he was at one point and it's not that much of a stretch for me to expect town!you would try to solve the game off of major events happening
and then you just popped up........... this 1v1 is great huh



Also I've seen Uzi LMAO like twice in my whole life......

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so are you gonna claim espe..............................................................


wtf? this game

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this is going to be funny if its a drmyshotty scenario

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LOL DID YOU JUST

OH MY GOD

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I think the not claiming with 8< hours left is worse than the quickhammer

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good w folks


i got yall next time g

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hard to win vs obvtkwn

I gues ill have to be obv town

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gonna be hard next time because my tell on you is pretty bulletproof

i will not depart from this miserable festering wound of a planet before i finesse u again

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kaytushaaaaaa

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you have given m e the blueprint schad

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i'd like to say that i had the scumteam totally pegged this game, but i don't think i would have scumread zach any time soon.

SOMEONE BELIEVED MY LIES

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yo katy, the tell does not exist bruh